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First with transverse engine with end on gearbox and mcpherson struts and hatch and all the other b0llocks you expect from a hatchback. All those bits came together there.
Blame them.

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There's also this thing, bit older but it doesn't feature mcpherson struts yet. Don't mean to argue with OP, but the Primula is just often brought up as the first real fwd hatchback so I thought would mention it

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>>28824199
The first hatchback was a 5 door though.

Clamshell hatchbacks are the only true hatchbacks not barn door

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Some of the greatest hatchbacks to ever exist were 5 doors

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wow, pinnacle of automotive design.

>>28824199
If a car has 5 doors it should be called a wagon. A proper hatchback only has 3.

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>>28824385
Forgot to add image

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>>28824385
Wagons have a D-pillar

>>28824199
This only has 2 doors, though.

>>28824394
I know, traditionally they do. But you still wouldn’t call a hatchback with 5 doors a sedan. It needs a separate trunk. That’s why I propose calling 5 door “hatchbacks” a wagon

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>>28824199
A112 is a great choice

>>28824290
You should kill your self NOW

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I hate the trend of edgy headlights

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>>28824557
natural consequence of LEDs not needing 3 inch projectors to get a decent light output, the alternative is the Alfa 4C approach where they just kinda stick em wherever

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>>28824577
based fellow Capri enthusiast

>>28824257
would be better as a 3 door

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For me, it's the Saab 600

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3 door is kino with a fastback roofline, but 5 door is the way. 3 door ruins practicality and makes me assume the owner is pretending their shrunken down minivan is a sports car.

More than two doors is a taxi

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The king of shitboxes

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>does this outfit make my ass look fat?

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>>28824257

>>28825559
Technically not a hatchback though.

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>>28825568
Pic has to be an honorary hatch.

>>28825061
>lancia
>in scandanavian winter
Give it about 4 days before the chassis folds like an origami

>>28825576
Do they Salt. I bet they don't.

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>>28824394

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Rad

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruR8Zir13JQ

>>28825626
My father had a couple. Apparently they were very safe because there was nothing inside to beat your self up on when the accident happened.

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A person fave of mine along with the Nissan Pulsar SSS and Daihatsu Cuore

>>28825600
they do

>>28825626
iirc you could unlock the Ritmo's doors with half a ping pong ball used as a suction cup or something

>>28829107
A lot of doors could be opened that way at the time. I think the BBC demonstrated it, which was nice.

>>28825605
It's entirely possible that I'm misunderstanding your post because that's easy to do when you're a vagueposting subhuman like some kind of ESL caveman who can only communicate through visual imagery, but the Focus only has a C pillar. It by his definition is a hatchback.

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>>28825508
>>28825540
>>28824577
>>28825027
>>28824290
Fastbacks are coupes. To be a hatchback, the roof should extend significantly behind the B-pillar, if it curves down immediately it's a coupe.

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>>28824385
>>28824394
It's a size thing. Smallish ~midsize and below sedan becomes hatchback, midsize to full size becomes wagon. I don't think anyone would ever call this a hatchback.

>>28829148
>To be a hatchback, the roof should extend significantly behind the B-pillar
True, however,
>if it curves down immediately it's a coupe
If the glass moves then it would be a liftback. A fastback-styled hatchback.

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>>28829155
If we want to get pedantic, that's a shooting brake. Also a custom job, the actual station wagons looked like picrel

>>28829163
A shooting brake is still a wagon. It's a subset of wagon but still a wagon. I mean these are all subsets of cars but you would never say "technically that's not a car, that's a hatchback". Family genus species type shit.

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>>28829172
In that case, wagons are a subset of hatchback, because they have a hatch on the back. As are SUVs and Crossovers.

>>28829155
>>28829194
hatchbacks have minimum rear overhang, wagons/estates do.
Imagine a sedan.
If you chop off the trunk, you get a hatchback, if you extend the cabin over the trunk, you get an estate/wagon.

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>>28829194
Forgot to add, I still think the A, B, C, D pillar definition is the clearest way to delineate the body styles.
>>28829196
>if you extend the cabin over the trunk, you get an estate/wagon
This generally necessitates adding a D pillar. I'll accept it though.

While >we are at it, >we can all agree that there is no such thing as a 4-door coupe and 4-door shooting brake, right?

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>>28829204
>no such thing as a 4-door coupe
sure
>4-door shooting brake
not sure, if anything 2-door shooting brakes are the anomaly
they're meant to carry you, your lads, and all your gear to the hunt
hard to do that with only 2 doors

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>>28829208
Personally I think as long as there's no D pillar but the car is still looong it's a shooting brake and not a wagon.

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>>28829210
behold, a shooting brake
(it's a golf)

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>>28824199
I love my hatchback. It's also a convertible.

>>28829214
A shooting break should have a long hood, front-mid engine layout preferably.

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>>28829220
I think that might be a pickup

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>>28829228
Oh, yeah. I guess the tail-hatch-gate goes the wrong way.

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real hatchbacks dont have a c pillar

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>>28829223
I'm inclined to agree, although I think it's more vibes based than most body styles, and there are some short wheelbase 3-door hatches that have shooting brake vibes. Might have something to do with the size of the rear side windows. Or how far the behind the rear seats the C pillar is?
>>28829242
I'd say being on a truck frame disqualifies it too, but idk how to define that without excluding body-on-frame cars.
>>28829251
>liftback coupe

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>>28825513
That's fine. Call it what you like.
>>28825619
They're fun, but they rusted out even in Australia's dry climate.

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>>28829144
Retard confirmed

>>28829214
That actually looks pretty nice, like an Audi version of the Scirocco. I fucking hate that we didn't get those in the States.

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>>28829352
The Scirocco was honestly kinda shit. Used the mk5 Golf chassis despite being styled like (and sold alongside) the mk6, cost significantly more than the Golf for the exact same drivetrain, wasn't as practical as the Golf, and worst of all, the R version wasn't allowed to surpass the Golf as the performance flagship so they nerfed its power output by 5hp and refused to give it AWD, despite it clearly being possible on the mk5 chassis since it was on the TT and Golf R32.

>>28829386
>it's not a pillar, because it just isn't, okay?

>>28829390
>Used the mk5 Golf chassis despite being styled like (and sold alongside) the mk6
Mk6 Golf is just a big facelift of Mk5

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>>28829214
>could've had a clownshoe TT
world is unfair

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>>28829252
>I'd say being on a truck frame disqualifies it too
Phew, I'm in the clear.

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>>28824199
What about 1 door hatchbacks?

why the fuck do you people consider the hatch a door?? you dont fucking get in from there do you?

>>28829478
thats the rare hatchfront

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>>28829486
In Australia, Hatches were called three door and five door to distinguish them from two door and four door models, which were sedans.Laser is based on the Mazda 323 Familia [BD}.

>>28829413
It also received a Mk7-ish facelift but never got updated to MQB. During the last years of the Scirocco it was a strictly inferior car to the Golf that cost more money for no reason.

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>>28829252
>I'd say being on a truck frame disqualifies it too
Dang. I just wanted to be a silly little guy, but I think you might be on to something.

>>28829429
>AMC Eagle
Hell yeah.

>>28829486
you could if you wanted to
it opens into the passenger compartment so it gets counted as a door

>>28829486
>you dont fucking get in from there do you?
But I could.

it is in the language
retards over here often confuse dual cab utilities with coupé utilities
the boot lid is a hatch opening

forms aren’t real
a hatchback is whatever I call a hatchback

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>>28830092
do you like these hatchbacks

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>>28829251
If your Eunos is a hatchback, I'm guessing this is too.

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>>28830528
>hatch
>in the back
>connected to the passenger compartment
sure why not

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>>28829172
>A shooting brake is still a wagon. It's a subset of wagon but still a wagon


A shooting brake is exclusively a hatchback based off a grand tourer or sportscar

>>28825521
true that. My 2015 swift sport is just the best. Such a fun car.

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>>28830535
What about cars that are designed as shooting brakes from the outset?

>>28824290
That's a liftback