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Nervous Edition
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Mari~
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he did
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>G5 ep
God that and before really was the golden age of tamers' mlp wasn't it? Time changes people, I've been watching since the golden age of SU and I feel like I've watched the channel evolve into something unrecognizable. VAs, dandy, constant melodrama, and the schism between brothers. The one constant is farts... if that ever goes, then all is lost.
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>thing happens
>"AAAAAAAA THIS IS THE END IT'S OVER TAMERS IS RUINED FOREVER NOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>nothing happens
>"AAAAAAAA THIS IS THE END IT'S OVER TAMERS IS RUINED FOREVER NOOOOOOOOOOOO"
>me
>"oh cool another Tamers episode"
>"that was great! Looking forward to the next one"
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>"that sucked, hope the next one's better"
feels good man
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>>43150796
Honestly based mentality.
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So... the drama begins
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>>43151029
He does DW cosplay
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>>43151030
This isn't my problem and you would be wise to realise it's not your problem either.
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>>43151019
Arinosfags are rising up :^)
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My WIFE and her greasy slimy unwashed sulfurous fart spewing ponut!
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>>43150527
Well when will he have a big role?
Also, is the pony on the far left G5?
>>43150627
I wish i was around during those times.
I hope things get better.
And yeah Dandy's World does feel out of place in the line up. Something like Winx Club, Code Lyoko, Vocaloids or something else spun off of SU (Or MLP in Winx Club's case.) would have been a better fit.
>>43150822
What flavor would he like? Banana maybe?
>>43151026
Only 28 views
Don't make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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Based.
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>>43151669
As a real character? In Flawless opens a portal.
But she appeared early on in the background of the Rainbow Dash Must Perform the Sonic Rainboom episode. As a background pony that dies during the explosion. She also appeared on Death of Trixie Lulamoon but didn't have any lines.
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>>43151128
Legends say... There's 4 nations of shipping:
>The SHIPPER
>The PRO SHIPPER
>The SELF SHIPPER
>The CRACK SHIPPER
The one that masters them all will be called...The GUY™.
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>>43151826
On this thread alone we have the 4 nations
>Shippers: Regular Twixiefags / any ship
>ProShippers: Fillyfags, LunaxCelestiafags
>The SelfShipper: Glimmyfag and Marifag(?
>The CrackShipper: Flawrinos fag (only)
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>>43151982
Legit forgot I drew this
I think it's based on someone else art but I don't remember which one
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>>43151850
>>The CrackShipper: Flawrinos fag (only)
>really thinks there's only one Flawrinoschad
anyway, me and my wife
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>>43152073
I consider myself a fan of the character but I don't wife em. Not my style.
We need a Clean Sweep fag to balance it out :^)
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>>43152002
https://x.com/CFF_dies/status/1988732470364393633
found it
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>sequel to the Joker movie releases
>fans of the first movie and critics shit on it
>tamers drops absolute kino not too long after
>sequel to the Mario movie releases
>fans of the first movie and critics shit on it
>????????
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>>43152950
https://www.tamersarchive.com/videos/my-little-pony-pinkie-pie-partici pates-in-a-joke-off?theme=dark
Just this one. They have a couple more cameos later on but nothing important.
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>>43152954
Yup
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>>43152954
It's a really good episode though, in fact some of the ideas for the G5s' character arcs are immensely more interesting than anything their actual shows came up with
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>>43153004
I went out of my way to watch the G5 movie just because of the Tamers video. And yeah ya right.
That one episode is one of my personal favs for rewatching.
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>>43152954
theyshow up for one really funny scene in alicorn of death. you should watch it
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>>43153009
How did you like Zipp? I love how Tamers depicted her. So pretty and that tomboy energy.
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>>43152521
>Are people hating the new mario movie?
I haven't seen it so no spoilers but from what i noticed from Reddit people are calling it nothing more than a commercial and some even calling it Nintendo's Space Jam 2 so i can only make assumptions on that.
But hey, i enjoyed Space Jam 2 so i most likely will enjoy this.
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Any of you getting something to eat? I'm having coffee once again. (I know it's Dandy's but still a premiere)
>>43153322
They knew what was coming to them. Crack will always be the superior nation.
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>>43153616
Eh, i won't be here for the premiere, i want my first live Tamers premiere (At least my first one in years.) to be a Mare episode, and then i will be eating nacho chips with Cineplex jalapeno cheese dip.
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On the movie I barely remember her to be honest.
In the Tamers episode she was really funny. Her backstory was my favorite gag of the episode. Does she have a canon father? I recall the queen being alone in that movie.
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>>43153655
About to have tortilla chips and nacho cheese too.
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>67 in the prechat
Man I'm not going to lie, I watch every tamers video and enjoy them all... but tamers2 gives MASSIVE unc groomer vibes, especially since he started doing dandy. I mean they've both had pedo jokes ever since SU, but the pursuit of it and getting in with the kids feels a lot different now.
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The Sid segments are hilarious, but you can't tell me it feels even remotely the same. Gourdy segments feel like old tamers pedo jokes. But outside of that there's such a genuine push, every single tamers2 episode, to target a popular fandom with kids the exact age to not know better, but still understand sexualization. It's sneaky, insidious, and playing a wolf in sheep's clothing. Stallion episodes don't feel like this when he writes them because the demographic is obviously different. I'm sure this post will get written off, and I too used to defend him because dandy was funny in the beginning. It's just episode after episode at this point I'm starting to see just how groomy this shit is.
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>>43153967
Yeah it was pretty funny. I was surprised the VA for Cosmo actually voiced him throughout the whole thing, i thought it'd be for like a 5 second gag or something.
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>>43153969
Dandy is in this weird middle area where it’s trying to be the dumb wacky suburban misadventures of Sonic Underground while also dipping its toe in the super serious MLP gay drama. I still don’t know how to feel about it despite it being around for several videos.
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>>43153972
Not to disrespect the dude. I don't really care but the TTS voice was funnier... That guy just sounds so deadpan most of the time.
If Tamers wants to keep using his voice maybe have him for small line readings or smth.
>>43153967
It was funny. That leaked screencap caugth me off guard tho lol
So are we finally getting a real arc for Dandy?
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>>43153695
i thought you were talking about care package for some reason
everyone hates clean sweep but i like his tts, so i can be the clean sweep fag that this thread needs
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Mari nooooo
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Based nacho bro.
>>43153695
I don't mind CleanSweep but there's not much to him and he doesn't really have any memorable jokes, maybe some good moments, but other than that selfie in the latest episode i really can't think of a time when he made me laugh.
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>>43153938
The odd sexualization of kid characters creep me out.
Sid getting raped did not feel good to watch and him sexualizing the girl from Lazy Town repulsed me with disgust as she's a real life little girl.
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I'll give my thoughts after i watch it
I'll go watch it now.
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Guy, my Gigabyte computer monitor is busted.
How much money will it cost to fix it and will it be fixed in time for the next Mare episode?
>>43153967
It was nice. Didn't really make me laugh but i found humor in it and the series is starting to get intriguing.
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Remember to not respond to the tr*pfag menace
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>New challenger approaching
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>>43154718
Sovless vs Sovl
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Which one would be more crack-like?
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>>43154794
Parcel Core, Clean Sweep, and Future Soarin are tied for the worst stallion characters.
With the latest stallion episode, PC has the most potential for a redemption arc of those three but even so, he still feels as forced as the therapy scene in the same movie he premiered in; said scene is the most washed up moment in the entirety of post-TDOTS tamers we've ever seen.
This is partly why Dandy's World is preferable to another gay stallion episode. At this point, Dandy's world is doing the gay drama better.
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Cosmo VA fit a lot better than I expectect. It's like he was mimicing the dry cadence of TTS.
Total opposite of when tamers voices a character himself
Also I like that these two girls are consistently supporting Dandy, just hanging out in the background of every episode. Dandy isn't a "loser" character, he's just 100% gay.
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I think there's a problem with the OC's reception. So let me preface it with something that Tamers said a couple times.
>"This is not an OC show"
This took me a bit to understand because so far the headcanons are so wild most people have personal interpretations on how the characters act as their "Tamers version". Very early on at least you could at engage with the videos because those were characters most people already knew and already liked prior to knowing Tamers stuff. Some hated it, some embraced it as it's own shit. Characters like the mane 6 are well established outside with multiple headcanons and media interpretations and are very easy to understand from the get go. Even characters like Braeburn, Soarin and Big Mac but to a lesser extent. But that's not a privilege that the "OC" characters have. But then I dig deeper into it and just realized. Most OC's don't have a clear goal defined anymore. At least not the ones introduced post-CleanSweep. And because this isn't an "OC focused show" they cannot have enough screentime because if they do and people don't like them you end up with another Clean Sweep situation where you have 2 movies dedicated to him and still most people can't find reasons to care about him.
What's an OC or not varies from people but if the headcanon is too strong that it cannot even resemble the og's version anymore. I think we're steping into OC territory. I've heard people saying Mari wasn't an OC just because she's Trixie's twin sister and it doesn't really make sense to me. I believe a character it's more than it's design. But we can make a compromise.
Let's say there's an OC'tism spectrum (lol). In Tamers you have the mane 6 which are real characters that even when exagerated you can get thet're based on the original 6 (Except for Fluttershy), then characterers like Apple Split and Care Package that have designs that came from real background ponies but with barely any character of their own (Their personalities and story are the OC side of em). Then the PURE OC'TisM donut steel. Flawless, Arinos, Friendship, Parcelcore, etc. Characters like Future Soarin or Mari are so derivative in their origins that I'm not actually sure where to put them. But they're inbetween this sandvich I suppose.
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>So why do I think OC's fall flat for most people?
Lack of proper focus. I think Tamers doesn't have the confidence to put the focus on a pure OC because of the previous backlash with Clean Sweep (Except for Flawless because Flawless popular). Signs of this were shown since Arinos I think.
What's a focus for an OC?
I'm gonna shoot myself in the head for this example but Apple Split and Care Package are great examples for an strong introduction.
>AppleSplit it's abused by his family and uses sex as a coping mechanism to feel valued and also has a deeply insecure complex over not being an unicorn. (While this could be a metaphor for anything, I think it's more realated to his schizophrenic/dysphoric tendencies)
>Care Package is an autistic calm minded assasin that has an insane lust for killing (but nothing else) and has a weird saviour complex.
This information you can get from the first episode alone. No convoluted backstories or complex dramas, not anything. You even get Apple Split narrating it for you at the start. Also that his biggest goal is to be "on top of the world".
Whether you like this characters or not you have to realize lots of people have already conected with them and understood what's their deal and goals and you can tell by the reception alone.
Now having a set goal in mind is not exclusively necesary for a character to be loved. Flawless started with nothing but conviction and just by that trait she bruteforced her way to become interesting. Characters having an strong beliefs vs their enviroment are also valid. But compare this to a character like ParcelCore.
Introduction as powerful OC (Quite literally an OC made by another character). Kills everyone on a whim. No explanations, no anything. Exists and knows what it is. Perhaps he wants to get revenge on his parents for not letting him destroy everything? For letting him get captured? (I wonder if he was actually killed like Flawless in his movie it would have been better than if he just went to jail time. What Flawless did to revive was an asspull sure but it lead to connections with the Equestria Girls universe and it was at least kinda fun to watch unfold).
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And lots of characters have been devolving into having this issue.
Lack of focus. Even characters like Big Mac that had problems lingering from previous arcs. But cannot get proper screentime anymore. Soarin and Braeburn took a long stepback for the better just because their stories were solved. There's not much to them to do anymore other than stick around. And everyone is competing for attention. Not just on the stallion side. But even on mare side things have gone way over the rails. I'll say even more because it's even more loose in terms of continuity. What happened to Luna and Celestia's arc? Coco Pommel? Rarijack/Raridash? While one can say on going arcs take months to develop I think the main difference I feel between mare and stallion way of writting is how they decide to "play catch up".
>Character doesn't appear much during mare timeline
They've been doing shit/nothing and they just keep going with their lifes after timeskips. No explanations (Or those are very brief, if there's any).
Examples: Mary (died and revived, no real explanation), Glimmer for a while, #13420 (Never see her grow up), Coco Pommel (She's just there after becoming an alicorn and suddently she's Shining Armor step sister), etc.
It's more akin to a sitcom in that regard where you see characters just living life with no consequential stuff happening around them until PLOT hits em in the face.
>Character doesn't appear much during stallion timeline
Narrate all they've been doing so people don't get lost.
Examples: Future Soarin (Massive explanation on where he comes from), Apple Split (Timeskip from BigMack goes to College to AoD), Arinos 'n Friendship (Appearing very briefly sometimes until plot demands them again and explains what they've been up to on Housewives), Clean Sweep (They don't fret too much on what he's been doing prior to becoming a cat thing. But his rivalry with Future Soarin and conections with Friendship and Arinos are mentioned a couple times when he appears so people don't forget).
That said, I think this is more of a consequence of stallion Tamers having to divide attention between Dandy's and Stallions. So every Stallion MLP episode comes once a month or so. Despite the last two episodes being more SOL inclined they still have progression for some characters slip onto them.
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>>43154940
So for the more puritans that don't consider the previous characters OC's. I'll make a rundown of why certain characters "fall flat":
>Clean Sweep
Doesn't know what he wants. He's said it multiple times. All mouth no bark and his development is being held back for whatever reason. Current love arc with Big Mac isn't engaging enough for most people due to being a rehash of a previous arc.
>ParcelCore
No goals, no proper objective or motivations other than being a force of destruction. Maybe revenge?
>Fractured
Massive misspotential. Implied wanting to fuse with her other self to become stronger but that's it. Just as empty as OG Flawless. Nothing has been done with her yet but after many appearances being mogged I fear she won't be as relevant by herself. Only when she's with Flawless.
>Future Soarin
Only objective is to win Big Mac's love over Clean Sweep's attempts. Not compeling anymore since we've seen an arc like this with SoarburnMac. No real consequences if he doesn't achieve it and he's shown remorse over exploting while not getting what he wants and all signs lead to him letting Big Mac go so Clean Sweep doesn't lose the only thing he cares in life.
>Friendship/Arinos
Barely coming back from arc stasis. Friendship just wants real friends. Arinos wants to discover who he is while also having to deal with his corruption. Fall flat over not developing their proper arcs after their redemption in Infection. They're at least given some stuff to do after half a year.
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>>43154941
Now if we talk about characters that people love that's more relative. I think characters are going to be loved regardless if they're important or even interesting. Arinos has done barely anything and yet he keeps getting more love than most stallion OC's. Same with characters like #13420 that we get to see very sparingly. Mari despite being revived over nothing with the biggest asspull yet keeps getting more and more fans and people dig her relationship with Glimmer. Most of what I've been pointing out it's a rundown of what I believe people's perception is about this characters with some of my points. But honestly I think people are welcome to enjoy whatever character they want. But having a character that drags the narrative could become it's own issue.
Overall, I trust Tamers because many of the complaints have been resolved in their own way. People were complaining about lack of SOL episodes for stallions. We've gotten two in a row. People didn't want Clean Sweep, he's been taking the backseat.
First impressions are important, no doubt, so hopefully we'll see some characters take action before it's too late.
TLDR:
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So I've decided to make an updated version of the timelines.
I'll try to keep it updated but here some sidenotes.
>Neutral episodes leaning towards stallion timeline
For this graph I've tried to prioritize order of upload, character exclusivities and the storylines. Episodes like StarSong and Toola Roola Come to Visit or Scootaloo introduces Rainbow Dash to her family have a tendency towards the stallion timeline due to having characters like Scootaloo's aunts (Which only appear on stallion episodes) and Toola Roola and Starsong (That have mostly appeared on neutral episodes and stallion ones). The first episode could be considered pure neutral but it's the one that kickstarted Braeburn's arc so I believe it's leaning more towards the stallion timeline (Actually now that I think about it the SU crossover had a follow up since Twilight still remembers it for the next one. Oops). Meanwhile you have neutral episodes like Lemonade Stand that contain Pinkie Pie sisters but they also appear at Braeburn and Soarin Wedding so they're not timeline exclusive.
>HUGE DISCLAIMER THIS IS NOT RELATED ON WHO(of the two Tamers)MADE EACH EPISODE IT'S ONLY MEANT TO ORGANIZE STORYLINES
>This also doesn't take into account the "Two Timelines Merge Theory". I'll do another one about that someday.
I've considered adding titles and release dates but since the compression is too shitty I'll drop it for now. The episodes surrounded by a blue frame are considered movie-sized or have movie on their titles. Red frame is live-action but we only got one of those.
Let me know if you guys disagree on anything.
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Starsong + Toola Roola might be true neutral because there is also a flawless cameo in that episode
In Pinkie Pie's sleepover there is a brief moment where you can see Twilight accidentally reveal a doctored photo of herself and Trixie.
In the G5 episode Twilight calls Trixie her "girlfriend" while cheering up Izzy
Maybe i missed something but curious why some episodes are highlighted in light blue or red?
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>Starsong + Toola Roola might be true neutral because there is also a flawless cameo in that episode
Completely forgot about that one. You're right.
>In Pinkie Pie's sleepover there is a brief moment where you can see Twilight accidentally reveal a doctored photo of herself and Trixie.
I'm trying to leave character mentions out during the first season because that was when they still tried to hold onto a single continuity. Even Trixie appearing at Hot Pot was odd.
>In the G5 episode Twilight calls Trixie her "girlfriend" while cheering up Izzy
I've talked about that episode at length in the last thread. I'm still very conflicted about it because they appear in both timelines but never had any relevance in either post that first episode. They appeared at the end credits of Shattered Harmony and as a cameo in Twilight Fights a clown and Alicorn of Death. But since they haven't got another episode the only thing that it contributes to the timeline is Twilight mentioning Trixie's gone for her training with Luna. That's why I put it on true neutral.
>Why some episodes are highlighted in light blue or red?
"The episodes surrounded by a blue frame are considered movie-sized or have movie on their titles. Red frame is live-action but we only got one of those".
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>>43153684
Zipp and Pipp's father isn't known, nor are Hitch or Izzy's parents, and Sunny's mother unless you count TYT slop as canon. There has clearly been some large-scale war before the tribes separated in the G5 universe.
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>>43155368
"Pinkie pie and rainbow dash break up" is a stallion episode
The gas station scene lines up with the end credits of alicorn of death
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Honestly I'm pretty sure some episodes are worked on by both of them. I mean tamers2 had just released the big mac movie, it would be strange for him to be next to release another video fully done by him. The video was segmented for a reason, maybe they're just splitting up their contributions due to friction.
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Speaking for yourself here.
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Source?
>>43155453
I wonder why.
Odd things happening with Tamers nowadays.
Maybe he's moving them to another channel with more Winx Club stuff.
I would love to wathch Tamers review World of Winx with how wild that was.
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wehns tamers gonna post his old cooking videos somehwere those were comfy af the last thing we had close to that was in Everybody Hates Rainbow Dash (super underrated episode btw)
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ABSOLUTELY FUCKING LOVE THIS
Goddaaaang Arinosfags are eating well.
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having a pretty face will take you far
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Hell yeah :^3
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At least they're on the archive.
https://odysee.com/@tamers12345museum:0
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>>43155453
I'm guessing it's because a) they drag down the average engagement of the channel which does dumb shit to The Almighty Algorithm and b) he's never going to do the rest, so sitting there as an incomplete, off-channel, off-algorithm and never-finished set of videos didn't have much purpose, especially since he knows it all gets archived anyway.
It's a shame because I actually liked them
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>>43158476
Well, at least I remembered one thing from that episode...
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I interpreted that as Shining being such a prettyboy fag lab-designed to make panties wet that even Mari sees him as an honorary woman
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>>43155368
Changes:
>Moved the pilot to pure neutral due to have the first bit of Braeburn story-arc for stallion's timeline and the SU crossover that continue on mare's one.
>Moved StarSong and Toola Roola Come to Visit to pure neutral because of the Flawless cameo.
>Moved the G5 episode towards mare timeline because the only thing that carries on from that episode is sorta relevant to Twixie's storyline. (It might change to pure neutral if anything changes, so far the cameos they had on stallion episodes have no meaningful stuff that carries on)
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There's also a montage on Porta-potty when Apple Split is narrating his backstory you can see clips from DoTS. Also a Flawless cameo during the credits. Mentions like that are very brief. If you ask me I think the divide was starting to get more apparent in Soarin and Braeburn's wedding (When Twilight mentions "her new window" that Fluttershy destroys referencing the previous episode from mare timeline when her house gets destroyed) and the breakingpoint being Pinkie pie and Rainbow Dash break up (Where the stallion scene got scrapped was used for Alicorn of Death post-credit scenes). Everything after that hasn't made any sort of attempt of keeping up with the conections between timelines. Coincidentally, since the Dandy series began there hasn't been a single truly neutral episode. (Style-wise I think Pinkie Pie And Rarity Bake Halloween Cookies is the last episode made by both of them together but I digress).
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It would have been a stallion episode/neutral if that scene didn't get scrapped. That episode has more conections with the PinkiePie and RainbowDash breakup arc from the mare timeline when their relationship is starting to fade. They're still together at the end but the drama from that episode still carries on in the Ski Trip episode. Also RD starting to show more interest on Rarity.
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT RELATED ON WHO(of the two Tamers)MADE EACH EPISODE IT'S ONLY MEANT TO ORGANIZE STORYLINES
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>>43158556
She did it specifically to get him to hit back so she can claim misogyny and make men look bad.
Starlight was even recording it.
She even does this multiple other times off screen as seen in her epilogue.
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For a long time people pointed out the "Two Timelines Theory" and had that episode as the first sign for it. Because in that episode Twilight rejects Trixie and in the next episode she appears has Twilight changing her mind completely and it felt so out of place that it stablished itself as it's own separate line.
That said, there's multiple shared constants on both timelines. Characters can appear in both but that doesn't mean they follow the same story. Scotaloo and Sweety Belle eyeswap is a constant for both timelines and it happened on a neutral episode. It's mostly a mix of wild guessing and trying to put some pieces together with all the plotholes in a way that makes "sense".
So we have two situations in which the universe gets "rewinded" or "rewritten". First with Soarin changing a random timeline where he never meets Braeburn (Infection) that directly affects an earlier episode. Repercussions of the time travels are very inconsistent and somehow inconsequential due to the movie being messy about that in favour of spectacle but that's all we get from it. And the second instance would be Trixie in Death of Trixie Lulamoon where she destroys and rewrites reality. And does it again in the Flawless farts Open a portal to another dimension movie to retcon Mari's death.
Although it is not clear what exactly could have caused the split the theory suggests that both timelines take place at the same time, but also that characters can appear in both without having the same story arcs or living the same lives. I don't think it's an intentional choice by them but it could be interesting if explored (most likely never but who knows).
TLDR: Trixie isn't as important on that episode and Twilight's attitude towards her contradicts mare timeline.
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all of tamers is rigged content by the same panbel runnign born to silly and other events on 4chan all their senpai eis fake. been exposed like all the rest. anons choose to ignore and tell you not to see it enjoy snd never question the truth you can speak buyt not question. Tamers loves his dumb fans and is just ob vious nothing hbere is organic. you are being lied to. Tamerspedos are a plague to this board.
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>>43159187
Noted.
Also, is the bowling episode stallion?
I ask because that episode has Blueblood do the "Gay punch!" joke that would be later used by Sprout in Dandy's World.
Or do the two Tamers simply use each other's jokes for fun?
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I guess that means he won't be giving Flawless any babies.
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They use each other's jokes. A huge difference in why I like Tamers1 more is because he writes gay dudes and bitches in his episodes. Definitely less than his SU days, but still more than tamers2 does- he only ever focuses on gayboy shit.
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>Mindy's Sweet Sixteen
Manic being cucked by a random ass clown and saying "Oh Mindy baby don't fuck the birthday clown... You don't know where he's been" always gets me. Also Mark is great in that episode.
That one and maybe the Wizard of Oz episode.
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>>43160111
Isn't that because there's two of them?>>43160155
For me it's The WORST Skii Trip Of Pinkie Pie's LIFE.
I'm a sucker for the winter aesthetic, especially snowy cabins and lodges.
That combine with good character interactions, wholesome moments, laugh out loud comedy, an entertaining fight scene, amazing music, etc, it all works together to create the best episode of Tamers MLP ever and most definitely one of, if not the most underrated episode of the series that i feel should be discussed more.
If anyone wants to discuss the episode with me then i am all open to talking about it.
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I'm a Christian man, sexual intercourse without impregnation feels wrong.
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>>43160415
>I'm a Christian man, sexual intercourse without impregnation feels wrong.
Everything you say I read it with Orel's voice and it becomes 10 times funnier.
Legit question. Why do YOU like Tamers? Like hell, even Christians got mad at the idea of Jesus having a sex life in that fuckass movie The Last Temptation of Christ. How can you even handle the average Tamers episode???
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>>43160155
Memorial day at burger king is fantastic
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>>43160451
I mentioned last thread that i am unable to go in depth as my keyboard is busted (I am using a virtual keyboard app on my old computer.) but since i am getting a new one soon i promise i will provide my full in depth feelings about Tamers and other stuff you mentioned tomorrow or the day after.
But for now i will say that i do feel guilty for enjoying Tamers yet i am able to acknowledge both the good and the bad parts of his videos in term of what is and is not OK in God's Eyes.
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>>43160155
Coco Pommel has her heart stolen
I usually hype up Death of Trixie Lulamoon so I'm being genuine.
The sol stuff at the start was nice and cozy. Felt like it was going to be a nonsense episode like Hotel or Lemonade Stand. Then Mari stepped in and stole Coco's heart. It was a good cliffhanger and brought on intrigue as we see Mari and Trixie in the credits.
Bulk and Derpy were amazing as an unfortunate couple.
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>>43160415
Tamers12345 will always choose whatever is funnier at the moment.
for example in the skii episode, they show Rarity in a abusive lesbian relationship with applejack.
despite showing multiples times that:
>rarity was a closeted lesbian
>applejack was the only straight woman in the group
>they may both start having feelings for each other
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Well we'll never really know for sure due to the behind the scenes being very locked tight but i see moments like this as being due to the whole two timelines thing.
I plan on making a chart of the differences i've noticed between the two timelines once i get a new monitor and keyboard.
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>That image
Ah, i did not expect to get spoiled on Banban appearing in an episode.
I haven't watched them all yet but oh well, i should have watched it sooner like i wanted to and i can't be too upset due to the episode being out for a long time now.
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>>43160635
You are a fucking moron if you thought that was real for more than a fraction of a second. It's a fucking drawing of Bartleby they drew over you dumb retard fuck. Holy shit tripfags are braindead niggers.
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i like the hedgehog family eats out at the chinese buffet. i'm not sure if it's that hidden of a gem though.
remember to run inside during a mass shooting instead of staying outside where you're going to get killed.
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>"Sup Mindy baby you look almost as excited as a black man does when a KFC restaurant is built within walking distance of his house"
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>>43160972
I both rebuke and refute you and your vile words.
You say that as if featuring Banban in an episode is impossible for a Tamers video.
I warn you now to repent for your unjust wrath and blinding bigotry because this behavior is unnatural and unhealthy.
If you don't fix yourself then this behavior of yours will be your downfall if not even the end of you if you were to say such things to someone dangerous.
Heed my warning, repent before it is too late.
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https://www.tamersarchive.com/videos/sonic-underground-the-movie-docto r-robotnik-has-had-enough?theme=dar k
Watch this first and you tell me.
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>>43161747
Do you think Chrysalis would be a fujo? I don't see it.
She's open to share Shiny with Cadance as long as she's included I guess but I don't think she's mentioned anything about Shiny's relationship with Blueblood.
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We are moving on with the presentation. Thanks.
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>i am getting a new one soon i promise i will provide my full in depth feelings about Tamers and other stuff you mentioned tomorrow or the day after.
I'm sorry but plans have changed.
I won't be able to get a new monitor and keyboard until tomorrow.
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>>43159187
Tamers explained that one pretty much the same day though, he revealed Twilight's autism which did track with a another moment where she says as much about being trained to turn off her emotions, it was never that she didn't like her there just she flat out, like with how she treats her friends, turned off all emotion and empathy toward them all. which was rendered proven in the proceeding episode where ya know she doesn't say anything about it but has a photo of marriage photoshop of her and trixie
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>They can be any color you want or you could always go the EQG route.
It takes all colors to make a rainbow! Except black. There's no black in a rainbow.
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I agree there was still an attempt to keep a single continuity especially during first season. But if I were to take Tamers own word with how much he seems to talk on the chat I think it'll become way too convoluted so I'm just taking the episodes at face value. If we take that episode as part of the mare's continuity, Twilight shutting down her emotions doesn't explain Trixie coming for Twilight's help in DoTS. I don't think Trixie would have done that if that was the last interaction they had (Or maybe so? But I don't think that's the most important thing here).
We're just trying to guess where each storyline belongs. I think we can be discussing here all day about if a character should have done something or not. But I just want to make it simpler. An episode like Hot Pot is crucial to stallion's timeline. Trixie's appearance is only circumstancial. And even if I put it on "neutral" Trixie's appearance isn't substantial enough to be relevant for the mare's plotline. Even less if it does not amount to anything other than just being a reminder she and Twilight have a thing going on just like the wedding photo on Pinkie Pie's Sleepover episode (Which is a neutral episode because we can see PinkieDash being developed on both timelines/ also Scootaloo and Sweety Belle eyeswap).
Gotta remind also this is still a "theory". While I don't believe Tamers planned for this split to happen organically, it was simply the result of different creative visions on both sides. I believe there is still a way to establish a map where we can see how each episode best fits into the continuity. Or maybe one day they'll suddenly make an episode that completely denies it but so far that hasn't happened. So fuck it we ball.
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Trixie has nobody else in DoTS, she has no family as is known, no home(Twilight's friends destroyed her wagon) and among all ponies she personally knows Twilight was not only the only alicorn but the only smart person with possible knowledge on the princesses one of which was the very reason she needed help in the first place so realistically Twilight was the only option in her eyes. Shutting down her emotions or not Twilight was the only person willingly 'nice' to her in recent times(stopped her from killing herself and then threated her own friends over bullying her and taking her out on a picnic). ED's showed she was kinda always just stuck in Ponyville's area after losing her cart and DoTS starts with her camping out somewhere relatively close to town in the rain.
It's not like she doesn't show up when Twilight doesn't want her around either way, her first episode was her, a normal bitch, challenging the student of god who was also a higher being and fucking with her electricity and sending a pipe bomb to her mail over her onesided rivalry. After that there was of course Unicorn con where she's the one to try and uplift Twilight in the bathroom but both deny any actual feelings between the other with Twilight being confused over it and asking rarity on advice. She could have left Twilight alone that day. Trixie's appearance was as important as the photo in sleepover, a moment where no one says anything in the episode but the implication is clear
Hot pot is a neutral as the very next episode is a follow up all the same to Twilight's feelings being a background matter and that which she doesn't understand or acknowledge at the time. on that note: break up is more or less neutral as both sides have PinkieDash's relationship since it was a general part of Season 1 which, unlike 2-3, was actually planned out after the crossover. If the episode doesn't feature Trixie or the stallions, it's usually just natural since stuff like the CMC is all episodes related but also primarily stallion related first as the plot was about retarded alicorns which only Soarin was at the time. Same with buffet being neutral as it's pretty much only about the CMC rather than bringing up Trixie, AB's homelife or brother, or anything else, it's mostly just a filler episode never brought up again but all characters appear in both sides(Save for Scoots parents who just once again leave and were stated to go right back to the rain forest)
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As I said, I don't think we're going to get very far by trying to guess the characters' personal intentions here.
I take at face value if an episode belongs to a timeline mostly considering where their arcs lean into the continuity. That's also why we have troubles with the G5 episode. It features a Twixie mention but also most of the cameos from G5 come from stallion episodes after that. Only one on mare's during the credits of Shattered Harmony.
I could align it towards neutral as a stallion/neutral episode but I'll like to hear other's opinions if they care to read all this bs.
There's another thing that has been bugging me and I might as well ask rn.
>How do we feel where season 2 or 3 starts/ends?
Post S&B movie (Which Tamers said himself to consider it as the end of season one and also makes sense it is narratively) everything after gets messier. We have lots of neutral episodes mixed in and it feels like both stallion and mare sides have their "own season finales". So all those movie-sized episodes, which can serve to start or conclude a story arc, are scattered all over the place.
Movies post 1st Season:
>Shattered Harmony
(It only has 3 episodes between this one and the end of season 1. Not a possible season finale or starter)
>Death of Trixie Lulamoon
(Better contender than SH but still not exactly a definitive "closure". Although having a character killed only to revive it next season it's more akin to the tradition)
>Twilight fights a clown
(Not a season finale. It's basically the middle portion of the first ApplePackage arc)
>Infection
(Best contender to a season finale to stallion side. Multiple conclusions for lots of characters)
>Flawless Farts open a portal to another dimension
(Big special. If anything feels like a season begining. We get introduced to Mari and Flawless as part of the family)
>Outbreak
(Season beggining for stallion side after Infection. Kickstarts a new character and the new arc for Big Mac)
>Sweety Belle in love
(Other than that last sequence that feels like a finale I don't see it? The introduction at the beginning made it seem like the start of a season)
>Big Mac goes to college
(Big movie. Continuation of Outbreak. Middle portion of the second ApplePackage arc)
>Alicorn of Death
(Closure of the 2nd ApplePackage arc. Introduction of a new character/possible next antagonist)
>Abyss
(First closure for Glimmer and Mari's arc)
>Tournament of Power
(Big movie special... The last segment hinting the next characters migth be considered a finale/hints for "next season")
Infection seems the most logical Season 2 finale. But after that, I really have no idea where to draw the line between seasons.
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>G5
I feel this is a bit of a separate issue as a whole, more over a conflict of interest between either: You had the obvious Twixie portion of that initial episode but then you also have the Hitch & Scout portion and then the conflict begins there on weather either actually had an interest in G5 fully and what for. SH's ED has a seeming desire from one of them for it to be Zipp and Hitch while the original episode wanted it to be something like the next gay stallions but then S2 came around and he picked up background ponies apple split and care package and essentially got entirely sidetracked and just focused on them and dodging G5 almost entirely since they aren't really important to anything and more or less felt like an early one off example of how he can just do what he wants like fusing them into the main timeline rather than being in the far future with Twilight still being sunny's supposed idol despite, in that world, kinda being a bum by the time she meets sunny. G5 kinda ended up being the zatch bell crossover of the series where, due to how little anyone cares about G5, there was no reception and even for him using them is kinda pointless given the other just decided to introduce BG ponies and turn them into full originals along side the fact he knew people wanted flawless back before SH so planned to bring her back at some point since she was so popular.
The easiest idea he just lost interest with them since they can't further either sides story and, in the case of the mare episodes, doesn't like directly retreading his yuri that much and instead prefers to have Twixie & Shining's three way as his side's focus before he made Mari and added Starlight as a 3rd relationship to follow. It may have just come down to neither knowing what to actually do with any of G5 as a whole
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>>43163286
Tamers likes to officially call non human characters black, such as Flora from SU, Apple Bottom, Chrysalis and 13420 from MLP, Picalo from DBZ and Cosmo from DW. & Knuckles.
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Don't be racist about this, Tamers is very anti racism, he only makes non humans black coded with the majority of non human characters in his shows being white and it's the white characters who are portrayed as being worse people, especially compared to the black characters.
Here's a small list of the non human white characters from Tamers shows.
The Hedgehog family, the Latour family (Except Flora who's adopted.), Sleet, Dingo and Bartleby from SU.
Celestia, Twilight and her family, the Apple family (Except Apple Bottom and his parents.), Care Package, pretty much every pony who's literally white from MLP.
Pretty much every single character from DW except Cosmo until stated otherwise.
There's also everyone at the Tournament of Power BBQ except for Flora and Picalo as stated by Vegeta.
There has also been a lot of jokes at the expense of white people too, as much if not more than black jokes, especially in recent years.
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Glad I did it.
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Im thinking its this >>43164213
Scoot and Sweeb B plot
Meaning this movie might be an 40-60 minutes at least
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>>43164201
This makes me think; does Tamers keep automatic offsite backups (like a onedrive or something)? Because there's going to be a technical problem at some point and it would be hellish if he lost a bunch of work to it.
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>My post replying to this got deleted for being off topic because i told the other guy that racism isn't of God
OK then, good to know that the jannies here are racists.
Anyway i will repeat my reply to this here.
That diary is going to get Flawless to become a Christian and overcome her dark side through the power of Jesus.
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>>43165258
That's an interesting question. I don't think so?
Sure we had edgy stuff but truly grimdark I doubt it.
Trixie killing her dad was brutal but it wasn't as different as Care Package killing Apple Split parents in tone. Feels like your usual edgy stuff. Oddly enough I think Clean Sweep getting raped by Prof Kirin might be the most "take this shit seriously" moment. Even that one gets to break the tone with Big Mac saying "Dogman wouldn't want you to do this" when CS is about to commit suicide.
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>>43166144
I was looking for the comment too and accidentally clicked on the channel. I forgot he had that channel stored for a long ass time before the rebrand.
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>>43161747
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>>43167571
Blass this dude for making Chrissy content that tamers wont
https://youtu.be/E8IfGDIh4og?si=xIxHYYlcuXZjsZ1F
>I am not hungry, who do you take me for, a starving dollar store peasant?
>Well in that case...
If this was written by tamers, he would have said "Well you are black..."
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>I will probably miss the movie tonight
I swear if it's actually a 60 minutes one, I will be pissed to miss the live chat
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>>43168108
I'm ruining my sleep schedule by staying up so I don't miss this premiere...
Anything you guys would like to see on this episode?
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Same here.
I got my snack of La Cocina tortilla chips and Cineplex jalapeno cheese dip with fruit punch POWERADE with 50% more electrolytes ready to go.
I even know exactly what i am going to tell Tamers, both in live chat and in the comments.
It's at 7:30 EDT right?
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I hope you enjoy the show regardless.
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More wholesome and comfy kino alongside humor to make me laugh.
I know it's a long shot but i would also like to see Shining Armour and Tirek make an appearance, two of my top 3 favorite characters alongside Celestia.
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Well he's a jester not a clown so hopefully that technicality can allow you to like both at once.
>>43168237
As said here >>43168144
>La Cocina tortilla chips and Cineplex jalapeno cheese dip with fruit punch POWERADE with 50% more electrolytes
It's gonna be a fun time.
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Waiting on the edge of my seat for this entire sloppa to get remade
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random movie predictions
>80 minutes
>it's gonna be two episodes poorly stitched together like "The Abyss"
>a tamers stallion reference (why trixie and flawless didn't go to twilight funeral)
>star catcher it's gonna be 100% unironically a tranny
>polygamy ending
>twilight and trixe are going to be half reincarnation
>scootaloo and sweetie belle are going to be plot relevant
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i'm betting on Sky Wishes and Starcatcher becoming their own ponies and they end up with a safe boring happily ever after ending. Also Trixiebelle will either join them or team up with evil Flawless kind of like how Arinos and Friendship became a duo because the Tamers brothers like taking shit from each other. Maybe another pony becomes an alicorn too.
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Tamers put a trigger warning in the description.
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>1 hour and ten minutes
kino time
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>>43168237
OK update.
I now have a pack of Celebration butter cookies with milk chocolate to go with the rest of my snacks.
But they have put less cookies in a pack but the price is higher.
They're charging more for less like with what happened with the Nerds gummy clusters.
I am so disappointed in the food industry right now.
They also got the cookies in this plastic packaging instead of the box so that's more charm that has been taken away.
Oh well, i'll still enjoy both my snacks and the show!
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>>43169033
Consider Bauducco.
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>>43169038
Don't worry, i already did.
>>43169040
Nice!
>>43169048
I'm not sure if they're here in Canada but i will be sure to try them if i find them.
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>>43169059
He's not done with Winx Club bois!
God has answered my desires!
Thanks God!
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Good luck.
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Oof, bad luck.
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>>43169092
I guess they're more of a Canadian thing as they're all over the place here.
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Thanks!
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Two of my top 3 favorite characters! Lets go Tirek chads! Lets go Shining Armour bros!
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woo
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>>43169141
>trans flag horse hair's horse
>New jester OC
>Coomer bait drama opening
Red flags, but pinkie is based so still hopeful
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Fractured mogged again, say it isn't so
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>>43169033
OK update, turns out there isn't less cookies, the new packaging gave the illusion of less cookies.
But still, the increase in price is awful and although i am not as disappointed as i was before i am still disappointed.
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And i still want to give Bauducco a try.
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>>43169198
Welp, >>43168390 was right.
>it's gonna be two episodes poorly stitched together like "The Abyss"
Oh well, it's still a good time, good episode.
So far a solid 8/10.
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>>43169268
The pacing was really messy and some gags dragged on far too long. Sorry to say this didn't sold me on the new characters at all.
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That one reminded me of the Flora and Sonia future sequence.
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>>43169268
Why does mare keep adding new fakeout antagonists only for them to get mogged instantly?
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>>43150391
SEXO
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I was more invested in the Scoots and Sweebs plotline honestly. Would've preferred the movie be all about them. idk why there's just something about those two that I really enjoy ever since the hometown buffet video
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i got hard here
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I'll protect you edition or...
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>>43169319
Cozy Glow got fucking busted edition
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>>43169319
A special feeling edition
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>>43169319
Not smelling edition
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I like that Rarity got back at Sweetie Belle for her Sister with that April Fools joke even if she died for it. She went out like a boss.
And its interesting that Rainbow Dash has a poop on face/mouth fetish exactly like Rarity.
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>>43169268
>SweetiebellXScootaloo shippers get baited twice
Amazing.
By the way, the episode was a solid 8.5/10.
The humor was great, the music was good, the character moments did well, really my only complaint is that it is two episodes spliced together and the flashbacks went on for way too long. But all in all i had a great time.
I am excited for nest episode because it's pretty much confirmed to be another mare episode as it's been confirmed here >>43169137 that Tirek will be in the next episode and mare is the one who uses Tirek.
Can't wait to see my favorite character again!
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>>43169281
his income depends on patreon and if someone snitched on him for making underage romance fiction they would send the pinkertons to his house to kill him and also close his paypal.
you can thank that one australian anti porn advocacy group for that one.
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Lyra in her habitat
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>>43169373
Both Gojo and Fluttershy have the power to move the entire planet.
Gojo vs Fluttershy when?
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>you can thank that one australian anti porn advocacy group for that one.
Based?
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>>43169403
You weren't being specific though, that could have meant anything from Tamers' perspective so who knows if that's what he had in mind.
I don't even know what you're referring to due to how vague this is but i assume it's the midget orphans thing.
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Clownwife Edition?
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Slut Shaming Edition.
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Very sexy rarity btw
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>>43169400
They're All Midgets Edition.
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>>43169400
It Was Only A Nightmare Edition.
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I updated the episode Tier list maker.
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>>43169400
April Fools! Edition.
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I mean... Even if the agegaps were problematic and needed to be changed I don't get why he had to make them so old. It kinda defeats the purpose of them being in an orphanage. Mid/early 20's and 30's would have been just fine. Even if you want mommy Starcatcher 40 years old still works as long as the two kids are over 18.
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So many edition suggestions... And good ones. Dang.
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I like the Midget Party myself.
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>>43169520
Here this should help.
https://wheelofnames.com/
And besides, we have enough here to last until the next episode so i'm sure all of them will be used eventually.
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Bunnysuit edition
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it could have been a perfect episode. 10/10 no questions. it is densely populated with jokes, insane plot twists, pop culture references, random cameos, and seems to fit every major character without losing pace at all. at one point the episode becomes such a nonstop awesome train; jokes are landing one by one, and the plot is unraveling and getting progressively more ridiculous. we jump from a synthwave clown battle, to an angry couple domestically discussing bad thong choice, to Fluttershy being about to destroy the world with her farts - and it all makes perfect sense in its own right
but then the orphanage scene happens. no, I don't care about Tamers backed down on pedo joke. no I just literally cannot stand those three all together. they are out of place, they are whining, they have the personality of bricks, and most importantly, they are all boring. their story goes on forever and is not catching at all. it is shoved down the viewer's throat just for the sake of it. why are all three of them even featured? they do not play any major part in the episode; they contribute nothing. cut them all from the story and let Sweetie Belle talk with Scootaloo on her own. that's it, episode solved. why do we need that major 20-minute stop-break about these OCs? (I don't give a shit about them being from the previous generation). you know that the pacing has trouble when the viewer catches himself being bored. the whole episode is like watching the best Three Stooges show ever, which is suddenly interrupted by Satantango for 20 minutes. it leaves a horrible aftertaste. I want a Tarantino-edit of this episode, just cut that orphanage arc from the episode (and retroactively from The Tournament of Power) and you will have the best MLP episode. it seems Tamers is struggling with falling into the same trope - having a funny episode which then, for no reason, devolves into some angsty drama; Dandy's Pool Day had the same issue
regardless, just skip the part in the middle and you will have a great episode. highlights are: 1) the PMV at the start; it is always great to see Tamers doing what he loves the most. 2) Starlight and Mari being that old bickering couple; love that we are still on course with making them "normal". 3) Chrysalis saying "what a woman". 4) Dashie running over AJ... on the tractor... in a penthouse. 5) that whole interaction between SB and SC in the food court; that is honestly some of the best writing Tamers done. 6) FS is about to destroy the world and Sparkle has to go through three transformations to stop her. 7) the Gojo cameo; we need more random cameos. bring the fellas from Cars next time. 8) and of course, the fakeout dream sequence, as others mentioned
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They didn't even directly interact kek.
>>43169541
This.
And Rainbow2dash pointing out how Scootaloo was being a bully was based.
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Maybe it's just too soon to say goodbye...
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People said I was crazy when I mentioned the possibility of Chrysalis being bisexual. Who's crazy NOW!?
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>>43169573
Trixie's face here reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UjG5pEDFI8
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Well, this has been confirmed since DOTS.
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Thought I wouldn't like it, but it was great. The trixiebell stuff was better than I thought it'd be.