>shrewd business man or religious zealot
U b da judg

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>you will own nothing

>>28827641
>can charge at home through your own solar panels
>petrol snifffers will claim this is more cucked than being reliant on arab poopers oil
Alright

>>28827639
>You'd think Japan would love this shit considering their love for tech?
There's a joke in economics where there's the US, the world, Venezuela, and Japan.

The Japanese are fine with kei cars. In fact, they're so cheap and economical that the cost-basis for an EV is too expensive and doesn't even register on their radar.

>>28827869
US is a net exporter of oil.

>>28827902
US oil economics is a little more complicated than that. The world needs oil but the US is one of the few nations that can refine oil into any composition that is in demand. They're also one of the few nations that can refine extremely low quality crude profitably.

Russia and China can do it, but nowhere near as efficiently, and they end up burning a lot of the byproduct instead of refining it into something useful. India is trying, but India has a habit of being horrifically unproductive so they just end up burning it too.

>>28827639
>considering their love for tech?
people who think japan "loves" tech has clearly never been to japan. most of the country is still stuck in the 50s. they have one of the most technologically advanced infrastructures but on a personal, individual level, most citizens are still just regular ass people.
no the country you're thinking of is south korea

>>28827899
>kei cars
The reason kei cars are popular in Japan is simply because they have low taxes.
People who aren't stingy own hybrids.

>>28827911
This is because Japan demands high reliability, exceeding 99% reliability.
The foundation of South Korea's technology originates from Japan and Western countries, and their products cannot achieve higher precision without chemical materials manufactured in Japan.

>>28827639
>Seething because the EV fad is coming to a close
>"I know what to do! Concern troll!"

>>28827902
Under a capitalist economy, wherein natural resources are owned by a private company and their prices are subject to global markets -- that resource may as well be owned by a foreign country.

It's good to view your own household as a net importer of oil. Maybe that works for you or maybe the alternative works better for you.

>>28827899
>The Japanese are fine with kei cars.
Yes, but its a taxation thing.
But it also helps it went trough several phases, which meant a lot of failed kei types got out of the market. So by this point its nice doors, nice MPG, acceptable acceleration seating 1,5 people, and decent cargo space in some of them.

And one should savor the thought
The kei car isn't a "shitbox". Its a "very acceptable shitbox", which is very different from owning something like a Ford Ka.

>>28827639
>You'd think Japan would love this shit considering their love for tech?
Absolutely not if you understood the cost of vehicle ownership in nipland

>>28827639
car ownership in japan is like this. If you want practicality, you go for smallass box kei cars. If you want a nice car, you go for the badge. Not even lexus sells well in nipland cause japanese think the badge is not prestigious enough. Those that go for middle ground are very few in number like people that live in countryside, or some enthusiasts. Therefore, there's no space for EVs because it's not as cheap nor has the prestige.

>>28827869
This would be great if every electric car wasn't tied to the cloud and can be shut off at any moment in time. Also you going to bring a mobile solar panel charger for any trip longer than 300 miles? If not then you are still dependent on the government grid.

>>28827639
Vovlo is owned by the chinese, anything this guy says is a joke.

>>28827911
They had some high tech stuff in the 90s and basically stayed there.

>>28827639
This is the problem with myopic thinking.
Good example here; Africa. South America.
Those two continents account for a several millions of sales a year but cannot run an electric car network, and most their power is still generated from coal or oil - not very green.

There's a reason Ford just wrote off something like $19bn in green energy go-to-market readiness.

They know better.

>>28827639
Religious retardation from the Chinese owned Volvo. Japan cannot support EV infrastructure and this has already been debated and agreed upon in Japan.

>>28827927
It's funny because it's not the current EV fad dying that's the issue, it's the fact that their is going to be a new objectively better EV generation that will make all the early adopters and countries like China and European ones look like retards. They are all spending billions on desperatly trying to support a lifestyle in which everyone can't own things, but new EV and hybrid tech is going to make them just better cars that people can own rather than be tied to some heavily controlled infrastructure

>>28828212
>If you want practicality, you go for tiny kei cars.
Fuel efficiency is pretty bad, though.
>Not even Lexus sells well in Japan because Japanese people think the badge isn't prestigious enough.
Have you never been to Japan?
>People who choose EVs in Japan
A few enthusiasts, or those who installed solar panels at home and use them as commuter vehicles, purchasing the equipment and EV with various subsidies.

>>28828294
What the fuck are you on about?

They don't have any of the raw materials to make them on their own. If you only require a small portion of foreign materials to make a vehicle, such as the batteries they use for hybrids, then it's not an issue for them for huge bonus in fuel economy. But when it's the basis for the entire vehicle like it is for EVs, then it's untenable.
It's why they have been trying to turn toward hydrogen and motor-assist transmissions attached to engines. That approach allows them to keep foreign material input low or isolated to a smaller component, allowing them to take steps to reach their environmental goals.

>>28828241
Unlike petrol stations that are somehow working independantly from government infrastructure? A personnel-less charging station is more likely to work in a post-apocalyptic setting than a petrol station.

>>28827639
the eu is walking back the ice ban so not anytime soon. there are probably reasons why volvo has never been a successful car company.

>>28828241
Anon, this has been a thing for gas cars ever since Onstar was introduced in the 90s.

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>>28827639
>September 09 2025