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Because the infrastructure is just so fucked around airports. Can't Uber in, have to get dropped off a mile away. Or pay $100/day to park there. Or $100 taxi ride there/ back. TSA bullshit lines dealing with super retarded rules, people taking 4 minutes to remove a belt and watch, people still bring their yeti water bottles full of water, full shampoo conditioner and body washes. And then you go to your Gate at the Terminal posted on your Boarding Pass 1.5 hours early, sit and wait, and realize No one is around you, So you go and check the screen, and find out your flight's been moved, and you have to go across the entire airport by shuttle, figure out the shuttle system, and barely make it to your flight with 5 minutes to spare because of more bullshit lines and retarded people stumbling around not knowing where to go or how to walk with a little carryon luggage. Fuck Dallas Fort Worth fuck Dallas Fort Worth, they always change their gates and terminals and it fucks up everything for everyone.

3 hours of airport stressful bullshit just for a 2 hour, or 2.5hr flight to either end of the country. Yeah and then more bullshit leaving the next airport and dealing with a car rental, lots of stories of bullshit there, "Here, enjoy this hoopty piece of shit car that smells like butthole"
And then hotels, which also smell like butt sex, yeah travel is all around pretty overrated

Planes are not the issue, nor the seats or food on a plane

>>2064687
You're describing what it's like for a retard to travel by air. Anyone with an IQ above 100 pays for TSA Precheck, which costs $12 a year and bypasses all the problems with airport security. I've never had to wait more than 2 minutes in a security line or had to take my belt or shoes off in the 10 years I've been paying for it. In fact I usually leave home so that I'll arrive at the airport 15 minutes before boarding at the earliest and I've never missed a flight. The other thing that for some reason 99% of people haven't figured out yet is that you can use an app to skip the customs line on international flights. It's been a thing at most airports since 2016 and every time I use it there's still basically zero people on the dedicated line for it and I get through customs in 20 seconds. The customs agents are also friendlier because they know they're not dealing with the unwashed masses on that line. The point of all of this is that the reason air travel sucks for the average person is because of problems entirely of their own making.

>>2064687
It sounds like you've flown exactly once, if at all

>>2064686
Ok this is coming from an airline pilot that would love to fly supersonic airliners, they are an economic black hole. Planes are already a fucking money pit, but airlines are pretty good at counting beans and widening the margin. Supersonic airliners would be subjected to greater aerodynamic stress, thermal stress, harder pressure cycles (due to higher altitudes) and more engine wear; each of these increases the cost and frequency of routine maintenance. The bigger issue is regulation; airport and routing restrictions would economically throttle a supersonic airliner, just as it did with Concorde. Boom just demonstrated a proof of concept, but they’ve got a lot of work and a bigger demonstrator to build before they will convince anyone of the viability. Takeoff and landing noise has yet to be improved too. The biggest reason is that the average customer is cheap. They would rather arrive at the destination an hour later and save $500 on the ticket, which means nobody is in a hurry to introduce a more expensive and less desirable product. Supersonic passenger travel is a novelty without the economy of scale, and that is where it will remain until someone invests an eye watering amount to make such a service prevalent.

>>2064686
Because pointlessly moving around more and more is stupid.
>/thread
>/board

People are too rich now you can fly private from New York or Paris and it takes the same as Concorde would have done once you factor in all the modern airport bureaucracy

>>2064700
Then shouldn't there be big demand for at least a private supersonic jet?

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>welcome to (airport with long enough runway to land on) airspace ultra-concorde XD, congratulations on your record-breaking flight
>we'll have you on the ground after six or seven times around the pattern

>>2064687
Cheap airfare and discount airlines letting every tom dick and mary fly was a bad idea. Like public internet and social media. I hope it all dies and we can look forward to progress, not this incessant focus on raping people for billions.

>>2064686
i havent read the thread but its pretty simple economics
if you fly 10% slower than sound you use literally half as much fuel as you would had you been flying 10% faster. fuel cost is about a third the cost of the whole flight so doubling that is quite significant
the catch is that as a percentage fuel would stay about as expensive. why? because the maintenance costs skyrocket. i dont have numbers (and these depend on the plane) but for concorde that was the killing blow. it hasnt gotten any better today either, plane maintenance has gotten more expensive because (((they))) can make it so

you also dont realistically save much time. say you have a 3 hour plane ride on something traveling slightly slower than sound. you spend 20 minutes getting to the airport, 10 minutes checking in and then an extra 30 minutes buffer. you then also spend 10 minutes on the other side getting your shit back and then another 20 getting to where you want to go in the other city. overall its 10+20+30+10+20 minutes, so an hour 30. add that to the normal plane and you get from point A to B in 4 and a half hours. if you use a plane twice the speed of sound you save an hour and a half in flight so your trip is only 3 hours
you save 90 minutes but spend a literal thousand dollars more doing it, no one wants to do that. oh but some people are worth a thousand an hour? you need enough of them to fill a plane a couple times a day for a dozen routes all flying commercially, not happening.

>>2064735
I could maybe see it working for overseas flights where you could cut it from 20 hours to 10, but you're still going to be counting on rich-as-fuck business people going between economic hubs and dropping $10k each way. They have to be rich enough to afford the ticket, but too poor to afford a private jet, and as you said there have to be enough of them to fill multiple flights every day.

>>2064686
>Most people would probably gladly pay 50% more for a plane ticket if it meant getting there twice as fast.

they absolutely would not lol

>>2064696
>Because pointlessly moving around more and more is stupid.
Tell that do the average SUV enjoyer Karen

>>2064703
There might be demand, but it does not meet or exceed the costs of fuel, maintenance, global agencies approval, and R&D. There are only a few thousand billionaires, and most of them will not bother spending 100 grand to save maybe 2 hours of flight time. Especially now that things like Zoom and VR exist.

>>2064686
Supersonic flight doesn't use 2x the fuel, it uses 4x. Concorde would have to fly 4 flights from nyc to london to match a 747's passenger capacity.

Also, maintenance cost is going to be 3 times higher at minimum, labor costs are going to be 2 to 3 times higher, it will need highly specialized technicians and pilots which means higher salaries which are already 15% of the costs a typical commercial jet. Maintenance intervals will be much shorter, which means less time in the air to make up for its cost. Airframe lifespan will almost certainly be much shorter due to supersonic stress, which again means less time in the air to make up for its costs. Insurance costs will be higher due to being unproven technology


All of this compounds and compounds and compounds across an aircraft's lifespan. Keep in mind, the original development cost of the Concorde was entirely written off by the French and British governments, and original ticket prices were sold at a massive loss.

>>2064758
Private jets should have never been legal to begin with

>>2064758
even then you dont understand just how much fuel that bastard ate
it has a cruising speed of 2000kmph or so right? but a max range of only 7000km, you can only fly 4 hours per tank
and its not like you can just add more fuel. a plane typically has a 1:1:1 ratio, as in 1kg of cargo, 1kg of fuel and 1kg of actual plane (compared to a car of ~15:1:10 and a rocket of 1:90:9). this cant be changed very much. the numbers just dont add up for supersonic airliners

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>comfy cubical.
>internet and power so you can do your work on your laptop while you travel
>comfy bed so you can sleep and arrive well rested
vs being packed like a sardine in a screeching tincan just so you can get there in half the time and pay at least three times more.

>>2064686
>Most people would probably gladly pay 50% more for a plane ticket if it meant getting there twice as fast
You've got it backwards, people would gladly travel for twice as long if it meant they'd have to pay 50% less.