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Women biologically are more nurturing than men which i guess has a role to play in driving attitudes but on a race track, they're gonna be interested enough to know what they're doing.

And now, bring in the sexism posts!!!

You really think this incel cave is the right place to ask that?

>>28824961
>pictured: Lars Ulrich circa 1983

>>28824954
What if the vast majority of women simply don't like driving?

That's the truth.

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On average, maybe. Let's not pretend though that most men are any more than just "okay" drivers at best as well, they simply don't get called out on it as much.
For OP pic related, I don't see the point because professional drivers no matter the sex will always outperform normies.

Aside from that: incel thread, see SPBP.

On average theyre slower and more cautious. Less crashes. To be a top tier racing driver you need to completely disregard personal safety and be willing to die. Some cars also have manual steering and many have manual brakes so stronger muscles can be advantageous.

>>28824964
JUMP IN THE QUAT-TRO

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It’s a difficult question to answer as we are ostensibly not a society that equally socializes and teaches the two genders in the same way.
Men will typically have other male role models that are willing to teach them, and live under a regime that stereotypically considers them the “better” driver, thus they gain the necessary confidence to drive (hesitation causes crashes). However this can also spillover into excessive confidence, hence our insurance rates.
Women on the other hand are socialized not to enjoy the act of driving and are seldom taught to drive out of nothing more than sheer necessity, and thus never develop the love for cars and driving men do, leading to less confidence or care and thus more low-level accidents. But since they do not have the overconfidence of men, they are typically safer drivers in general and avoid catastrophic accidents.
These are generalizations, however. Some women go on to become race car drivers and some men will never change the oil in their car. It’s simply too complex a topic to answer on the 4chins in a single post.

>>28825045
Its not that complex. Men and women are different creatures with different biology, proclivities, skill sets and so on. Everything a woman can do, a man can do just as competently or better including raising children. In more physical sports, professional level adult women practice against teenage boys, because that age is where the physical capability difference begins to outrun women entirely.
Thats not to say women can never individually rise to the level of top competition in a male dominated sports; they will however always be a rare outlier and an exception.

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>>28824961
Imagine rolling a classic Quattro that you had years of experience in driving over literally nothing at a event for novelty purposes and not actually competing.

https://youtu.be/5SSjlvJdhAI?si=Cnf7fK6IiOfdRQGU

>>28824961
Go back

>>28824954
>Is it true that female drivers on average are worse at driving than men or is it unfounded misogyny?
Define "better and worse". Faster? or safer?

>>28825053
Holy bodyroll Batman

>>28825053
And? You never stubbed your toe around the house youve lived in for years?

>>28825120
Not while driving a priceless historical rally car

>>28825053
>Imagine driving a Lancia S4 you had years of experience in driving off a cliff over literally nothing

>>28824954
danica patrick isnt really a good example, she was around for as long as she was simply because she was hot and marketable. if we're talking about motorsports, most women arent really interested in cars the same way men are so there's not that many of them. plus higher tier disciplines like f1 is too much for a female's body to handle because of all the g's you gotta take thanks to the insane amount of downforce a modern f1 car has

femoids are poor drivers because of their terrible audio-visual senses. they dont have the predatory hunter gene like men do. which means their depth perception is off, they have poor instincts and poor audio-visual perception as well. simply put , they suck.

>>28824954
My wife doesn't understand how the position of the sun relates to the direction of shadows. That's all I'm going to say.

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>>28825170
Thats tough man. Sorry to hear that.

>>28825124
I fail to see what relevance this has.

just watch some endurance racing. whenever the iron dames enter the track chaos and pandemonium soon follows

>>28824954
My answer to this is Fernando Alonso's sister. The kart he first raced in as a toddler was originally built by his dad for her (dad loved karting and she was the right age to start) but she was completely uninterested in it, while Fernando was. He ended up modifying the kart so his son could drive it even though he was too small to reach the controls normally. Karting from such a young age, is, of course exactly what you need to do to become an F1 driver. So this little girl was in the perfect position to become a professional race car driver with supportive family, presumably good genes insofar as it matters, etc, but she never did because she just didn't like driving.

>>28825167
Explain female Top Gun pilots

>>28825304
The GOAT - RIP
>That Transit run

>>28824954
Speaking of young age – Lauda started racing at 19, Senna at 13, and Verstappen was already racing karts at 4, and entered F1 at 17 (earlier than Lauda began racing in an amateur racing series).

What's next – karting for 2-year-olds?

>>28825303
DEI

>>28825348
Then you're an idiot

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>>28825304
>Sabine Schmitz died in 2021
Jfc

>>28825170
kek you're the one who married her bro don't look at us

>>28824954
Women tend to get into more minor crashes because they're bad drivers.
Men tend to get into more major crashes because they're retarded.

There's a reason insurance is cheaper for women.

>>28825051
Men aren't as good at raising children and it's just a fact.
There's a massive bonding experience during breast feeding.
It's a well documented fact that babies that are breastfed tend to have better relationships with their moms than those that don't.

>>28825367
cancer though, not a crash

>>28825408
>Men aren't as good at raising children and it's just a fact.
Look up statistical outcomes of single mother vs single father households. Single mother household outcomes are absofuckinglutely abysmal, while single fathers achieve outcome parity with two parent households.

>>28825408
Nice, so all I gotta do to beat my wife at child-raising is induce lactation and then force my kid to only drink milk from my own tits, and keep the wive's milk for myself.

>>28825408
you're female
I spit on you

>>28825438
Single mothers get the short end of the stick because the baby's daddy abandons them.
Single fathers, which is a magnitude more rare than single mothers btw, who "step up" are going to be in a much better situation to raise the kid.

>>28825546
Breast milk isnt a requirement to raise children that arent psychotic crack heads

>>28825572
you are right but it still proves that men are more than capable of raising children on their own

>>28825122
why would you be driving a rally car inside your house

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Im a big Danica fan.

>>28825630
Im rich

>>28824954
It must be true. If there were some woman who could compete in F1, they would sign her instantly. The marketing prospects alone would be a gold mine.

>>28825170
The perfect woman.

>>28825657
Lewis and Lando puff wieners.

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>>28824963
She's not going to fuck you anon, give it a rest.

>>28824954
Biologically speaking, Women are inferior when it comes to physical shit.
Can't produce children but laps have a body that's super physically superior.
Simple as.

>>28824963
You will never be a woman.

>>28825665
What the fuck would being gay have to do with one's ability to drive? I cannot even begin to try and guess what the fuck this post is even trying to convey.

>>28825572
>short end of the stick
>divorce rape
>>28825698

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>>28824954
Yeah the top drivers are mostly men, but it's not just because women suck at driving.
Compared to men; very few women care about driving, so they don't try, and you have to try if you want to be really good. Also women don't have the upper body strength that it takes to drive some cars.
One advantage women do have is getting sponsor money. Women are good at that, and it's something you need if you want to be a pro driver in current year +10

>>28824954
Women cause more accidents than men per mile driven. People try to play this off and say, "oh women get into fender benders, men get into huge accidents!" This is a lie spread by women, there are no stats to corroborate it, and plenty to refute it. See: >>28825016 >>28825045 >>28825407

DOT Federal Highway Administration, as of May 31st, 2022, men drive an average of 16,550 miles per year, whereas for women the average is 10,142 miles.
The University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute says there are 104.3 million men in the US with a drivers license, compared to 105.7 million women. More recent stats put those numbers closer to 115 million men and 117 million women.

> The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reports that men cause on average 6.1 million accidents annually compared to the 4.4 million caused by women annually
So men cause 1 accident for every 312,000 miles driven on average, and at current rates a male driver would be expected to cause an accident once for every 18.85 years of driving.
Women cause 1 accident for every 269,700 miles driven on average, and at current rates a female driver would be expected to cause an accident once for every 26.59 years of driving.

If women in the United States drove as much as men, and the accident rate were maintained, then female drivers would be expected to cause an accident once for every 16.29 years of driving, bringing that 4.4 million annual accidents caused by women to over 7.18 million.
If men and women drove equally, and the NHTSA's 10.5 million at-fault accidents per year were maintained, women would cause roughly 5.8 million of those accidents, whereas men would cause around 4.7 million.
The distribution of severity, split by lethal versus non-lethal accidents, doesn't change with age group or gender. Mile for mile women of any age kill more people on the road than men of any age, but they drive so much less that they're less of a risk overall.

>>28826106
In addition, women don't pay less for insurance on average than men anymore. That was true at one time, but it actually reversed as women started driving more in the early 2000s and eventually reached a point where women pay more on average. If you go purely on statistics this makes sense, because women consistently cause more accidents than men. However, like the health insurance industry before them, the auto insurance industry has caught a lot of flack for "discriminating" by gender (using statistics to do their job is SEXIST!) and has generally moved away from it, instead just bumping up and evening out rates across the board.

So, to be clear, women are worse drivers, cause more accidents mile-for-mile, kill more people mile-for-mile, and now their insurance is subsidized by the men who are better drivers because it was "sexist" to make them pay for their own incompetence.

>>28826106
You care about this too much

>>28826126
Yeah this tier of foid-hate is encroaching on being homosexual.

>>28826135
ok foid

>>28825122
Just to clarify: at the time it wasn't an antique. Audi like every rally participant except Lanciduh had a production line of backup cars and parts because shit like this is what happens in rally.

>>28824954
>classifieds
>LADY DRIVEN car
Is this somehow supposed to convince me your car is particularly in great condition? By virtue of being a woman driver, there is an inherent 50% chance that you either curbed the shit out of those wheels at the mall, or you ,,accidentally'' swiped a pillar at an underground parking.

Just look at esports where they tried SO hard to accommodate women and Riot games being faaaar left feminists.. They threw money, coaches, and scholarships at women. Only for women to suck ass on the pro scale.
Genetics and sexual dimorphism are real things. Men have been trained to hunt and take risks. We look further into the distance. That said, our willingness to take extreme risks may balance it out in women's favor.

>>28826159
https://www.google.com/search?q=tokyogurl+cheater&tbm=nws
lmao

>>28824954
Women crash a lot more often, they crash into random things at walking pace every other month whereas men take out trees at 100mph.

>>28826159
Look, I'm saying this... My mom and dad were both military pilots. Me mum outranked my dad, just below general. Growing up, my parents had equal authority in the house, my mom actually was the understood leader. I truly believe that in this world of technology women have better skills for a lot of things.
But driving cars at death's edge for fun and numbers? That's a mostly male thing. I've known chicks into it though.
Driving cars safely from point A to B at commuter speeds? It's hard to say with confounding factors like drugs and cellphone distractions. I'm inclined to say women are bettter drivers in general because I, a man, do dumb shit solely for fun and I've never seen a woman do that,

>>28826152
No, it's the exact opposite.
Lady driven car means there ain't a single straight panel on the car, curbed wheels, maintenance has been skipped and neglected and it smells like shit in the car.

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>>28824954
Yes, women can't into weight transfer

Women are the worst. I'm on the roads for ten hours a day working as a courier and women are the worst drivers who feel entitled to more tarmac than they deserve.

I can write ten pages listing examples but believe me women drivers are the worst drivers on the road. Second are Jeets who try to drive their Camrys like motorbikes. Third place of worst drivers are boomers who are self-entitled cunts.

I hate women so much it's unreal.

Also, they drive bad.

>>28824977
If your woman doesn't like driving then she should be my gf so I can drive her to places like the adult cinema and the pool hall.

>>28825170
Does she understand or recognize object permanence?

>>28826135
Show us your fucking tits you stinky brat

>>28824954
I think they'll be near enough the same on average as men.
But I think men will make up more of the extremes on the curves - both the best and worst of drivers.
It's like an IQ distribution.
Very few women actually drive may be another factor to consider. The ones smart enough to drive well may already have a man who will be willing to drive for them.

>be me
>have trad fiance who is untainted with the evils and truths of the world
>doesn't use social media, and has especially never heard of 4chin
>doesn't even use profanity
>constantly make women and race jokes around her though
>she always rolls her eyes
>for the longest time, she assumed I wasn't actually serious
>little did she know
>when in car together, always point out to her a woman or minority when seeing dumb drivers
>showing her the pattern
>be in a parking lot one time with fiance in passenger seat
>retarded SUV has all the wrong angles and is fucking up parking
>waiting and getting irritated
>catch a glimpse of the driver
>"oh look, a woman"
>see driver even better
>"and she's mexican"
>fiance unexpectedly says "double whammy"
>look at her in absolute shock since she's never acknowledged my women/minority comments nor is the type to say those things
>mfw I realized I've been slowly making her sexist/racist all this time

>>28826535
and then everyone clapped

>>28825408
7 out of 10 cases of child abuse happen at the hands of the mother.

>>28825045
What a load of horseshit.
Here’s my takeaway from this thread

-we have facts showing women are worse drivers
-we have made up stories explaining why it’s not their fault

>>28826558
Thats how simps deal with everything

>>28824954
From an actually measured area (3d spatial reasoning), women do tend to score worse than men. Which would imply that most women are bad at driving when the ability to spatially reason is required. Women also on average are far more risk adverse than men. These two things mean that a woman is more likely to back into a car/pole/barrier, or grind their car on car/wall/etc. But they are less likely to get into a crash at speeds or due to a maneuver that was risky. This is why the insurance rates reflect it.

>>28826191
>>28826814
Head-canon, reality disagrees.
>>28826106
>>28826107

>>28825045
that's not true though. women are shit drivers because (generally speaking as compared to men) they have shit depth perception and spatial awareness. they have less confidence because they are shit drivers.
>Some women go on to become race car drivers
which is in a different (lower skill) league from male race car drivers.

>>28826139
>>28826455
I'm a KHHV chudcel who absolutely despises foids, but even i wouldnt write such a long paragraph filled with sources about why foids are evil, thats some dedication

I feel like the thing about they not having peripheral vision is true as I've gotten side ended TWICE in the past because they didn't see my big metal cage next to theirs and they were trying to change lanes

>>28824954
They're not good. As actual top level racer, I have seen a few women come and go. They simply do not have the aggression for it. Even if they had the spatial reasoning, the reaction time, the muscle, the endurance (they have none of these) they still don't have the mindset for it.

I've seen women do well, quite well actually, in junior karting divisions (like under age 15), but they can't hang once they get to fullsize karts where the racecraft becomes ruthless and calculated, and they certainly can't hang in formula cars, or especially GT/touring cars.

Maybe these days in certain classes they can do alright, but that's more about the bar being lowered substantially in the last two decades - especially in GT racing.

>>28827124
Also, I'm talking about being a contender. Like on the podium in a ladder series type of contender, someone people are timing in practice and keeping tabs on.

Sure, their dad can spend a million dollars and they can dink around mid-pack in some pay-to-play F2000 or Renault or something larping as a professional, but that's not really what we're talking about. Plenty of men do that exact same thing, in fact that's most of the grid at any given race in any given series.

>>28827006
>I'm just like you, fellow chud
>but if you hate women any more than me (I totally hate women just like you) then you are GAY
Go away

Lel

>>28826106
>>28826107
You're wrong.
>>28826897
You're dumb.

>>28825053
Charles Leclerc crashed a 1974 Ferrari F1 car taking a drive through monte carlo

dumb shit happens to everyone

>>28825167
>hunter gene
bro your ancestors were irish fishermen stfu kek

>>28825408
>was never breast fed
>text only basis
Checks out though I think it's more the spraying citrus acid on my eyes because "the vitamin c will make your eyes better" that destroyed our relationship not the lack of breast feeding. Yeah they should've given my dad full custody but meehhh justice system is crap.

>>28827682
>The NHTSA and DOT are wrong!
>Actual statistics from the insurance industry are wrong!
Got anything to back that up or are you just mad?

>>28824954
That's my wife

>>28825427
sucks she probably wanted to go out in a ball of fire too

>>28824954
I think women could be good at driving if they actually liked it, the problem is they don't see the point and will never git gud, because the ones who are weirdos and like going fast can be the best at it.

>>28825304
case in point

>>28828058
Feel free to post something substantial instead of your schizo drivel.
We're all waiting on it.

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>>28826535
Keep it going bro

>>28825225
Interesting

>>28828663
>case in point
what exactly did she do, apart from competing amateurs in CHC and NLS, offering rides around the burgering, failing in both the wtcc and satc?
>but she won burgering against nobodies in '96 and '97
if you don't know who Johannes Scheid (this is the driver that also drove with Sabine in the 24h burgerring) is, then you will realize what's the impact of Sabine in motorports.
She is a nobody and got famous because she had a pussy.
women are bad at everything including wheels, they only get attention due to pussy.
Danika Patrick is another example, at least she is hot and it was fun watching her crash.
All of those bitches occupy a position that a man, which has better potential to become a great driver, could get.

>>28825128
this whole myth of having to be an athlete to drive single seaters is made up to make untalented 5'7" formula one drivers look like athletes. i'm pretty sure indycar when danica drove was more taxing on the neck in ovals than f1 is. yes, women are inferior, but the sport is uncompetitive as a whole and doesn't compare to other sports.

>>28825053
come on, she was in the best car by far for years and years and only managed one rally win, i think it was san remo, where rohrl was in an uncompetitive opel that claimed the championship anyway and her team mate had isseus. there is actually no evidence at all of her beating a male team mate in the same car over a rally. if both cars finished without mechanical issues or crashes, she never beat walter rorhl on hannu mikkola over a rally in the same car. not once. if she were a male, she would have been sacked after one season.

>>28828641
It's true

>>28824954
It is hard to determine the origin of gender bias because we live in a gender biased society. To test this, you would need to raise lots of children as neutrally as possible and see what happens.

Anything else is speculation at best.

>>28827154
I literally havent felt the touch of a woman in my entire 23 years of life nigga. Ive grown past the point of hating women, now that im old... i just accept this shit as their biology

>>28824954
Most women have some sort of sensory/coordination deficiency which makes them bad at most sports compared to men. Have you ever gotten toothy head? You tried to explain it to her right? And she just didn't get it, right? If you have a sister you've probably thrown shit at each other right? And she always misses right? Even after decades of sibling fits right? You think if it came easy to her she'd figure out how to do it correctly right? There's no misogyny in accepting that women have been selectively bread to be docile and intellectually unmotivated, regardless of how much men cuck themselves for anything bigger than B cups and enable arrogance and defiance, that lacks any productive form of intelligence