“Specifically, I’m told there is extreme frustration with DHS officials going on TV and putting out statements claiming that Alex Pretti was intending to conduct a ‘massacre’ of federal agents or wanted to carry out ‘maximum damage’, even after numerous videos appeared to show those claims were inaccurate,” Melugin posted.

“These sources say this messaging from DHS officials has been catastrophic from a PR and morale perspective, as it is eroding trust and credibility.”

>Melugin said one of his sources claimed DHS’ response to the tragedy is “making the situation worse,” while another said “we are losing this war, we are losing the base and the narrative.”

They also complained that ICE was being blamed for the actions of Border Patrol, which is a different agency within Homeland Security that is not usually used for immigration enforcement in the country’s interior.

The Daily Beast has contacted the DHS and the White House for comment.

>we know exactly their comments
>we contacted them for comment and didn't receive a response
Pretti violently resisted arrest and the arresting officers believed they were at risk for grevious bodily harm, which is the legally required standard for use of deadly force. The fact that in the retrospective totality that deadly force was not necessary does not invalidate the officer's perception of the situation at the time of action.
>https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/471/1/ Grahamn v. Connor
>https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-1239_onjq.pdf
Sustained in Barnes v. Felix which added only that knowledge of the situation extends to knowledge prior to the moment of using deadly force.

>>1483610
>Pretti violently resisted arrest
How so?

>>1483610

Literally just go watch the video.

Fuck you fascist pedophile enabling piece of human trash.

>>1483610
You are wildly misquoting these rulings. What these cases show is that law enforcement does not have a lower bar to justify self defense. In fact they have a higher bar. None of which was met during the murder of this citizen. I know in Russia you have no right to carry a weapon. The police there can kill you for simply having it. But in America we say fuck that and fuck you fascists who want that. I voted for Trump. But fuck your fascist desire to let law enforcement kill because they were scared. I have been in law enforcement for 23 years. One of the first things you are trained on is trigger discipline. None of these scared pussies showed any trigger discipline.

You can take your bullshit misinterpretation of previous shootings and shove them up your Putin loving asshole.

>>1483620
>A sig p320 discharged
If it did, it was because ICE is so fucking incompetent they can't even safely handled seized weapons.

>>1483618
So what does Qualified Immunity mean?

>>1483624
>The agent slipped on ice. You can see it in every angle.
No he fucking didn't lmao.

BTW, the gun going off still doesn't justify magdumping him seeing as the guy who did literally had a view of the gun being taken away. He shot a disarmed man 10 times.

>>1483618
These rulings outline the limits between good shoot vs bad shoot. These cases draw that line. In case law it does not matter what the outcome of the specific case. What matters is where the judges draw the line for what cops must do and know and what they must not do or know.

The two prong test is:
>an officer must have probable cause to believe that the fleeing suspect is dangerous,
>the use of deadly force must be necessary to effect the seizure.
Barnes v. Felix is a SCOTUS case where you have analysis and opinions from SCOTUS judges where they confirm support for existing case law or invalidate old case law and create a new standard. They are telling you the most current rules of when cops may use deadly force. Read.

>>1483563
>ICE staffers ask "are we the bad guys?"

>>1483633
Yeah you realize even with Sig's defects, their guns don't go off unless the slide and trigger is touched. Meaning he was still mishandling it even if we accept your "he was sliding!" theory as true.

By the way, even the idea of the gun going off is still debatable. No clear angle shows it actually being discharged.

>>1483634
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/americas/canada-covid-19-lockdown-arrests
Do you think the cops arresting and fining people for having Thanksgiving knew they were baddies?

>>1483646
>It clearly goes off.
>No muzzle flare
>No smoke
>Frame where the slide is "clearly" off is literally the blurriest one in the whole video
If anything this leans more towards that it didn't fucking go off.

>>1483648
Stop dodging the question
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-58638752
Do you think the cops who were arresting people for smuggling KFC into locked down neighbourhoods realized that they were the baddies?
That they were the long arm of the law that wanted to define how far you were allowed to stay from each other, whether or not you were allowed to visit your parents funeral, or if your business was allowed to operate or was forced into bankruptcy.

>>1483646
nta, but is that reality where ICE agents are scared pussies who decide to magdump someone disarmed and under control after they misfire a legally carried pistol?

>>1483643
>>1483657
Did they kill anyone?

>>1483666
That story was from September 2021
I can find lockdown stories from 2022 if you would like.

>>1483665
Yes, police officers enforcing COVID rules during 2020, 2021 and 2022 killed people.

>>1483669
Is it 2022 now?

Nothing will ever happen because of the standing army that protects the politicians-cops. Then the other standing armies such as The National Guard and The Army and Air Force will domination and murder ANY American who tries to do the right thing.

It's over. Satan wins again.

>>1483689
How? Did they shoot anyone, or are you gonna argue that somehow COVID deaths are on their hands?

*dominate
And the GOP loves it!
>Govern me harder, daddy!

And remember, these are the "good ol' days."
It'll get so much worse.

>>1483563
lmao they even lost Rittenhouse.
>https://x.com/rittenhouse2a/status/2015839135039184962

>>1483707
Retard is realizing he can't agree with the Trump admin or he's basically calling himself a terrorist.

Not really seeing the problem for them. They just need to fire the agents that take issue with it and ask new hires whether they support the killing.

This is a great filter to create the type of force they're looking for.

>>1483618
>I voted for Trump. But fuck your fascist desire to let law enforcement kill because they were scared.
Trump's the one letting them get away with it, lmao. You're getting what you voted for. Quit bitching.

Seriously, what the fuck did you think a mass immigration crackdown would look like? This is the thing Trump has been promising since he fucking rode down that escalator, a massive influx of new agents and loosened rules of engagement thrown into blue cities and states to root out anyone that might be illegal, resistance be damned.

>>1483718
Don't the get most of their recruits from militias and /pol/?

>>1483723
Its not an immigration crackdown though, they're ignoring all the factory and farm workers for Republican donors.
These are terror raids to demoralize illegals republicunts are employing to prevent them from taking non-slavery jobs in the cities, and punishing blue states for not voting republicunt.
They gave up the latter when they said ICE would go away if MN provided voter rolls

>>1483723
There was just no way to see this coming. It's not like he tried to get the national guard to open fire on protesters during his first term.

>>1483728
What Americans actually want is this:
>Strict enforcement at the border
>The ability for some workers to get visas
>Deportation for criminals
>A pathway to citizenship for people who have been here a while

Murdering people in the streets doesn't address any of those, it just erodes your credibility in claiming you're deporting criminals.

>>1483733
>What Americans actually want is what Obama and Biden were doing
intradesting....

>>1483736
What Obama was doing at least. Biden really was senile and let the border go until a few months before the election. I say this as someone who wants much higher immigration levels, but the mismanagement at the border under Biden was unjust to immigrants (there should be an orderly process in place for people trying to enter the country).

In Biden's defence though, he pushed bills during his presidency that would swap stricter border enforcement for a path to citizenship... but a certain someone lobbied Republicans against it.

>>1483737
I said what Americans want, not what you want.

>Meanwhile, support for allowing undocumented immigrants to become U.S. citizens has risen to 78%, up from 70% last year. This is also back to the level of support seen in 2019 (81%) while slightly lower than in 2016 (84%). Approval is higher still, albeit statistically unchanged, for offering individuals brought to the U.S. illegally as children a pathway to citizenship, with support holding above 80%.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692522/surge-concern-immigration-abated.aspx

>>1483740
awww, stupid esl faggot, there's still hope
You too can come to america and be brutalized by the retards paying you to shitpost

>>1483736
Obama and Biden didn't have a pathway to citizenship for illegals.

Also, literally yes. Voters are fucking stupid and know jack shit about immigration policy. Fox tells boomers we've got an open border while the border isn't even letting regular traffic through for COVID and they believe it, not to mention muh caravans. Dipshits think illegals are on Medicare. If you poll the average voter on specific fucking policies, they're left of fucking Dem leadership, but if you poll them on whether or not we need stricter immigration enforcement, they say yes. They have no god damn idea how the world works, so they think we've got 30 million gang members living off government aid and vote accordingly.

You get the same abject stupidity on shit like healthcare.

>>1483742
>Be me
>Foreign shill
>Go to America
>Expect to be greeted by the Master Race (surely I'm one of them since I'm Slavik)
>Get tackled by ice
>Either shot in the back ten times or sent to Salvadorean prison where I'm beaten senseless and am never seen again

Loyalty to authoritarians is rarely reciprocated

>>1483736
Obama and Biden were allowing the grey area which is also bad. But in terms of handling deportations they were doing it correctly.

But for Trump it's not about immigration. It's about riling up the cult against a fake danger and it's about a show of force to get rid of the fake danger, to appear like he's doing something big and noble so they will excuse all the ugly shit he is involved in.

>>1483745
Unironically if meteors landed on Fox News's studios and Facebook's servers, the country would jump 18 points to the left in the next election.

>>1483745
>Obama and Biden didn't have a pathway to citizenship for illegals.

Because they would be accused of essentially buying votes and inflating their base. They should have done it anyway.

>>1483751
More like the people running DHS don't consider slavs (mongols) white.

>>1483752
They don't have the votes. It'd have to go through Congress and those cocksuckers have zero motivation to fix our immigration system.

>>1483748
It's just a game of identity. Economic factors don't matter nearly as much as feeling like a politician supports your identity group. The easiest way to prove you're on somebody's side is to beat/torture/kill the other side. That's why ICE is not hiding the fact they're targeting Hispanic and blacks. These threads are full of people celebrating this murder because the violence is the point, not a bug.

>>1483754
>They didn't have the votes
Correct. Republicans have had chance after chance to solve the problem with bills full of concessions. Problem is, if they solve the problem, they'll need to find a new Boogeyman other than immigrants.

>If enacted, the bill would have made it possible for many undocumented immigrants to gain legal status and eventually citizenship. It would have increased border security by adding up to 40,000 border patrol agents. It also would have advanced talent-based immigration through a points-based immigration system. New visas were proposed in this legislation, including a visa for entrepreneurs and a W visa for lower skilled workers.[6] It also proposed new restrictions on H1B visa program to prevent its abuse and additional visas/green-cards for students with science, technology, engineering, and mathematics (STEM) degrees from U.S. institutions. The bill also included a $1.5 billion youth jobs program and repealed the Diversity Visa Lottery in favor of prospective legal immigrants who are already in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Security,_Economic_Opportunity,_and_Immigration_Modernization_Act_of_2013

>>1483757
Worse. Race traitors.

>>1483759
Its weird that a non-American esl shill is pretending that two Americans are race traitors for upholding American ideals
Wait, no its not, you faggots have been jealous and seething for decades

>>1483755
>>1483754
I find your theories compelling but I'm not sure what is actually going on with respect to white supremacy in the minds of the MAGA coalition.
I guess, it's probably not a unified stance.

The Jews I understand, because Ellison and Miller and Weiss think of Ashkenazim as White++ so it's just white supremacy with Ashkenazim at the very top.

The Indians I guess are just hyper opportunists.

The Latinos and the other offwhites are just useful idiots who want to be white so bad, they think they are gonna prove themselves in the field.

The question is, do the MAGA masterminds consider their diversity a temporary embarrassment or something they are willing to tolerate in their white supremacist future?

Esl shill is larping as a white man again

>>1483761
I'm stating a position of others. I'm not agreeing with that position.

>>1483762
>Embarrassment or toleration
I'd say the latter. Sarah Paine, discussing nation states, says that nothing binds erstwhile enemies together like an external, existential threat. The US had actively tried to tip the Russian Civil War against the Soviets, and had a Red Scare to boot. But, as soon as Germany became a clear existential threat and the Germans invaded Russia, guns/supplies started flowing to the Soviets. Hell, even the Chinese nationalists and Communists mostly called a detente in face of the Japanese invasion.

There is a struggle within the conservative movement about how to answer these things. Just look at what's happening at the Heritage Foundation. There's a legitimate question whether there'll be a split between the groypers (anti-Israel/antisemitic) and pro-Israel traditionalists, but for now, I think the identity of a common enemy is stronger. I live in South Florida, and immigrant Donald voters are weirdly strongly in favor of strong anti-immigrant actions. Hispanic magas want fewer Haitians and Jamaicans, Vietnamese magas feel like their taxes are being wasted on black people. They're broadly against LGBT and abortion rights.Common enemies, therefore they're in the same coalition.

>>1483762
JD Vance standing up for the white Christian man ... by marrying a Hindu and raising Half-Indian kids. What? It's just plain weird. Especially because they also talk so much about wanting to safeguard white birth rates.
Or like the goon who murdered Good having a Filipino wife.
I mean, I'm fairly liberal and openminded and I would never want mixed race kids cause that's just not my identity. It's not that I believe other identities to be somehow inferior, but it would just be alien to me.
These MAGA dudes have no principles, not even about their racism.

>>1483769
Go on /gif/, and do you see racist pushback on videos of white men fucking nonwhite women, or nonwhite men fucking white women?

It's not actually about genetic purity. That's a post-hoc rationalization. It's about stating "my group (white or whitish men) should have exclusive rights".

>>1483730
>If you want our secret police to stop murdering your citizens, just let us know who voted for what party in your state
>we definitely wont use this to rig the next election
Its extortion, plain and simple. These murders will continue to happen because no one is willing to hold ICE accountable.

Federal agents are killing white people with impunity and conservatards clap and cheer calling it a good thing. 30 years ago you faggots would blow up a fucking building over this shit. Everything trump can get away with doing to these people, he will get away with doing to YOU.

>>1483563
lmao Greg Bovino and company are apparently due to leave Minnesota tomorrow. Even the Trump admin realized they're not winning this fight.

>>1483775
Dont forget to keep trumps microdick in your mouth while he kills your family anon. You fucking faggot

>>1483781
Some of them. But this is a sign they realized they severely miscalculated the backlash.

Not to mention this singlehandedly cost them the governorship of the state when Walz leaves seeing as it caused their primary candidate to leave the race out of disgust. At this point the GOP is likely calling him in fucking panic that he's annihilating their midterm chances like never before.

>>1483785
>https://nypost.com/2026/01/26/us-news/border-patrol-chief-greg-bovino-some-agents-pull-out-of-minneapolis-in-wake-of-alex-pretti-shooting/
Fresh off the presses. It's not the end, but it's a start. They know they no longer have the political clout to continue sending people now that even some republicans are demanding they leave.

>>1483783
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/republican-quits-minnesota-governor-race-criticizing-ice-surge-2026-01-26/

Thanks for the good news.
The only saving grace against MAGA is that they are legit dumb.
They cannot ever conceive of second order and third order effects.

>>1483787
You can actually see in real time as the GOP realizes they can't spin this and this is going to fuck them in mid-terms. Right wing influencers delete their posts, Trump starts using less directly inflammatory labels, and even their press conferences started shifting from "attempted terrorism" to "well democrats were agitating people and uh, we'll wait on the investigation".

This really fucked up their whole plan for Minnesota too. They wanted to use the whole fraud controversy to ensure Walz would be replaced a Republican and try to flip the state a bit. Now ICE has completely overtaken that controversy and ensured all Minnesota voters are gonna care about is who put the thugs that murdered two people on their streets. Their main candidate literally dropping out because even he found it unacceptable was just the final nail in the coffin.

>>1483787
>>1483790
The worst thing about all this is that it probably would have worked a decade ago, and definitely would have two decades ago
No one would have contradicted ICE's official stories on their murders unless there was video, and we've only reached the threshold that all of this is being constantly recorded recently
The surveillance state cutting both ways wasn't something I saw coming

>>1483623
Nobody can handle a loaded P320. It goes off if you breathe on it wrong.

>>1483640
>>1483624
>>1483620
Still doesn't justify magdumping him, whoever did it is going away for a long time. This is more cut and dry than Floyd was, and it was done to one of (((God's Chosen))). He's capital F Fucked.

>>1483792
>The surveillance state cutting both ways wasn't something I saw coming
I absolutely saw it coming, that's why they're trying to offload as much of it as possible to private companies like Palantir. They're also trying to undermine Google and Apple so they can remotely wipe videos at-will.

>>1483795
Greg Bovino and his buddies are a start. They're only not a branch of ICE on paper.

>>1483794
Almost this.
In reality, what happened was far worse than what started the Revolutionary War.
They started all physical contact with the man, then disarmed him illegally, then executed him shooting gallery style for the whole nation to see. Then lied about it and immediately started making further threats.

tldr; things r bad.

>>1483793
P320s main issues are small amounts of pressure on the slider and trigger occasionally trigger discharges. Neither of which should be grabbed if law enforcement is disarming someone, so it still stands that ICE's incompetence caused this.

I'm personally getting more and more turned off the theory the guy's gun even went off though. The "video proof" shows no smoke or muzzle flare from it going off and the only evidence is a very blurry shot being pointed to as evidence of the slide shooting backwards. ICE seemingly refusing to confirm if a round was spent even though they definitely have the gun just hurts it even more.

>>1483648
So the people shouldn't question if they were the baddies because 5 years passed?
I guess that means whatever ICE does today will be forgiven in 5 years when we are onto the next president and next political issue right?

>>1483745
I thought that is what he was trying to do though.
Obama was trying to make a pathway to citizenship for the DREAMers, which were a subset of illegal immigrants
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DREAM_Act
The DREAM Act would have provided a pathway to permanent residency for undocumented immigrants brought to the United States upon meeting certain qualifications
>During the first six years, qualifying people would be granted "conditional" status and would be required to (a) graduate from a two-year community college or (b) complete at least two years towards a four-year degree or (c) serve two years in the US military. After this six-year period, those who meet at least one of these three conditions would be eligible to apply for permanent resident status. During this six-year conditional period, they would not be eligible for federal higher education grants such as Pell grants but they would be able to apply for student loans and work study.[7]

>If they have met all of the conditions at the end of the 6-year conditional period, they would be granted permanent residency, which would eventually allow them to become U.S. citizens.[8]

>>1483634
The guy trump is sending in to 'control' the sitution cosplays as a Nazi, so yes.
BTW, he was caught taking bribes but trump killed the investigation so he's not only a nazi, but corrupt as fuck too.

>>1483806
given trump is already a mob boss who uses veiled threats to get what he wants, that level of corruption is entirely on brand.

>>1483620
Why must you still push this lie? There was no accidental discharge and Alex was an innocent bystander trying to help an innocent woman being assaulted.

>>1483813
Because otherwise they'd be outed as fascists bastards.
I have no idea why they think they can pull of not looking like that with all they're doing, but that's the plan. Chill guys, ICE is law enforcement, that means whatever they do is legal, right?

>>1483813
>was an innocent bystander
Dressed like an ICE agent, carrying a concealed firearm without a license, fighting with the feds while armed.

>>1483820
Why must you continue to blatantly lie? It only makes you look more like a psychopath like your fellow shill here >>1483820

>>1483820
>Dressed like an ICE agent
Yeah if anything this is more a problem that ICE dresses like paramilitary retards than anything else.
>carrying a concealed firearm without a license
It was licensed.
>fighting with the feds while armed.
They assaulted him. He never so much as swung at them.

>>1483822
>They assaulted him. He never so much as swung at them.

This. We're all in danger. They approached him, then assaulted him, then they illegally disarmed him, then executed him shooting gallery style for everyone to see. Then lied about it. And now they're making threats again. Such a functional government that totally deserves to hold power.

>>1483825
WARNING: sealioning in progress

>Act like fascist thugs
>Why don’t people like us? :’(
Kek fuck em

>>1483827
Ice favorability actually went up in light of them publicly executing commies in the street, according to recent yougov polling

>>1483850
>actually, american citizens love being murdered by terrorists larping as soldiers
wow, is that true esl shill?

>>1483864
>american citizens
Paid protestors and jews are not American citizens and neither are you, esl jeet

esl shill is about to have a meltdown and i only posted once? lol

>>1483865
True

>>1483867
He's projecting too, you struck a nerve

>>1483611
He literally pulled out a gun to shoot.

>>1483614
Yes, I saw it and Ice is right.

Democrats must admit that this is what they deserve.

Had an ICE officer over on /pol/ talking about what they are facing over in Minneapolis. He was a vet with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency ops before signing up with ICE - both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populations. He's seen organized resistance up close, from Anbar to Helmand. What he saw on his deployment to Minneapolis was familiar to him: spotters, cutouts, dead drops, disciplined comms, role specialization, and willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly. What's unfolding in Minneapolis right now is not a "protest." It's a low-level insurgency infrastructure funded by Soros and built by people who have clearly studied the playbook.

>>1483932
Even if ICE is lying, headshotting communists in the street is the moral thing to do.

>>1483929
>>1483932
>>1483934
>>1483936
>>1483937
when you lie this hard it only makes it more obvious that you're in the wrong

>>1483939
Headshotting commies is definitely not being in the wrong

>>1483941
is russia winning

>>1483942
Is russia communist or nah? You shills can't seem to make up your mind

Does Trump understand the existential nature of what is happening in Minnesota? It's maddening to watch. Either you crush these terrorist riots or you have no country. Invoke the Insurrection Act, arrest Watz, flatten Minneapolis and do it now. We need to make the world fear us again.

>>1483942
>sanctioned by whole world
>still beating Ukrainians who have backing of whole leftist world

>>1483948
>immediately starts sucking russian cock
LMAO. who's the communist again?

>>1483610
You sourced legal opinions, but not the video of the incident? Why not?

>>1483948
As I said on /pol/, relax. A slow tempo favors /ourguys/. This is siege warfare. Minnesota is favorable ground for ICE, it forces Antifa to deploy extended supply lines in teh cold in a small state. We want this to drag on for at leaast three months. It's a war of attrition, and one we will win this time unlike the War of Northern Aggression.

>>1483951
>siege warfare
>Antifa to deploy extended supply lines
>war of attrition
Where the fuck do you get the schizos get this shit?

>>1483737
I think you and him can have a good discussion on immigration policy, but can we agree gunning down white citizens in the streets isn’t what either of you want?

>>1483953
Idk but that anon is retarded. If trump had any balls at all most of Minnesota legislature would be in prison by now

>>1483953
NTA but ICEwatch's signal chat leaked. The Lt. Gov of Minnesota was supplying terrorist orgs with state-level intelligence to anarchist groups.
I'll create a thread for it if I find a good article.

>>1483958
So the latest made up shit by the trump regime to distract from the fact ICE is murdering innocent Americans in the streets and you're cheering it.

Can't wait for far right propaganda group you cite for it.

>>1483953
being mentally ill is a maga prerequisite, don't you remember Q

>>1483958
>He used a foreign owned power right wing propaganda outlet
>And they even used the usual buzzwords like communist too
LMAO.
So we know it was either faked or hacked by the US government, which would also be illegal.

>>1483936
I saw that Twitter screenshot post too bootlicker

>We’re winning!
>Noem about to lose her job, White House distancing from her statements, and the manlet Nazi larper just got ousted
Lololololololol

>>1483995
>manlet Nazi larper just got ousted
https://apnews.com/article/maine-platner-senate-trump-mills-tattoo-collins-fa8328a3c8aa5d5e0f34adb379e977b8
Oh man Platner dropped out?

>>1483929
There's a reason why people call you retards schizophrenic. You're constantly seeing shit that outright isn't there.

>>1484047
They've been posting AI edits all over /pol/ and twitter of him pulling a gun.

>>1484048
Technically speaking it's not an AI "edit"; it's an AI enhanced version of the image that makes his phone vaguely into a gun, but also has embarrassing fuck ups like him having a six fingered bird hand and literally decapitating one of the ICE agents in the shot.

>>1484055
>DHS has created multiple AI forgeries that will automatically be debunked by those who were actually there
Nothing new more than the DHS credibility is digging its way to china.

>>1483704
based
love that little dude

>>1484058
see
>>1480801

>>1483723
They are killing whites instead lmao

>>1484085
Jews*

An orange Jew lover is killing whites to save the white race

>>1483948
>flatten Minneapolis
You're genuinely stupid if you ever thought that Republicans would ever have the lack of brains to destroy a blue city. They make money. They aren't going to touch the fucking money. You idiot. You fucking moron.

>>1484094
>why isn't he bombing iran anon
>seven B-2 stealth bombers attack Iran in July last year
Trump already loves Israel anon, do keep up

>>1484111
If Trump isn't doing anything, he would tell Israel to go fuck themselves and stop sending billions in Republican taxpayers' money to Israel. So why does he continue sending billions to them? A clue: Trump loves Israel & Jews.

>>1484111
Why doesnt it count?
Like we were told war with Iran would be a quagmire. Then we dropped bombs for 12 days and lost no US forces
We were told Venezuela would be a quagmire, a new Vietnam. We changed the regime to one that is more friendly to the United States with no US casualties, no permanent US presence, no Vietnam

>>1484116
>Like we were told war with Iran would be a quagmire. Then we dropped bombs for 12 days and lost no US forces
And failed to accomplish our war goal and set Iran on a path of developing nuclear weaponry.
>We were told Venezuela would be a quagmire, a new Vietnam. We changed the regime
Except we didn't.

The reason those things *weren't* quagmires is we accomplished jack shit. Iran's main nuclear lab was too deep to hit and Venezuela's still run by the same corrupt authoritarian regime. We're just part of that corrupt regime now.

>>1483756
And slavs aren't mongolians. You're acting like racists are rational.

>>1484118
But trump got to try some of the toys he desperately wanted to use in Iran, and now has a new massive personal slush fund from all the oil he extorted from Venezuela, along with completely destroying the credibility of the opposition leader there.

But that doesn't change the fact his regime murdered two innocent Americans and then smeared them.
Strange how the families aren't already filing defamation suits

>>1483614
Sir.
We are removing the pedomanic antiwhite filth.
You seem confused.
Get bent faggot.
Wsnt to defend these invading raousts and murders who pillage our inheritance? You can be deported with them or killed beside them.
I care not.
Total antiwhite death.

>>1483618
>i'm a heckin trump viting cop
>but killing subversive antiwhite scum is....le too far
No one buys this shit kike.
Fuck off.
Die with your invading brown horde you self loathing cuck.
Pull a gun on a federal agent you get a diet of lead.

>>1483733
No.
We fucking don't.
We want them all fucking gone.
Whites are sick of being White erased.
We are sick of our inheritance being pussed away on invasive scum.
They all need to fucking get out.
Fuck your bitch made cuckery.
Them being here is defacto biospiritualy disharmony to my kin.

>>1483751
>muh i dont seecolor
>muh we all bleed red
You having a disability makes you weak and a fool.
Not some bold champion.
Those of us with properly working eyes and brains see the stark differences clearly.
Neck yourself for tredging up such pathetic meme pathogens retard.

>>1483770
Both are examples of biological White erasure.
And both need to stop.
Anyone saying otherwise is antiwhite and coping hard. And not worth listening too.

>>1483769
Vance is a massive piece of shit.
Anyone looseky White sympathetic should NOT want his antiwhite ass in power.
Period.
His whole career is based on shitting on and demoralizing Whites.

>>1483794
The fuck do you mean cut and dry with Flyod?
A nigger who robbed a store with a counterfeit bill.
Had THREE chances to rrturn the stolen items.
Dooed up on x3 the lethal dosage of fent.
Then himsekf begged to be put on the ground.
Nigger killed himself.
The jury even explictly stated they only voted conviction dye to democrat leadership threatening more antiwhite terrorism.
You fagots are so beyond removed from reality it's unreal.

>>1483939
It's a moral obligation to kill antiwhite trators.
Get fucked.
May more of you die.

>>1484116
They've been saying the same shit about a war with Greenland and Canada, and they will be wrong there. If Trump could conquer those two countries, he would be walking in the footsteps of Adolf and be hailed as one of the greatest leaders in history, and it would be so easy.

>>1484127
>Fascist right is still seething the court of law found them guilty of murdering George.
>>829579
This is still the most seethe I've ever seen on /news/ and the fact you're still seething over George getting justice says a lot.

Not that it changes anything from the fact fascists have no problem murdering white men too. They're just anti life.

>>1484048
Christ we gotta shut this AI shit down.

>>1484131
The roller coaster is just beginning…

>>1484118
How do you know the Iranian site was too deep to be effected?
How do you know that Venezuela is the exact same and the nature of power there hasn't changed? It seems like what you're saying is based on who you offer credibility, who you believe.

>>1484150
>How do you know that Venezuela is the exact same and the nature of power there hasn't changed?
Maduro's VP is in power and literally none of the corrupt figures that were a part of him claiming the election illegitimately have been removed. The entire rest of the regime is still there; he might as well have died of a heart attack.

>>1484160
nazis were far left socialists like the democrats btw

>>1484168
they call themselves democrats now tho. you might want to update your lexicon

>>1484175
the klan were democrats too, btw. but you already knew that

>>1484164
>Conservatives are projecting again
Nazis are authoritarian, which is inherently right wing and conservative.

>>1484198
so every government that ever existed is right wing and conservative?

>>1484199
>Every government is nazi
This is your brain on conservatism

>>1484205
Parties change, but it's always the conservatives who are responsible.

>>1483563
terrorists mad their terrorist bro got taken out and mad they'll be next
what a surprise i feel soooo bad for them

>>1484273
>Terrorism is when you do nothing to ICE but could've theoretically done something to ICE, so they have to kill you

>>1483939
>>1483614
>just watch it reee
>we did ice did the right thing
>REEEE you're dishonest listen to ME!! only my OPINION IS RIGHT
so why are people crying over a terrorist again unless they're next on the chopping block and crashing out that people will laugh at them the same way

>>1484275
We have eyes retard. ICE murdered someone. AGAIN.

>>1484274
>bring a gun to a protest
>verbally berate and hinder law enforcement while armed
>reach out your gun and get tackled
>accidently discharge the gun
>get gunned in and become a martyr for being a domestic terrorist
you should follow suit don't you want to be a hero

>>1484277
why couldn't it of been a criminal you? why did it have to be the innocent gun wielding armed domestic terrorist boohoo boohoo

>>1484278
>>reach out your gun and get tackled
>>accidently discharge the gun
lmao this didn't happen. Lying isn't working anon.

>>1484277
Liberals literally tried to kill Trump twice and celebrated kirk being shot. This Jewish paid protestor was armed while attacking agents

>>1484284
>attacking agents
>Literally just standing there before getting pepper sprayed
No one believe you lol. Bolvino already got demoted over this and we're not satisfied with a scapegoat.

>>1484286
It's doesn't matter. Bus in more paid white women and Jews and ICE will keep mowing them down

>>1484278
>Reach out your gun
Never happened, and anyone who has seen the video knows this. The only thing he had in his hand at any point was his phone, which he had in his hand and visible the entire time. His other hand was in the air in a clear gesture of nonviolence, until he was pepper sprayed and tackled, at which point he attempted to protect his head, as one does when being beaten.

>>1484281
it happened its not up to me to convince a mentally ill leftist about reality

>>1484289
I'm suuuure ur right and he definitely wasn't a terrorist despite running at law enforcement armed and taunting them.

>>1484289
>He reached for his gun
>no he didn't bro just trust me bro everybody knows bro

>>1484290
>>1484292
>>1484293
You can literally just watch the video. You have no eyes and no balls.

>>1484294
the 8th circuit court just sided with ICE anon, now the local law enforcement is being ordered to help put down the "peaceful" protests because its ruled they aren't protesters they're violent rioters.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-admin-wins-court-victory-freeing-ice-agents-minnesota-protest-restrictions

If you were peaceful this wouldn't be happening you're officially declared domestic terrorists by the federal court. GL appealing this to the supreme court before you're all iced

>>1484296
Yeah this isn't a ruling on the video. Your boys are still getting tried for murder in broad daylight.

>>1484297
ok illiterate little boy. you're now a federal court appointed domestic terrorist.
its now justified to use lethal force to put you down. kukukuku
tremble in fear.
First you'll be put down then they'll investigate your family for terroristic ties and they'll be dragged into this as well before getting into an "accident"

>>1483563
I don't get what the fuss is about. Trump will pardon all the jackboots, and the atrocities will continue.

>>1484296
This court ruling is not a decision on the murder of Alex Pretti, and you're a desperate retard hoping that repeating the lie enough times will make it true.

>>1484309
its opened up ICE local law enforcement to use the same tactics by designating you as a terrorist.
its fine you can squeal all you want it doesn't change the fact that ur now an enemy of the people. get LRAD until you go deaf

>>1483724
>second Trump term can be described roughly as a coalition of racist non-whites (spics) and barely whites (Italians, Jews, etc.) perpetuating a race war against white Heritage Americans to create a white ultraethnostate.
Checks out. We live in schizoid times.

>>1484314
it's like you love being called esl shill

>>1484302
Can't pardon state charges as trump found out when he tried to pardon the woman who took part in his failed coup in Colorado and they told him to fuck off.
This is why they immediately blocked any state investigation and destroyed the evidence of ICE murdering of Alex though.

>>1484297
Which boys are these, specifically? Got a name to go with all that impotent rage? If not, then all you have is wishful thinking

>>1484339
We'll find out. We already got Jonathan Ross from one Noem fuckup.

>>1484323
you're going to enjoy being named roadkill huh

>>1483563
ICE was retarded enough one of them tried to break into the Ecuadorean consulate today. Retard should've gotten his fucking head blown off by security.

>>1484345
are you going to drive across the ocean to run me over in the car you can't afford, esl shill?

>>1484355
>esl shill thinks ICE agents are paid under the table
maybe in your country
We already have all their names, they're on ICE payroll. Just another 11 months until Republicunts lose power for decades.
other ICE faggots will be jumping at the chance to reveal the murders once we start charging all of them

>>1484355
>Guys we'll kill so many people you won't even know which of us killed who!
Yeah in that case I'm fine putting the whole organization on the gallows. There's enough rope for all of you.

>>1484365
You'd be lauded as a hero if you shot Pretti.
It'd be a world record making that shot all the way from India

>>1484365
He's gonna be worrying for the rest of his life. We'll find his names and the rest of his squad, at which point they better hope they just get arrested.

>>1484372
you're not the coroner though, your job title is esl shill

>>1484372
Its why you're not a hero and just a retarded ESL shill
Life isn't one of your Bollywood movies, retard

>>1484353
no you're going to be shoved in front of an ice car by your fellow terrorists, get turned into a pancake then become the next renee

>>1484124
Who's WE?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-barbie-kristi-noem-throws-stephen-miller-under-bus-to-save-her-job/
ICE Barbie throws Naiz Miller under the bus for their smear campaign against Adam, the man they murdered in cold blood.

>>1483936
Yeah right because some schizo on /pol/ is a reliable source

>>1484278
Oh so NOW bringing a gun to a protest is a bad thing? Knew it, it's the same logic you faggots had when the Black Panthers started open-carrying.

>>1484415
do you know why you get called esl shill

>>1484421
Because you're a lot iq tranny that struggles with basic concepts like "minimum"?

>>1484421
He does, but he will always deny it

>>1484430
esl shill, it's extremely obvious when you talk to yourself like this. here's a penny, don't waste it

>>1484432
Save it for your hrt, tranny

>>1484410
>That'sallyoucansay.mp4

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fuming-melania-puts-trump-aides-at-risk-of-ouster-michael-wolff/
LOL, the reason trump is axing his minions is his trophy wife is upset her documentary Jeff Bazeos made to bribe trump is being ignored now
RNC is going to have to buy A LOT of movie tickets for it.

>>1484489
Trophy wife? Barf. She got beat hard with the ugly stick. Also, you need to learn to spell, way too many mistakes there. Lastly, his last name is Bezos, not whatever the hell you said.

>>1484490
>Needing to pay
MIGA shills outing themselves

>>1484558
>Digging the hole deeper for himself
LOL

>>1484529
She's the one women trump doesn't have to rape to have sex with, so there's that.