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how do I get into death metal and is it different from Black metal?
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>>129288329
Just listen to the more pallettable stuff and the most mainstream bands then go from there.
>different
Yeah. Death metal is cookie monster screaming at the mic.
Black metal is some banshee with crooning about something sad that happened into the mic .
Death is the music a monster truck would write.
Black is the music you would write if your grandma got run over by a monster truck
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>>129288329
This shit is so performative. It's no different than buying a cheap Spiderman costume on aliexpress and posting online about how you're so into wallclimbing and webslinging and making your whole identity this fucking manufactured pre-designed character
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>>129288329
Its the same but with less style and less edge.
dont, death metal is for poseurs. just get into black metal, /mu/ knows more about black metal anyway.
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>>129288380
Girl I currently have a crush on says she fantasizes about being a vampire.
Should I make a move or run?
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>>129288329
Yes. Early Black Metal musicians thought Death Metal was too smooth and commercial. They wanted to make music that only the most devoted fans would stick with. Black Metal is an acquired taste while Death Metal is more immediately palatable. For Death Metal, I'd recommend starting at the source with, well, Death.
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>>129288329
start with deathrash
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https://www.deathmetal.org/article/a-tentative-list-to-get-into-death- metal/
Death metal is generally more lizard brained and labyrinthine than BM. I don't necessarily agree with some of the album choices, but the thought behind the sequencing is a good idea. If you are already into black metal, you could start with the DM bands that inspired a lot of the classic BM bands, as well as DM bands that have some similarities in attitude to BM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ftCJWnR0Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emSDcQ89Ne8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl0NY36CMeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq0rP0_yz74
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA7LSiz4qp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plxcKb_Mpjg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScoGir1SgqI
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I'd recommend that you have a solid understanding of most Metal music that predates Death Metal before you get into it.
The earliest recording that most people label as "Death Metal" that I know of is the 1984 Death By Metal album by Mantas, who would go on to form Death then some members Massacre.
Read on Wikipedia, Discogs, Encyclopedia Metallum, and sometimes Reddit to go chronologically from there. Occasionally you might find valuable info on Youtube through interviews and essays.
For the early material of both Death and Black Metal, I'd say there are more similarities than not, and most of the difference lies in visual aesthetics and surrounding cultures of both genres.
In my opinion, the Slayer albums "Hell Awaits" and "Reign In Blood" laid the groundwork for the vast majority of early a.k.a "OSDM" Death Metal music, and this era of Death Metal bears many similarities to them.
Some other early notable releases that you might want to check out are as follows:
Possessed - Seven Churches (1985)
Nasty Savage - Nasty Savage (1985)
Death - Scream Bloody Gore (1987)
Necrophagia - Season Of The Dead (1987)
I'd also recommend that you listen to much of what is labelled as "Extreme Metal" as well, as it was extremely influential to the aforementioned recordings. Venom, Celtic Frost, Hellhammer, Sarcafago, Sepultura (early), Discharge, and Repulsion for example. Many may disagree with my labeling of that list of bands as "Extreme Metal," though that is how I personally perceive it.
Fun fact: There is significant confusion surrounding the name of the genre "Death Metal." Some believe the name of the genre came from the band Death, who many also believe invented the genre. Others cite the Possessed song "Death Metal" off of Seven Churches as the originator, and some believe it was created by the 1984 comp by Noise Records titled "Death Metal."
Hope this is of aid, and that I'm not coming off as too much of a music snob LOL.
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>>129288329
I can only tell you about my experience with it as a person who went from hating it to really loving it. The answer is to just listen to a lot of acclaimed albums. Chances are you will absolutely hate most of them. Chances are you'll absolutely despise the vocals. But if you're anything like me, there will be something there that will continue to interest you. Something will click. Then you'll find yourself coming back to an album that you previously thought was the worst shit you've ever heard, and now you'll think it's one of the best albums you've ever heard. Go on RYM and just start listening to the albums listed as "best of all time". Just keep in mind that RYMtards have a particular taste, so while you'll find many of the most notable albums listed as recommended, they have a hate boner for some particular notable bands and their albums, like e.g. anything by Cannibal Corpse. To answer your second question, yes, death metal is different from black metal. Black metal had different phases and is very broad as a genre, but the typical sound tends to be lo-fi, the vocals are screechy, the guitar playing isn't overly virtuosic, but is still very fast and aggressive, utilizing e.g. tremolo picking higher on the guitar neck. The themes are usually about satanism, but also nature, paganism, or shit like lord of the rings. Death metal also is a wide genre. The playing tends to be chunkier. Also fast and aggressive, and a bit more virtuosic, although nothing crazy until you get to contemporary tech death. Stereotypical themes are more violent, demonic, and B horror movie. With tech death themes can get more philosophical or contemplative, but it depends on the band.
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Best album to get into DM
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There's quite a bit of crossover, but Death tends to be generally lower pitched, and more focused on horror of some kind - violence and gore, poorly performed reanimation, the Lovecraftian horror of being an insignificant part of a much larger, uncaring universe. There are many subgenres with a lot of diverse sounds - some very shreddy or progressive melodically or rhythmically, some very monotonously abusive (2 step, as fast as possible, fuck tonality, and go), some very focused on melody and hooks.
Black tends to be more screechy as far as vocals, guitar tone, and general production goes - not always the case. It tends more toward evil - Satanism from a Christian standpoint / anti-religion for antagonisms sake, psychological torture of the self or others, how evil the world is to the individual, how nature prefers the cold blooded people of the north, and Christian interlopers could never understand. There are subgenres and waves, but there's usually a more punk aesthetic to the production - shitty lo fi is more kvlt. Playing tightly is for poseurs. There's also a lot more of a cult (kvlt) of personality around it, where some people start taking shit and themselves way too seriously. Black works way better in ambient and drony ways than death.
As for getting into it, the band Death is a good starting point. Chuck and friends laid a lot of groundwork for a lot of different subgenres - melodeth, tech, etc.
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>>129288380
Start doing this
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>pic
posers
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posers you say?
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I don't know if Sarcofago just happened to find all the right buttons at the right time, or if they were actually way more influential than anyone really gives them credit for, but they're a serious touchstone for both Black and Death metal.
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Its like black metal but less punk influence. More guys in tank tops high fiving eachother. I like this album
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>>129288329
Do as >>129288383 said, there's no shame in listening to bands that people here would call unoriginal and derivative if you have no prior experience with the genre.
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>>129288329
feel like this is almost certainly bait post but whatever i feel like responding anyway
yes its obviously different. imo black metal is generally more atmospheric and has a 'muddier' sound (dont mean that in a bad way - always it varies anyway). death metal seems to be more focused on riffs & technicality, more "precise", less atmospheric. i dont know any technical shit about music at all this is just the feelings i get from listening to both.
as for getting into them, I would reccomend simply Death - especially the album Symbolic, its the best sounding demonstration of death metal I think, fursonally. I honestly haven't found a lot of death metal that isn't Death that sounds good to me - but Control Denied came close.
honestly if anyone has any death metal reccs for me based on me liking symbolic i'd love to hear them because im always trying to find more death metal i like but i never end up finding anything good.
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>>129299498
There's no shame in listening to anything that anyone on /mu/ shits on. If you like it, enjoy it. Everyone else around here are just people, and some prove time and time again that their ears, brain, and fingers aren't all connected properly.
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>>129288329
there is some overlap between the two, but in general
>black metal
high pitched tortured screams, tremolo picking, focus on atmosphere, typically lo-fi production, dark and melancholic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfBmYfnjLho
>death metal
low pitched growling, less focus on atmosphere, production can be hi-fi, a lot of bands focus on virtuosity and skills (technical death metal)
popular entry level example (on the proggy side): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTPuVK0OKds
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I recorded my album with a pair of busted sony headphones wired backward to a vinyl cutter armed with a dull pencil and a plastic dinner plate... Then I killed the producer for being Christian/swarthy/LGBBQ enough to let me do that.
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Imprecation and Infester first up, patrician as fuck
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Yeah I guess
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