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Drumf can't stop losing. Indian student visas are down 75% in USA 01/22/26(Thu)07:32:59 No.1480142
Drumf can't stop losing. Indian student visas are down 75% in USA 01/22/26(Thu)07:32:59 No.1480142
Drumf can't stop losing. Indian student visas are down 75% in USA Anonymous 01/22/26(Thu)07:32:59 No.1480142 [Reply]▶
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Indian students are choosing Canada, the UK, Australia and Yurop over the US. Indian student visas were down 75% over Trump's first year. Drumf and the US can't stop losing as more and more top tier indian human talent chooses yurop over the US
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/indian-student-enrolments -in-us-down-75-in-1st-yr-of-trump-2 -0/articleshow/126730896.cms
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>>1480194
>This is both good for normal Americans
My brother in Christ, foreign students are a fat fucking chunk of a lot of schools' fundings.
Less foreigners either means more expensive classes for US students or, much more likely, less American students. Which ultimately means companies have to bring in more foreign workers to fill the jobs those college graduates would have filled. Which means less jobs for Americans.
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>>1480220
MAGA doesn't realize that a lack of immigration and foreign visas is a bad thing because it means the US is no longer attracting people to it. It's like cheering less black people are going into your store without realizing that means your sales are down 50%.
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>>1480226
No you fucking retard. That means we're in decline. We're a store that's losing customers. A youtube channel with no views. A play no one is attending. If your country isn't attracting people to it, that means something has gone wrong.
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>>1480220
>My brother in Christ, foreign students are a fat fucking chunk of a lot of schools' fundings.
these schools have massive endowments and or public funding, they will live
>Less foreigners either means more expensive classes for US students or, much more likely, less American students.
it wont. the schools have massive endowments. Harvard could give everyone free tuition. state and city schools get public funding
>Which ultimately means companies have to bring in more foreign workers to fill the jobs those college graduates would have filled. Which means less jobs for Americans.
holy shit, you are fucking retarded. the entire reason h1bs and student visas exist is because Reagan's Jewish head of the nsf told ted kennedy to invent them so they could drive down American stem wages. you can look it up. it was released in a congressional hearing in the 1990s. the US does not need foreign workers. that's intentionally dishonest cope from leftist like you and musk who want to fuck over American workers for cheaper labor
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>>1480229
you are also fucking retarded. fewer indian Visa means higher wages for Americans. the only ones getting fucked at the mega rich you leftists cant stop bootlicking. immigration, especially indian immigration, is bad and only leftists like it because it fucks over workers and drives wages and working conditions down
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>>1480240
except you're taking declining gdp and mass importation
Trumps properties are full of foreign workers, and so are all their rich megadonor friends
None of their businesses are being raided by ICE because fuck you, immigrants are great
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>>1480238
>these schools have massive endowments and or public funding, they will live
But the programs won't. Also funding is usually earmarked. Colleges can't just use money donated for construction to keep their engineering program afloat.
>Harvard could give everyone free tuition
There are more schools than just Harvard, dumbass.
>the US does not need foreign workers
And US workers do not need a college education?
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>>1480243
immigrants are terrible and evil and anyone employing them should have their assets nationalized and be deported
>>1480247
most of the companies that are doing layoffs are requesting h1bs so they can lower wages. the market is retarded due to the regain stock buyback thing so it's better for your stock prices if you cut worker salary and fuck over the business long term because cutting salaries means more money for stock buybacks.
plus there are issues with interest rates, over hiring during covid and companies are trying to replace humans with AI because rich leftists dont want to pay wages
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>>1480248
>But the programs won't. Also funding is usually earmarked.
state legislatures control the funding for state colleges. city legislatures for city colleges. they can change the budget
>Colleges can't just use money donated for construction to keep their engineering program afloat.
I assure you no state is going to eliminate engineering at all their public universities
>There are more schools than just Harvard, dumbass.
public colleges get state money, you Indian retard.
>And US workers do not need a college education?
honestly for the work a lot of them do, they don't need college degrees but since employers demand them you're at a major disadvantage if you don't have one.
if someone can do a job with a liberal arts degree they could have done the job with a high school degree. public colleges and ivys are not at risk of shutting down or getting rid of programs like engineering due to lack of jeets/foreign students.
go fucking look up the nsf memos. they literally brag about how creating student visas will drive down stem worker wages and make it nonfinancially viable for Americans to get Phds.
>>1480251
a. Rome wasn't built in a day
b. the left wing globalist cocksuckers are trying to replace Americans with H1Bs and ai to avoid wages and our retarded system only cares about quarterly growth so anyone with decision making power is getting compensated based on next quarter and only care about next quarter and cutting wages improves quarterly growth
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>>1480260
good post
>>1480268
most people need a high school education. if someone has a liberal arts degree they really didn't need a college degree to do that job, but employers are demanding it so anyone without one gets fucked out of a job. there are a lot of jobs that people do that dont involve using their college degrees. if you get rid of h1bs and visajeets companies would be forced to train workers
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>>1480274
>Uh it'll even out eventually, just you watch!
So fun fact: The west coast once completely banned Chinese immigrants under the same logic that "oh whites will eventually replace all the roles they served!" back in the late 1800s. Well, a few decades passed of that, and it just... didn't happen. No one picked up the jobs they left, and people left. The west coast wound up with over 60 years of economic stagnation until they finally let up.
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>>1480142
As an American this is the greatest thing I’ve ever heard. Not even anti-Indian like most people on this site. Goddamn when the CEO of an American company is Indian it riles me up. The only people owning, managing, and working for American companies should be Americans. No one else deserves a slice.
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>>1480323
>CEO of an American company is a citizen of India
It would be acceptable if he wasn't firing American employees and replacing them in Indian nationals and the same trend wasn't happening in multiple companies.
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>>1480277
>but employers are demanding it so anyone without one gets fucked out of a job
the market would adapt. 99% of jobs don't need college or shouldnt. a rando hick farmer can prob do the job of a fancy pants dr degree better because he has not been indoctored with leftist bullshit.
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>>1480269
>immigrants are terrible and evil and anyone employing them should have their assets nationalized and be deported
its really weird that everything you say is a shill lie
if you really cared you'd be calling for ICE to stop wasting its time beating down doors in random MN neighborhoods and instead start going after the businesses hiring migrants
they won't, because going after the cheap foreign labor used by republicunt donors was never the point. its sweeping up all the immigrants who refuse to work for below minimum wage at their cheap factories to scare their immigrants into submission
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>>1480354
>"Things"? What's going to shit?
An increasingly corrupt admin, an economy rapidly going down the drain with inflation, a job market that's literally already at recession levels and getting worse each month, and now a secret police force that can brutalize whoever they want with zero oversight?
>They get to keep their country, which may now go back to reflecting their own culture and heritage
No they get to be trapped in a sinking ship as we lose our place in the global economy and become poorer and poorer.
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>>1480366
I like the administration and I already have a job, so things are looking pretty good. What has mass immigration and demographic change over the last few decades done for my life that I should praise it over the more sentimental things that I value highly?
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>>1480441
When did I say race? I said ethnicity more specifically
>>1480440
>As soon as you consider non-meritorious factors, you have made your nation vulnerable, susceptible to an insidious rot. America will never be that nation.
America was that nation for most of its history. How it normally works is you hire your own people and instill a sense of duty in them so that they naturally wish to better themselves and compete companies in other countries, for the good of your country. Defecting to whoever pays more was traditionally seen as being a traitor, which was not a positive term historically.
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>>1480452
At some point, the term "our country" changes meaning, though, and with that, the meaning of "strength" also changes. The first thing you have to determine is what a country means to you and what you want out of it. Most people see it as a home and a deep part of their identity, formed for the benefit of their people.
Greenland has been in the news lately. Greenland has made it clear that it doesn't want to be taken over by the US and filled with millions of foreign people, even if this would increase GDP. They value their own identity more.
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>>1480468
>A country is not "formed for the benefit of their people" if the bounds of "their people" are determined by race or any other meaningless demographic buzzword you care to substitute. Such bounds make a nation weaker.
Every country is. That's nature, that's history. America was founded in the same terms explicitly. America developed its strength within this framework.
>Our country is America and our strength includes the 25% of Indians who are still applying
>My people are American.
You've been telling me that how this should work is that if those Indians got a better deal from the Chinese, then they'll immediately jump ship and join Team China. This is, of course, a weakness. It's a weakness for any country. At the same time, part of America's offer has to be that it has no culture or heritage of its own, that wherever they settle will mimic their home nation to whatever extent makes them feel most comfortable. This is indistinguishable from selling your country out. It is no longer a nation. In any other context, I don't think you would find this acceptable or rational to support.
Ironically, I'm reminded of an exchange from the movie Gandhi
> Kinnoch: With respect, Mr. Gandhi, without British administration, this country would be reduced to chaos.
>Gandhi: Mr. Kinnoch, I beg you to accept that there is no people on earth who would not prefer their own bad government to the good government of an alien power.
>Like other countries, ours will have its problems. But they will be ours -- not yours.
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Chuds and boomers don't understand how important foreign technical skill is to both the economy and basic infrastructure. The vast majority of US born workers aren't in qualified to handle things like power grids or supply chains, but Indian workers are and we rely on their skills daily. Expect inevitable brown outs and supply shortages in the next few months, possibly the whole electrical grid going under
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>>1480489
They just live in the delusion that American workers will replace them. It's objectively wrong and has been proven wrong repeatedly throughout history, but they'll still hold to it right up until the recession hits.
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>>1480489
>The vast majority of US born workers aren't in qualified to handle things like power grids or supply chains
Wouldn't it make sense to promote such skills? If all this diversifying was supposed to have strengthened us as the above Anon said, why are we left so constantly weak that we need a permanent flow of new foreign workers every year?
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>>1480497
>Google "how many different _____ do the people of India have"
>Gasp! It's not all homogenous at all, is it?
Different subgroups of subgroups that are all distinctly and identifiably Indian, to the point where we wouldn't even bother to classify them any differently, nor would they, if they immigrated to the US
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>>1480516
>You wish this was correct, but it's not even correct about India
If your point rested on the idea of a white guy getting Indian citizenship and being seen as just as Indian as someone genetically indigenous to the region, you'll have to think up a new angle
>If it was just you, it would be a white flag.
The people who founded the country made "American" a somewhat exclusive identity. As they saw it, its flexibility could not go so far as to include all people groups, only to those with whom they (as Europeans) could form a common identity with. This is a view that has been taken for granted from the beginning of the country until very recently.
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>>1480516
America isn't a place, it's a people. There is no magic dirt or magic piece of paper that turns you into an American. It's your ties to the land and the family who raised you there that make you an American.
American culture is downstream from the American people, which was predominantly English until recently, and it's showing in the way our nation is now being governed.
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>>1480559
The correct word is aboriginal (thats right, it doesn't just mean Aussie natives) but indigenous and native are used interchangeably. Welcome to 5th grade social studies my brother, next month we're gonna learn about the civil war
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>>1480578
Yup, whites are historically oppressors in America. We've been on top for a while and abused the privilege.
Look at you today in this thread, trying to deny nonwhites a place in America. You're literally trying to oppress people, you bad boy.
None of us take you seriously anymore though. Your tribe is going extinct, because you based your identity around being white.
RIP. Seems like it's too late for you.
It's not too late for your kids and grandkids though. Eventually, your line will die out, or come over to the side of peace and love. All it takes is one generation where your hate fails to be passed on, and then no matter if the next generation slips up and tries to go back to hatred, your "tribe" won't recognize them, because they won't be "white". You're like the Shakers, my man. Your philosophy ensures its own extinction, all we have to do is sit back and enjoy the epicaricacy.
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>>1480580
>Yup, whites are historically oppressors in America. We've been on top for a while and abused the privilege.
The obvious reason being that they made the country, which obviously makes it beneficial to them and their offspring. This was the point of making the country. This is why it exists in the first place.
View the United States through the same lens as you would any other country and you'd have a more reasonable idea of what to expect of it.
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>>1480656
Jeets refuse to acknowledge that whites are a superior race to them and that the only reason modern society exists is because of whites. All technology, buildings, and functioning society in India and Africa were given to them by whites. Jeets are unable to have the most basic bare bones society on their own, but they view themselves as equals to white Americans
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>>1480658
I won't go that far, but the guy is saying Americans are oppressors because they made a successful country for themselves (which also undermines the whole "diversity is our strength" argument), when no other country would be expected to work and sacrifice for generations just to hand it off to totally alien people who they have nothing in common with and won't carry on their legacy. It's so ridiculous that even he understands it's ridiculous and doesn't bother trying to make a rational point about it.
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>WHO WILL WORK FOR FREE FOR THE BILLIONAIRINOS????????????????????????????????
muh heckin trillionaires are starving!!!! where is their infinite supply of fresh black slaves to keep their GDP growing????????????????????????
>>1480280
>Chinese """""""""""""""immigrants""""""""""""""""
you mean slaves
https://slguardian.org/americas-forgotten-slaves-the-chinese-tragedy/
who will the heckin railroad trusts hire if they can't have their heckin' black and chinese slaves????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>1480666
Yeah nice try. That article is details 40-20 years prior to the ban.
I love how you retards are like "no no, you're treating them like slaves! Why can't you be like us and treat them like animals we should be allowed to kill or throw into dangerous locations for fun?"
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>>1480243
Immigrants were great during the Industrial Revolution when our country was empty and we needed expansion and growth as fast as possible. All that growth is done. Now the only thing immigrants do is depress wages. The only reason we need them for meat packing plants is because the dollar is so insanely artificially high. It is not a good system to have an under class of labor always coming into our country to work for ultra low wages. I am a leftist. Infinite growth is a lie and an Ponzi scheme. Diversity is nice in a high trust society but the minute you go into low trust it turns into corruption and tribalism.
I hate the MAGA movment, and the fascist neo fudalism that is hiding right behind it. But I will not be carrying any water for the neo-liberal ideologies and policies that was complicit in getting us here.
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>>1480683
Teachers in the US at top universities still make shit. They arnt getting the money the share holders are. Facilities arnt getting the money the share holders are. Litteraly what made those colleges great where grants and trusts over a hundred years ago and then feeding into the best economy in the world. They became great when tuition was a sizably smaller ratio of cost to consumer. So try again. The tuition isn’t making the schools great.
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>>1480685
That's not the problem in my area
In my area it is the administrators who are soaking up the resources. They don't teach any courses. They don't mark any papers or tests. They just seemed to send emails. Especially when COVID-19 and BLM were the issues of the day
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>>1480669
AHEM
ACK
AHEM
>Yeah nice try. That article is details 40-20 years prior to the ban.
>inhales
MUH
RAILROAD
TRUSTERINOS
NEED
INFINITE
SLAVE
LABOR
>inhales through teef
MUH
BILLIONAIRE
MASTERINOS
>>1480669
>"no no, you're treating them like slaves! Why can't you be like us and treat them like animals we should be allowed to kill or throw into dangerous locations for fun?"
wow, if only a certain demographic didn't keep bringing in human slaves and if only Republicans didn't keep stopping them!!! fucking fascists!!!! stopping muh heckin billionairinos again and again every 100 years or so!!!!
you going to lose another civil war again over it?
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>>1480696
No this is different, I'M the one that stopped slavery even though I hate republicans and MY infinite slave labor in the modern day is heckin' good because it makes MY industries lots of money.
>sips latte
>runs car into federal officers
>gets shot
THIS IS WHAT FASCISM LOOKS LIKE
>Imports a billion more slaves
>Gets likes and attention from social media campaigns for supporting it
>Lives like rats crowded together in gulags
>Can't afford anything because you're competing with a billion other people for resources
This is Trump's America.
>in b4 YOU'RE CRAZY I DIDN'T SAY THAT IT'S JUST BEEN MY POLITICS FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS
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>>1480669
>Yeah nice try. That article is details 40-20 years prior to the ban.
You fucking dishonest retard, they didn't just magically vanish in 20 years. 20 years is the same amount of time you've been importing infinite mexicans and H1Bs and we're STILL living with the fallout of that.
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>>1480340
I'm not lying you billionaire bootlicker and I can be mad at 2 things at once. ice wouldn't need go be in min if blue cities and states would put humans above illegals for once and aid in deporting those invader scumbags. but you fags like invaders. that's why tampon tim helped the samalis defraud the government, bootlicker.
>>1480342
yeah leftists see countries as economic zones and residents as individual economic units
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>>1480713
>muh invaders
God you know how many countries throughout history wish they were invaded by people fully willing to pay taxes and work for below minimum wage just to be able to stay there?
Also why do you refuse to put humans over your hate for illegals? Children are being gassed and ICE is brutalizing people in the streets. They've proven to be a bigger threat to the average Minnesotan than any illegal.
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>>1480491
that's fucking bullshit and you know it, musk boot licker
>>1480500
because it's bullshit. anytime there has ever been a skill gap like with coding, Americans got trained and filled the gap. the only time a "skill gap" exists is because fag don't want to pay market value for a set of skills, see teachers getting paid below market rate in some states. the US economy does not need jeets. h1bs and student visas weren't a thing before 1990
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>>1480714
ohhhhh muh heeeeccckkiinnnng RAILROAD TRUSTERINOS
wow, if only a certain demographic didn't keep bringing in human slaves and if only Republicans didn't keep stopping them!!! fucking fascists!!!! stopping muh heckin billionairinos again and again every 100 years or so!!!!
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>>1480722
>because it's bullshit. anytime there has ever been a skill gap like with coding, Americans got trained and filled the gap
Even if we accept this as true; who trains them retard? The people you're deporting and who aren't coming to the US anymore? You can't conjure training out of thin air.
>h1bs and student visas weren't a thing before 1990
Yeah because prior to that immigration was as simple as checking in at Ellis Island and then finding a job. Maybe double check your history.
>>1480724
yeah yeah we get it you're retarded.
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>>1480732
good to know that you are a faggot jeet tranny.
>>1480731
you do know the jeets aren't skilled, boot licker? 2/3rds of h1bs are entry level or the step right above entry level and Americans are being asked to train their jeet replacements.
h1bs arent skilled or talented, they just work for less money. musk literally said he prefers jeets because they work 80 hours a week, dont ask for raises or overtime and work in conditions that violate labor laws.
we do not need h1bs. they only exist so the mega rich can pay less for labor.
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>>1480220
Bro there is INSANE administrative bloat at colleges. They wouldn't need all that cash if they slashed the 50% of the administrative staff that needn't exist. Literally 60% of college budgets are administrative staff salaries, their operations costs, and their benefits.