>>1483065
They should just invite her to claim them in person then arrest her for criminal extortion.

The Trump administration has pressed for greater access to Minnesota jails and prisons for weeks, suggesting it may roll back immigration operations in the state if it had more power to go into detention facilities to pursue people accused of being in the U.S. illegally. State corrections officials say they already cooperate with ICE, but cooperation varies at the county level.

Bondi said the federal government needs access to state voter roll data to "confirm that Minnesota's voter registration practices comply with federal law." The Justice Department has pushed Minnesota and other states to provide voter registration data for months, suing Minnesota for access to the data last year — but the department typically hasn't tied that push to immigration enforcement efforts in Minnesota in the past.

And Bondi demanded that the state share records on Medicaid and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, also known as food stamps, so the federal government can "efficiently investigate fraud," as the Trump administration focuses on alleged fraud schemes in Minnesota public assistance programs.

In his response, Simon noted: "Attorney General Bondi knows full well that the Governor has no formal role in managing our elections or maintaining our voter registration system. She is also well aware that this specific request is the subject of active litigation with our office."

"It is deeply disturbing that the U.S. Attorney General would make this unlawful request a part of an apparent ransom to pay for our state's peace and security," Simon added. "More broadly, the federal government must end the unprecedented and deadly occupation of our state immediately."

The governor's office reacted to the letter by urging the Trump administration to "engage in a serious conversation about ending this federal occupation." In a statement Sunday, Walz's office sharply criticized the conduct of federal immigration agents, including Saturday's fatal shooting of Alex Pretti and another shooting by a federal officer that killed Renee Good earlier this month.

"This is not common sense, lawful immigration enforcement. That is not what this occupation is about. And it's not what the attorney general's letter is about," the statement read.

>>1483065
But anon, illegal immigrants are about election meddling and electoral vote manipulation.
You know this though, or whoever feeds you your propaganda knows it.

>>1483065
This is good. They're looking for an off-ramp.
Don't give up, Minnesota. It's working.

>>1483085
I mean, yeah. But it's also about stocking my rape dungeon with undocumented, untraceable bussy.

>>1483085
Years of bullshit investigations failed to find widespread election fraud, but nice try

>>1483091
OK but willingly housing illegals affects apportionment and we know that Democrats are doing it.

>>1483094
Texas has 1.6 million estimated, Minnesotas estimated population isn’t even in the top 10. Why aren’t they down there?

>>1483099
Why are illegals in Minnesota?

>>1483102
Answer the question

>>1483103
They are.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/11/03/texas-trump-immigration-crackdown-ice-arrests-deportation/
Maybe research your questions before you ask.
Now why is there a gay assforce of homosexual antifa fagtivists, who I may add routinely cross state lines, trying to interfere with ICE removing illegals REALLY fucking north of the US Mexico border in a sanctuary state?

>>1483107
Give a real answer faggot

>>1483163
he can't stop thinking about weird sex fantasies and projecting them on us, if only we had an explanation as to why

>>1483085
You mean Republicans stealing elections? We know

>>1483171
Neither are acceptable.
N-no. W-we're not d-doing anything wrong or engaging in any illegal conspiracies over here

>>1483173
What's wrong with being gay, boss?

>>1483177
that's a you question, self hating shill

>>1483178
I mean if there's nothing wrong with being gay, then there's no problems, right?
>self hating
I'm not trans

>>1483181
>spams this board
I haven't posted here in a week.
And you think everyone is esl shill who doesn't agree with you spamming "esl shill" at everyone everywhere.
If replying to people who reply to me in the same fashion they reply to me, like facetious idiots, is spamming, the this whole board should be purged.

>>1483182
Good post

>>1483107
>From Trump’s inauguration to July 29, ICE made 138,068 arrests nationwide, 24% of them in Texas.
So about 33,000 over six months. At that rate the task isn't even close to done. Yet they're surging agents away from there. It doesn't add up.

>>1483192
Voting D is only rebellion if you think people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>1483196
that is what the trump administration wishes, good point

>>1483195
Not so long ago voting Trump was called anti-Democracy and Democrats attempted to ensure it was impossible to do.
Yes I do remember that

>>1483199
He committed treason.

>>1483196
>ICE surge came in response to riots
Even if things had happened in that order, that would be negligence in itself. ICE don't have the training to be dedicated riot cops.

>>1483202
Nah. But I had to cringe as my country held primetime show trials as a propaganda tactic.

>>1483205
>my country
LOL

>>1483204
So... The organized riots are a tactic to push ICE out of their area of expertise, like the rules for radicals say?
Interesting.

>>1483208
>I contribute nothing
Thanks for nothing, again

>>1483209
When they already fucked up while doing the things that are meant to be within their expertise it's kind of redundant.

>>1483065
Illegal immigrants can't vote, and their existence in America depends on their keeping their heads down and off the books. Ergo, they will not BE on the fucking voter rolls. This isn't about finding illegals.

>>1483196
>Minnesota isn't voting they're rioting
Before or after ICE showed up?

Man you fuckers have brain damage.

Also riots destroy buildings. Like Jan 6th. None of that bullshit's happening.

>>1483196
The only riots are by ICE and the fascist right wing
This has always been the case.

>>1483232
But again, keeping illegals is about apportionment and congressional seats.
Also if there's nothing to see, then it should be a small price to pay for justice for illegal immigrants.

>>1483243
Then why are the ones in Texas and Florida counted? Sounds like Republicans are super weak on crime when it comes to enriching themselves, but given you're all pedophiles too, that makes sense.

>>1483247
>Then why are the ones in Texas and Florida counted?
Federal law.
>Sounds like Republicans are super weak on crime when it comes to enriching themselves
25% of all illegals have been arrested in Texas,
>but given you're all pedophiles too, that makes sense.
Ad hom

Do any of you liggeral dickweeds have the mental capacity to form a cogent point? Or do you believe that being absolutely insufferable liars is all we deserve?

>>1483065
>OP pic
>dems cheered and supported the government over-stepping their authority to go after conservatives any way possible
>now dems are calling conservatives bootlickers for sitting back and watching with popcorn as the same government dems cheered for a few years ago work against them
Left-wing hypocrisy knows no limits.

>>1483253
Please cite a similar incident under Dems.

>>1483254
NTA
I would, but you don't care, so there's no point in taking your challenge.

>>1483254
Censoring conservatives on fagbook, firing people who refused the jab, expanding red flag laws and gun confiscations - including the ATF murdering a person during a no-knock raid, etc.

>>1483258
Wow none of those are grabbing a man off the street and executing him in broad daylight simply because they found a gun on him.

>>1483243
But they aren't counted, because Trump made sure to scare them away from the 2020 Census.

>>1483251
Clearly not since have their population representation in the census reduced?
Looks like the pedophile republicans, and you are at it again with your voter fraud.

>>1483282
>He fought them
How? He doesn't swing at them, he doesn't go for his gun. Literally all he does is move his limbs, which has more to do with the fucking pepperspray in his eyes and the fact they're pistol whipping him in the head.

>>1483270
>executing a man in his home for selling antique firearms isn't as bad as executing a retard who keeps provoking ICE agents while carrying a gun
How's that pendulum feel when it swings back harder and hits you in your faggot mouth?

>>1483297
>How?
He resisted arrest.
If you get abused by the feds you can take them to court and get a settlement. Don't fucking fight the feds though, they will kill you dead.

>>1483299
Bryan Malinowski actually shot at the ATF. Per the Trump administration right now, his death was justified.

>>1483300
>He resisted arrest.
How was he resisting? He was moving but that's because he had spray in his eyes and was being pistol whipped in the head. Was he supposed to go limp?

>>1483301
>Bryan Malinowski actually shot at the ATF.
During a no-knock raid, their second attempt at a SEARCH WARRANT that they didn't execute a week before because the guy wasn't there to kill, where they disabled his camera, power, and busted in without announcing themselves while him and his wife were asleep. Now go ahead and compare that to some faggot protester who keeps standing in the middle of the street pissing ICE off until they get tired of his shit and arrest him, where he struggles and resists arrest while carrying a gun (brilliant strategy there).

>>1483302
>Was he supposed to go limp?
He was supposed to do what the feds told him to do.
Quick and sudden movements, making it look like you're reaching for something hidden etc with law enforcement officers will get you killed.

>>1483163
>Why isn't ICE in texas?
>They are, here's a source
>Give a real answer

>>1483302
>it takes five ice agents to hold him down
>how was he resisting?

>>1483310
Yeah so, his death was more justified than Pretti's, who didn't even brandish his gun, much less unholster it.

>>1483308
>Quick and sudden movements, making it look like you're reaching for something hidden etc with law enforcement officers will get you killed.
Which he didn't do. We have eyes anon.

>>1483312
Yeah they didn't need 5 ICE agents to hold someone down. They literally ran in with a six man squad and all of them tackled him to the ground and started beating the shit out of him. At no point was he doing anything that required one agent to get backup; they were all on him from the start for no fucking reason.

>>1483307
>Now go ahead and compare that to some faggot protester who keeps standing in the middle of the street pissing ICE off until they get tired of his shit and arrest him, where he struggles and resists arrest while carrying a gun (brilliant strategy there).
Yeah easy, one of them didn't even take his gun out and was killed AFTER they took it from his holster.

>>1483316
Your argument was that Malinowski's death was an injustice. So now you're saying it was ok?

>>1483318
seems more like the argument is that there is a double standard being applied

>>1483323
That's because trump shills are trying to derail from the fact ICE murdered Petti in cold blood when they already confiscated his legally owned fire arm and had him pinned face down on the ground.
Don't let the distract from the those simplefacts.

>>1483324
>ICE murdered Petti in cold blood
seems more like they panicked in a stressful situation

>>1483325
That's just the latest lie you're doing, it was clearly premeditated given eye witness accounts showed them counting the bullet holes they put into the innocent man and blocking a doctor from rendering first aid.
No spinning your way out of this murder.

>>1483328
why do you think they did it? just being evil?

>>1483065
in the words of steven bonett each person iced is +1 for the red party

>>1483328
You seem.. petti
>badum tsh

>>1483340
What did the navy seals do to you to earn such disrespect

>>1483317
After he kept putting himself in a situation where he fucked around and find out. So not only is what happened to right-wingers a few years ago worse, but we've got plenty of examples of your side cheering for it, saying he deserved it, voting for politicians that support more of it, etc. etc.

You don't get to bitch to me about the government treading on you when you were their cheerleader less than five years ago. Now how's that pendulum taste, motherfucker?

>>1483333
>Death threats
The fascists are really freaking out that the normalfags are waking up to the fact they aren't safe from the fascist right's murderous brutality.

>>1483344
You realize you're literally supporting the government treading even harder right? According to the FBI and DHS right now you officially no longer have a right to bear arms at a protest. At all.

>>1483323
>Petti shot at ICE
No he didn't.

>>1483351
Because he was murdered by a bunch of ICE thugs committing brutality. Hope this helps.

>>1483348
>You realize you're literally supporting the government treading even harder right?
How so? I'm not voting for politicians to censor left-wing dicksuckers on social media? I'm not forcing them to take an experimental vaccine or else lose their job. I'm not even voting for anti-gun politicians to go into their homes and confiscate their firearms without any due process.

The same way they did to us.

I'm simply sitting back and laughing at the big government voters getting a taste of that big government. Y'all thought it was so fucking hilarious when Ashli Babbitt got shot, and now you're crying your eyes out bawling at us for not helping you fight the big bad government that you empowered.

Get fucked. You created this monster. Now it's my turn to sit back and not only watch you people get fucked up in return, but then seethe and threaten how you're going to do the same thing right back to us all over again when you get back into power.

Now let's keep this pendulum swinging harder and harder until this clock breaks.

>>1483357
You are literally voting for the complete removal of the right to bear arms. You know, that thing you used to love?

Like fucking clockwork the moment this admin saw even a wiff of the 2nd amendment being used against them they declared it was now illegal to bring guns to protests. So illegal it justifies feds magdumping you in the street.

>>1483360
It's all on video. He never even touches his own gun; they disarm him of it, then unload into him.

>>1483361
>You are literally voting for the complete removal of the right to bear arms.
Who did I vote for that's doing this?

>>1483366
DHS and FBI are openly declaring you can no longer bring guns to protests and it gives police justification to shoot you. No more open or concealed carry within range of a protest as far as the feds are concerned. Dems didn't do this; Trump and company did.

>>1483368
How was he agitating? He recorded them with his phone and tried to help two women they peppersprayed for also recording them.

>>1483367
>DHS and FBI are openly declaring you can no longer bring guns to protests
Where did they say this?
>and it gives police justification to shoot you.
Just carrying where you're allowed to? No. Resisting arrest and fighting with cops, to where they think you're pulling a gun and have to shoot you? Yeah, that's a bad idea and it's nothing new. You couldn't do that before and you can't do that after. Nothing's changed.

>>1483372
>Where did they say this?
https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-shooting-dhs-has-claimed-its-unlawful-protesters-carry-guneven-legal-permit.amp
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-administration-goes-second-amendment-195142424.html

>Resisting arrest and fighting with cops, to where they think you're pulling a gun and have to shoot you?
Yeah this isn't what happened. They knew he wasn't pulling a gun because they already has his gun in their hands. He wasn't even "resisting", he was reacting to the pepperspray they shot in his eyes right before tackling him and the pistol whipping they were doing while he was on the ground.

>>1483374
why do you think they shot him?

>>1483374
>https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-shooting-dhs-has-claimed-its-unlawful-protesters-carry-guneven-legal-permit.amp
Where did anyone OPENLY DECLARE YOU CAN NO LONGER BRING GUNS TO A PROTEST? I'm not seeing that in this video. Do you have a timestamp?

>>1483378
Then show it. The fucking Fox News (lmao lefties using Fox as a source now?!?) website says that DHS said they're not allowed to carry at protests, but I'm not seeing a single quote or finding anything in the three videos here where someone directly said this. So I'm calling bullshit.

>>1483380
>You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple.
can you really not imagine a situation where someone on your own political side makes this statement and you see it as reasonable?

>>1483383
Not what I asked.

>>1483380
>You cannot bring a firearm, loaded, with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple.
Okay, straight up he's wrong. I don't support Kash saying this and I'm not voting for the guy. If he wants to take the stance that it's not legal to carry where it actually is, then fuck him. Get him out of office.

Now am I supporting this guy?

>>1483387
Source?

>>1483371
>No one denies he was there to agitate and oppose the feds.
>but no one disagrees that petti was there to agitate
Yes they do, and saying it twice doesn't change that. Protesting isn't agitating.

>>1483373
Protesting isn't fighting the feds either.

>>1483392
>Whatever you want to call
No, faggot, it is not, "whatever you want to call" it, words have meaning. I'm using them correctly, you're not, on purpose, because you want to make it sound like he was doing something worse than he was.
>you've lost my respect.
Good, don't want it.

>>1483393
You don't think he was there to oppose the actions of federal agents? What was he there to do?

>>1483397
>dialing back "agitating" and "fighting" to just "opposing"
Don't waste my fucking time.
He was there to protest. That isn't fighting or agitating.

>>1483399
ok but he was there to oppose the actions of federal agents right?

>>1483400
Yeah, via protesting.

>>1483163
This is why you're losing

>>1483402
>Petti, after what he did, deserved to be killed
No, he didn't.
>and you're fooling yourself if you think you would survive that situation. You would die like him. LEOs don't suffer fools.
That doesn't mean he deserved to be killed.

>>1483350
>>1483371
>It wasn't a death threat, but it was a death threat
Fascists not sending their best along with them still trying to smear the latest innocent American they murdered in cold blood

>>1483401
was he protesting or was he physically getting in the way of someone?

>>1483410
>>1483412
You don't have an argument.

>>1483412
You aren't even an American vatnik, also you're going straight to hell for your sins.
The real question is what circle are you going to be condemned too.

>>1483405
>Says this when twitter, one of the biggest propaganda centers for the far right wing fascists, just community noted trump's puppet at the FBI.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kash-patel-claim-community-note_n_69771ea3e4b084f2a18ee16c

>>1483420
>the videos are clear and widely disseminated by now you can't hide the truth
You're right, you can't.

>>1483065
This is why nothing gets done.

Walz absoLUTELY should be investigated for Fraud, but that's separate from the fact that ICE shouldn't be goose-stepping down the streets beating up and shooting anyone who gets within arms reach. These are two separate wrongs that don't go anywhere to making a right.

ICE shouldn't even need boots on the ground if local authorities were doing their job and deploying riot police. They're supposed to be office jockeys who notice slight differences in forged IDs. They're only there because the concept of Sanctuary States is extremely undemocratic. Importing a new voter base who gives you bribes isn't democratic any more than marching boots through the streets, pushing over old ladies and shooting the person trying to help her, is. In the end, nobody has democracy. It's just babies looking for reasons to escalate a bad situation into an even worse one.

>ivan vatnik
I wish I could meet this person who gets to live rent free in this housing market.

Wake me up when ICE gets busy in Miami, which is 56% immigrants ... the highest percentage in the nation. Let me know when they start banging in Trump's back yard in a red state.

>>1483430
They were protected because the mayor was a Republican, but now he's been replaced by a Democrat you may end up getting your wish since most of this is political targeting, anyway.

>>1483420
>More lies
Nice try Vatnik

>>1483424
>Look at this massive strawman to distract from the fascist paramilitary group beholden to Stephen miller who are murdering innocent Americans
No.
The only people who should be prosecuted are everyone in ICE for the crimes against the American people.

>>1483192
>Texas isn't in open rebellion
Neither was Miami, but Republicans there still voted for a Democrat mayor late last year so you tell me.
You can answer that question after the midterms, so no pressure. I'm feeling generous, time-wise.

>>1483455
I love how this is the best distraction they can come up with. As if anyone fucking cares about fraud when the government is disappearing people, kicking down doors, kidnapping children, and murdering people in the streets.

Trump is ordering the executions to distract from his child rape scandal.

>>1483065
>and public assistance data
I wonder why Walz is freaking out about this.
>to scrap all "sanctuary" policies and "cooperate fully" with Immigration and Customs Enforcement
If you want ICE to stop doing raids, then this is what you do. My state had 26,000 people deported in 2025 - aint no ICE in the streets doing raids because they just go pick them up from the police.

>>1483475
Trump is freaking out about the release of the Epstein Files because he’s a pedo

>>1483475
Literally why would ICE's presence no longer be nessasary if they handed over their voter rolls anon?

>>1483385
>Now am I supporting this guy?
You voted him into power and Trump will never get rid of his sycophants because it will make him look weak. Congratulations, you fucking played yourself. The 2nd amendment is dead under the Trump admin.

>>1483483
>You voted him into power
Except Kash doesn't have that power to decide who does and doesn't get to legally carry. Nice try.

>Congratulations, you fucking played yourself. The 2nd amendment is dead under the Trump admin.
Actually gun rights have been expanded under Trump. Thanks to him we no longer have to pay anything for tax stamps when buying suppressors, SBRs, full-auto, etc.

But please keep seething and crying about the 2A you never cared about because another left-wing retard thought it would be a good idea to fight with police while carrying a gun - Something Republicans have never advocated for, so your hypocrisy claim is null and void like your bank account.

>>1483493
>Except Kash doesn't have that power to decide who does and doesn't get to legally carry
He's the head of the FBI lmao. The Feds can now legitimately detain and even kill you for carrying at protests.

>Actually gun rights have been expanded under Trump. Thanks to him we no longer have to pay anything for tax stamps when buying suppressors, SBRs, full-auto, etc.
You're not allowed to bear arms at protests anymore.

>>1483495
>He's the head of the FBI lmao.
I wasn't aware the FBI made gun laws. When did that happen?
>The Feds can now legitimately detain
Which they always could
>and even kill you for carrying at protests.
You left out the resisting arrest while carrying part.

>You're not allowed to bear arms at protests anymore.
According to who? Kash? He has no authority to make that call anymore than the Secretary of the Navy. I guarantee if he starts arresting people for carrying in public he'll get drowned in lawsuits.

Which brings me to a related point: You dumbasses keep bringing this on yourselves because you never learned to fight your battles in court and not in the streets.

>>1483496
>You left out the resisting arrest while carrying part.
Yeah that's not even what they're saying. FBI and DHS are saying, point blank, that carrying a gun at a protest is grounds for arrest in the first place.

>I guarantee if he starts arresting people for carrying in public he'll get drowned in lawsuits.
ICE literally just murdered someone for carrying in public.

Oh and you know who else is saying carrying at protest is now illegal? TRUMP HIMSELF.

>>1483498
>Yeah that's not even what they're saying.
And the part you're not listening to is they have no authority to make that claim.
>FBI and DHS are saying, point blank,
Ah ah! So far you've only showed Kash Patel from the FBI making this claim. Show me where DHS said the same thing.

>ICE literally just murdered someone for carrying in public.
And resisting arrest, fighting with cops, reaching for his pistol, etc. etc.
>b-but they already took it!
Cops don't know that. You reach, you get shot. If he actually was a licensed concealed carrier then I'm pretty sure he learned about how he's supposed to de-escalate situations - the thing he DIDN'T DO AT ALL - and avoid conflict.

>Oh and you know who else is saying carrying at protest is now illegal? TRUMP HIMSELF.
Show me the quote.

>>1483500
>Show me where DHS said the same thing.
>https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-shooting-dhs-has-claimed-its-unlawful-protesters-carry-guneven-legal-permit

>And resisting arrest, fighting with cops, reaching for his pistol, etc. etc.
All of which he didn't do. We have video anon.

>Show me the quote.
>But I don’t like it when somebody goes into a protest and he’s got a very powerful, fully loaded gun with two magazines loaded up with bullets also. That doesn’t play good either.
>https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-administration-is-reviewing-everything-about-minneapolis-shooting-a501f48e

>>1483502
>>https://www.fox9.com/news/minneapolis-shooting-dhs-has-claimed-its-unlawful-protesters-carry-guneven-legal-permit
So showing me the same Fox video where DHS did NOT say it was illegal to carry? Bold strategy.

>All of which he didn't do. We have video anon.
Where we can clearly see him resisting arrest to the point it took five ICE officers to try and hold him down. Yeah good job de-escalating there.

And oh look another quote where someone you claimed said X isn't saying X. Protip: saying I don't like it when someone does X is not the same thing as saying you are not allowed to do X.

Try again.

>>1483091
Nah.

>>1483070
See, this is why the Confederacy was right. If they'll do it to them, they'll do it to you. Just because of the particulars people ignore that States Rights was and is an important issue, until of course it becomes one for them. Fucking retards can't see five feet ahead of them. There's no such thing as the easy way, and anybody looking for one will end up at a Donner Party, in time. Then they accuse their illusory opponents of just that, only to turn around and do it themselves. If only we were as quick to point out the faults in our own as in the faults of others.
The ATF and ICE can go to hell together. """The Law""" is wrong, and it isn't ours, and we all know it. If they don’t follow they’re own law, why should you? Better phrased, because I know who I’m really talking to: If you don’t follow your own law, why should we? The law is a joke now, people don’t trust the police and they never will again, and relations between the .gov and the people, which are utterly divorced from eachother and have been for generations, will from now until collapse be antagonistic. You set yourselves up as kings, but like the low blooded dogs you are, you couldn’t keep it up for even a hundred years. The only things keeping you afloat are food and porn, and watch as those vanish to your gluttony and vain persecution.

>>1483509
Literally Trump judges in conservative courts across the country tried to prove election fraud and could find none. Trump has explored every single opportunity to show election. Fraud. All they have found it’s Tina Peter type Trump loyalists trying to steal the election. They could provide proof of democrats stealing any election anywhere. Even now controlling the DOJ and the Supreme Court. They have found no evidence that Trump was robbed. They haven’t been able to get a single judge to throw away their career for favor from the authoritarian.

>>1483504
>So showing me the same Fox video where DHS did NOT say it was illegal to carry? Bold strategy.
>The man had a legal permit to carry a firearm, according to Minneapolis Police, but DHS has argued it is "unlawful" for protesters to bring a firearm to a demonstration.
>"If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you."

>Where we can clearly see him resisting arrest to the point it took five ICE officers to try and hold him down.
Those five ICE agents were on him the moment he got peppersprayed in the face for trying to help another person they sprayed. He literally got pinned by all five of them without a single order, who then started beating the shit out of him for having the audacity to writhe from the pepperspray in his face.

>>1483513
Nah. I know full well all those "cases" were dismissed on procedural grounds before ever getting to discovery. No evidence was ever heard and only after the stolen election was ratified did deep red areas conduct audits. With a few blue strongholds conducting recounts and trying to pass those off as audits.

>>1483520
>No evidence was ever heard
Because they didn't even have any. It got dismissed because the judge asked them "Do you have evidence of this claim" and they responded with "Well no, but-"

>>1483458
>Just ignore the trump regime's corruption
No

>>1483525
Wtongo. It got dismissed because "Well, the election hasn't been ratified yet so no harm has been done." To "Well, we can't do anything about it because we don't have the authority to overturn a fraudulently ratified election."

Go protest ICE, shitlib.

>>1483531

> Go protest ICE, shitlib.

That's how you're insulting people? Just tacitly admitting they'll just kill people you don't like? "Go do something I don't have the intelligence to see as necessary or the balls to do you pussy! Go oppose fascists for both of our rights, you piece of shit."

How do you people even dress yourselves?

>>1483514
>>So showing me the same Fox video where DHS did NOT say it was illegal to carry? Bold strategy.
>>The man had a legal permit to carry a firearm, according to Minneapolis Police, but DHS has argued it is "unlawful" for protesters to bring a firearm to a demonstration.
>>"If you approach law enforcement with a gun, there is a high likelihood they will be legally justified in shooting you."
Notice how you still can't show anyone saying "You are not allowed to have a gun at a protest." ?

>Those five ICE agents were on him the moment he got peppersprayed in the face for trying to help another person they sprayed.
In the interest of not getting distracted with too many details, I'll address his resisting arrest AFTER you acknowledge that you lied about DHS and Trump saying guns are banned at protests.

>>1483537
>but DHS has argued it is "unlawful" for protesters to bring a firearm to a demonstration.

>>1483540
Still waiting on an actual quote, name, video timestamp, anything at this point beyond
>durr fawks news said so and they're reliable now
Imagine a left-winger using Fox of all goddamn sources to prove a point. I don't even use Fox, as far-right as I am.

But I digress. Show me an actual quote that proves they said that.

>>1483542
>https://youtu.be/lh4zAy923q4?t=171
>"You shouldn't show up with weapons."

>>1483543
Apparently I'm talking to a complete retard. Saying you shouldn't show up with weapons is not the same thing as you cannot show up with weapons.

Let me try another way to explain this to you: I don't think democrats should have the right to exist, BUT legally they're allowed to. Me saying they shouldn't exist is not me saying they can't exist - and even if I did, much like Kash Patel on guns, I have no authority to make that happen.

Now either find me an actual quote by DHS (and Trump) saying people cannot carry at protests, or admit you were wrong.

>>1483550
Russian trolls don’t get free elections, Putin fucks your wives and daughters if he so wishes. No wonder you want the same for citizens of the USA

>>1483552
That's not fair. He could be from North Korea or Hungary (admittedly also places where you have to let your dictator fuck your wives and daughters)

>>1483352
>Be illegal
>Not a citizen, does not have rights
>Bitch and whine when people actually treat you like a non-citizen who has no rights
>Other people bitch and whine about it on the internet
Working as intended. If you're not European diaspora you need to leave. You deserve whatever you get, simple as. If you're a citizen and you don't agree with that, you also need to leave, and you deserve whatever you get too.

>>1483583
Illegals have some rights, namely due process. If they don't have any rights, then it introduces a loophole where a lazy, incompetent, or malicious government official can declare a citizen illegal, then ship them off to alligator alcatraz to fill some quota. There would be no means to correct this, as there would be no requirement to prove that the individual is an illegal or give them their day in court. Once accused of being an illegal, they could do anything to you, up to shooting you in the back of the head, because again, no rights.

>>1483534
Dance the Walz waltz. Dare to be stupid. Fuck with armed feds doing their duty. You refuse to learn until after you're nothing but refuse. So go learn.

>>1483632
Exactly the leftist suicidal empathy I was talking about. Why don't you join all the illegals in the camps? You better move far away, because America under Trump will conquer everything in this half of Terra.

>>1483587
He's being ironic. American jews are all European.

>>1483632
What about due process when they enter the country illegally?
It seems strange to have no due process on the front end when they are let in, but requiring it on the back end when they are sent out.

>>1483647
Again, it's not about the illegals, it's about protecting citizens. They get some rights, or none of us do.

>>1483651
You're retarded. I was explaining the joke.

>>1483653
The only people who have to worry or not whites. It should be clear just looking at someone who is a citizen and has rights and who is not.

>>1483641
lol can you imagine your last words being "are you okay?" What fucking soiboy cringe. Suicidal empathy is a disease that needs to be eradicated everywhere. Men are natural born killers not carebears.

>>1483653
Okay so how does that work?
How does giving illegals more due process protect citizens?
Can't citizens just show their passport, show their birth certificate was American and be done with it?

>>1483656
>Self deport
He better not be Canadian, Mexican, or European, because America is going to be bombing and looting them soon. America has been taken advantage of for decades and now it is time to take everything back with interest. America's national renewel will grow in the garden of the corpses of the leftist globohomo order.

>>1483664
>Can't citizens just show their passport, show their birth certificate was American and be done with it?
Who the fuck keeps their passport and birth certificate on them at all times?

>>1483668
I keep my passport on me at all times when I am travelling.
A U.S. Enhanced Driver's License (EDL) is a secure, state-issued card that proves both your identity and U.S. citizenship. Do you not have a Driver's license in your pocket when you're behind the wheel?

>>1483672
So we're under a fascist state then. You're admitting that? You realize "keep your birth certificate proving you're not one of Them or police will kill you" really doesn't help your case?

>>1483664
>Can't citizens just show their passport, show their birth certificate was American and be done with it?
No, because that falls under due process. Without due process, there is no obligation to collect evidence and no mechanisms to prove your innocence. Like they could literally ignore it, or just say it's fake and that'd be that. Again, due process means the government has to prove you are what they say you are before depriving you of rights.

>>1483675
>So we're under a fascist state then.
Absolutely. This is what I voted for. Weimar problems need Weimar solutions.

>>1483677
Don't need due process. ICE can give you a look over and tell if you is a citizen or not. It's the same way that it works in Russia, Hungary, or Belarus. It is easy to tell who belong and who does not.

>>1483677
Where does the US Citizen get the benefit of due process?
So ICE agents stop someone and ask for their papers
1. This person is a legal US Citizen. They can present an enhanced driver's license when they are pulled over, or a passport if they are traveling. ICE checks the document, confirms the person is legal and moves on.
2. This person is not a legal US Citizen. ICE is asking for documents that they cannot provide because they aren't legal. Due process makes sure they have a day in court before deportation.
Where does due process come in for the Americans?
>Like they could literally ignore it, or just say it's fake and that'd be that.
Do you think due process just means the cops cannot lie and say your documents are fake when they are genuine?

>>1483681
>American problems need the worst indian-inspired austrian solutions
non-Americans aren't allowed to vote, ESL shill

>>1483672
>Comply or die is the new order of the day
'Your papers, please' is what the authority-givers of collaborators said to citizens in France: up to a certain time just after D-Day.
The sight of Sherman tanks & Jeeps in the distance basically said to the viewers through binoculars 'Your non-existence, please'. Said viewers immediately deported themselves from the country they never had the right to exist in the first place, if they had any sense. The French citizens then said to collaborators 'Your life, please'.
After an orange fuhrer experiences its own 'Downfall', why shouldn't those who rebelled be tyrannical against ICE and their glazers just as French citizens were to collaborators after D-Day? Think about the future.

>>1483687
I remember being asked for my vaccination papers to enter buildings in 2021 and 2022. Were you ever asked for your COVID papers?

>>1483684
>Do you think due process just means the cops cannot lie and say your documents are fake when they are genuine?
Literally yes, or they can lie, but the trial would prove your innocence. Again, due process means that they must prove you are what they accuse you of in a court of law. Without due process, they can just ignore any evidence that contradicts their claims and charge you without trial.

>>1483688
>To enter buildings
Not to not get arrested though, huh?

>>1483687
>Think about the future.
They are. That's why anons mask up.

>>1483691
>admits they're not an American citizen and can't vote
lmao, who cares about your opinion?
Shut the fuck up, Americans are talking

>>1483721
>We
Bro thinks Donald is sharing power with him.

>>1483731
What liberals don't understand is we're comfortable with state-sanctioned violence. Take the recent protests in my native country, Iran. The regime was justified in murdering protestors, because those protestors stood against the theocracy, and therefore against Allah himself. Now, I obviously disapprove of many of Trump's actions against Iran, but he is another faithful man of the book, and stands for conservative, anti-liberal values. I'd rather he be in charge than an atheist alternative. As such, I recognize his right to murder whomever he sees as a threat.

>>1483692
>m7
Hello there again, gay illiterate shill dope that spams 4chan. Dream of having mates, m8? You'll find some in >>>/lgbt/.

>>1483734
>Take the recent protests in my native country, Iran. The regime was justified in murdering protestors, because those protestors stood against the theocracy, and therefore against Allah himself
You mean the ones Trump condemned?

>>1483731
Bro self identifies as a useful idiot for fascists. fucking new levels of cucker yet undiscovered by science.

>>1483743
Condemned, but did nothing to stop.

My point remains: the faithless masses will always stand against the enforcement of God's will (we share the same God, only differing on Jesus's role as prophet or Messiah and the role of Mohammad). We enforce a monoethnic, monoreligous state based on God's law, which I believe you want as well. By banning abortions, pushing prayer in school, and elevating the role of the church in the state, Trump shows himself to be a kindred spirit.

Do not be ashamed of the violence in the street. The book of Joshua in your Bible shows that God's will is often enforced with blood. Instead, look to us as an example of what you aspire to.

1483692
>gay
1483738
>pole
>>>/lgbt/

>>1483734
>faithful man of the book
>worshiped by cultists more than the Jewish god: 'INRI' above a Jew, thus an orange thing breaking the first of the Big 10
>breaks another of the Big 10: Adultery
>breaks another of the Big 10: Lying
>is a hypocrite: Matthew 23, and Jesus hates hypocrites, thus they are hellbound
>Matthew 19: unless he sells that $26,000 Vacheron Constantin watch, along with all his other possessions (PROTIP: Pope Leo XIV has a $480 Wenger watch: and Pope Francis just had a $15 Casio; a more expensive Swatch he had was auctioned and the money raised went to charity) and gives the money to the poor, and the money for that ballroom is instead used to build affordable housing, he won't be allowed to follow Jesus and enter the Kingdom of God
Gee, I wonder why Trump worries about IF he'll go to Heaven?
As rightard Christains as(s)pire to violence, they prove that they're inferior to those in secular countries. Oh, and for an encore:
'I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature'
'There is more need for lighthouses in our country than churches.'
'But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.'
'Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear'
'Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man'
'I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology.'
-Thomas Jefferson
Thus USA is a secular country, created to be so by the Founding Fathers. Point out in the US Constitution where it mentions verbatim 'God', Jesus' and 'Creator'. I'll wait.
You're not American if you so much as think otherwise.
Religion doesn't have the right to exist in the governments of superior, secular civilized countries.

>>1483764
>Condemned, but did nothing to stop.
The ones he said he'd start bombing if they continued?

Also way to out yourself as an extremist psychopath.

>>1483641
>we got a tough guy over here

>>1483691
Funny because all the fraud of voting for dead people came from republicans

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/minnesota/news/minnesota-woman-dead-mother-ballot-vote-trump-2024/

>>1484032
the mandazi? it's nothing to write home about

>>1483424
reasonable take
>>1483632
>>1483677
>>1483690
truth. I don't know why people find this so hard to understand. Fuckers will burn through the whole constitution to fix immigration, even when there are way simpler and sensible ways of doing it (i.e., fixing our broken-ass asylum system). Only brainlets think ditching due process is a reasonable reaction to this horseshit.

>>1484052
No one's ditched due process. Not everyone is due the same amount of process. Illegals are due very little process.

Immigrants have the right to due process via the 5th & 14th Amendments, and 1484070's & Trump's opinions are wrong.

>>1483258
The government doesn't own Facebook. The government doesn't control who companies hire and fire. Boo hoo, Biden asked Facebook to takedown covid vaccine info. All your reasons are bullshit. Just know that we can all see you trump faggots are retarded. You've knowingly backed a madman pedophile and you're going to jump through hoops mentally trying not to realize this. Just rip the bandaid off. You'll feel better.

>>1484137
If what Biden did asking for Facebook to take down COVID vaccine info was legal and therefore justified, what would you say to people who say everything Donald Trump did with ICE was legal and therefore justified?

>>1484137
the govt can't coerce private companies to censor speech. but you already knew that, commie.

>>1484137
>Boo hoo, Biden asked Facebook to takedown covid vaccine info.
Bootlicker.

>>1484152
>Guys Biden sending a request to a social media site to take down misinfo is basically the exact same as Trump sending mass groups of anonymous death squads that have directly murdered two people after states he doesn't like

>>1484157
>all he did was send a request to delete a bad post
>all she did was lose a few emails
I love how you people always downplay what your side does and then magnify everything Trump does by a thousand. I wish there were death squads in Minisomalia.

>>1484162
They've murdered two people you retard.

>>1484152
>If what Biden did asking for Facebook to take down COVID vaccine info was legal and therefore justified, what would you say to people who say everything Donald Trump did with ICE was legal and therefore justified?

I'd say, "Holy flaming mother of nonsequitur batman, how the fuck can someone conflate a president trying to contain a global pandemic and stop objectively false and deadly misinformation with a fascist dictator's gestapo arresting and brutalized American citizens and deporting non-violent immigrants, some of whom are literally at the courthouse to try and be here legally? Anyone who would do that is a titan among imbeciles."

>>1484165
oh no not the hecken communist agitators! not my wholesome chungus terrorinos!!!!

>>1484165
No they shot two retards you retard. A death squad would be opening fire on crowds of you dumb fucks right now. Not waiting for one of your lesser minions to drive a car at them.

I will fucking pay double in taxes if they start acting like a real death squad and line you fucks up in the street. Unfortunately, Trump isn't even half the dictator you faggot claim he is.

>>1484169
>See, Biden asking for some of my facebook vaccine bullshit posts to be taken down is horrible
>Trump being directly responsible for two murders and hundreds of cases of brutality by law enforcement is fine because I don't consider them people

>>1484167
The difference is one has the right to do so and the other doesn't. And in case that isn't spelled out simply enough for you, Biden didn't have to the right to infringe on the 1st amendment.

>>1484176
>Asking for facebook to delete posts that go against their own guidelines is violating the 1st amendment
>Literally murdering protestors isn't

>>1484174
And the laptop. Don't forget the laptop!

>>1484174
>whataboutisms because you can't defend the fact that biden violated the 1A of millions of people

>>1484184
Your literal entire argument was using this as a whataboutism to Trump's ICE murdering two people. No one gives a fuck about your covid era complaints.

>>1484184
I think it's funny you say this when Trump has literally set up tiktok right now to block literally any critique of his admin or even mentions of jeffery epstein. Where does that fall under in your mindset?

>>1484186
did you even read your link? this pertains to defamation
>>1484189
i haven't seen any evidence that the government is censoring speech on tik tok. but if that is happening, it's wrong of course.

>>1484194
it's not even relevant. it's like you googled random words and posted the first thing you found without reading it.

>>1484185
Not murder. Justified shootings.

>>1484192
>i haven't seen any evidence that the government is censoring speech on tik tok
>https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/why-people-saying-tiktok-censoring-192200339.html

>>1484206
>The reason? Her multiple attempts to upload a video denouncing the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s violent actions—including the fatal shooting of 37-year-old Alex Pretti—were seemingly shadowbanned.
Is this because of Trump or because TikTok doesn't want shootings and death videos per their own TOS?

>>1484208
It wasn't a video of the shooting. Literally any video mentioning any current politics, ICE, or Jeffery Epstein is shadowblocked and the only way to see them is going on the poster's page.

>>1484210
Funny how they'll ban nothing praising Trump though.

>>1484208
Clearly it's because of trump's censorship

>>1484210
>I haven’t used the app in 6 years
Charlie Kirk started on TikTok. Almost every major news source is on there

>>1484206
So... where's the evidence that there's government intervention? If anythung it sounds more like tik tok has a content moderation bias.

>>1484245
Have you not paid attention to the entire saga around Tiktok this last year? Trump literally dictated who got to operate the site.

>>1484247
>Uh there's no government intervention
>Ok well it's better OUR government is doing the censorship and not CHINA

>>1484248
This one over here officer.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fleeing-tiktokers-claim-maga-makeover-is-silencing-them/
And it's confirmed it's state censorship implemented by trump regime allies

The tendrils of censorship from the trump regime extend to other outlets as well.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-pal-mark-zuckerberg-censoring-site-that-names-ice-border-patrol-goons/

>>1484246
>>1484257
Tiktok is operated by an independent venture. Whatever moderation they're doing isn't being dictated by the government.

>>1484262
>independent venture
...decided on by Trump on pain of being blocked from the US completely otherwise.

>>1484270
Isn't that what democrats did since.. forever?
Remember COVID?

>>1484272
When did dems threaten to ban facebook if they didn't get to decide who it was sold to?

>>1484247
China is more interested in censoring and monitoring their people than doing that to us.
I would rather hand deliver my social security number and credit card to Winnie the Pooh in a red envelope before giving it to the US government

>>1483065
how much do they pay you redditors to shit up this site with slop propaganda that only works on women and sois?

>>1484291
As opposed to you, a fascist retard for free.

>>1484270
moderation enacted by a private company isn't censorship unless people in the administration are imposing orders on the company.

but it is funny that you're mad about trump censoring tiktok despite there being no evidence of that, while giving biden a pass for censoring twitter and facebook, despite there being an abundance of evidence for that. you're a shameless hypocrite

>>1484298
So fucking transparent. Biden didn’t order those companies to take down posts. They requested that they take them down because it was covid misinformation that could kill people with stupid lies. But none of those companies received any consequences for refusing to take down posts.

Trump has sued media companies for millions. He has used the fcc to attack companies that speak out against him. His friend, supporter, and loyalist bought twitter to suppress speech against him. His other friend, supporter, and loyalist bought TikTok, and immediately censored speech. Yet another friend, supporter and loyalist bought cnn to suppress speech. On and on they have bought media companies to silence all voices of dissent.

But yea, Biden evil and wrong. Trump innocent and good.

Lick authoritarian boots and die of covid, like a good MAGA cultist.

>>1484311
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences
lol
haha
AHAHAHA

>>1484312
You just regurgitate buzzwords huh?

>>1484312
Are you prepared for the consequences for the way you live?

>>1484311
>Admissions from Zuckerberg: In a 2024 letter to the House Judiciary Committee, Zuckerberg stated that senior Biden administration officials, including from the White House, "repeatedly pressured" Meta teams for months in 2021 to censor specific COVID-19 content, including humor and satire. He later described on the Joe Rogan podcast how officials would "scream" and "curse" at Facebook staff over content removal requests, calling it "something out of 1984."

>Broader Pressure on Platforms: Released emails and congressional reports show the administration coordinated with Facebook, Twitter, and others to flag and remove content it deemed problematic, such as vaccine skepticism or election-related claims.

>Google also admitted to congressional investigators that it faced pressure from the Biden administration to censor content, leading to account bans for political speech, though it later promised to end such practices

>>1484320
Well if Zuckerberg said it, it must be true right? Fuck off. Lick those billionaire boots. I always take billionaires word for the terrible victims they are. How do these billionaires make it through the day with everyone being so mean to them? Zuck is a liar and a ghoul who bows to Trump and is building AI data centers that ruin the USA. He famously has lied over and over. But tell me more about what. Zuck said.

>>1484316
You won't do shit, pussy. Enjoy more losses in the future.

>>1484350
Zuckerberg, Google, and Twitter all admitted to it. Under oath. Meanwhile, there's no evidence that Trump is censoring TikTok. Face it, you're a hypocritical tranny that doesn't actually believe in the 1A.

>>1483099
They are dipshit. You just don't hear about it because it's in a republican state. Texas doesn't let commies harass and interfere with ICE operations.

>>1484377
Yes and under oath they said they were asked and received no repercussions. He did not say under oath that his people were yelled at or threatened. You are a liar and a weird dude who thinks about trans people a lot. That fact that your go to insult is to call people trans shows how rent free that whole situation is in your head. Do you go to sleep thinking about it?

>>1484457
Wrong, zuck felt coerced and biden threatened to smell his children. Also women can't be men and men can't get pregnant

>>1484377
>there's no evidence that Trump is censoring TikTok
He literally decided what company it got sold to and immediately after that was done these changes were made.

>>1484574
where did trump dictate their moderation policy?