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>Everybody has their own taste, but some tastes are wrong. If you aren't sure if your car is classic or not, it's not.
>Your Honda Miata doesn't belong here.
>US, Euro, Jap, or whatever.
>Post your classic, your work on it, your hackery, and get advice.
>Any and all discussion about classics welcome, but may not necessarily generate responses; don't get butthurt.
>Period correct performance > cosmetics.
>Metal > plastic.
>Classic shitbox > modern shitbox.
>JBweld and RTV can fix anything
>If you see rust there is more.
>Rust and bodywork are the most difficult thing to repair.
>Electrical work is difficult until you stop reading forum posts and buy a multimeter.
>Low oil pressure? Worn mains and rod bearings. Use lucas and 15W40 until you afford a rebuild.
>Do NOT buy a classic and plan to pay someone to work on it. You need to be able to do 90% or more of the work or you will go broke.
>You will spend twice your budget, unless you have years of experience. If the salty old hands agree, it's true.
>If you can't tune a carb you might literally be retarded
>Nothing is as easy as it seems

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Its not pretty but I can fix it.
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>>28793181
>It might have been worth it to go 66 and earlier.
I think this sometimes, but I so far I haven't found a '66 or earlier model car that
>I really like the look
>I find the interior comfy
>I like the dash
>Has reasonable parts availability
>Has either good suspension or well supported aftermarket suspension upgrades
>Is priced sanely

I know that's a lot to ask, but the truth is there just aren't many pre-67 cars that really do it for me. This is of course subjective, but generally I find them either gaudy and over designed or they have whacky gimmicky dashes or overly sparse interiors. Of the ones that I do like, they're crazy expensive. 1965-66 Mustangs and GTOs for example are all going for brand new family car money. If you do find one for $12-15k, it's a clapped out project with a straight six and a 3-sleed automatic that will need $10k in parts to be what I want it to be anyway.

So it was either spend $25-40k on a pre-67 that I like, or get pretty much everything I want from a 75-85 model for $15k tops but have to navigate the emissions shit.

So we'll see how it goes. Worst case scenario and I can't get it through emissions, I have three options.
>Move out of this shithole city.
>Title it to a trustworthy family member in another county to be exempt.
>Pull my expensive powertrain, sell the roller, and buy the cheapest 65-66 mustang I can find.
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>>28793889
>complaining about a 3 speed auto
There are 2 speed powerglide builds that are faster than anything you've ever driven or will ever drive.
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>powerglide
WEW couldn't be me
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>>28793889
Other pre-67 cars I somewhat like besides the Mustang
>Fairlane
>Galaxie
>Chevelle
>Nova
>>28793961
>There are 2 speed powerglide builds that are faster than anything you've ever driven or will ever drive
Man I don't really care about that - I'm not a spec sheet cock measurer. It's all about the driving experience and how the cars makes me feel, and I like driving manuals. Even if they're slower. Autos, regardless of how many gears they have or how fast the car it's in is, deprive me of an entire aspect of driving that I enjoy. So if I'm buying a car as anything but a practicalitymaxxing commuter econobox, the auto has to go.
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>>28793961
no one gives a shit nigger
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>>28793889
>Pull my expensive powertrain, sell the roller, and buy the cheapest 65-66 mustang I can find
Are you the guy with the 4 door Fairmont?
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>>28793889
I bought a 1990 mustang to do an efi swap in my '66.
>this was in the 90's.
Made the mistake of driving the '90. Hated driving the '66 after that.
Original body style mustangs look cool but they're not good cars. Everything from seating position to suspension geometry is....get this....ancient 1960's design.
So much has to be modified to make them handle as well as even a 2000 camry that theyre only good for boulevard cruisers.

Sold the '66 many years ago.
Still have the '90.
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>>28794309
im glad you sold the mustang instead of making an abomination out of it like every retard trying to cope with their rose tinted glasses
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>>28793696
fake highboy but still the best OP pic in a long time
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>>28794339
I hate this "build" so fucking much it's unreal
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>>28794339
Half of the 1964 1/2 - 1966 mustangs built were sold in California.
They werent a big deal back then. I bought that car for $800 and there was nothing wrong with it. 289/C4.
It was an awesome car but we took their availability for granted.
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>>28794286
Yes.
>>28794309
>Everything from seating position to suspension geometry is....get this....ancient 1960's design.
That's definitely part of the reason I'm more drawn to 70s and 80s models to he honest. Cars were definitely still being figured out in the 60s, especially when it came to ergonomics, interiors, and suspension. I admit I have a particular fondness for cars from 75-85. Still relatively simple, easy to work on. My favorite era for visual design in general. Much better interior comfort and handling than earlier cars. It's really only the emissions laws and questionable build quality you have to worry about.
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I never did end up posting it before the thread closed, here's my Matador Coupe Barcelona.
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>>28794309
>Original body style mustangs look cool but they're not good cars. Everything from seating position to suspension geometry is....get this....ancient 1960's design.
this was what i was thinking when i saw that infamous pic of that guy that traded in his 66 mustang for an audi s5. it was probably his dream car since he was a kid, and now after all these years of working his ass off to finally be able to get his hands on one...and it wasn't as good as he hoped it'd be.
>>28794391
what are you talking about it's a great build there's nothing wrong at all with rubber band tires and god only knows what else was done to make that car more like a nu-car
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>>28794309
Yeah, but the government won't deny your registration renewal because of archaic suspension geometry and leaf springs.
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>>28794822
Leave California.
I did.
Never been happier.
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is it normal for the valves to be the wear item in heads and not the guides? Ive taken apart the heads on these 3 sbcs and the valves have lots of clearance to wobble in the guides, but a new valve feels snug in all 3 heads
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>>28795073
Sounds odd to me.
Used to take valves with mushroomed stem heads, grind them flat and reuse them. Theyre suppose to outlast seats and guides.
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>>28794822
Exactly. A bit of research shows you can cram better suspension underneath a first gen Mustang body, if you're willing to throw enough money at it. I'm sure it would offend purists but it is what it is. In any case, I'll beat my head against the wall for a while before I fall back on doing something like that. Now that I have the Zephyr all drivable it's really starting to grow on me. I'm pretty sure I can get it to pass but I'm at least trying to think ahead to what I'll do if I can't.
>>28794833
I don't live there. This happens in many states other than California anon, and that's been the case since the 70s. It's on a county by county basis across most of the US, and most counties that have a major city in them have something like it.
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>>28794431
Damn that's really cool anon. That front facia is really striking. Front have of the car is 9/10, back half I'm not as crazy about but it looks super clean. Any interior pics?
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>>28795427
Unless it's really cheap I'd be building the tried and true c4 subframes. You can buy a 500sqft lot somewhere not gay for $7500 and register your car there.
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>>28795434
>You can buy a 500sqft lot somewhere not gay for $7500 and register your car there.
Needs to have a utility bill to count, same as for buying a gun. Just an address or PO box doesn't count AFAIK. So it would have to have electricity or water or something at a minimum.
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>>28794431
What a weird looking pinto.
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>>28795427
Don’t even bother trying to explain, half these toothless mongrels can’t possibly fathom that somebody wouldn’t want to live in some backwoods flyover shit hole and the other half couldn’t afford to live anywhere else anyway.
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>>28795954
>t. hustle and bustle
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>>28795954
Post your zip code.
Let's compare quality of life.
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>>28795465
doesnt need to be a utility bill, i have a empty 10 acre lot with a pole barn i store shit in, i used the receipt for some freight i had dropped there. its in the sticks so no one fucks with any of it
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>>28795431
Yeah, it's absurdly comfortable I love the bench seats.
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>>28796811
8 years apart and AMC still using the same parts, I see. My 85 Eagle has the same inner and outer door handles, same dome light, probably the same window cranks and who knows what else
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>>28796888
Well then just a heads up for you. The tumblers in those door locks will freeze in sub 32 degrees if there's a heavy wind. I couldn't get into my car for a day the other week. Nice fucking interior though man, looks good condition. How's the Eagle as a driver?
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>>28796906
I've had it for 6 years, so when it does get cold out I just heat up a the key with a lighter and it unthaws eventually. As for a driver, the 4x4 is great in the snow, but it's such an underpowered turd, being a straight six from the 80s. The Chrysler transmission doesn't help either, like most Eagles, 3rd gear slips.
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>>28796908
Is that the 727 transmission in there? The TorqueFlite or whatever AMC rebranded it to? Also clean Eagle dude, I almost bought one.
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>>28796924
It's a 904 or some variation of the Torqueflite, I can't remember exactly, only the Jeeps had a 727.
It's a notoriously picky transmission and 3rd gear commonly goes bad on them. As a mechanic, Eagles are not very good vehicles, but people love them. Most of the time I'm parked somewhere, some one comes up to me and tells me how their dad/ uncle/ friend of a friend had one and they think it's cool.
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Well i found out why there’s moss growing on the drivers drip rail
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>>28796934
Odd, I haven't had an issue with the 727 in my Matador, though it seems like it really holds off on that 3rd gear when accelerating foot to the floor, second will take you up to almost 80mph before it shifts unless you blip it. I know just what you mean about people coming up though, the amount of people I've heard do the "An AMC?! I haven't seen one in ages!" is getting a little absurd.
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>>28795994
31021

Reminder that I was raised in 92071
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>>28796938
>moss
My shits been sitting for so long it has lichen on it.
>get gud
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>>28796962
>92071
>Not even La Jolla
kek, you can't talk ANY amount of shit. Dublin area is certainly your pace anyways, poorfaggot
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>>28796964
lich my balls
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>>28796971
Post your zipcode.
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>>28796971
Oh by the way

Law street.
Parking sucks ass.
Throw pallets down the cliffs.
Thats OUR fire ring.
Grunion are a fucking trip.
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>>28796962
There is never anything to gain by providing more information about yourself to someone you're arguing with online.
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Can anyone shed some light to me why this ignition coil has 2 positive leads, one from/to the starter relay?
Is this to make sure the coil gets enough voltage during cranking or am I missing something?
I've never encountered this kind of setup before.
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Eastwood 2 part engine paint and primer spray paint works quite well
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>>28796934
i had the folly of buying one thinking it would be like an xj, i ended up pulling the motor and junking the rest
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>>28797051
at one time 92037 now it's innawoods somewhere in New Mexico. not posting because i don't want any more rubbish shitting up this gem.
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>>28797357
ill pass, s10 already lives there
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>>28797068
One of the positives will be 12v during Start while the other will be at a reduced voltage through a ballast resistor/resistor wire when in Run. Keeps the amperage down so as to extend life of the points and not blow up coils from heat.
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>>28796951
>>28796934
>>28796924
AMC is so weird. I had gm th400 behind my 304 79 CJ
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>>28797060
>OMG someone knows what city I live in!!!
It would be cool.tp get my own stalker.
Thats like rich people hobby.
Bring beer.
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>>28797376
Yeah that's what I kinda figured that it's some sort of ballast type thingy, but I didn't see a ballast on the coil so I dropped that idea. Seems like my initial assumption was correct then.
I'm going to drop the points eventually for a contactless system anyway so a generic coil will do just fine then.
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>>28797541
sure there ain't a ballast resistor somewhere else in the engine bay? mopars as an example would have it somewhere on the firewall or fender
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>>28797541
>>28797545
Some vehicles use a "ballast wire". It looks like a normal piece of wire and can be difficult to find in the harness. If you come across it it looks like some weird factory splice.
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>>28797545
I haven't looked even, but could be.
Shit's still in the bodywork stage before I can get to the engine.
Of course the very first thing I did get for this car was a shiny new carb, but that is essential.
>>28797551
Could be, but then again ancient Soviet engineering that has been fucked around with since the 70s by Ukrainians and was a victim of kolhoz tuning.
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>>28797553
>Soviet engineering
Ya ill bet its a ballast wire, cheapest way to do it so it fits with the Russian mindset
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Subframe almost ready to come out
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>>28797490
condoms and lube, too, or nah?
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>>28797563
The Volga was anything but cheap for its time, but you might still be right.
But it doesn't really matter if I'm ditching points for electronic ignition, that is if I'm keeping the stock engine in there at all.
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>>28794339
I like this restomod and idc what you fags say.
1968 Plymouth Road Runner: The Engine Is the Hellephant in the Room, Pumps Out 1,000 HP - autoevolution https://share.google/aBoPvBc2OloD9iEWD
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>>28797596
>and lube
Depends how tight your asshole is.
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>>28797918
why didn't you just post the direct link instead of that google link?
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/1968-plymouth-road-runner-the-engine-is-the-hellephant-in-the-room-pumps-out-1000-hp-263646.htm
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>>28794433
>god only knows what else was done to make that car more like a nu-car
they cut and grafted a sn95 into it
put a 0 effort smog 302 making under 200hp and an aod.
it's literally just a complete cut and shut hackjob thats not cool, its worse than just a base 6 falcon.
rcr is a faggot kike who's afraid of cars that're fast he only had it built for him so he could meet old men to suckoff at car meets and he immediately sold it when they still avoided his gay kike ass.
he bought and sold the mr2 for the same reason.
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>>28797918
that's fine except for that gay badge on the side
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>>28797923
it wasn't for me ;)
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>>28797434
teehee I'm just so quirky and weird
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>>28798131
>muh gay
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>>28798616
shut up, lm7bird
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>>28797926
How the fuck do you even drive something with that much power
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After quite a bit of research and talking to the folks at MM, I think my plan is coming together.

I'm still on the lookout for a good donor car to make this all simpler and cheaper, but people are getting fucking weird about fox bodies. I'm basing my plan on piecing it all together and if I find a donor in the meantime then I'll just use whatever parts I can pull off that instead (k-member, clutch, motor, spindles).

A lot of the more radical or expensive offerings for the suspension and brakes require 17" wheels for one reason or another, and I just don't think they would look good on the car, so that narrowed things down a bit. No MM K-member (it's engineered for SN95 spindles), no Griggs/DetroitSpeed/RideTech SLA, no aftermarket big brake kits, etc. Still on the fence about converting to a coilover, but there are some benefits that are appealing to me when it comes to dialing in the ride height and quality. Really depends on whether I end up finding a donor or go with an aftermarket K-member.

Front
>15" 5-lug wheels
>87-93 V8 spindles
>11" front rotors
>SVO style calipers with 73mm pistons
>87-93 SVO master cylinder
>Upgraded front sway bar (MM/QA1/Eibach)
>K-member + A-arm + spring/shock TBD (MM/QA1 or some mix probably)

Rear
>15" 5-lug wheels
>8.8" rear end, probably retaining the current 3.27 gears for crooozing
>10.5" rotors
>SN95 Cobra calipers
>Sway bar (MM/QA1/Eibach)
>MM/QA1 upper+lower control arms
>MM panhard bar

Powetrain
>Tremec TKX, haven't decided on ratios yet
>Hydraulic clutch manual conversion kit
>302 crate motor, probably a long block instead of dressed so I can fit OEM headers and intake to make sure I can pass inspection.

Interior
>Retrosound head unit
>New 5" dash speakers
>6x9 rear deck speakers
>NOS 80-82 Mustang/Capri 6-gauge bezel I bought
>"hump" top repro mustang dash pad painted to match interior
>NVU/Dakota Digital direct fit gauge cluster
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>>28799406
Once I lock down my decision on those last few suspension components, I'm going to build a full tracking table for all the parts and price everything out on web stores / ebay / etc.

Then I'll split out all the pieces I could get off a donor car and that will tell me what price would make it worth it. A junkyard 302HO and T5 wouldn't be as nice, but I could cope with that for what it would save me and rebuild or down the road once they died.

Then it's just saving up - I won't order anything besides maybe the head unit until I can buy it all at once. Car is drivable now and I don't want to start taking it apart until I have everything I need to get it drivable again.
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>>28799406
>>28799415
I think you ought to just drive the car as is. It's a creampuff, mate.
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>>28799406
big brake kits are a meme, they just allow for increased heat capacity. just get something that'll fit under the stock 15s and if you want to slow down quicker get grippier tyres. if you're getting fade issues then you might start looking into better pad compounds, fluid etc.
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>>28799441
I'm driving it as is for now for sure - but I bought this car specifically with the intent of dropping a v8 and a manual into it, and while I'm doing that I might as well improve the brakes and suspension a bit. At a minimum, the sway bars will make a huge difference and all the original rubber bushings NEED to be replaced, along with the front struts. There are almost no good front strut options for the 79-86 spindles, so swapping to the 87-93 ones has multiple benefits.
>>28799469
>just get something that'll fit under the stock 15s
Yeah that's the plan - the stock wheels are actually 14s but I think a 15 will look just fine on the car. Any bigger is a no from me. 15" 5-lug will give me way more options for wheel and tire so I can find something that looks plausibly stock. There are no rear disc brake options that will fit under the 14s or I'd just keep those. Going to the 10.5" rotor brakes on the rear will throw the bias too far out for a proportioning valve to adjust properly, so the 11" fronts with the SVO 73mm piston calipers should get me back into a reasonable bias. That'll definitely be more than enough stopping power for the car and I doubt I'll have issues with fade on the canyon cruising I'll be doing with the car.
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>>28799487
does it still have rear drums? if so, keep them, it'll be perfectly fine...almost. you might just need to adjust the brake bias so that the fronts lock up right before the rears do (test on empty wet parking lot). you can also swap out the wheel cylinders for a smaller bore to achieve a similar effect if you don't have a prop valve.
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>>28799502
It's there are drums on the 8.8 rear end I bought to install in the car, but I don't want to keep them.

The car stops... ok currently, but the brake feel is absolutely garbage. Most vague, mushy brakes I've ever felt on a car. And that's after I went fully through the brakes on all four wheels, replaced most of the lines, and fully flushed the system with new fluid. Before I did all that they were even worse. Maybe just the SVO front setup with the appropriate master cylinder and booster would do the trick. Converting the rear to the 10.5" 94-04 rear disk will be easy enough and really not terribly expensive though so I had it noted down as worth serious consideration.
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>>28799540
bigger master cyl bore will increase pedal effort while shortening the travel. that might help with pedal feel. booster could also be contributing to the vagueness
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>>28799406
>Still on the fence about converting to a coilover, but there are some benefits that are appealing to me when it comes to dialing in the ride height and quality
Dialing in is a one time event.
Youre not going to change your mind later.
Having the spring between the lower and the K-member has the benefits of lower CoG and increased clearance for wider tires. Also cheaper struts of the same quality.
Springs will last a lifetime.
Youre going to change struts- and thats just service life without getting into failure rates.

Rear 5 lug/disc conversion is an easy swap with TWO (2) DRIVER SIDE RANGER AXLES sourced from your local junkyard.

Stock headers suck.
Nobody that does a smog check is going to know the difference between the stock 1 1/2 primary dimpled pieces of shit or a pair of 1 5/8 primary Doug Thorley or even BBK headers- but the engine will.

6x9s are trash.
Its an attempt to make 2 different sound waves from a single driver.
Coaxial all around.
3 1/2 in the dash, 5 1/4 in the doors 6 1/2 out back.
8s, 10s or 12s in the trunk depending on your musical taste.
Not some Kenwood trash from walmart but something with enough weight to knock someone out with. My 3 1/2s have 3" magnets
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>>28799406
gonna be a ripper
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>>28799406
>11" front rotors with 15s
im not so damn sure about that nigga
>11" cobra rotors with 18" amr shart wheels
you might possibly fit 16s with the cobra calipers, maybe.
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>>28799646
i've got 11.1 inch/283 mm rotors under 15 inch steelies. this is for a mopar though.
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>>28799591
>junkyard axles
moser will sell you upgrade 31 spline axles for next to nothing.
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>>28799646
>>28799653
I have some 11.75" rotors from a cordoba under some aero steel wheels. also on a MOPAR
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>>28799684
15s
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>>28799669
Cheapest I found.
Still impressive but I can get axles for $10 a piece at the junkyard.
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>>28799669
>upgrade 31 spline
Well thats not a direct swap then now is it.
>just upgrade the spiders bro.
>since you had to pull the carrier instead of just sliding in 28s you should do bearings too.
>well shit nothing lines up now so you might as well re-gear too.
>since the carriers out you might as well replace the friction discs.
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>>28799563
Good tip, I'll keep it in mind.
>booster could also be contributing to the vagueness
Hmm... hydroboost conversion? Something to consider when I'm getting the new steering rack installed. Didn't put it in my original post but I'm definitely planning a Flaming River 12:1 power rack when I can.
>>28799591
>Having the spring between the lower and the K-member has the benefits of lower CoG and increased clearance for wider tires
To be clear, you're saying this is a benefit of keeping the stock setup? I was considering that a benefit of the stock setup with new springs and better struts would probably be easier to maintain in the long run. I'm spoiled on very nice adjustable coilovers on motorcycles and that's why I mentally defaulted to them, but I can see it both ways.
>Stock headers suck.
But they have the air injection ports so I could at least make it LOOK like all the original emissions hardware is there, even if I have it blocked off. Probably overthinking it desu. I would honestly much rather put decent aftermarket short tube headers and a good intake with a Holley Sniper kit on it, but I care more about keeping it on the road in my shit ass corrupt county.
>6x9s are trash
I was only thinking that because there appears to already be mounting holes in the sheet metal beneath the rear deck for them. You can get 6x9 coaxials. In any case, I wasn't planning to mount speakers in the doors since I don't want to cut up the good condition door cards. Just the dash and rear deck. I'll buy good quality speakers. Literally anything is better than the single mono speaker it has right now.
>>28799646
The cars these brakes originally came on had 15s, and the seller says 15s fit. I think it'll work. The stock rotors are 10" and fit under 14s.
>>28799669
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>>28799719
Yeah I'm just gonna drop some cheap 28 spline 5-lug axles in the 8.8 rear I have. Not planning on monster power with this thing. Just enough to have fun uphill.
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>>28799751
never tried a hydroboost setup. seems like it delivers even more stopping power than vacuum boost though.
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>>28799783
Most of what I read says that because it's a hydraulic booster running off the power steering pump instead of vacuum off the engine, the braking force you get is consistent across all RPMs and engine conditions, and with more feedback (and can support a stronger boost). With the right master cylinder for the brakes I'm considering, I should be able to get a really nice pedal travel and feel. That's the hope at least.

I'll talk to MM about it when I call them back, they know these cars inside out and will be able to tell me exactly how to get it set up.
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posted on /dat/ too but will post more about the carb cheater here. o2 sensor installed, can see rpm, vacuum and afr in real time, pretty fucking cool. Tried to start data logging but phone closed the app because overheating fml.
when it cools off later today i might see if i can do a quick zip down the highway to catch some data.
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>>28801168
fuck. so i discovered that my car can't go down the highways for too long lest it overheat. mind you, the guy that filled up the radiator just used straight demin water with redline water wetter. It fills up the overflow bottle and sometimes pukes it out if it gets hot enough. Interestingly, it hasn't lost enough to actually reach the level the factory manual says to fill to ("1.25 inch below filler neck seat")...yet.
Also seems to have a heat soak problem that not even my fiberglass fuel line insulation nor the composite spacer could prevent. Just have to remember to keep cranking with the pedal pushed down a bit till it turns over.
And as for the carb cheater...i has LOGS. just gotta figure out how to get them off the phone though lul.
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>>28801567
alright so it looks like you do need an internet connection if you wanna actually see a graph of the logs. Once it does that, beneath the graph is a data key that you can note down somewhere if you wanna read the log later.
The offline viewer is just lines of text but I think you can enter that into the 'Input Raw Data' field on their site to get a graph. Haven't tested though.
Pic related was driving through the suburbs. If you wanna take a look, go to the home page of the carb cheater website, bottom of that page, then copy the filename of pic related into the data key field
I haven't had the time yet to really dial it in since the exhaust upgrade. I kinda fucked it because it was running pretty good before but I thought the AFRs were way too high when I should've just looked at the vacuum while I was screwing with the idle mix screws.
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>>28801569
oops forgot to turn off dark reader addon
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>>28801572
fuck it. dark reader might be easier on the eyes. you guys can also see the graph yourselves with the data keys too.
>CJuJZ
narrowed it down to the first 30 secs after hitting the record button. Seems like this engine likes to idle at 1000 rpm, judging by the significantly increased vacuum at that particular rpm. Quite surprised since the factory manual idle rpm is usually around 550-600 although it's slightly different depending on the carb so that might not be a good reference.
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>>28801580
moar logs
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This is a pretty textbook example of pre-ignition, is this fucked. Its the only piston that looks like this
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Some weird rust patterns on the bores too. The cylinders are pretty glazed too so looks like it will need a good hone job to straighten this out
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>>28801168
>>28801567
>>28801569
>>28801572
>>28801580
COOL
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>>28802291
So that's where I left my steel BBs.
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>>28802291
That sure as fuck is not pre-ignition, that's something metal that got down the intake
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>>28802304
This is why I refuse to buy used engines for any more than scrap prices. In general there seems to be two places for people to store engines. One is the swamp in the backyard that the engine sank into a couple decades ago and they just now dug it out or on the side of the house right under a downspout so that the water pours directly into the engine. While this one is lightly damaged it appears this was a downspout-stored motor since there's no mud (yet).
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>>28802291
yeah wtf, that isn't preignition. some bullshit got sucked in and kissed the piston
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>>28802345
>>28802406
>>28802424
I scraped away at the carbon on the head and found little dimples so it's possible but im not convinced
>>28802419
I pulled it out of my dad's running driving bronco. We were doing a rear main seal and found bearing material in the pan. Looks like cam bearings but the entire motor looks pretty tired. Rod bearings are showing copper, cylinders are glazed. It'll take some work. The cam bearings are totally shot which would explain the low oil pressure at idle
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>>28802441
What do the valves look like?
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>>28802470
Nothing out of the ordinary here
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>>28802424
Yep.
Deepest impessions coincide with the combustion chamber shape- the debris being smashed between the head and piston in the area outside of the chamber.
Judging by the consistent dimple size I would say it was not a screw or random piece of casting that broke off from somewhere but more like a center electrode from a sparkplug.
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>>28802493
i'm thinking something like this
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>>28802569
aren't those made out of lead?
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Finished disassembly, cam bearings were totally shot
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>>28802477
yeah probably detonation, then. if something was rolling around a cylinder, you'd see the telltale marks on the valves, too.
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>>28803189
Pistons are aluminum.
Head is iron.
Marks are ONLY where the piston is shrouded by the head, outside of the compression chamber.
Locations are completely random and only on 1 cylinder.
Its 100% physical debris bouncing around and getting wedged between head and piston.
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>>28802569
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>>28802477
>>28802493
>>28803194
Yeah there's corresponding dimples here on the head.

Something definitely got it for a bit before it was blown out the valves. Shouldn't be a big problem on any case.
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>>28803223
Good to know it's not an ongoing issue. I'm still wondering if it will be necessary to replace the piston or not. It seemed to be running right. If i replace the one it will probably throw off the balance
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>>28803350
I wouldnt replace a single piston. Its beat up but theres plenty of mods that remove material from pistons so I dont think its going to cause a catastrophic failure.
If you wanted to swap out pistons then you might as well do a complete overhaul- kind of looking at doing nothing or doing everything in my book.
Send it.
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>>28803350
I doubt the damage is enough to cause a major issue desu - you should be good to leave the piston until you decide to rebuild the engine.
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just bought a machined and rebuilt (albeit 20 years ago) 250 ford short block for $30 dollars that was going to go to the scrapyard
i have nothing it could go in
anything i should know
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>>28803427
Stock option for most of the mid size Fords.
Better than the trash 180 but severely anemic for the size compared to modern engines.
You could find a 6 cylinder mustang chassis that someone was going to do a V8 swap with and do a restoration but other than that I have no idea what you'd do with it.
Luckily because the mustang had it you can basically find every part you need for it if you use it in something.
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>>28803350
>>28803393
>>28803223
I'd be more worried about the valves and seats on that hole. Give them a good check over. Don't want any places to cause a hot spot or drop a seat.
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>>28803393
>>28803424
That's kinda where im at at this point. It went from finding out where the bearing material in the pan came from to freshen up the engine with new bearings and some mods now it's escalated into a rebuild. It probably would have been cheaper to buy a blueprint motor at this point but at this point it's about the experience of building an engine
>>28803482
Getting new aluminum heads so not too concerned there
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Super noob question here. I have a 1986 caprice with a chevy 305, and quadrajet carburetor.
Is there an actual fuel pump in the gas tank on these cars? Or is the only fuel pump the mechanical one on the engine?


I had a bike that had a fuel pump despite being carbureted, but I don't know what it's like for cars.
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>>28803645
AFAIK on most cars with a mechanical fuel pump, that's the only pump. It pulls gas from the tank, and all that's in the tank itself is the pickup and the sending unit for the gage.
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>>28803675
Wonderful news.
I am convinced these aftermarket quadrajet fuel filters have really shitty one way valves. I think they often stick open or stick closed
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>>28803695
my rebuild kit came with a filter and no valve
at the risk of sounding ignorant, why would a check valve be required?
isn't the fuel on the bowl enough to start the engine and begin pulling fuel?
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>>28803700
I guess the quadrajets have a notoriously small float bowl. Paired with a badly tuned carb or poor running engine that has sit for a while, it's probably not enough.
At this point I'll probably just take the check valve out anyways for troubleshooting's sake, just means more time for the oil to prime lmao.
Better yet I'll grab one of those $15 clear in-line filter+valve things from ebay.
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>>28803707
it does have a small bowl but my cranking time is fine. i would guess that if it sits for months, you'll be re-priming the bowl by cranking regardless if you have the valve or not due to evaporation.
vice grip garage says those metal & plastic filters are prone to leaks FYI. he's a wiener but i trust him with that type of lore
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>>28803711
My cranking time is inconsistent. Thank god for accelerator pumps. The temps here keep going from -20C to +10C which doesn't help.
Often in the cold the engine will start strong, then quickly run out of fuel, then start and run strong there after because the fuel is where it needs to be.
>those metal & plastic filters are prone to leaks FYI
NOOOO
That means I have to get the $25 one that uses real glass!!!
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>>28803711
Correct

Inline filters is agood idea tho, just buy quality. (K&n is not quality)
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>>28803711
>>28803722
>bought a bunch of cheap wix inline filters from rockauto
fuuuuggg. anyone ever used the ones that have a replaceable filter element?
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>>28803724
You can still use them fine. Just check them for leaks every now and then.
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>>28803707
put this on the suction side of the fuel pump, you dont want this to turn into a leak when the glass shatters
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>>28803721
the glass ones are even worse. get an all plastic one or an all metal one.
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Decided to bite the bullet and get the fancy aluminum Edelbroke water pump for my AMX since I had to take the old one off anyway to get to the front crank seal. The ports where the heater core and bypass hose fittings are supposed to go look like ass, off-center for the coolant passages and thinnest on the side with the least meat around it. Sent them an email to ask if that's fucked up or not, because I'd really rather not crack it when I go to tighten the fitting.
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And the one that goes to the heater core. Less worried about this one breaking but damn that's not a good look.
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>>28803871
looks fine, youre over analyzing it
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>>28803870
>>28803871
if those take NPT fittings they'll need pipe sealant anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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>>28803870
>>28803871
from the pics, those looks like a machining defect called fins. the threads are what seals so you could actually remove the fins if you want
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>>28803878
Probably. Being unable to stop thinking is a fucking curse sometimes. I read somewhere it's possible to crack them by tightening the fitting too hard and got paranoid about it.
>>28803897
Is there a particular recommended sealant for brass fittings into aluminum to prevent galvanic corrosion fuckery, or would Gasoila/Permatex hi-temp/something else be good enough?
>>28803922
Maybe I just fell for the hype, but I was expecting a little better fit & finish. Or at least to line the damn hole up in the right spot.
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>>28804076
Just use regular old Teflon tape, that's what it's made for. No point in overthinking it, just don't be a stupid gorilla when you put the fittings in.
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>>28804076
ahh brass to aluminum...crap. i've got brass fittings in my alum intake for vacuum...
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>>28804076
i cracked a water pump for my 6.2 diesel over tightening it
but i was being a retard and thinking i had to use a massive breaker bar to screw the plug in until it was FLUSH with the surface
simply dont be retarded an you should be fine
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>>28804076
>particular recommended sealant for brass fittings into aluminum to prevent galvanic corrosion
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>>28804076
if you're talking about the hole being off-center - I work in aviation engine manufacturing and i've seen worse than that. tolerances exist for a reason to keep costs down.
there's nothing to worry about in that regard.
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>>28803778
PLASTIC!!!!!
ON MY VINTAGE AUTOMOBILE
FAFO BUDDY YOUDAMN SHITHEAD
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>>28804468
laptops are fantastic they're made out of plastic
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>>28804917
so are your Barbie dolls
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>>28804933
barbies are fantastic they're made out of plastic
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>>28804933
GOTTEM!
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>>28804983
Spottem
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Went on a lil 75 mile cruise today. Car is running and driving as it should now, and I have a solid feel for the baseline. As I swap in new parts from the plan I'm going to do this same drive regularly to feel the difference.

Feeling pretty good overall for what it is. It's really a solid cruiser. If it had about 50 more horsepower, there would be a genuine case for leaving the current engine imo. With that amount of power a junkyard T5 would last forever too. As is, this engine is just a bit too gutless. Accelerating up even a mild grade from 30mph is optimistic at best. I've done enough reading on them too to know there's really nothing that can be done about it since there are no easily available improved heads and that's the main limitation. As light as this car is though, even a stock 302HO would make this thing plenty fun. The crate motor I was looking at would make it pretty spicy.

With the extra windshield time, I'm fully convinced that the priority is suspension improvements. Then steering. Then braking. Once I work through that stuff I can get serious about drive train.
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>>28805318
Oh, and I got 17mpg. Which, for the 70hp or whatever I'm getting... Lol, lmao. Could be worse I suppose.
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>>28805321
pretty sure i got around that amount with my old v6 camry wagon with 4 speed slushbox
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>>28805334
Not bad considering it likely produced like 3-4x the power. My E39 got about 20mpg for ~220hp and that's damn good. 17mpg for ~70-90hp is a bad trade.
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>>28806344
i did forget that it was only making 60-70 hp lol. i just thought that if you got the same mileage in a big boat with a v8 then it'd be worthwhile.
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I’m so fucking sick of my fuckass car I don’t want to do this shit anymore why didn’t I pick something easier to get into like painting or some shit fuck this
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>>28806821
wat car?
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last month i posted about trying to get this pig to idle a little better. 400 sbc, isky 280 mega cam. couldn't get it to idle lower than 1000 rpms or so. tried to crack the secondaries but it didn't like that. threw in a 3.5 power valve instead of the stock 6.5, i think that helped.

then i plugged the pcv and that seemed to make the biggest difference. immediately the idle jumped up and smoothed out. so i was able to then close up the primaries a bit and get the idle down to around 500 rpms. but i need a pcv so i replaced the stock type valve with one of those adjustable ones and it ran just as good.

it still surges every couple seconds to around 650 rpms or so but it's way better than it was, and i'm not sure i should be expecting anything better. i had it idling like this in gear for about 15 minutes without stalling too. gonna keep messing with it but i'm pretty stoked right now.

>>>/wsg/6072690
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1768418598003866.webm" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1768418598003866.webm
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>>28807571
these are the two little guys that solved all my problems. sounds pretty steady from outside the car too. i do wish the cam had a little bit more lope to it though. i was going back and forth between the 280 and 292 mega cams, feeling like i should have gone with the 292.

>>>/wsg/6072697
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1768420462114798.webm" target="_blank">https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1768420462114798.webm
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>>28807218
Fiaggat 124 spider assrape edition
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>>28807571
Nice anon, glad you made some progress here. A bit too choppy for my taste, but I bet it sounds great under acceleration.
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>>28807773
thanks bud. yeah it screams up high and rips right off idle. i'll keep working to get it smoothed out, probably gonna toss a wideband in it to help fine tune it. but it'll be slow going until the spring, just happened to have a nice day above freezing today to mess around with it a bit.
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>>28807605

My condolences
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Hey 79SCBro.... I think I found your new inspiration.

https://www.facebook. .com/share/1NNVJdNdQP/
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>>28805321
that car is definitely running like shit unless thats 100% city driving
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>>28808341
It was 60% stoplight traffic driving, 40% "hooning" the twisties at my local touge. I was definitely not driving for efficiency.
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Old cars seem to handle sitting for long periods of time a lot better than newer cars.
They always fire up without a problem. Every time. I'm slowly, painfully, making progress on the 351 Cleveland for the Ranchero. I pulled it out of the field and put it under my awning. It's been 4 years now since the engine spun a rod bearing. Seems like something always gets in the way of me making progress on it, so I've been doing just a little bit every few nights a week and it's getting somewhere finally.
About to put the piston rings on but I have just a couple bearings that need a little more polishing then I can finish assembling the bottom end.
Thanks for reading my blog.
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>>28808750
son you bought the wrong car to hoon
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>>28809700
Wrong. You'll see, you'll all see. It's a fox body goddamnit! It's a sleeeeperrrrrrr
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how well do those radiator flush treatments work for copper-brass radiators? or is just reverse flushing with regular water from a gun better?
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>>28810227
Aluminum or copper doesnt matter.
Scale is scale.
You need some kind of chemical/acid to strip it.
A.reverse flush is just going to get out the big pieces, theres still an insulating coating that lowers heat trasnfer rate.
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>>28810245
thanks, gonna try soaking it in 50/50 water and vinegar for a week. what's something that can plug radiator hoses? having a brain fart.
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>>28810516
Anon just get a proper rad treatment. Drain the system, flush with a hose, refill with the treatment, run it for a while or according to instructions, drain and flush again then fill with coolant.
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Looking at a property with 2 garages and a double carport/driveway
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>>28810516
I do vinegar baths for vintage BMX. A week is too long. You can make a 100 yearold penny shine in about 60 seconds with vinegar.

Put the hoses on the radiator. Lay the radiator flat and rotate the hoses upwards. Pour in vinegar.
Vinegar is cheap. I would let it soak for a day then pour it out and check for debris. If the vinegar gets a blue tint, stop.
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>>28811133
buy it
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>>28811188
it's going to be a bidding war.
I hate nu-real estate
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>>28811176
do you put straight vinegar or 50/50 with water?
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>>28811356
Vinegar you buy from the grocery store is already diluted. I use it straight from the jug.
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Reupholstered firebird's back seat, absolutely with the effort
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>>28811620
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>>28811621
Turned out nice.
Guessing it was a "slip on" kit.
What did you pay?
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>>28811769
The covers were a gift for Christmas but i think they're about $350 and i paid $200 more for the burlap and wadding kit. I probably could have just sourced the wadding separately and saved some money but live and learn i guess. They weren't slip on covers this is actual upholstery which was really nice and made it turn out really well, working on the seat now
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>>28811830
So you paid market? Not bad atall. Good lad.
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>>28811461
thanks. doing the usual rad flush first, seems to be much better i think. sending it down the highway the needle still climbs, but remained quite steady in the middle. although I think it's just because it's straight water + 500 ml of radiator flush chemical.
I probably should've taken a pic with the thermal camera prior to doing the flush...it seems to be evenly flowing as far as I can tell.
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>>28811972
also replaced the 160°F thermostat with a 180°F one. Upper rad hose temp is about 10°C hotter than the lower.
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>>28811974
lower rad hose
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>>28811975
more shots of radiator from behind. fan is in the way
only reason I didn't do vinegar soak is because removing the rad would require disconnecting the trans cooler lines and I couldn't be stuffed doing that...yet.
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>>28811974
>Upper rad hose temp is about 10°C hotter than the lower.
I'm told that 10C difference is about 18F difference so that would mean that the lower hose is about 160F since the upper should be about 180F after the thermostat change.

It's been my experience that if you don't get at least an 80F temperature drop from the top of the radiator, presumably 180F in this case, to the bottom then you'll have problems with running hot.
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>>28811996
damn. yeah from the pics the lower radiator outlet is 182-3°F. Upper/thermostat housing would be around 203°F. That was a few mins after the engine was turned off too.
Overflow bottle was bubbling, but not puking coolant like it was before. Dunno if it's just because it's practically straight water with the flush chemical so it might've been able to transfer heat better or something. 30 min drive at normal operating temps as per the instructions (down a highway and back), now gonna leave it overnight then drain it all out.
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Are upper bell housing bolts always such a pain in the ass? I tried to snake some extension contraption up there but had no luck and threw it on the ground and contemplated suicide for the rest of the night.
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>>28812096
Yes.

Dis you loosen up the motor mounts? Helps on some setups to get the rear of the engine to drop down a hair more, just enough to get that extra clearance from the firewall.
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>>28811972
Are you getting adequate airflow over that radiator? The lower hose should be alot colder
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>>28793696
Should I buy a 1979 camaro?
It's in excellent condition.
Built 383 engine
$11k
I need a classic car I can't help it
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>>28812409
Go home Rocford, youre drunk.
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>>28812096
for me i had to disconnect the crossmember holding the gearbox up, then use a floor jack to lower it all until there was enough room to get a metre's worth of non-wobble extensions in there.
>>28812209
car was stationary and engine was turned off for a few mins at the time those pics were taken
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>>28812096
yes
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>>28812436
But I'm being serious here.
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>>28812470
oops. didn't mean to sage. forgot to clear it after positng in another thread.
i just want an old car with a powerful V8 that rides and handles somewhat decent.
mainly as a weekend or even daily driver
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>>28812475
If its already been gone through then sure why not.
The big issue with classics is people without real wrenching experience picking up some rats nest for cheap thinking "theyre so simple, even I can fix this".
Just be prepared to rebuild the diff, carb, do drum brakes etc.

I restored a '66 F100 back in the 90s and I still have it. Take care of that canaro and it will outlive you.
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>>28812475
you weren't saging. if you had the options field filled out, then yes you would have been saging.

t. still sage the shit out of threads on /o/ and /pol/.
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>>28812455
Dam that thing is sweet. Spares on the bed get me hot.
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>>28812409
yes. worst case you're not gonna lose money on it
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>>28812451
>car was stationary and engine was turned off for a few mins at the time those pics were taken
Ok, we're all assuming that the engine was running when those pics were taken. Engine off the temps would have equalized making it look like the temps were too close inlet and outlet. Have another look at it sometime with it running and see if there's enough temperature drop.
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>>28812096
Mechanics will drop the crossmember, use a 3ft 3/8's extension, an impact universal socket, and an impact for those bolts
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>>28812653
yeah sorry i should've led with that first. I figured if it was only off for a few mins it wouldn't equalise the temps that quickly.
car's currently being checked over for registration, hoping to do another run later today if not later in the week. had a lady ask about the car and she thought it was her old man's car because apparently he was a double amputee and had the pedals modified or something...I just nodded along lol. Unless that guy was an old lady or the owner after her...
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My hands hurt from all the fucking hog rings but it's done
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>>28812724
Very nice anon. Upholstery is one of those things I just haven't taken on yet. I'm assuming this was all sold as a kit for your car?

I don't think anything like that exists for my car, so I'm going to have to find a local upholstery shop to do it custom. I've been too afraid of what that will cost to pursue it so far.
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>>28812752
Yea, the covers were premade, the padding kit shockingly wasn't available for it so i ended up getting a Chevelle padding kit. If covers aren't made for your car then it will take a whole different level of skill that quite frankly alot of people don't have
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>>28812760
body panels and interior work like this i don't bother with, way beyond my tool and skill set.
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>>28812760
Fox-platform sedans haven't quite gained enough of a following yet for anyone to be making cover kits for the Fairmont/Zephyr/Granada/Cougar. You can get pretty much anything for the same year Mustang, but the upholstery is different. There's at least one reputable shop in my area that does custom upholstery for anything you want, I just need to get a quote.
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This sweet 50-something chebby tow truck at my job.
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Do you ever see a car that you know is too far gone and still want it?
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>>28812853
no i don't "still want it", i just feel sad
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>>28812790
Someone has to make them, my covers came from 'distinctive industries' I'd be utterly stunned if nobody made the covers for a fox body unless they have some strange patern to them
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>>28812822
Thats not the original plate.
Ill bet its stamped about 1966 (top corner where its flat for the decal).
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>>28793998
That's neat. My dad has a record changer that they used to put in Caddys. Some of those cars had options that werent mainstream for several decades.
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>>28797918
I don't get the restomod hate. Feels like just echoed opinions from purists. Dudes started rebuilding these vehicles because, frankly, they were pretty awful. Heavy, slow, drum brakes, leaf springs all around, etc. Having owned a 56 Chevy 210 I totally get wanting a modern suspension, brakes, and drivetrain. If it's not some unicorn museum piece, who fuckin cares?
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>>28812907
>Heavy, slow, leaf springs
sounds based to me
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>>28812896
this one?
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>>28812937
NTA but those things had such heavy weight on the needle to prevent skipping that it would destroy vinyl in quick order
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ugh. no frigging wonder the valve covers were leaking oil...the bolts were barely finger tight.
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>>28812096
Update, I won
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>>28813181
would've been satisfying as fuck. was it not possible to tilt the engine+gearbox back a bit to get enough room for non-wobble extensions? i don't think i would've been able to get mine out if i had to use u-joints, not enough room for an impact. just wailing on the wrench till they broke loose did it for me.
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>>28813237
I didn’t feel like disconnecting all the shifter stuff, which I would have had to do to tilt the trans. Pretty sure I would have had to tear out the center console and shit.
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>>28813244
oh yea i forgot about that
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>>28813248
bid 30k over asking price on a house (with 2 garages for my projects) and lost out to a higher bid with no conditions
fucking hell
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>>28814103
F
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>>28805318
BOXY!!!!
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Picked this up this week. I want to run gennies on my cars, so this will be helpful once I get it sorted out and on a proper cart.
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>>28815846
if those gennies work well i say we TRIPLE their salary!
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Glasspacks arrived, 30 inch magnaflow. Going to put them on the Matador Coupe next week. I hope my neighbors still love me.
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>>28812930
Based stepside chebby
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>>28816656
It will sound like shit.
Its a hollow, empty sound thats loud for the sake of loud.
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Adding an aux tank to me trugg. Feels good man
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>>28816866
Looks.clean so far.
You have a factory filler neck shield or just going to fab one up?
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>>28817233
Thanks m8. I picked up a factory one off of fleabay and the filler neck came with it free. I got her all buttoned up, no pic til tomorrow but it's spot on. I measured multiple times for the bed side hole and it paid off.
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Hello, I have a not a classic. Ive pulled the rocker panels off to clean up some rust along the pinch seam and now im getting close to reattaching them, but the rockers had both spot welds and adhesive and i dont know what to do
Should I just buy whatever panel bond there is at the local store and send it? Is there something really good thats worth special ordering?
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>>28818488
post a pic, Hitler
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>>28818490
I still need to clean this up but you can see the sealant, it went hard and let moisture in which is why ive had to do all this
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>>28818526
clean it up and re weld and seam seal it again. that's probably the best way unless you want to fully weld the seam, tho you'll have to alternate where you weld to prevent warpage.
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>>28818488
Fuck the panel bond.
Stich weld it back together- about 50/50. Better to do 1/2" weld/gap than 2" weld/gap.
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>>28816866
based fuel capacity chads rise up
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oh boy. took a roundabout hard and the engine stalled. got an edelbrock and looking it up seems to be a known issue with these since the bowls are fore and aft. time to adjust the float levels.
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>>28819517
Did you choose the edelbrock? What's the point of edelbrock carb? always seemed like a strange choice to me
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If I have to take my motor apart to get it unseized, should I just chalk it up to a loss? I have no real desire to do an actual rebuild of the motor but if I can get it going fairly easily by taking it apart I’d rather do that than just go straight to the motor swap. But by doing that am I basically just signing up for a rebuild?
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>>28819517
>took a roundabout hard
If you like doing that, a Holley with center hung/Le Mans bowls is what you desire.
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>>28819571
if you can't get it unseized without pulling heads, it'll most likely need a rebuild.
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>>28819555
Yeah, it's an AVS2. Wanted the annular flow boosters. So far I really like it, there's no stumbling, hesitation or anything. Stomp pedal, car go forward. Only drawback is hot starts can take a while to crank, I might need to plug up the heat crossover since it's got an electric choke.
>>28819575
Thanks, wasn't gonna be a regular thing (at least not until I try adjusting the float), but I did it just as a test run. I wouldn't mind a Holley but I really do like the annular boosters of this carb.
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>>28819642
>I might need to plug up the heat crossover since it's got an electric choke.
That's almost always a good thing to do imo.
Unless you live in a very cold area, you will be better off taking the choke plate out, or cutting it away significantly so it doesn't block much air. Electric chokes cool down much faster than the engine does, so after like 15 minutes the choke will try to do a cold start even though the engine is warm, which can lead to an overly rich mixture and starting problems.
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why are gauges so expensive
anyways since my shitbox has mostly idiot lights i want to put a 3 pack somewhereabouts where the clock is
i was thinking manifold vacuum, oil pressure, voltmeter
since it already has a stock coolant gauge
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>>28820304
it sucks, i've been looking into the same thing. cheapest is the bosch (formerly sunpro) 3 gauge set, but they don't have vac just vac/boost. about 60 bucks for that. cheapest set with what you want is autogage, that's double the price at about 120. individual autometers are about double that at 240.
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>>28820304
>>28820382
Gloshift makes vacuum gauge with no boost.
I had to mention them but honestly its only rice if you have matching underglow and interior moodlighting
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>>28820382
i want to get stewart warner because i think they look the most "proper" if that makes sense. its about 270 for the three ive picked out
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>>28819879
i'm in aus but it can get very cold, sometimes around 50°F. Once in a blue moon it can get even colder than that. Wasn't sure if I'd still need the heat crossover then, some forum boomers were saying that blocking the crossover would result in fuel condensing on the intake walls. I'm not sure how much it'll actually do that.
I think I can rotate the choke housing clockwise to open it up, seems like I can go so far as to basically have it almost completely open. But not sure about doing that - what's your experience in cold weather with having the choke open this much on cold starts?
And as for blocking the crossover, do you just use one of those steel valley pan gaskets that block the crossover port like pic related? Would the exhaust burn through that since it's just stamped steel?
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>>28820476
Cant tell of this is bait or not.
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>>28820802
no i'm just dumb and tend to bumble my way through life like this
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>>28820825
ok nvm lol seems like that gasket will suffice
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Had a nice camping trip in firebird, i think the power steering box is on its way out though, I dont thing the dirt roads were too kind on the already questionable used steering box
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>>28821170
What’s the part number bro I might have one for you
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>>28821341
I want to get a close ratio box anyway so this is more or less a blessing in disguise. Thanks though
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Any boomers here who've painted suspension parts, specifically steering knuckles? Need recommendations for paints that are as good or nearly as good as powder coating.
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>>28821170
why not rattle can the whole thing black so it looks more badass
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>>28821643
Epoxy paint.
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>>28821643
Engine enamel.
Long term results are only as good as your prep work (with any decent paint)
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>>28821660
Its going to be green eventually but i have so much metal work to do to the aftermarket fenders before i can think about paint
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How tall does a garage roof have to be to install a proper lift?
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>>28822898
Car?
11.5 feet
Truck?
14 feet.
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the th350 i put in the square body has TC lockup.
is there an easy way to use it without a bunch of electronics? or is that gay
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>>28823295
lockup is awesome, especially if you have a high stall converter. you'll see your rpms on the highway drop by a couple hundred at least.
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>>28823306
i do drive modern vehicles so I know what lockup is and what it does, i'm wondering about how to get it to work with a vehicle that never came with it.
i don't want a toggle switch because i'll forget about it and break the transmission input shaft or something
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>>28823295
Quick search shows there are some thread about how to do the wiring on boomer forums, as well as

https://design1systems.com/th350-lock-up-wiring-diagram/

And then picrel might be the "easy" option.
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>>28823359
thanks brother.
this truck will never activate the torque converter lockup
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I replaced the thermostat and water pump about 6 months ago but my car still doesn't get very warm. 302 ltd. I don't know how warm exactly but when I first bought the car it would get uncomfortably hot if i left the heat on. The needle on the gauge barely moves now too. Maybe try another thermostat? Idk
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>>28825293
Is there a heater core shutoff valve somewhere near the firewall, maybe vacuum actuated or electric?
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>>28823351
nice highboy dent, mate. auto or 4 speed?
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>>28825320
I don't think so.
Googling it, only the automatic temperature control cars had them (my car isnt)
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>>28825361
Heater core might be plugged up the broski
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>>28825342
Technically highboys were only some 4x4 F250 models with a divorced transfer case. They needed the extra 2" lift for driveshaft clearance.
Thats just a 1/2 ton.
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How simple is a three on the tree for someone who has never driven a manual before?

Hoping to drive the thing home its got a slant 6 totally base model 3 speed.
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>>28821660
Man everyone rattle cans their thing black...

I'm just getting my first project car soon but if car paint isnt much harder to spray than model paint I bet I can get the thing fine.

And for rattle cans with models there's ways you can get a nice smooth finish, just sometimes need to let it cure and sand and polish out orange peel.
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Anything I should be looking out for buying a base model slant 6 three on the tree first gen cuda?

Price is good so I'm kinda going fuck it i'll buy it no matter how awful it is but. If there's any functional bits that really suck ass that I should inspect I could at try somewhat.

I'm /k/ and have rewelded a couple guns from parts kits so I'm not worried at all about rust although maybe I should be but welding is something I kinda like.
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I've done something inexplicably stupid.
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>>28825567
>>28825575
Column shift "worked" for our grandparents.
I have a 3 speed F100 and have no plans or desire to change to floorshift.
Just have to make sure all that linkage is in proper order. It might seem like its no different than an automatic but there is much more load/stress on the manual linkage. Just make sure the pivots aren't wallowed out and rods aren't rusted to shit. But anything thats fubar"d can be rebuilt so not a big deal (unless it fails while youre driving).
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>>28825590
Yes.
Buying a second one was stupid.
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>>28825601
Opinions: Which bumper style looks better?

I'll be selling the gold one. I had done some looking around at what it would take to resolve a last few things with the gold one like the stupid passenger side mirror, the cracked lower dash, etc and it was all able to be resolved but I'd have also needed to get the paint done so it added up. I found the white one and thought it over and made a decision. I'm just going to swap a few bits over like the wheels with the new tires and I'll put it up for sale.

White one needs no bodywork, no paint, has the proper mirrors on both sides, etc etc. It's a little sad because the gold color had actually grown on me and I'm not a big fan of the landau top but I think it'll just be easier in the long run before I get into the heavy meat of the project to start with the white one.
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>>28825342

thanks homie, autotragic :(
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>>28825522

wrong, the f150 also had a divorced xfer case :)
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>>28825624
https://www.motortrend.com/features/what-is-a-ford-highboy
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well ill be damned
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>>28825599
Cool, yeah my plans for the car involve zero aspirations of performance or sportiness and will be only replacing stuff like that if I am forced to due to total self destruction etc.
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>>28825620
I like the bumper on the gold one better. The horizontal rubber just looks right to me
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>>28825465
Coolant flush time i guess
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>>28825694
I, otoh, prefer the bumper on the white one for its visual simplicity. Not a particular fan of the bumperettes either.
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>>28825730
Im with the other guy on the horizontal strip.
And id keep the push horns. Never know when we'll have another Summer of Peace and its nice to drive through without scratching your chrome.
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>>28825694
>>28825730
>>28825753
I'm genuinely surprised at how many differences there are between the two cars. White one is a '79 (officially old enough for /ccg/ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ), gold is an '81. Bumpers are different, carbs are different, air cleaner is different, snorkel is different, the whole vacuum and emissions system under the hood is slightly different, the steering wheels are different, the upholstery is different, the windshield fluid sprayers are different, the fasteners on the turn signal housings are different. What the fuck was Fords problem?

I'm kind of partial to the bumper with the strip myself, so I might swap them. I appreciate the visual simplicity of the bumper on the white one, and oddly enough the slightly wider spacing on the bumperettes, but the black strip makes the front look... Wider? More aggressive somehow?
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>>28825753
>chrome
On the F/Z's it's actually aluminium over a steel backing. Unbolt the aluminum appearance part from the steel and you can hold the thing with one hand at shoulder height with your arm fully extended, it's that light.
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>>28825855
I think it divides the crome of the grilled and the chrome of the bumper better. Without it it's too much uninterrupted chrome imo
And yeah wider appearance is good. A car needs "road presence"
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>>28825855
Vacuum.and emissions is due to regulations changing yearly- its noy a Ford thing.
If wheels are different that suggests different trim evels.
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Reeee what size is this shaft nut? Apparently I dint have a socket on enough in the correct size.
>>28825988
The windshield sprayers, rear end, and HVAC ducts inside the fash are different too. They were all in cocaine or something.
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>>28797918
nigger motor aside the digital-watch display is kindof ass but atleast its not a screen
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>>28812907
because I don't love new vehicles.
I don't want my car to have a digital dash.
I get maybe being annoyed with axle-wrap and slop in the steering and going a step farther than just fixing it, but what if you're talking about a god damn pickup truck, why the fuck are you racing a pickup truck or a 90 year old panel van.
why do you want apple car play in your shit.
why hang tacky ass faggot leds all around the interior?
fucking halo headlights are ugly as shit nigger fuckoff.
there's just so many fads within resto mod nigger community that just sucks ass
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>>28827372
the only digital dash i like are VFD ones
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>>28827372
All resto mods suck. The end.
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>>28827372
>fucking halo headlights are ugly as shit nigger fuckoff.
my biggest pet peeve in the classics world. they shoulld ALL hang.
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>>28827372
>I get maybe being annoyed with axle-wrap and slop in the steering and going a step farther than just fixing it
caltracs ftw
as for steering, if you can get a borgeson box for your car, that's about as close as you can get to rack and pinion without actually going to that. don't mind me a rack and pinion conversion though. for mopars if it can keep the torsion bars that's a win
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>>28825628
Ford perfection
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>>28825590
Gee Bill, your mom lets you have two hotdogs?
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>>28812907
>Bro what if we painted a car some faggot fruit color, gave it some giant negro wheels, made it so low it's impossible to drive over a speed bump, and removed all of the trim. oh yeah and cut the cabin in half to make it harder to see out of
>source: every "surviving" 1949-51 mercury
all boomers must fucking hang
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>>28827372
>why hang tacky ass faggot leds all around the interior?
coastie seething

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