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There is a lot of debate over the death of hair metal, but what about the death of grunge? For example, here's a sample timeline for hair metal's rise and fall:
>Birth: Late-60's/early-70's, alongside glam, hard rock, and other genres
>First big emergence into popular culture as a distinct category: 1977 (Kiss's 'Love Gun' becomes a top 5 album)
>Undeniable start of the peak: 1983 (Def Leppard's 'Pyromania' and 'Mötley Crüe's 'Shout at the Devil' become massive hits)
>Last big gasp/end of the peak: Spring of 1992 (Def Leppard's 'Adrenalize' tops the US album charts for 5 weeks in April/May)
>Undeniable marker of massive decline: Fall of 1993 (Guns N' Roses 'Spaghetti Incident' flops; former hair metal acts like Bon Jovi change their sounds to maintain commercial appeal)
What would this look like for grunge?
>Birth: Early/mid-80's with proto-grunge bands like The Melvins, Green River, etc.
>First big emergence into popular culture as a distinct category: 1989 (Soundgarden's 'Louder Than Love' and Nirvana's 'Bleach' become moderate hits)
>Undeniable start of the peak: Fall of 1991 (Nevermind, Badmotorfinger, Ten, etc.)
>Last big gasp/end of the peak: Spring of 1998 (Pearl Jam's 'Yield' becomes the #2 album in the US; the last 'traditional' grunge album to chart that high)
>Undeniable marker of massive decline: Fall of 1998 (former grunge-associated bands like Smashing Pumpkins Hole change their sounds away from grunge; 'traditional' grunge albums like Seven Mary Three's 'Orange Ave.' are commercial disappointments)
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It was too formulaic in a corporate way and people could tell. I was in the prime age group to be into grunge but I hated the shit out of it because it all just seemed so fake and insincere.
But I think when it failed, the music industry fell back on rock... excuse me, "alt rock"... because even though what was being pushed on the radio and MTV was just as corporate as grunge became, there was still at least more variety in the look and sound, so it was harder for people to get sick of it all at once like you could with grunge.
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>>129316599
>here's a sample timeline for hair metal's rise and fall:
>no mention of Van Halen and their formative role on the sunset strip
>no mention of Mother Love Bone- the absolute bridge between glam and grunge
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>>129323609
indeed and? they had been on the strip for yrs. Played their first show at Gazzari's in 1974 and eventually became the house band. They spawned a bunch of wannabes and inspired the whole scene thru their success. They all wanted to be Diamond Dave and/or EVH. Both Stephen pearcy (ratt) and Don Dokken said (in seperate interviews) that seeing Van Halen (on the SS before their first album) changed their focus from guitar to being a front man lol. EVH was too good and Dave was having too much fun. Van Halen a HUGE influence on all the LA bands that followed in the 80s.
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Seven Mary Three's Orange Ave is barely an album worthy of mention in a discussion like this. It's barely a post-grunge album and even less a grunge album. A better marker would be 2nd wave post-grunge having a commercial explosion with Creed's Human Clay in 1999