>>129147434
Past discussions:

>>128882422 (Dead)
>help a Ruins fan get into metal

>>128882507 (Dead)
>anon shares late 70's post-punk heavily wrought with art music influence

>>128788157 (Dead)
>thread before the last thread, with a lot of conversation about depressive black metal and brutal death metal

Cool, thanks. Last thread was a long one, so I wanted to have a thread recap and a chart of albums posted ready before making a new thread.

Previously...
>>129101226
>What is your album of the year 2025?
>>129102532
>Who was putting out dissonant, discordant, proggy extreme rock before Voivod? (and Voivod discussion)
>>129124454
>anon requests hardcore-influenced death metal
>>129133770
>Is Dio - Angry Machines experimental?
>>129134903
>the ONE good King Crimson album, according to anon
>>129139001
>musical jumpscares
...and more, such as mathcore, brutal death metal, The Angelic Process, Kaevum and possible post-metal influence on Kultur, and Sigh.

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>>129147837
Chart's done

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Blasting Alexisonfire right now.

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>>129147434
What'd you think of his new album?

>>129148629
Dude who gives a fuck about KPN in current year?

>>129148632
I do

>>129148629

Didn't know they relased a new album, thanks anon

>>129148703
How the fuck releases an album at the end of December? Weird release desu.

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Finally listening to that other Thorns of the Carrion album

>>129148632
Quite a few people including me.
Even when Neige goes full trash he's usually still interesting.

>>129148632
Didnt he go to jail for punching a stranger from behind in a bar?

>>129149434
There was some news about him punching a person and anecdotally it was some antifa thing, but you can never tell what's going on if it's that as everyone will claim they're the winner.

>>129149503
From what I heard, the person he assaulted was totally random, nothing to do with antifa

>>129150259
Then there's every chance I'm thinking of something else or was just told lies by people with an interest in spreading that shit, dunno.

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>>129149055
It lays some of the goth shit on thick, but it's a good album. Very atmospheric.
Apparently it's a concept album. I just listened for the music first, but I'll read lyrics along it another time and see if what they add to it.

>>129148632
They went to shit post neige and even then they werent that good theres so much more better nsbm

>>129152815
>theres so much more better nsbm
lol

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>cinematic folk black metal

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Surprisingly there is some music here that makes sense.

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Neat blacknoise album that's not too noise to be metal.

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Many are his name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pceUM0eW1Ls

>>129156188
Really?
I've only listened to Ebu Gogo Gutting the Child and that honestly felt like an elaborate shitpost. I diddn't see what people could enjoy about it at all besides meme value.

>>129156188
>>129159587
Neoanderthals started making sense to me after I started getting into brutal prog and realized it has more in common with that genre than it does most death metal bands

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>>129159587
desu there was just a part of one of the later tracks that I was surprised I could follow for more than a few seconds. A lot of it is still fairly impenetrable, and I've listened to Master Butchers at least three times in total, and Ebu Gogo I think just once.
>>129159655
With its exclusive focus on bass and drums I can believe it. Ruins is similarly bass-oriented and confusing to metal or regular prog rock ears.

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>listening to post-hardcore with gutwrenching feels again

>>129152815
>theres so much more better nsbm
No there fucking isn't It's literally just Peste Noire and Kaevum

>>129153185
>>129163498
NTA but I assumed black metallers liked Seigneur Voland as well.

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Thoughts on Neptunian Maximalism? Recently listened to picrel and enjoyed it, it's strange without coming off as tryhard but it has no business being over 2 hours long; not that any album does

what bands inspired peste noire? or what's some bands with a similar sound? i like the way they use horns and accordion

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we love this here

>>129166766
Album has a couple of stinkers on it but evens out with the rest. Songe viking and Turbofascisme are top tier KPN tracks.
Ultimate normalfag filter too

>>129166749
Famine just incorporates Gallic folk music into the mix. Maybe Dernière Volonté is one of his major influences?

>>129166766
>>129166869


the first half of this is amazing

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takatakatakatakatakatakataka

>>129166766
I don't really get the electronic side, and it's not really got enough good tracks to justify its existence, but it's still not bad.
The first half isn't his best overall material but does have some of his best songs like >>129166869 said.
Songe Viking might be one of his simpler songs, but it's fucking good.

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on quite a brutal death kick

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>Kauan call themselves "cinematic post metal"
>at one point their tag was just "intelligent music for intelligent people" but I assume someone pointed out how ironically dumb that was
>albums used to incorporate weirder sounds, or at least have a thick unique atmosphere, or would at least blend in a bit more metal
>now every release is the most simplistic generic post-rock imaginable
Life is pain.

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>>129169126
Which are their post-metal albums? I just listened to Sorni Nai because I downloaded it once and forgot until now, and this is too post- for me.

>>129169492
Oh right, Sorni Nai is their best to me lol
I'd say everything Pirut onwards is quite similar in formula. You won't find anything MORE metal than Sorni Nai. They were always more post-rock than metal.
Lumikuuro may be more metal than I remember as it's been a while. I would say their first two, which is Lumikuuro and Tietäjän laulu are when they were less artsy and more metal, but Sorni Nai is probably their "heaviest" from memory. Most albums don't have the same moments with harsh vocals and distorted guitar.

>>129169556
>Lumikuuro
RYM calls it doom metal and tags folk/post-rock/other metal influences, that will probably be more my speed.

>>129172751
I think the first two albums will have more of that for you, then he started wanting to go more into more typical post-rock or almost like "soundtrack" music at times. I like them all but they're very samey and those first 2 albums are the standouts.

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>>129172966
A few tracks in, and this is much closer to what I imagined.

My favorite for this kind of thing is Mizmor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TH57EBpDDg

Now there's a term specifically for what OP is talking about: "dissonant black metal" or "dissonant death metal." It can refer to newer stuff like Ulcerate, Imperial Triumphant, and Portal, but it's also being applied to bands that have been around for a while, like Deathspell Omega, Blut Aus Nord, and Akhlys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9cDvwwbj6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l31Xj44vJEA

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I knew it wouldn't be metal, but man this is hard to love so far.

>>129175897
>Mizmor
I only really like Yodh for his work. Every album after seems to wallow way too much in being slow and repetitive and while atmospheric it often starts to get a bit boring. The 2025 album in particular was a total snoozefest for me.

any good /xxr/ piracy blogs?

>>129178919
Do you mean like public/private trackers?

>>129178962
looking for something more like Exystence or similar curated blog sites with direct downloads. I get the feeling that the format makes it easier to find obscure and new things that you wouldn't usually seek out or even find on the more spammy websites that just upload whatever they can get their hands on.
15 years ago blogspot was the place to be for that kind of thing, but a lot of the high quality blogs just kinda died on their ass, with the zippy death and what not.

>>129178989
I use getmetal.club a fair bit, although its not a blog and has lots of shit that definitely isnt metal, or even mainstream trash, but it's at least a steady stream of "random albums someone decided to upload" and that will often include prog stuff.

>>129178989
>15 years ago blogspot was the place to be for that kind of thing, but a lot of the high quality blogs just kinda died on their ass, with the zippy death and what not.
Agreed. The only blogs that stuck around that I know/use are metal related. Like mortuusinsomnis06.
This is mostly just metal though, and not very experimental all the time, but he does have a lot of uploads so there will be some in there.

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Funnily enough I slag off Mortuus for "not much prog", scroll a bit, and see a link for an album claiming to be "Post-Black/Avant-garde Metal".
Time so see how it is I guess.

>>129178919
>>129178989
Try Terminal Escape (blogspot), it's one of the longest running noise rock blogs that's still around. Back in the day my favorite was [shiny grey monotone] but as I see the last post was in 2022 and apparently it's moved to Facebook since.

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So did anyone actually like this?

>>129179021
>>129179028
>>129179938
Cheers, I'll check them out. I can recommend nodata.tv for electronic releases and exystence.net for world/jazz/folk/avant-garde stuff. The latter has some great writeups for each upload.

Oh, and also in-the-fog.ru if you can tolerate navigating a side in cyrillic. That site has some very obscure metal uploads.

>>129182511
Seconding that one, always comes up handy when I'm googling random shite I can't find anywhere else.
The site can be translated, but like a few ruski sites they usually make the "download" option really obvious even if you can't read it.

I like The Residents

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsGRasyHEEg

I didn't ask the question but thanks for the site recs everyone, may come in handy when soulseek is lacking.

>>129186547
There's a few I check from time to time when looking for albums but they either used zippyshare or some have been bastards and locked their files behind "you need to be premium".
Ironically enough I use 88nsm to get shit like the new Peste Noires and the fucker has ironically paywalled it - or the one that wasn't only contained one track and the rest were missing.

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Glad I found this. Discordant technical death metal that balances brutality and alienness well.
One guy plays both a saxophone and clarinet of all things, though neither are used very much, and not in the obnoxious way some gimmick acts do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWV1_E3xJpw

>>129188345
Is there a dl for that somewhere, as a pleb who doesn't use slsk?

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>>129188295
Shit sucks, though I somewhat get that site owners need to keep servers on, and maybe locking uploads keeps moles out. But I think methods of filesharing that have the free or sharing parts inhibited aren't going to last very long.
>>129188394
Trying to find something. Found a higher res image of the cover (minus logo) which is sick.

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>>129188479
>Trying to find something. Found a higher res image of the cover (minus logo) which is sick.
Don't put in too much effort mate, I did a cursory glance and found nothing, so I was just checking if you had one to hand. No need to do my work for me if you don't have it.

Interestingly that bandcamp also recommended this Diskord release which I remember being decent for similar reasons of being largely coherent despite the genre. It doens't go crazy with sax etc, but if I remember rightly it really fucking loves throwing in cowbells. Almost to the point of actually overusing it and being silly.

>>129188524
an old upload of it to VK still works (for me)
https://vk.com/doc157891739_483675819

>>129188572
Legend, cheers man.

>>129188572
This was cool but I need a few more listens.
The closer stuck with me so I wanna go back just for that.

>>129190968
I had to blast it twice myself. The album is slightly short, but the songs are winding and just a bit long.

>>129191776
Fair enough. I do wanna spin it again but I've been distracted by downloading a bunch of random shit I've been meaning to get around to.

>>129192039
>distracted by downloading a bunch of random shit I've been meaning to get around to.
That's common for me too. Either downloading and not listening for a while, or bookmarking and not downloading.

>>129148629
is it mostly indie rock like the last 2 eps and preceding album?

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https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mxyHJjERZ_Tek3yyCR7lnAZonFTQaQf1s
Instrumental and mostly acoustic prog/experimental rock (some sites also call it math rock or post-rock) with hammered dulcimer, accordion, cello, and timpani, in addition to guitars and bass.
Two of the band members (Hauppa, Becker) would each later form or join metal bands Ara, Acanthrophis, Northless, and Deorbit.

>>129148621
should be blasting the selftitled

>>129194830
No, it's black metal. I wasn't a fan of those 2 ep's either.

>>129195200
I still liked them, but I wouldn't call it metal

>>129148629
Is there a way to listen if i dont currently have access to a PC for like soulseek

>>129195325
There is a Soulseek client for Android.

Sad news:
>>129196614

>>129196663
well shit
blasting Prakt right now

>>129196663
Eh they ended on a high for me.
I'm more worried what levels of schiozposting this will cause.

>>129197107
>they ended on a high
True, Ultra is their best imo. It's still sad and it would've been nice to get one more album from them.

>>129197175
I agree although I wasn't hugely enamoured with Kaevum like same are. I just found them "decent" or "great" at times.
Given Nordvrede was just Kaevum-lite I assume that anything those members of the band do after this will still have similar vibes.
Really they need to get Nordmann on a schizo DSBM album.

huh googled nordmann's name to make sure I got the right one, according to plebbit:
>Ukjent Soldat I aka Nordmann was engaged to a woman who left him for a Jewish man which is what started his whole “pride” in the first place.
Quite amusing if so.

>>129197239
I think it's quite strange if it's true and the only reason he is pro-Europe.

>>129197278
Presumably not the only reason but may have kicked it off. It is leddit so I'd assume it's just slander, just gave me a chuckle.

the new Serpent Column SUCKS

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Bumping with some experimental black metal

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>>129200423
what a coincidence me too

>>129197572
Better not shit on it or he'll make a long-winded rant about how music listeners suck and then release more garbage with AI album covers.

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>>129201314
He already did I think. I got a bandcamp notification saying "new message from serpent column: to address some of the criticism..." and then I went to look at it like 20 minutes later and the message was gone without a trace. Just a coincidence I'm sure. Everytime I've checked the message since there's been no message to see, almost like it was deleted out of shame or something.

At this point I'm almost certain he lurks /mu/ as all of his spergouts seem to coincide with people here shitting on his latest output. Minutes later comes the essaypost where he loses it over fucking nothing.
I'll take AI covers if the music on it isn't also mediocre as fuck. And yknow, at least make the AI image of pylons over a river (a very difficult thing to get a picture of I'm sure) not have the pylon wires fucking phase in and out of existence.

>>129201338
I like the pole that either has a leg floating in the air or is planted behind those bushes way in the background.

>>129202415
You don't understand, he carefully selected this image to PERFECTLY match the themes he was going for and was very particular into the outcome. He put in SO MUCH EFFORT for this AI slo- artwork. You just don't get it and we're all cunts for not accepting his vision and we should stop being so mean >:(

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Some more kinda-brutal dissonant DM, but nothing like Shavasana. An EP between the Pyrrhon vocalist and Baring Teeth guitarist.

gud Russian screamo

https://smiletothewind.bandcamp.com/album/--2

>>129203658
I'm listening to this again and was about to say it was a bit light on riffs (the third track is) but NOPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgpZjIoFF_A

>>129203719
I was the "--2" and thought this was some sequel to -1, who I think are also russian screamo.

>>129205853
>was
saw*
I only got out of bed 15 minutes ago I'm sorry

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>you know what this screamo needs?
>bit of post-rock and post-hardcore would be good
>actually we need about 60% of the album to be people quietly talking in swedish, that's the good shit

>>129206128
true dat

Bunch of dogshit music general

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NSV my beloved

>>129210283
My beloved that just makes me sad about how it's going now.

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I know GtT's thing is the harsher noise bits, but fuck I love when this gets more melodic.

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>>129211969
luv me a bit of Ὁπλίτης
basically like Serpent Column but not shitting the bed

>>129211969
>Themes: Chinese social issues, Resistance
So are the Greek lyrics and themes for obfuscation? Smart if so.

>>129212020
His name and DoB are on MA.
I'd be surprised if he was trying to avoid issues with the ol' Pooh that he'd allow that shit to leak so brazenly.

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Decent DM album with doom elements. Just something that caught my attention in a blasting post. Not much information about the duo, was hoping to find other bands they contributed to.

>>129195200
Thought you lied and that it was going to be more wigger garbage when I heard the intro

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>have a drummer in the band
>make an industrial death metal EP with programmed drums anyway
>split up
Fun EP though. They teased an upcoming full-length in the booklet, which makes me wonder what songs they were working on before parting to do different things.

>>129216437
To be honest if you're going to use programmed drums, ideally it would be done by a drummer.
Too often I hear programmed drums where even if they don't sound too fake you can tell it's just someone who has no idea how to compose good drums.

Is there anything between thall and death metal.?

>>129218164
Deathrash

>>129218022
This is part of the reason I want a drummer. I can't write drums, and I know it.

>>129218263
I'm a drummer but not a very good one :^)

>>129218317
I want a really good one for my purposes, but drummers are hard to find in general. So I'm guessing you don't have a hard time finding bands regardless.

>>129218233
No, thall. Not thrash.

>>129218380
I can play my chemical romance, what more do you need

>>129219801
I wouldn't know. I don't have that point of reference.

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Blasting. How are Bell Witch's albums btw?

>>129221555
>How are Bell Witch's albums btw?
Depends what you like. I like most of their releases but I personally think Longing is their best album but the production lets it down a bit. Four Phantoms is close to the same songwriting with way heavier and chunkier production.
Everything after tends to be a lot more dull in my opinion, very drawn out and trying to paint a scene that doesn't really work for me. People liked Mirror Reaper, but my personal take was "it gets really good at the 50 minute mark" which isnt much of a compliment for a one track album that's 80 minutes long. The Stygian Bow collabs at least introduce new sounds but don't really go anywhere with it for me and remain kinda dull.

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neat

bump

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>>129226507
This shit is always dead in EU hours, even more than usual, so good luck.

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>Dino from Dystopia on drums
>it's funeral doom
huh

my turn to listen to bell witch now

>>129178919
https://oldschoolmetalmusicz.blogspot
This one is an absolute goldmine. Links are all still active too. Lots of rare shit, all the classics.
For weird ambient and electronic shit :
https://newothermusic.blogspot.com/

>>129231328
Forgot the .com sorry

>>129227156
Do you think someone has tried funeral crust yet?

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REE-PAH

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Anyone got a chart of punk essentials? I've dabbled w/ punk a lot esp. local stuff but I've never really checked out the big artists like Misfits or Black Flag. Listening to picrel for the first time right now and I feel like it would sound better w/ better production but that's prob the point isn't it.

>>129211187
I really liked the new album. Big step up from their previous several releases.

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>>129235355
Here's a chart from the /mu/ wiki
https://4chanmusic.miraheze.org/wiki/Essential_Charts#Genres
>Listening to picrel for the first time right now and I feel like it would sound better w/ better production but that's prob the point isn't it.
Pretty much, but Out of Step sounds better and has longer songs as well.

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This is a cool Sacramentum soundalike (released between Finis Malorum and FAftS), but the eleven MA users who called this similar to Niden Div. 187 need their heads checked.

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>>129235436
>no D.O.A. or Dayglo Abortions

>>129235514
All MA users need their head checked.

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>>129147434
Good bands like picrel that aren't Voivod, they're my favorite band since high school and I'm looking for bands that are in that Rorschach/Voivod/Watchtower vibe. Someone posted about them last thread and I didn't catch it in time.

>>129236466
The guitarist fron Rorschach went on to be in Deadguy. It's not really what you appear to be looking for, but you might still dig it.

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>Death Metal/Hardcore
Really trying to avoid the cursed "deathcore" tag eh lads

>>129236495
I know Deadguy already..not what I'm looking for. I want screeching vocals, angular guitar, speed.

>>129235436
No TSOL, Articles Of Faith, Void, Meatmen, Die Kreuzen, Siege, Necros, etc?

>>129236816
Make your own chart

>>129236816
It's probably just meant to be an entrylevel way into the genre, with just some easy essentials rather than diving into every good band, at least that's how I assume those /mu/ charts go. Hence having Black Flag 3 times.
Whenever I make a chart I just try to do one album per artist but I dunno if that's always smart.

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>>129236816
>Articles Of Faith
I was going to mention them after posting the chart, as I fucking love AoF, but anon wanted recs for big name bands he missed, and I don't have the punk/hxc native's experience to know if Articles were big at the time or had just gathered a high status long after the fact due to the internet. (For example, it would be ridiculous to call Timeghoul a big-name band for their time.)
>Siege
Also cool, I would have put the Drop Dead compilation on the chart if it were me. Though I see how Siege were less hardcore punk in conventional terms and more an intense thrashcore or proto-grindcore band.

>>129237990
Yeah it looks like it's intended for newbies, and that's fine.
>Hence having Black Flag 3 times.
>Whenever I make a chart I just try to do one album per artist but I dunno if that's always smart.
I usually do that, but some bands change considerably, like Black Flag did between Damaged and My War, so I get why the chart maker put both.

>>129236539
I mean who wants to be associated with the majority of dreckcore? I feel the recent beatdeath bands are both more DM and more HC than the 2000s style of deathcore, if that's possible, and especially the techy deathcore made now.

>>129211969
breddy gud. has some Devin Townsend energy in some of the tracks.

>>129240006
Their change in sound from hardcore punk to atmospheric heartland rock was interesting to say the least, considering Bondi's love for Springsteen. Not a Bruce Springsteen fan though.

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>>129240808
>atmospheric heartland rock
Funny way of putting it, but it fits. In This Life is not bad, but I wish I liked it as much as I want to. It tends to have cool ideas in so-so songs.

>>129166164
I wish they had more than four songs.

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>>129235436
The Varukers are so much better than Discharge

>>129235371
I didn't really agree. It felt like more of the same. Everything since the s/t, except the Tome EPs, I listen to a few times and proceed to remember absolutely fucking nothing from it.
What do you think they did better? To my ears they've been on autopilot and basically pushed out the same material 3 or 4 times now.

>>129242135
Idk shit was more groovy and had actual riffs.

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Leftöver Crack, yeah that's the real schtuff.

>>129241865
Bold claim, I'll have to check it in a bit.

>>129241865
They're faster than Discharge but that's about it.

>>129242640
Fair enough, I didn't hear it. All their riffs blend together for me into a pattern of "chugga chugga > wall of noise where it sounds like they just slide up/down the frets non stop"