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>>43001527
Extremely based artist

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>"oh a Anon, I'm sure he has a cute online handle."
>NiggerKiller69

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theres like a dozen artists with nigger in their name

>>43001527
I concur, why must artists come up with the worst names possible?
>Glimbrain
>Plunger
>Crade
>Crookedtrees
>Darkdoomer
>Darkflame
>Darkflower
>Darkdale (Now Shydale)
>Darkesthur
>Whydomenhavenipples
>Pony quarantine
>Scraggleman
>Shoutingisfun
>Jerkface

the art: Mostly cute and wholesome ponies

I'm still deciding on a rancid ass name to use when I make my big debut

>>43001600
muskyponut

>>43001600
EpsteinRapist

>>43001527
OP is a faggot much like his nickname, cocksucker420

>>43001600
xX_NiggerTonguer_Xx

>>43001536
based

>>43001536
cringe

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>"this guys name is vomitvomiting i bet he draws ponies puking"
>

>>43001639
sweet free lemonade! *glug glug glug* wait a fucking moment this tastes like PISS

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>another thread complaining about how an artist wasn't 110% what anon always ever wanted while not paying a dime

>>43001645
hey cmon thats obviously not piss we should all take turns drinking it to confirm this

>>43001527
>>"oh a pony artist, i'm sure he has a cute nickname."
>>niggerfaggot

>>43001565
unf bedmane

>>43001527
>>43001565
>>43001605
>>43001614
Everyone, the cutest pony artist names ever

>>43001527
vomitvomiting = the rejection of vomit.

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>>43001781
His name should have been vomitingvomit then.

>>43001592
Most of those names are fine, you big baby.

>>43001527
What a strange reason to be upset about.

>>43001651
Genuinely the absolute best name. Especially because Furpibooru can't censor it.

>>43001990
worst*
FTFY

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>artist uses his real name

>>43001527
>make up a name on the spot one day
>it turns out to be a semitic last name
>the main Google results are me, and a horrific rapist

>>43002511
Seethe on.

There's nothing wrong with choosing a silly name as an artist.

>>43001568
I hope you get flayed alive frognigger

>>43002732
frogposting is /mlp/ culture, sissy

>>43001527
Lol. I been using that name since before I even started drawing ponies bro, It's a reference to a song a like. If it's a bit much for you just call me "vom"
>>43001552
Ty my friend
>>43001781
The idea is a pile of vomit that itself is vomiting. The song im talking a out is about a cyborg that explodes into a pile of vomit that keeps vomiting more and more until the whole universe is filled with vomit

>>43002737
ur art is shit btw kill yourself

>>43001527
I find it extremely distasteful that this artist in particular posts art like this, which is clearly not beginner level, in /bale/ which is supposed to be for beginners. Then gets all the praise while the actual beginners get ignored.

>>43002663
love your art, epstein

>>43001592
Because fully grown up adults need to compensate the cute childish looking art with edgy crude names.

>>43002761
/bale/ has good stuff in the OP but other than that it's just skilled artists smurfing and flexing on beginners to demoralize them so they won't get any 'competition'.

>>43002761
i don't think he's doing it intentionally. his art from a year ago is visibly rougher, too. seems more likely he was a beginner that has advanced but has grown too big for his britches. bigger boy vomit now

>>43002737
ur art is amazing btw live yourself

>>43002737
Ur gogurt mare did things to me

>>43002783
I think Huffyhorse of all people touched on this. The artists that are popular right now want to continue having the stranglehold they have on modern MLP culture and try and snuff out any artists they see as a threat to this..

>>43002761
Almost two years artist who post there and doesn't get (you)s never. Don't do art because of praise or recognition, do it because you like to do it and when the times come you're gonna get people liking it.

>>43002737
your art is mid btw half breathe and not half breathe

>cutesy nickname
>draws horrible shit
name two

>>43002790
No he's doing intentionally. All the skilled artists that post their art in /bale/ are doing so intentionally. Why else would you post an objectively 'advanced' picture of a thicc Trixie in /bale/ unless you wanted to put the people earnestly browsing that thread to start their art journey in your shadow? They're gonna think that's low effort or beginner level and get instantly demoralized and quit.

>>43002737
You art is but let me suck your cock

>>43002817
If there wasn't good art the thread would be a bump fest. Reply every ignored oc on the thread if it's so much of a trouble so much instead of complaining with artists.

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>>43002783
Do you really think anyone cares about 'competition' in this dying shithole?

>>43002828
This
Even a couple of (You)s can mean the world to an amateur artist or writer. It pains me to see multiple posts of greentext without even a single (You), even criticism is helpful.

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>>43002832
Shouldn't be a competition but an exchange of ideas and help to make more ponies for the world.

>>43002807
>Don't do art because of praise or recognition, do it because you like to do it
This is always such utter bullshit, because if you're just doing it for yourself, why post it online in the first place?

Don't deny the far majority of artists make and publish stuff because they enjoy the upboats and (You)s. And there's not even anything wrong with that, but don't lie.

>>43002828
>if I didn't grace my presence to shit on the beginners then it would be a bump fest because i said so
Fag.

>>43002783
git gud

>>43002817
Am I a skilled artist of /bale/?

>>43002761
>>43002817
he's been drawing for about a year and has made great progress in that time. people start out at different places and improve at different speeds.
>>43002817
seems like you're forgetting the low effort part of bale. what someone considers low effort is gonna vary significantly between people, not to mention advanced artists can also draw low effort stuff as well. I'm personally of the opinion that if someone can't handle seeing potentially better artists than themselves in the thread they shouldn't get into art in the first place until they can handle that reality. besides that point advanced artists can give new artist's better critique because they actually know what they are talking about.

>>43002865
>advanced artists can give new artist's better critique
But they never do. Redliner has been dead for ages now.

>>43002879
I always do when requested and on occasion unprompted. though I usually try to avoid giving critique unprompted to not come off as an asshole plus you never know how an anon is going to react to the critique, but I have indeed helped plenty of anons in the thread with feedback/ critique.

>>43002879
Maybe if ppl explicitly asked more they'd get it more
Didn't mean this post in a cheeky or rude way I'm just saying. sitting down and analysing a guys work and figuring out where they're lackluster and how they can improve and succinctly explaining ur observations can be draining. I don't blame ppl for not chomping at the bit to do it.

Know this small time artists, I save and appreciate a surprising amount of ur pics. I will pledge to throw out more (You)s so that this is felt

One of my fav ever greentexts and pieces of writing in general went pretty much entirely unnoticed though I obsessed over it for years and spent days making a homage piece to it. I like to think everyone collects a lurkgang fan like that given time

>>43001639
https://derpibooru.org/images/3633338

>>43002834
This. The biggest demoralizing thing for me when I post art is to not know what anyone thinks of it. I'm not looking for upvotes, but not knowing if it's good or needs improvement somewhere even if I ask for it kills any motivation to post more. Even one (You) with something to think about helps a lot.

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>>43001527
>his nickname is gay4geldings
kek.

>>43002801
>we should definitely listen to someone who identifies with anontranny

>>43002879
redlining is worthless unless its actually by someone who knows what they're talking about and most of /bale/ redlines were a crapshoot of the blind beg leading the beg blind being the norm.

>>43002737
You should draw more mares pissing

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>>43002958

>>43001592
in a lot of cases your username is something you came up with in 2 minutes trying to sign up for the call of duty forums at the age of 13 or whatever. then you just kept using that. suddenly you find yourself having a followership and established art portfolio under the name of EpicFapster95

>>43003186
Literally me.

>>43003186
>not having a different username for every site
Coward.

>>43003188
Checked

>>43001592
i used a dwarf fortress name generator for mine, and sometimes i regret it because having people read it out loud is always embarrassing

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>>43002761
>>43002783
>>43002801
>/create/ sucks
>drawthread is a shithole
>posting art in one of the generals you like often leads to get getting missed as yet another decades old repost
>"B-B-BUT DON'T POST IN THE COMFY DRAWING THREAD, I CAN'T HANDLE BEING SHOWN UP BY PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN POSTING IN IT FOR YEARS WITHOUT SHITTING MY PANTS!"
I get you're a faggot and all, but have you considered using /bale/ posters as a source of critique and inspiration instead of being a crab? Drawing is fun and a lifelong journey, if all it takes is for someone better than you for you to wanna cry and quit, maybe drawing isn't for you.
There isn't a secret cabal of drawfags out to get anyone, and there isn't a stranglehold on fucking DRAWING. You probably just romanticized the idea of being the next horsefamous artist and instead of buckling down to work at it you're picking fights because in the end your ngmi.

>>43003294
nothing ever happens nuke

>>43003294
>>posting art in one of the generals you like often leads to get getting missed as yet another decades old reposts
I just say its a fresh draw or say I "I drew 'x' today" and that works fine. something along that line. indicating that its new but in a succinct manner is the best approach. the rest of the posted is accurate and based.

>>43002737
you're great at what you do, and thanks for doing it

>>43001781
then it would be vomitomiting

>>43002817
I don't know about all that, but I do think that bale/create/tempo splitting off from the draw thread has been a mistake. Drawthread was never meant to be necessarily "high quality", but rather a mix of all skill levels and I think the split has resulted in less art in general.

>>43003471
I think the thing is that Drawthreads on the site as a whole have become almost universally about fulfilling requests, which is cool and all but lots of artists don't wanna do that so inevitably other threads are going to form.

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You know the fandom and site is dead when people cannibalize each other over PFPs and drawings of all things.

>>43003482
The internet as a whole has gotten ridiculously protective of artwork. I get it if someone draws your favorite OC sucking dick or whatever but if someone uses your art as their avatar? Don't worry about it.

>>43003482
This place has no gates, therefore it can't be gatekept. Same goes for places like Xitter. They are public. It's no coincidence that they are the dregs of the fandom. A lot of fans aren't fans, but people using pony as a cope. It's why they get assmad over pointless shit and fabricate unrelated culture wars. They are coping and feel greatly threatened when someone does anything in a way that they don't personally like. It's why they are willing to crash this place with no survivors, they aren't fans. Once all is said and done they will move on to the next cope. The fandom will always be here, but public sects of it will always be destroyed by tourists and outsiders, either for funsies or because of a coper's trigger response.

>>43002842
If you absolutely need mom to compliment your stick figures, then you're never getting past that stage. The reason I learned to draw was because I was obsessed with cartoon media and had too much free time to make cringe doodles that only I gave a damn about. Bringing mutual happiness by easily sharing that art is only a bonus that we take for granted in the digital age. If the majority are all social parasites, then fuck the majority. The internal drive to have your vision realized and the fun you have with it is what matters first, because that will get you through the (You)less stage.

>>43002761
I here ya. what >>43002790 is saying is basically correct. I used to post everything I drew in /bale/ back when I was a beginner. These days, I don't really know where to post my stuff other than the Rarity thread and on derpi. When I post in /bale/ now I'm usually giving feedback or advice, but I will still post random drawings every now and then. It just sucks because I love that thread and It's one of the main things that got me to start drawing ponies in the first place, but now when I post there people get mad at me. When I first started drawing I never thought I'd be "too good" for /bale/. I guess maybe I should just stop posting my art there entirely but it's hard to say goodbye after being a regular there so long. I love seeing the stuff that new artists make and try to encourage them, I don't want to be doing the opposite

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>is called something like 69_Emperor_of_KKK_1337
>draws the most beatiful poni imaginable
>has some tryhard or pseudo intellectual name like FleetingWindsOfMemories
>draws in shitty chicken scratches for a decade and never evolves past that
Name them

>>43003763
oh come on don't stop posting, OC is the heart of the board, I think I remember your art and it always made me smile seeing it pop up here and there
I think it's just a vocal minority that feels inadequate when looking at art that's better than theirs, it always motivated me when I would see the regulars post stuff that's more advanced than what I can draw but also reachable if I'll keep grinding
also we need more posters, there's a finite amount of begginers we can get at this stage of the boards existence

>>43003155
But Redliner was clearly a competent artist because you could tell from the quality of the critique so you obviously haven't the foggiest who it even was and are just moaning in the wind.

>>43003193
I was actually called a coward for doing just that in the past (this was way before 4chan existed) because they felt I was trying to pretend I was someone else (even though I literally always announced who I was with my first posts lol) when the real reason was just >>43003186 whenever I opened up the registration form.

Accidentally happened to be a good thing I used to do that too because otherwise a lot of damaging things might've haunted me in this age of outrage and mock moralism.

>>43003294
>There isn't a secret cabal of drawfags out to get anyone
Discord screencaps have frequently proven that there really are.

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>>43004152
>believing Discord

>>43003551
>This place has no gates, therefore it can't be gatekept. Same goes for places like Xitter. They are public. It's no coincidence that they are the dregs of the fandom.
>implying a place like Furpibooru is the pinnacle of the fandom's users
Get out.

>>43003557
>blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
So where's the rebuttal besides this unrelated ad hom?

>>43003763
If your level has gone up you may want to post "finished" works that you worked on for a long time (like several days) in another thread like /create/ but keep posting "low-effort" drawings for your own level in /bale/. If you also use a name to give people C&C people will recognize you're not just trying to look cool compared to less capable anons, though a lot may start to hate you for that regardless because they might think you're trying to become "le based /bale/ oldfag". I dunno, navigating these social aspects has always been what I hated the absolute most about making art and it was one of the reasons why I quit myself.

>>43003855
I think this is because many fanfic writers give themselves one of those "tryhard" names. And since most people are only competent in one field...

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>>43004172
The rebuttal is that you have zero passion for art and complain too much.

>>43004266
Keep everything you make to yourself from now on.

>B-but..!
Either that or admit you're a hypocrite.

>>43004205
sounds like you quit doing something that makes you happy because of imaginary social norms on an anonymous forum

>>43004319
It wasn't on 4chan, and I don't care for your dismissive attitude.

>>43004002
Not saying I'll stop posting my drawings on the board entirely, just /bale/. And I'll still give people feedback, I don't want to abandon the thread all together. Not the first time I've been accused of being a smurf or an attention whore for posting there and it's just not worth the headache. I don't want to be seen that way
>>43004205
couldn't agree more about the social aspects, I just want to draw cute mares and share them with my bros

don't feed the parasprites

>No you don't get it I must post my art that is no way low effort or beginner level in the thread meant for beginners because... Uh... Hmm... I just can?
You could just post them on xitter to get the thousands of likes you already do. But no, you HAVE to post it in /bale/ to get even more attention drawn from the people that need it. It's fucking intentional. I can't imagine how many potential new artists were made to feel insufficient because you just have to post your art in the beginner thread.

>>43004529
I only ever draw on /create/ just so I can score brownie points on being recognized

>money doesn't buy happiness
Says the billionaire.
>You should do art because you want too
Says the artist that posts their art on various websites in hopes of getting attention.

>>43004600
Don't you ever get tired of being miserable?

>>43004600
Well, if you don't want to do art, then we certainly won't see anything from you!

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>>43003294
>Drawing is fun
HA!

>>43004529
>>43004600
>>43004637
Didn't know I accidentally clicked into /ic/ instead of /mlp/

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>>43004152
The screencaps of discord servers... Made by artist friendgroups... Who are usually jaded by Anon's talking shit about them... For being popular... Woah...
>>43004529
Mad because bad, and your negative outlook is why you'll never be a real artist.
>"PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN ME, I MUST MAKE THE BOARD WORSE BECAUSE... UH... I JUST CAN?"
>>43004600
Believe it or not, some people post their art online because they enjoy sharing what they work on. And others like to see it and endorse it. If sharing your hobby onto the internet is attention seeking behavior then I don't know what else to say besides, congrats on being miserable. Art has always been about the most skilled becoming the most notable, and that takes dedication and learning.

>>43004600
Notice how they have no argument beyond
>you are le miserable lol
Please don't stop exposing them and their ilk. It's fucking disgusting how they all get off on making lesser artists feel like shit.

>>43004831
so true queen, go off. im sure if you stop drawing in spite of them thatll really show them

>>43003492
Do someone actually rages at people using their art as pfp? Man, I've felt so flattered each time I've seen my drawings on random people's pfp

>>43003763
I've hardly seen a lot of people pissing and moaning in bale about posters being "too good for bale" beside the occasional crabs who'd piss and moan about anything and everything.
>>43004529
believe it or not not everyone uses twitter. shocking I know. if you get filtered by the mere existence of people who are better than you that's a you problem.

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>complains about not getting any (you)
>leave oc shit without any (you)
You're part of the problem you're bitching about

>>43004128
>worshipping a namefag who was obviously beg
>>30428908
https://derpibooru.org/tags/artist-colon-mcponyponypony
point proven

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>>43004317
>Keep everything you make to yourself from now on.
>He doesn't know.

What is there left to be horsefamous for? Just /mlp/ and the mlp subreddit?

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>>43005471
Getting attention and anons using our shit to make ops and reactions on board

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>>43001565
>"oh Anon IRL. I'm sure his real name is pretty Anglo."
>Jose Sanchez

>>43005471
>Just reddit and reddit 2?
So it seems.

>>43004809
Are you an artist? The smug air of superiority checks out.

>>43005351
Okay shithead. Nobody cares that you think anyone who actually contributes to any of the drawing threads (i.e. the lifeblood of this board) is "not good enough" for Mr. Perfect.

You are part of the problem. Please leave.

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>>43005875
No faggot muhredliner is part of the problem, and so are you for enabling this hack into believing it was in the right so it would post more shitty redlines every time.

The only thing they served was being a thread cheerleader with le fun community challenges. Their work was horrible so they're unqualified for any real redlines, but dealing with mental cripples like yourself you just brain-off like it had any kind of authority that you should listen to.

I've literally seen better now and then in /bale/, aggie and magmas, and that isn't even a high bar. Le redliner is a permabeg who never improved after early stagnation. Please shut the fuck up

>>43005934
Not even reading your drivel. Please leave.

>>43001527
You have to be edgy to counter the fact that you draw something really cute and "girly", there's probably a name for it but idk

>>43006058
Yeah, it's called insecurity.

>>43004887
Yeah, some people asked me if they could use my art for their icon (another fandom) and I just said "go for it". Don't even need to ask me. Why would I be upset over someone liking my work and even wanting to spread it further?

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>>43005945
Blow it out your ass, you toddler. Nothing of value was lost by a literallywho beg not smearing their redturds all over everything. You are the equivalent of a kindergartener learning from and looking up to a first grader. Both are shit, and here's one of it's improovements - taking a forever to get to beg from beg is not anything to be proud of. The whole notion of this gril being incharge of drawthreadimprovement was a joke.

>>43006150
Didn't read. We don't need people around that try to dissuade people from contributing to the board. Please leave, you are unwanted here. Maybe try the sh*rty or some other shithole like that.

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>>43001527
>got this good in only a year
>I'm still permabeg at 4
wow I really do just need to kill myself

>>43006185
You don't need to have amazing art to make things that make you and others happy. With that said, there's probably things you can do to improve if you dedicate more time to it.

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>>43005934
>>43006150
>>43006184

>I posted [the thing] that makes all criticisms go away! Hooray now we will go back to hugboxing!
No.

>>43006195
The worst part is that the raids were successful. Contributions are perpetually declining, anons leave the board with a bad taste in their mouth each and every day. Most anons barely use the board anymore and opt to use offboard platforms while engaging with /mlp/ culture instead.

>>43006201
The proxy site also doesn't help, though it's useful to bypass bullshit bans, so it's double-edged sword. I think chan culture is pretty much dying, the SNR is just too low nowadays, and even the trolls aren't funny anymore.

>>43006201
most of the board interaction is usually shitflinging because another anon has a different option especially general vs general and barely any discussion which doesnt intice some faggot to cry some buzzword to attack another anon

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>all this retarded arguing over art
The fact of the matter is if you don't have the talent for it, you'll never be any good no matter how hard or how long you try. You may not like it, but it's just the truth. Talent is truly the only thing that matters in a creative pursuit. "Effort" and "passion" mean fuck all if you weren't born with the talent to make them mean anything.

>>43006201
>>43006208
>>43006215
>Someone is pointing my nostalgia glasses doesn't hold up
>I need to enter into defensive crybaby circlejerk mode, WAHHHHHH
Go back to bluesky

>>43006189
"Good" art would suffice
I wish drawing was like driving, math, guitar,programming, cooking, etc where you just have to follow a basic path and you're guaranteed some baseline level of competency

>>43006208
Take your licks like a man. Vacations are awesome, though I prefer earned ones. Whenever I get banned I just do other things with my time.

43006221
Case in point. Typical soi style arguing. Not interesting or even funny, just a nuisance.

>gets absolutely btfo'd
>too scared to reply directly
Just another day ending with Y

>>43006226
>Take your licks like a man.
No. I won't accept bullshit bans, or the preferential treatment of certain groups of this board. It has pissed people off enough to start a whole new SITE for it (I don't really use it myself) which says enough.

>>43006228
>Not interesting or even funny, just a nuisance.
...but enough about hugbox tourists who were never here

>>43006222
I mean, you can do that approach with art, it just involves exclusively drawing directly from reference and not differing from the reference at all. It's nowhere as satisfying as making up your own poses and ideas of things to draw, but it is possible to do.

>>43006241
NHNB is better than /mlp/ in every possible way, yet you all refuse to use it. Do you have stockholm syndrome? It gets quite lonely over there.

>>43006250
nousersandnoposts lmao

>>43006250
Nobody posts there so there's no point.

>>43006250
>It gets quite lonely over there.
That's pretty much my reason for not using it. I'll probably ditch /mlp/ one day when I find enough sane pony fans in non-anonymous discussion places (as long as it's not Discord). I'm certain that every board event that is hosted off-site siphons a lot of users away from this place (besides checking a few threads when they're bored) and I don't blame them in the slightest.

>>43006261
It's better to be among few than to be among shit.

>>43006269
nhnb is violently autistic, fuck that noise.

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>>43006269
And yet here you are.

>>43006250
>every possible way
I don't mean to be rude but I have never been able to keep up with an imageboard where it regularly dips under one post per minute. At that point it just feels like an email group and I give up.

>>43006268
I used to be here hours per day, trying to create oc for and defending /mlp/. The insane drop in quality post hack is what finally threw me off.
>>43006275
I was only strolling through to check on the marecon thread when I saw this circus. It used to be disheartening to see threads like this, but now I can only laugh. You trap yourself with mods, jannies, schizos, and raiders that hate you and will hate you no matter what you do.

>>43005471
Soon my PHPBB forum. It will save the fandom.

>>43006246
Anon I don't know how to tell you this but that is still immensely hard for most people, including me

>>43006289
Cool. Can't wait for you to leave again you pantywaist. Tell your other two buddies on nhnb I said "fuck you."

>>43006298
No can do, we don't give a fuck about petty drama in the promised land. That's for you here on /mlp/, AKA Ponychanlite.

>>43006301
>Look in (((promised land)))
>It's all purity spiral autism

>>43006301
>"we don't give a fuck about petty drama" he says as he champions a website that only exists because of petty drama

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Use your autism for making art and improve, not to ree here all day.
>hur dur I was born without talent
The cool art you see getting praise and reposting over and over was made on the foundations of learning or luck. Not "talent".
Every person haves his own fight with time and motivation to do something remarkable. In the mean time you at least make happy yourself and your peers

what would it take to make nhnb or poner viable alternatives?

>>43006304
>>43006308
If you enjoy the Barbiefag stranglehold on /mlp/, then more power to you.

>>43006325
The most active thread on that shithole was bitching about /mlp/. There is no grass is greener, just annoying aspies huffing their own farts.

>>43006311
https://derpibooru.org/images/2473590
This is the first drawing of someone with talent
It is better and has more soul than anything I've made in years

>>43006322
For NHNB: more traffic, also a bit less purity spiraling.

For /poner/: not being run by known trolls for one, or an admin that enjoys striped porn.

>>43006333
The most active thread here is second life trannies ERPing, your point is? Maybe if you lot stopped bitching when janny abused his power and actually used an alternative you would be happier.

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>>43006311
>The cool art you see getting praise and reposting over and over was made on the foundations of learning or luck. Not "talent".
HA!
I already fell for those lies before.

>>43006345
>It's OKAY when our janny abuses power though
And you wonder why nobody likes your (((solution)))

>>43006344
>I don't get the point.
Preventing raids and low quality shitposts. Two of the main things that have been killing /mlp/.

>>43006355
Enforcing clear cut rules isn't abuse. If you don't like good rules you can saunter on over to /mlpol/, they accept anything.

>>43006345
>The most active thread here is second life trannies ERPing,
Nope. It's the Tamer thread.
Which isn't better.

>>43006355
Oh hahaha, it's the barbietranny that tried to worm its way in during the hack lol

How did it feel that no matter what you did you couldn't succeed at infiltrating like a cockroach again?

>>43006361
You mental cases literally raid threads you don't like and camepeign it to have it banned even if rules allow it. Nhnb is the worst collection of the worst users of /mlp/ sans barbiefags, you are still obnoxious niggers.
Case in point >>43006364

>>43006364
I wish he'd put the Babsflag back on, makes it funnier when it tricks my mind into reading it in a city slicker autist voice.

>>43006322
Not much. Just 2-3 threads moving over.

>Check favorite artists' first ever posted art
>Miles better than you starting out today
Guess that's it.

>>43006368
Surely you have examples of these raids?

>>43006375
There's a guy spamming a couple of barbie threads on here right now but that's also a testament to how much the jannies babysit barbie threads, because it gets deleted almost instantly, but off-topic frognigger threads stay up for hours.

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>>43006356
At the cost of killing off the site entirely, while one obsessed janitor nukes someone posting suggestive pony content because it isn't in the dedicated nsfw board, if NHNB wants to steal /mlp/'s traffic, then fucking loosen up the "anti-spam" bullshit. Every single time I go there I see threads from 2020-2021 still up, with months/years old replies.

>>43006363
/opg/ and tamers both thrive off of offboarder fags, which enter /mlp/ by proxy (friends of friends, xitter posts, etc).
A good chunk of post quality degradation can just be attributed to people not wanting to "lurk moar", and the term which was originally good advice (figure out the culture before posting) turned into another insult to shitfling at others if they didn't know a chunk of /mlp/ history or some obscure 4cc reference (though the 4cc has stooped to such a level that it's no longer worth watching and is yet another source of offboarder faggots when they post their janitor protected threads since weedman/etc higher ups of the 4cc don't care for and refuse to post pony.)

>>43006375
The ones where you try to enforce nhnb purity enshittification here since you have a dead board, or the ones where you attack your own members and claim victory if you can twist the autistic faggot of an admin into even more purity spiraling?

>>43006368
>camepeign it to have it banned
The only thing people wanted was to have it contained on a separate subboard such as /eqg/. But the cocksucker in charge (Twimod) ignored that request even when it was BY FAR the most popular request, along with IDs. Instead we got flags.

>>43006387
I'm asking you for specifics. Tell me, which threads are being raided?

>>43006399
Watch him claim that anons not liking barbie threads is somehow an NHNB raid kek.

>>43006399
I see it's back to the selective amnesia denial status quo that you inbreeds operate on.

>>43006410
The burden of proof lies on you.

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>>43006404
I'm not expecting a real answer. I know how these things go.
And besides, how could an imageboard with no users conduct a raid?

>>43006414
We shadow clone jutsu'd, that's how. Just like one of his barbie animes!

>>43006413
Sorry people don't have the memoryspan of a goldfish, nhnbjew.

>>43006410
Yep, I'm a poor little amnesiac. Now be a dear and tell me what threads were being raided. It should be pretty easy to pull them up since you're so passionate about it, no?

>>43006417
No one knows what you're talking about, Paco the Taco. Don't you have questionably aged monkeys to fap to? I noticed you took an absence when making the Shadowbolts thread.

>>43006414
>Bitter users shit up board to drive traffic to (((sanctuary)))
>ehrmm we can't raid at all :)

>>43006429
Why aren't you charging rent yet?

>>43006429
If we really wanted to do that we would just post barbie threads, lmao. Show us this shit you speak of.

>>43006428
>You have a problem with our shithole you must be my boogeyman
>We din do noffin
>Also when we do it, we giggle and hifive eachother
This is the kind of mental illness that nhnb appeals to. Only the biggest shitflinging retards see any value in that shithole.

>>43006440
Your style of arguing sounds familiar...

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Hang on I'll speak to him in a language he understands:
>"Five posts. You have five more posts to provide any evidence of these raids or else I'll blow this thread to smithereens."

>>43006443
Search boogeyman on desu and observe.

>>43006443
He IS from the favela, after all...

>>43006447
Needs more cuckposting to get through to him, throw in a yabba dabba doo for good measure.

>>43006448
>No one has ever used boogeyman before it must all be one person
Retard.

>>43006455
>please! Don't observe that I always post in the same style because I'm a one note retard!

>>43006464
>I-ignore the fact I'm bringing /a/ shitposting material to the thread objectively spic culture, but you're definitely the favela one UHHHH one note!
Retard.

>>43006385
A slow board of quality is infinitely better than a still slow board of garbage.

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You would think somebody with a chip on their shoulder wouldn't hesitate to show proof of these "raids" that would make the people he hates look bad.

>>43006374
nta but my first posted art on a booru/DA is not the first art that I've ever drawn. I started drawing well before pony.

nhnb fags raided my thread and killed my dog :(

>>43006472
This single thread has more posts than /poner/ and /fim/ combined do in a day. There's slow and then there's glacial.

>>43006480
Glacial is better than what we have here on /mlp/. If you need constant stimuli you are no better than a tik tok child.

>>43006483
Anon, 4chan was the original ADHD-brained website. Posts disappear forever, if you go away for a week every thread's brand new, that's how the site has been since 2008. Saying that's somehow a bad thing is just admitting you want something other than 4chan, which is fine, but I like 4chan. I liked it more 15 years ago but I still like it now.

Newfags don't know but there was a time once when there was so much OC posted in a day here you couldn't even keep up with it even if you had nothing else to do. Sure there was shitflinging, but the SNR was much higher. A lot of anons got into creating just from the inspiration of being around so many others who were doing the same thing; there wasn't all this carping about not having talent and some secret cabal of drawfags.

>>43006496
Drawfags raped my waifu. I will not rest until they flee the fandom for their sins.

>>43006496
At its peak, this board was ten times faster than it is now. How things have changed, huh?

>>43006502
Not just the velocity but the content. Greens were probably like 40x more frequent than they are now. they're basically on life support.

>>43006494
This is true. 4chan has always been for people who enjoy high-octane posting speed. Back on /b/ when I discovered it 2 decades ago a thread would be on the board for only a couple of minutes before it was pushed off if it got no replies. Threads that were active with new content were gone when I went to bed and woke up the next day (which is why I liked the archives, although I also agree with moot that it destroyed the ephemeral nature of 4chan). This is not "Tiktok" behavior, it is what attracted many people to this site. As we got older many people migrated to slower blue boards that suit our age better, but the original pull was definitely the fast-paced posting speed for many people.

>>43006494
You know what? That's actually fair. You're fine with how it is, I'm happy for you. I simply prefer quality over quantity. I'd like for anons who feel the same to have a more fitting home than 4chan.

>>43006506
And most spontaneous greens have gone as well, also in part thanks to the tremendous efforts of our resident moderation team. We can't thank you guys enough!

>>43006506
That's one thing that's been a really dramatic shift in the past fifteen years of the internet. The average quality of writing, drawing etc has gone up as being a professional (or at least semi-pro) creator is more viable than ever, but as a result the average internet user sees it as a career path or something to fully dedicate yourself to rather than something you just do for fun. Creation as a pastime is really dying and that's quite sad.

>>43006506
And now I don't read any greens at all. Kinda sad but what can you do?

>>43006515
Money is the death of passion. I kind of hope AI lights a fire under artists ass just so we can get people doing art for fun again rather than trying to earn shekels drawing fetishes.

>>43006472
>Of quality
Where?

Wrote some greens the last few years and they did well, but the board climate makes it hard to care enough to do more.

>>43006529
>Money is the death of passion.
I mean I don't necessarily disagree, but people gotta eat you know? And wageslaving 3 jobs doesn't leave much free time to spend on drawing. I'm doing okay personally but I'm not an artist, but people in the US seem pretty fucked. Even college graduates aren't doing well.

>>43006529
I feel like the core problem there is the reason people are so desperate to monetize their hobbies is because they're stretched so thin as is. Fixing that unfortunately isn't something that a website can do.

>>43006523
Try to make a conscious effort to bring it back, maybe? I'm not much of a writer myself but I did a bit of content creating into the void on /pone/ for similar reasons, back when it still existed. But the problem here isn't just lack of users, it's also low quality users.
>>43006531
Yeah. It's like the environment was the crux that let us flourish, but now that it's shifted so much it feels more like a slow self-reinforcing death spiral.

>>43006537
What a cruel reality, fetishfags have the money to commission but artists don't have the financial security to create.

>>43006515
One should give everything of himself to anything he does

>>43006529
GAyi was a demotivational outside force. It's not inspirational to have to share breath with things that are ok with slop, regardless of who's pushing or consuming it. The fire under the ass will not be the norm, but the exception.

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>>43006549
>Try to make a conscious effort to bring it back
Been there, done that. Nothing I tried worked. I just shitpost now, it's all that's left to do here.

>>43006496
There is a somewhat private cabbal of artists like in the furry fandom, and other fandoms, a bit like the school of sorcerers.

>>43006564
Who is in this cabal? So I can terrorize them of course.

>>43006564
There is are some Discord cliques of horsefucker artists yes. but I think the idea that they are all actively conspiring to put beginner artists down is an invention concocted by the local retardnigger(s) here to deflect responsibility from their unwillingness to put in the work and git gud

>>43006576
Yeah. They just shill themselves aggressively

>>43006578
Everyone here is shilling something though. There's an anon who aggressively shilled vapor trail for awhile

>>43006560
I wonder if the board needs some kind of content creation event that is just on the board, for the board only. like the game jams but more general. or prompts from T:EM/P/O when those were a thing

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>>43006662
Maybe it'll help. Maybe it won't. I don't know, and personally I wouldn't care if they happened or not. I already gave up on this shithole and the stragglers that still come here.

>>43006662
The ratio of creatives to raiders/trolls is too out of wack for it to work, but one can hope.

>>43001527
What did you say to Rarity that made her have this face?

>>43006705
Nothing. My aura naturally makes females dislike me.

>>43006746
Anon... shower more often. Please.

>>43006342
>purity spiraling
They may be more restrictive in content than here, but is it really spiraling if they haven't changed since the day they opened?

>>43006858
No.

>>43006506
I personally think Scruffening 2.0 is to blame. The rules may be reverted but the writefags never came back.

>>43006867
They whined to the admin to have more things banned during the hack and shit up said threads, it's the definition of purity spiraling

>>43006890
That was /mlp/ refugees, not NHNB regulars. Way to prove yourselves as the problems.

>>43006890
What did the admin do?

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>>43006955
>Muh no true horseman
Nope, not buying it.

>>43001552
indeed, love all his human/pony artwork
>>43002737
your art good friend

>>43003373
for me i look at the filenames first.

>>43007004
less than a hand full of people will actually read the filename. you gotta make shit very fucking obvious. the average person hardly reads unless its clickbait.

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>>43003294
Here you go anon, a unique and never posted before amateur drawing by me who is new to drawing and drawing mares since 4 months ago.

>>43007020
This is cute artstyle.

>>43007020
I like it.

>>43006556
Seethe. AI is here to stay so you better adapt or get replaced.

>>43006564
>>43006574
I only know that there's a secret pedo cabal with people like Shinodage and Pestil in it, though I have no idea how people get in. They probably also share legit pizza with each other in there since they're so secretive about it.

>>43006867
Doesn't matter. The fact they banned G5 despite it having nothing to do with the creation of the board (the rejection of barbies) was enough to dissuade me. I like to discuss other things besides G4, and yes I actually like the G5 ponies (the show not so much) so you'll never find me on your site even if 4chan disappears again forever.

>>43006975
I seriously wonder what they even want to talk about on there. The most active thread is literally the one whining they got banned from /mlp/.

>>43007020
:thumbsup:

>>43007137
It's a place made entirely out of spite, what do you expect? They jut get off on having a sekrit club that doesn't allow [thing that pisses the admin off]

>>43007137
Actually, the most active threads on the board revolved around greentext. /bug/ had the early lead with Notaulix. And after that it was mostly /bootleg/ that held a lot of the activity. And there were others as well. But now that most the greens have died off so has a lot of the activity in general.

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>>43007135
>and yes I actually like the G5 ponies

>>43007260
Enjoy your dead board.

>>43002606
Nigga didn't give a single fuck, absolute chad.

>>43006578
You are just as free to shill your own work just as aggressively. You do have work to shill, right, Anon?

>>43007154
/bootleg/ came from /mlp/ you stupid faggot, they were the opposite of nhnb's puritards and only used it as a bunker being knocked off by raids

>>43007293
>Barbiejeet

>>43007293
Anon, all of NHNB originated from /mlp/. And it's not an issue. NHNB isn't in competition with the board. It's just another website that Anon's can also post about fim on.

How did this thread even become about NHNB anyway? I thought this was supposed to be about wacky artist names?

>>43007297
>barbie out of thin air
Bro's fighting ghosts

>>43007316
It became about nhnb because like always, nhnb autists spewing their crap about their purity spiral being good and we should all just post there >>43006250 when the only time they're friendly is when you suck the cock and fall in line

>>43006226
Good goy, keep taking those shoahs, no matter how unlawful they are.

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>>43006453
Would a yabbapasta about his favorite orange barbie suffice?

>>43007386
'fraid so.

>>43007126
>The tumor is here to stay we just can't go back to pre-cancer, you'll have to accept all the cancer and pay for subsidizing endless slop like a good goy
Lemming moment. You embrace sterile stagnation and play defense for megacorps subsidizing scalping costs to the population like a cuck as they exit the market.
>Oh DDR5 is all used up. and DDR4 too?
>Waow you mean I can still use DDR3?? and it's going to spike too? thank you sir, can I get some more?
>Don't l ike it? Just be an eternal rentoid and own nothing and make jews happy

>>43006289
No, it's funny to see threads like this, they deserve it.
>[content I liked] is gone/arbitrarily nuked by the jeets but at least they give us these meta threads to member berry

>>43007135
>board for horses
>gets mad when dogs get banned
Hey, I have no love for that dead place either. But at least they stick to their rules.
And btw, eqg will always be more relevant than g5. It's literally part of g4 and has some pony.

>>43007432
>am I fitting in yet guise?

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ITT: Gays and women upset over men preferring cool and stupid names. In a predominantly straight male fandom.

>>43007651
I thought they were arguing about the relevance of G5 and Barbies in this board.

>>43001592
It was a joke about keeping my pony art separate, give me some slack jack

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>nhnb bad
why?
>because they keep purity spiraling
how are they purity spiraling?
>because they won't let me post about eqg
every single time

>>43001600
Genital Worms

>>43001527
leave my boy vomitvomiting alone!

>>43008068
Another nhnobrain post

>>43007410
It's not going to go away dude. No matter how much you bitch and moan about it on this board. You think Big Tech gives a single shit about your opinion, made on this site no less? So shut the fuck up, the rest of us are having fun with AI and the fact you can't buy a shiny new hardware toy is utterly meaningless to anyone, especially since every computer from even several years back can easily handle ANY workload you throw at it, except AI generation of course. So maybe you have something to tell us? Or is that new 128 GB DDR5 rig you wanted to get really only meant as your cock substitute?

>>43008874
Why do aijeets always think they're high and mighty majority when all they do is output a high quantity of shit on a plate? The only ones who eat it up are barbiefags, third worlders like you. And the sucking of corporate cock is the icing on the shit covered cake.

>>43008908
So what do you need that memory upgrade for again? I was right on the money wasn't I?

>>43008425
guys the mares are smug and condescending again for the 999th time! isn't that funny?

>>43008948
It isn't about needing it now, it's about you being cucked out of future upgrades. Like the goodest goy you are cheerleading being left behind by big tech and their incessant need of paying eachother in a giant circlejerk.
Aijeets have only ever coped with model upgrades and hardware upgrades because they can't improve anything themselves and are too stupid to understand you're being intentionally cut off from owning any hardware required to do shit locally.
Aislop images are still trash immitations, there's never been a model that makes up for it. All the gpu cope only increased the resolution of the slop.
Aislop video is next which is 100x more resource heavy but I'm sure you'll be such a happy cuck and pay the subscription price again, afterall you already do it with imageslop like nanobanana

And it isn't only ram, all technology everywhere is now going to be scalping prices because of your faggotass gacha dopamine addiction.

>>43008984
Christ I'm not reading all that tripe. Try reformatting your text so it doesn't have a 20:1 ratio of buzzwords to arguments.

>companies buying up consumer hardware is good actually
>you don't need that ddr5 anyways (even though ddr4 and ssds are ballooning in price too but please ignore that)
>who cares that you can't upgrade (a thing that's been a standard since pretty much all of home computing history)
>why do you even need a computer anyways
Eyyup

>>43008996
So, no real arguments besides sour grapes I see.

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>>43008990
Run it through an LLM to summarize for you, aibrainlet.

>>43009023
I don't think even an AI could make heads or tails of what you wrote.

The fuck is this thread about?

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>>43009031
>trans furries scoffing at men's naming schemes
>a balefag mad that he's not getting attention
>image board rivalries and their slow deaths
>AI schizophrenia <---You are here.

>>43008996
All aibrown shills are indistinguishable from corposhills. They will all parrot the line that you should just use subscription services for everything because they view it as normal in a slaveclass system. Renting hardware with reduced privacy and eternally in dependency. Aifaggots have no agency and are locked to suck on the teat of the big tech human-gpu-human-centipede

>>43009060
Thanks.

>>43009031
Its literally some /v/ tier or sharty bullshit.

>>43009069
That's not AI the problem, it's a consequence. Artists behaves like corporation exploiting the community, and that's wrong.
If Artists were nicer and acted less feeling superior we wouldn't need AI art.

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>>43008973
This but unironically.

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>>43006218
Dangerously false. We all start at different points, but there is no practical limit to growth. "Talent" is simply what you already understand, whether you know it or not.

You don't need to know you have a skill to have that skill.
You don't need to know you have a skill to be using that skill.
You don't need to know how a skill works to use it.

Different people randomly pick up different things in life, causing all this variation in "talent". If you have a good mentor and you learn how to learn, you can learn any skill you aren't physically incapable of.

Do you have hands and eyes? Great. You can learn to draw the same as anyone else.

You probably don't have a great mentor and most people have no idea how learning works, so here's the Just Do It route to *force* yourself to learn: Stop overthinking things. Don't worry about how anything works. Most people have no idea what a phoneme is and barely understand grammar, but that doesn't stop them speaking perfectly-pronounced grammatically-correct sentences every day. How do you learn to pronounce a new word? You hear other people say it, then repeat it until you sound the same.

What that means for drawing is simple: Draw, nigga, draw! Doesn't matter what. Doesn't matter how poorly as long as you can see what's wrong. Can't draw "from imagination" yet? Then copy something. Trace it if you have to. There's absolutely nothing wrong with copying things to learn. Don't feel shame, and don't think you're stealing. Keep doing that until you pick details up just as naturally as you picked up your mother tongue as a baby. You didn't learn to talk from a dictionary. Stupid computer AIs learn this way, and so can you, and *you* won't tell me to glue toppings to my pizza when I complain about them falling off.

Don't believe it's that simple? Go watch ponies in Hindi or Mandarin or something, an episode or two a day for just a week, and you'll find you can magically hear the sounds of that language's speech more clearly than when you started. You can differentiate sounds that were identical before. You can hear separate syllables that were blurred together. Doesn't matter if you don't know a single word. Learning from things you expose yourself to isn't optional. It *will* happen, whether you want it to or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ58-MHkg3U

>>43009909
>Artists aren't giving me free shit ENOUGH, we need to exploit them and make everything worse for everyone except ME.
Sour grapes.

>>43001527
Why is disgust such a hot emotion though...

>>43010452
i like to think she's only pretending to be disgusted
she's at least considering it