>>28828454
might as well go full sprinter

>>28828454
Theyre very uncomfortable (seats are designed for road crews & prisoners).
Climate control is only for front seats and the rear just gets what drifts back.

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>>28828454
The only negative I usually hear is the engine is more difficult to work on, than say a pickup based Suburban.

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>my family

>>28828476
Does the Sprinter have a V8?

>>28828454
not only should you buy one, you should buy one and reupholster it

>>28828454
they have an interior literally from 2005. the seats are bargain bin tier.
cruise control is an option, not standard.
NVH? yes. everything rattles or is hard touch materials. the ride is worse than a pickup.
dogshit dynamics because RWD with a long wheelbase and no weight in the rear. hope it doesn’t snow where you are because youre never getting traction if it does
they are less safe than modern SUVs in a crash
they get dogshit fuel economy

they are good at 3 things: seating 8+, running forever, and being mildly inexpensive. but a Ford Transit is a substantially better vehicle for roughly the same price

so it doesn't appear like you kidnapped the kids

>>28828454
These are the poorfag vans churches buy to take teenagers and elderly people who don’t drive on field trips. Honestly they’re uglier than the pre-1996 Chevy vans.

>>28828454
none except its gm

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>>28828454
>Give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a Chevy Express
Can't. perfection can't be improved
>>28828495
Owner here, very much a fallacy. with the doghouse off it's so easy to deal with. You even have a nice comfy seat to sit on while you're doing it, even under the hood there's plenty of space. The duramax 6.6 diesel's that came in a few of them however is tough It's a really really tight fit.

>>28830175
>t. Poser who takes his bike to paid parks because his van wouldnt make through the sand to the campsite in Ocotillo/Glamis.

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>>28830201
Huh?
Park the van and use the bike all day. Never had an issue.
If you need a 4x4, Quigley's got you covered for the Express conversion.

Needs a trans tune or something done to it. Last time I drove one for work, highway entries were always a gamble because they wouldn't shift down into second

>>28828454
I've driven lots of the cargo variants and they're pretty terrible to drive in town. Maybe the windows on these make it better but these always feel a lot bigger than they are. My Suburban feels like I'm driving a big wagon in comparison. They're also terrible in the winter at least in an open diff fleet spec with shitty tires. You're definitely going to want the G80 and some real good tires and a lot of weight over the rear axle if you're going to drive in slippery shit. Also don't listen to people shit talking the seats. While they're not GMT800 tier they're still much more comfy than most modern rock hard seats, at least the 2 front seats. The rear seats are probably good enough for your kids.

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>>28828454
>Give me a reason why I shouldn't buy a Chevy Express to drive my family around in, instead of a minivan or crossover.

Gas mileage, maneuverability. That's about it. If you don't mind paying for gas and you can deal with it being huge then its great.

>>28831044
Gas will be bad but not unbearable. People with the 6.6 and the 8 speed seem to be getting 20ish highway. City will obviously be worse but it definitely won't be 10mpg. Considering it's a 400hp full sized van that's not bad.

>>28828454
How many kids do you have? If it's 4 or less just get a used Mazda 5.

>>28828454
Are you looking for a free one-way ticket to a latin american hellhole courtesy of ICE?
Because that's who drives those things. (i hope you get deported anyways)

>>28828454
It doesn't have Scooby doo or ben10 stickers. But that's easily fixed with $10.

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>>28828454
Make it a van conversion and you're right on the money, the comfort is night and day vs the rental-spec passenger van. They do make 'flat top' conversions if things like parking garages are at all a concern, too.
Luckily since these haven't really changed in years, you can find one that's a few years old and depreciated a bit and you'll still be good to go. Fleets regularly run these 500k+ miles, some examples going 800-900k+ without a rebuild, so buying one with a few miles on it shouldn't be a big deal. I'd just recommend sticking with a 2500 especially on the older ones, since you get a stronger transmission (older 1500s had the 4Lslippy, 2500+ had the 4L80) and axles.
For the few things that actually go wrong in these, like the oil pump pickup tube or spark plug changes (with those rear-most spark plugs being a PITA) the doghouse design has plenty of advantages. For anything else in the front like belts, there's also a load of space once you remove the large plastic fan shroud.

>>28828454
Because you're kids will think your a fucking weirdo for the rest of your life.

Buy an Oddy, stop this silly shit. Unless you have 7 kids.

>>28832350
yep I'm gonna get an oddysey next month

>>28828550
> seating 8+, running forever, and being mildly inexpensive.
Those are all very important. Arguably the most.

I don’t disagree on your points about it riding like shit.

Because the Ford Transit exists for that reason. Just a flat out comfier vehicle and I have driven both extensively.

>>28828454
Gas mileage, I assume.
BTW what's better between this and an Econoline? I like to pretend I'll be able to afford to live in a van one day.

>>28828550
>roughly the same price
you are retarded

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>>28830175
>You even have a nice comfy seat to sit on while you're doing it
Do you have a double length back with extra articulation? I'm no stranger to removing the doghouse to work on Express van engines and you basically have to lay stomach down on the floor.

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>>28828550
>cruise control
Use case for this?

>>28833673
nice to drive with your hands in your lap on the highway, also its just sort of a second set of hands to keep you in your lane if you fuck up

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>>28833669
>Do you have a double length back with extra articulation?
No i'm just over 5'9
>v6
The worst engine choice in those.

>>28828454
A chevy express 3500 averages 12 mpg. Its a truck with a van cab basically. You dont buy this unless you actually need something like this.

A minivan can average 23-26 MPG and still have 300 HP V6 and also way more comfortable.

unless you're one of those weird families with like 7 kids I dont see the point in something egregious like a Chevy Express.

>>28828454
1.) we will all make fun of you
2.) you will get pulled over by ICE and executed with "defensive shots" cause this is what they use to drive illegal spics around

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>>28828512
>>28828454

Nissan NV has a v8

>>28834166
Does the Nissan NV have an iron block LS-based V8?

>>28834064
12 MPG CITY (and I'm suspecting that's a previous gen with the 6 speed). A non-hybrid minivan is not getting over 20 in the city. An Express can easily tickle 20mpg on the highway.

>>28834671
moving goalposts much?

>>28834689
You're just mad because the Chevy's still better.

>>28834166
>all the unreliability and mechanical complexity of a Titan with none of the comfort or resale value
I have seen precisely one (1) of these in the wild, used as a mobile billboard for a local barbecue joint.

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>>28832005
I'd like to ride around in a modern conversion van someday to see what it's like compared to mine
And yeah not fitting into any carwashes ever is pretty lame

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get a "8" door explorer conversion

>>28835130
They're very common around here, but only the V8 versions. Truck based vans don't do too well with fewer cylinders, it seems.

>>28833808
That's not what cruise control does.