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Homicide rate plummeted all over the country under Trump

Democrats are seething over another trump win for Americans
https://apnews.com/article/homicide-rate-decrease-cities-crime-b6fce2ee6c2169a6bb4aaf3e82bab032
Homicide rate declines sharply in dozens of US cities, a new report shows

Data collected from 35 American cities showed a 21% decrease in the homicide rate from 2024 to 2025, translating to about 922 fewer homicides last year, according to a new report from the independent Council on Criminal Justice.

The report, released on Thursday, tracked 13 crimes and recorded drops last year in 11 of those categories including carjackings, shoplifting, aggravated assaults and others. Drug crimes saw a small increase over last year and sexual assaults stayed even between 2024 and 2025, the study found.
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Guy should deploy some troops to Arkansas. Help 'em out.
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Homicide has been falling since 1993 setting aside COVID and 9/11. Dem leadership has been doing great for cities around the country.
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>>1480227
except for that whole summer of love thing when dems incited their base into a violent frenzy and homicides jumped 30% in one year
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>>1480234
That was 2020, you fucking COVID-brained fuckwit.
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>>1480253
did covid make dems chase a 'defund the police' initiative?
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>>1480259
Covid demonstratably led to a homicide spike even before the George Floyd protests. The peak was the month of May, while the protests only started at the end of that month.
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>>1480264
peak homicide rate for 2020 was in july. after democrats began pushing for defund the police. after tim walz let arsonists torch his own precinct. after kamala endorsed minnesota bail fund for violent criminals.
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>>1480259
>people go insane from fearing a virus, being isolated, being surrounded by people they hate, and not going outside
must be the dems
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>>1480267
Why do you lie?
>https://www.brookings.edu/articles/why-did-u-s-homicides-spike-in-2020-and-then-decline-rapidly-in-2023-and-2024/
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>>1480271
Even if we granted your framing, the Democrat response to mass violent hysteria was "make it easier for them to do crime and don't punish them for it"
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>>1480285
Why'd the homicide rate rapidly shrink under Biden as soon as covid ended then?
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>>1480288
It didn't. 2021 homicide rate was even higher. 2022 rivaled 2020. It wasn't until 2024, after dems started pulling back on 'defund the police' in preparation for elections, that the crime rate returned to pre-2020 levels.
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>>1480290
>as soon as covid ended then?
R E A D
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>>1480290
You bought a tRump watch didn't you? N'YUCK N'YUCK
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>>1480296
There's no causality between covid and the homicide rate. Unless we're talking about cuomo stuffing infected people into retirement homes.
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>>1480212
All the sudden you’re a math and stats expert? Nigga get lost with your bullshit
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>>1480325
>seething democrat melting down
You think OP wrote the article?
Facts don't care about your mental illness
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>>1480259
>did covid make dems chase a 'defund the police' initiative?
Were the police actually defunded? Shut the fuck up.
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>>1480328
it sucks you're going to be working overtime

>Q: Did you uncover evidence to prove Trump knew his claim the election was stolen was false?
>JACK SMITH: Yes
>Q: And Trump claimed it was stolen while he privately acknowledged he lost?
>JACK SMITH: Yes
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>>1480259
>>1480285
I see, and why did the violent crime rate plummet in New York City when the police went on strike?
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>>1480339
yes, police funding was cut in various states. but "defund the police" was part of a larger soft on crime democrat policy. catch and release, drug and theft decriminalization, and villainization of law enforcement by democrat politicians all contributed to an increase in crime under biden.
>>1480350
source?
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>>1480296
NTA, it's convenient that, for you, covid ended long after all the lockdown measures had already ended beforehand. I mean we could consider it officially ending when WHO said the emergency was over with in May 2023... but then that wouldn't look good for your crime stats.
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>>1480362
>I mean we could consider it officially ending when WHO said the emergency was over with in May 2023... but then that wouldn't look good for your crime stats.
Actually if you look at the crime stats there's a massive drop in 2023 that continued in 2024.
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>>1480364
And yet wasn't at pre-2020 levels like that other anon said. Either way I find it very amusing how you blame covid for the rise in crime and not the PAINFULLY obvious defund the police movement combined with supporting the BLM (you would probably call them the boogaloo) riots, encouraging mob justice.
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>>1480212
Thank you, MR. PRESIDENT Donald J. Trump!
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>>1480350
>if we classify less crimes as felonies
>we can pretend crime is down
>hehe retarded leftists are too stupid to notice the increase in cases being classified as misdemeanors
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>>1480378
This is the 5th attempt over the last few weeks for Russian troll bots to use this misinformation to praise Trump without reason. These numbers have been dropping this same rate since Covid highs. Trumps actions have done nothing to lower this number because the large majority of murders are committed by us citizens and immigration has negligible effects on our murder rate.

But keep bullshitting yourselves with misinformation and bigotry, you stupid fucks.
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>>1480383
It be like that tho
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>>1480383
This is about murder. No one is classifying murder as a lower crime to change the murder rate. You are full of shit.
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>>1480386
you're a retard who can't do basic research what do i expect from a leftist
violent crime rate isn't fucking exclusively murder you dipshit
I hope you get shanked and it gets classified as a misdemeanor while you bleed out in your home.
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>>1480386
>...(San Francisco) district attorney, Chesa Boudin, an extremely progressive prosecutor, who some consider to still have the mindset of his days as an SF public defender. Boudin is notable in that he is the child of a mom and dad convicted for first-degree murder in the killing of two police officers during the robbery of a Brinks truck about 40 years ago.
>This didn’t get Boudin and the police off to the best start, and their relationship has gone further south, with Boudin criticizing police for not clearing more crimes. Boudin himself has been widely criticized for failing to prosecute obvious cases, including a person who had been arrested multiple times over the previous year, who had a history of felony convictions, and who ultimately killed two women while driving a stolen car after drinking and using methamphetamine.
>Boudin chose not to prosecute, and forwarded the case to the parole department. The charges? Two counts of voluntary manslaughter, possession of a stolen vehicle, leaving the scene of an accident, burglary, driving while under the influence of alcohol and drugs, driving while addicted to drugs, possessing a gun and a large-capacity ammunition magazine, and violating the terms of parole. He had also been arrested just prior to the crash on charges including possession of methamphetamine and car theft.
>Boudin defended his decision by indicating that the parole department would have a much better chance at stopping the cycle of crime for these types of individuals: “We evaluated the facts, the strength of the case and the charges, and decided it was more likely that he would be held accountable through parole.”
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>>1480391
Your one example is a guy who killed people in the car with him while driving intoxicated. And he was convicted of manslaughter, a murder charge.

Also here is a list of times republicans have tried to protect republicans who hit people with their car during protests on purpose. Obviously conservatives are only concerned about this crime when it is not you who is killing people with their vehicle.

Try harder you fascist shill. Your misinformation is hanging out. Tuck that shit away, idiot.
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>>1480421
https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Have_GOP_lawmakers_tried_to_shield_drivers_who_hit_protesters
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>>1480212
How will liggerals complain about/deny this?
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>>1480424
>>1480421
Oh you just want to get btfo with more evidence?
Ok then
https://www.city-journal.org/article/austin-texas-district-attorney-jose-garza-progressive-ideology
>progressive prosecutor in Austin, Texas, was reported to have not pursued an indictment in a murder case, where the defendant was accused of killing someone suspected of cooperating with police
https://www.foxnews.com/us/soros-backed-blue-city-da-under-fire-after-freeing-suspect-tied-miss-usa-hopefuls-death
>In Philadelphia, District Attorney Larry Krasner’s office dropped assault and kidnapping charges against a suspect after the victim didn’t appear in court; the same individual was later charged in the disappearance and death of a woman. Critics cited this decision as an example of dropped violent charges
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimberly_Gardner
>Multiple murder charges were dismissed by St. Louis Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner’s office due to procedural issues (e.g., failing to provide defense material), part of broader controversy around dropped violent prosecutions.
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>>1480264
>The peak was the month of May,
>>1480283
>Why do you lie?
Anon why do you lie? Your own chart shows the homicide rate peaking at July.
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>>1480439
>>progressive prosecutor in Austin, Texas, was reported to have
you're reported as a faggot every single day, but is it true?
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>>1480439
All three of these examples were court mistakes. Paperwork mistakes that let these criminals skirt the law. Trump pardoned hundreds of people who beat cops with Trump flags on national television.

So is your issue crime and criminals being let go without consequences? Well Trump seems far worse than these court paperwork mistakes.

Maybe your issue that these courts rule more liberal and have convicted Trump supporters for election fraud crimes? Because these articles you link all mention that even though it is unrelated.

Hmm seems like you are cherry picking any crime that involves brown people or liberals while ignoring the far more examples of Trump and conservatives protecting criminals openly because they are loyal to Trump.

Maybe this is about MAGA authoritarianism and not about caring about crime?

Do you have any examples where courts actively redesignated murders as not murders with the specific purpose of lowering murder rate numbers to make democrats look good?

That is what you are claiming is fact. Can you give an actual example of that? Or is it all vibes?
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>>1480490
Where does innocent mistakes end and prosecutorial disretion begin?
How do we know they were innocent mistakes that happened to let criminals go, and how do we know it wasn't a deliberate effort to release criminals?
Red states have responded to activist prosecutors by reducing their ability to decline prosecuting cases. But a half-hearted prosecution is a prosecutor defacto refusing to try a case
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Probably because the economy is doing great, but this still doesn't change the fact that left wingers deserve to die
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>>1480439
Good post
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>>1480490
Proof?

All you posted is your opinion
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>>1480359
>yes, police funding was cut in various states
No. It wasn't. Literally no state cut police funding. Several cities and towns looked at doing so, all but a handful balked, and of those most reversed course literally within a budget or two. Police funding across the country has climbed faster than the cost of fucking tuition.
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>>1480573
Why must you lie? It's all so tiring.

Austin, TX (2021)
Cut ~30% of police budget; moved funds to housing, mental health, and violence prevention.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/defunding-claims-police-funding-increased-us-cities/story?id=91511971

Seattle, WA (2021)
Reduced SPD budget ~18%, including overtime and staffing-related cuts.
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-city-council-approves-2021-budget-with-cuts-to-police/

Minneapolis, MN (2020–2021)
Redirected ~$7.7M from police to mental health and violence prevention programs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/us/minneapolis-police-budget.html

Portland, OR (2020)
Cut ~$15M from police budget; reduced specialized units and overtime.
https://www.axios.com/local/portland/2021/06/10/portland-police-budget-cuts

San Francisco, CA (2021)
Diverted ~$60M from police budget over two years; canceled planned increases.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-city-budget-police-funding/

Washington, DC (2020)
City Council cut ~$15M from police budget amid reform push.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/dc-police-budget-cuts/2020/06/16/

Baltimore, MD (2020)
Reduced police budget by ~$22M (about 5%) from mayor’s proposal.
https://www.baltimoresun.com/politics/bs-md-pol-city-budget-20200626-story.html

Los Angeles, CA (2020)
Reallocated ~$150M from LAPD to community programs (partial cut, partial freeze).
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-07-01/la-city-council-police-budget-cuts

New York City, NY (2020)
Shifted ~$1B from NYPD via overtime cuts, school safety transfers, and accounting changes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/30/nyregion/nypd-budget.html
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>>1480600
LOL. why does it say this in the very first link you post esl shill?

>ABC's analysis of police budget data shows police spending has increased in some of the very cities frequently cited by conservative politicians and pundits as places where Democrats' defunding has fueled violent crime waves
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>>1480600
Cuts to increases aren't cuts. Eat a bag of rotten dicks.
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>>1480602
It says exactly what was quoted, you assblasted faggot.
Austin cut police budget by 30% in 2020
And they kept it that way for 2 years until the skyrocketing crime became unbearable.

I'm sorry facts disagree with your feelings (Not!)
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>>1480609
Lmao you assblasted faggot.
Which city are you talking about? Are you picking out the line "cancelled plan increases" which immediately follows the statement "Diverted ~$60M from police budget over two years"?

Because that's a budget cut.
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>>1480609
>cuts aren't cuts
Turdies must leave
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>>1480609
>Cuts aren't cuts
retard.
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>>1480600
1. None of these are states
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>Austin/San Francisco/Baltimore/LA increased the budget above the cuts the following year past pre-cut levels
>Seattle didn't actually cut their budget at all. They just moved parking enforcement and 911 services to a different section of the city budget to make it look like they did
>Minneapolis/NYC reversed the spending cuts almost entirely the next year and ballooned the budget the year after that
>The miniscule reduction Portland saw (it ended up $8.66m) was due to reduced overtime payouts (2020 saw that shit spike due to police presence at protests).
>DC actually cut their police budget because they were bleeding officers at the time. Can't pay staff you don't have. Also, DC is the most heavily policed city on earth and falls within the operating jurisdiction of a ridiculous number of police departments. Also more cops per capita than anywhere on earth. 1 department seeing a temporary reduction in force matters jack shit.
So we've got 3 fake cuts and the rest were completely reversed within a year or two, exactly like I fucking said.
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>>1480667
>None of these are states
That's because states don't set local police budgets, turdie. Police are funded by the city government they work for. Where are you shilling from, some warehouse in China or Cambodia or something?

jfc you third world shills are getting dumber and dumber.
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>>1480602
>retarded leftists thinks budgets stay the same year after year
ok maybe you deserve to be iced
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>>1480573
>No. It wasn't. Literally no state cut police funding.
Anon I'm not even that guy you're talking to and I know this is bullshit. First off I'm going to call you out for this bullshit tactic: He said
>"police funding was cut in various states"
You turned it into:
>"Literally no state cut police funding."
And then when he showed you several places "in various states" that cut funding, you thought that was a gotcha with
>"1. None of these are states"

Now that we've got that bullshit out of the way, everyone knows that Austin cut 1/3rd of their police budgets - $150 million dollars - and then broke their record for homicides before 2021 was even finished. It got so bad that Gov. Abbott had to force them to pay their police and then Republicans had to pass a law requiring a minimum funding for law enforcement.

So yeah this is just ridiculous cope on your part.

>>1480609
>Cuts to increases aren't cuts. Eat a bag of rotten dicks.
If Austin cut their police budget, and then was forced to pay their police budget after homicides spiked higher than the mid-80s, it was still initially cut.

>>1480667
>>Austin/San Francisco/Baltimore/LA increased the budget above the cuts the following year past pre-cut levels
>pre-cut levels
>pre-cut
So this acknowledges there was a cut? The thing you said never happened?

Holy fuck /news/. Never change.
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>>1480757
Very good post
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>>1480253
"stay at home or be arrested, unless you want to go out and do a mostly peaceful riot/looting/burning in which case you have a perfect right!"

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