>>28829623
It's more fun, more engaging, simpler to service and own long term as well.

Stick to simracing if you want a video game experience with arcade paddles.

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Automatic transmissions are demonic.
All who use them are unknowingly participating in demonic ritual, and all who use them and know the truth about them (which now includes you) are doomed to the outer darkness.
It really is that simple.

In theory its more control.
In reality its tiring as fuck for a daily, especially.on a city.

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>>28829633
Take meds.

>>28829623
this thread again?
>>28829635
it really depends on the person, everyone that knew i manual swapped my car asked me about traffic jams. i just shrugged because they were a nothingburger

>>28829628
>>28829635
https://youtu.be/J77bzYpkO38?si=1Lp0wbdbAXygJy2B

you feel more in control over the vehicle compared to modern cars that do everything they can to make you feel like a useless sack behind the wheel

>>28829643
True, modern cars are very out of touch with realility. It'd a very Insulating and disconnected experience. A new porche is almost exactly the same as a new kia.

>>28829639
Im guessing you've never commuted in a major city where it takes 3 cycles to get through a single traffic light. Even more fun in a city thats not some valley floor or out on the prairie.
Take a manual to San Francisco and drive around at 5 o'clock.

>>28829648
>Take a manual to San Francisco and drive around at 5 o'clock.
I literally did this before
it was pretty fuckin brutal

>>28829648
>Im guessing you've never commuted in a major city where it takes 3 cycles to get through a single traffic light
i dailied it in sydney for two years. granted, i didn't have to really rev it even on hills. wasn't a diesel, it just had enough torque that I didn't have to stomp the gas too hard to get going.

>>28829643
>modern cars
automatics have been around for like 80 years
id rather have some 1960s shitbox with a 3 speed auto than some modern overhead cam fuel injected p.i.t.a. to work on nanny car with a manual

>>28829648
manual hell, the eternal hillstart traffic jam, reserved for those who can't control their roadrage. the only rest is found in parallel parking spaces that are flooded so you can't get out without getting your socks wet.

>>28829623
autos shift like ass, the gears feel mushy and the gear selection is equally trash, now you'll say
>but what about semi automatic, you get the best of both worlds
why in the fuck would I opt for a cucked attempt of having a manual gearbox, I select the gears how I want, use engine braking exactly like I want and I don't get irritated from the car doing whatever I don't want it to do, if I'm in traffic so be it, the amount of times this is a problem is maybe once in a while, city driving is fairly straightforward as well, the car is overall much simpler in its construction, less electronic bullshit to go bad

>>28829628
>simpler to service

Have you replaced your clutch cylinder yet? Your clutch pads? Your clutch yourself? Your shifting cable? Your working automatic transmission for the cheapest aftermarket manual kit?

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>>28829672
>modern overhead cam fuel injected p.i.t.a. to work on nanny car
DOHC and EFI are not really things worth complaining about. Some of the easiest engines to work on are that way and well-tuned EFI is more-reliable than carb since you can tune the whole rev / throttle range.

>>28829623
>more work = more fun?
Oh yeah anon, Im sure youre super swamped being a part time particle physicist while also running a really successful restaurant
>get off on manual
I think this is what psychologists refer to as projection
It's fun
>b-b-b-b-ut muh traffic jams!!
Skill issue
If you find yourself trapped in some car choked shithole like LA or Houston, spending 2 hrs every day in horrible traffic jams
Look at your choices

>>28829648
people always say this but I've dailied a 6spd around Atlanta for a very long time. yeah nobody moves when the lights change, takes several cycles. yeah there are hills everywhere, don't care. sitting in traffic sucks no matter what, doing it in an auto wouldn't be any better

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>>28829623
Why "play a video game" when you can "watch someone else play it?"

>>28829881
Because it might be a funny vtuber playing a videogame I don't care for that much

>buy a manual it's great
>test drive and buy a mazdaspeed6
>turns out to be garbage
>now i'm stuck with a garbage car and i have to constantly be engaged and i can't just dissociate from this awful experience

>>28829848
LA the city or LA the county? because the more rural areas aren't too bad.

>>28829623
Manuals are the poorfag choice. Automatics are better in every way but they are more expensive up front and in maintenance which leads to a lot of cope.
>>28829924
LA the state

>>28829926
They don't require maintenance though.

It's about being in control. You're not asking for the ECUs permission to change gears in a manual.

>>28829819
>Have you replaced your clutch cylinder yet? Your clutch pads? Your clutch yourself? Your shifting cable?
yes, I've also replaced synchros inside the manual transmission after cracking it open. You can actually fix manuals in your garage, good luck finding a professional mechanic that you give money to willing to do anything more than swap a refurb/junkyard automatic transmission in

>>28829819
Yes to all of that, far less headache than a slop-o-matic

>>28829623
I rarely use my brakes.
Last auto i had went through brake pads every 6 months.

I'd only ever change my manual for a pdk or sequential. Only times I've ever gone WOW

Not even a new M2 does it for me. But honestly if we aren't talking about a performance car then I don't give a shit what slush box automatic it has if anything a dsg in a non sports car is dumb.

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>>28829643
This

>>28829623
automatics were better when they were simple

>have 3 cars
>30-year-old 4 speed auto
car always just goes, sometimes hunts on certain inclines
>5-year-old 9 speed auto
hunts all the fucking time, sometimes when you floor it will hesitate for a second before sending power, not great for pulling out into traffic
>20-year-old 6 speed manual
always does exactly what i command, when i command it

>>28829920
>all manuals are shit because i decided to try a mazda

>>28829623
If you don't get it, don't worry about it.

>>28830131
>always does exactly what i command, when i command it
this is why i like it.

>>28829948
My auto doesn't have an ecu though, it's all hydraulic

>>28829623
>why do "car people" get off on manual transmissions ?

you have direct control of your transmission

of course a faggot wouldn't understand

itt we pretend flappy paddle race car drivers don't have control of their transmission

>>28829926
it's not 2006 anymore, manuals are the premium option now

>>28829819
>clutch master bolted to firewall with two 12mm nuts
>clutch slave bolted to exterior of bell housing with two 12mm bolts
>clutch pads
wut
>clutch
ya can do it in driveway
>shifter cable
rwd so shifter goes directly to gearbox

>>28829623
Poor people

>>28829623
It's not my job to explain things to people that don't understand them.

>>28829623
I work from home so I work less by not driving to work so when I do drive I drive for fun. Crazy right?

Never used a manual but it doesn't seem that inconvenient or anything. Push clutch, shift, release clutch, repeat. Once you get the hang of it it doesn't seem stressful at all

>>28829623
Would you have fun if the care braked, accelerated, and steered for you?

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>>28829623
Why do you care? You're on /o/ on 4chan we have austism go away normie I gotta exercise my coomer level swole leg some more in traffic faggot go away.

>>28829635
This is such a non issue its crazy.

>>28829926
Manuals come at a premium for any old car worth having. No one wants the auto "enthusiast" cars.

manuals suck, I like road head

>>28829623
Americans associate them with car enthusiasts. Only performance or 'fun' cars really had them in the states. In the rest of the world, nobody gives a shit. We used manuals because they were better at the time. That's it. Now automatics have gotten better and manuals are obsolete technology. Notice how the American does the opposite of what is logical:

>for decades, automatic transmissions are awful
So in America we drive automatics.
>now technology has improved, the manual isn't relevant anymore
Noooo!! You can't take my manual away! From my cold dead hands!

>>28829648
>commuted in a major city where it takes 3 cycles to get through a single traffic light
I would literally get out of my car, stand on the roof, and shoot myself in the middle of traffic if this ever happened to me, and I live innacity

>>28830116
If the person in that silver suv had let off the brakes, could they have regained control?
t. no snow where I am

>>28830318
One you're used to it, it takes about as much active thought process as using your turn signal, which probably explains why so many 70 IQ retards seethe at the very thought of it.

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>>28831047
now imagine it but on a 20 degree incline
FUCK this street in particular in san francisco
Trying to get on the oakland bay bridge and fuckin stop and go traffic on this street made me wish i got a FSD tesla

>>28829623
>i never knew that more work = more fun
That's because you're retarded

>>28829623
>i never knew that more work = more fun
You've obviously never had sex, then

>>28829648
I own multiple manuals but don't drive in heavy traffic all that often. But it's still just one pedal driving except with the clutch instead of the brake. Isn't really all that different.

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>>28830116
I wish there was a way to simulate this EXACTLY.
No fucking joke, I'd love to practice getting out of a situation like this several hours a day just for fun.

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>>28829819
>clutch pads

>>28831614
>I'd love to practice getting out of a situation like this several hours a day just for fun.
You're using it right now.

>>28830116
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1o3koTLWM

>>28831050
Probably not at that point.

>>28829623
Because you can feel the car under you. It becomes part of you. Automatic drivers will never know.

>>28829623
wrenchlet can't drive thread

>>28830116
Wheels locked up, not even trying to counter steer out of it. No winter tires either. NGMI and didn't. Also top heavy SUV, lol.

>>28831661
I hate trying to get my 4Runner (Auto only) up ramps. I've only ever driven manuals before and clutch control just cannot replace even the 'creep' you get with autos, as at a certain point they just stop and you have to work the throttle BUT NOT TOO MUCH, then ham on the brakes.

>>28831677
*Cannot be replaced

>>28829648
I dailyd a manual five years in NYC before I moved to Pennsylvania
It’s literally not an issue, you need the basic self control to resist the urge to crawl forward as soon as you have one tenth of one inch of extra space.

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>>28831614
AMP has a fuckhuge inclined skid pad. I think there's one in Europe as well.

>>28831692
Oh neat!

>>28829623
Learn to drive a manual and you MIGHT learn why. Ask your mom for permission to put her auto into """sport""" mode the next time she lets you drive it. You'll feel a difference. Manuals feel even better.

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>>28831687
Accurate. If you're lucky you can even just let it tickover in first at idle. It actual makes life easier for the autolets behind you, even though they seethe about LOOK AT THE GAP HE'S LEAVING

>>28829623
Manual
>put in gear you want, accelerate, no slop
Auto
>press pedal down, wait, engine revvs up, not gaining speed fast enough, transmission downshifts 1 gear, then 2 gear, now it finally starts accelerating, and it feels sloppy.

the choice is simple.

>>28829635
It's not tiring at all
>t. drive in one of the most congested cities in the world

>>28831733
Right. All the delivery vans here in Bongistan are manuals. I don't see their drivers in London with it medieval road layout and commie anti-vehicle traffic light phasing collapsing from exhaustion.

I like Americans but some of you do talk some shit.

>>28830116
Retard should have stayed in the car. If that vehicle hit him he would be fucked. If if just bumped into his car, no big deal.

>>28831702
You're poor and driving bad automatics. Europeans aren't sticking with manuals, they are moving to automatics.

>>28831753
the only automatics I regularly drive are late model premium rentals cars such as Escalades.
They all do this.

>>28831031
>automatics have gotten better and manuals are obsolete technology
Instead of having sex with a woman, why not rub one out in 20 seconds? Much more efficient. Shit, why live? Get me straight to the finish line.
Do you see what I'm getting at?
It's not obsolete if people like it enough to pay for them. Some humans "enjoy" things, crazy concept, I know.

>>28829635
>I am a weak pussy
FTFY

>>28831760
Cars are machines and useless parts on machines don't last. Manuals are going and they're not coming back. Engineers don't keep aspects of cars that make them objectively worse in every way, besides providing an autism stick to car nerds.

>>28831843
>Stacey's 8 year old DSG fails in her Kia valued at $5k.
>Replacement needed, $8k after labor.
>"Oooh! I can get a new car!"
>Totals it through insurance, car is scrapped at barely over 100k miles
Meanwhile I just pop in a new clutch for $800 and go on my way in my paid off car instead of perpetuating a cycle of indebtedness.
Oh yeah, and it's really fun.

>>28829623
why do 'car people' get off an automatic transmissions? mario kart is better than driving a real car

>>28829635
>In reality its tiring as fuck for a daily, especially.on a city.

in clogged peak traffic from europe to asia to africa, everyone drives manual. your grandma drove a manual.

consider all the third-worlders driving to and from a death-march shift of gruelling manual labour. do you think they've got enough time for a good night's sleep? if you can't drive manual in awful traffic then you just can't drive manual.

>>28829623
drive them for work their fun but suck in traffic

>>28831753
No one cares what Europeans are doing

>>28829623
Automatics were made for women. It’s time for your sex change, worthless loser.

>>28831614
BeamNG

>>28830200
They don't kek, wrenchlet. That's why your favorite racing nigger in f1 can even compete lol. You think he'd be too dog if he didn't have a white man race engineer, crew chief and transmission designer? Fuck no. It's also why no one watches f1 anymore fucking permission to pass wrenchlet faggot

>>28829635
Literally a skill issue

>>28829635
> put in 1st and crawl
> choice of left or right foot to stop.
it's not so bad.

I'm slowly getting used to manual driving and was able to handle one of my nightmare scenarios today with ease.

>pulled up in a line of cars at a Stop Sign
>It was an uphill slope
>Instead of panicking, I played the balancing act of keeping my foot on the gas, engine roaring, partially kept the clutch engaged to climb the slope slowly without creeping backwards.
>Got up to the top where it was my turn to wait at the stop sign and took off quickly before the car could roll back for longer than a moment.
I wasn't even tense, I just did it.

>>28831700
Lol the NPC pathfinding algorithm can't have a gap. They will literally go into a homicidal rage if there's a car length that can be filled. This is why NPCs really are no higher than animals, they fundamentally cannot comprehend the future.

>>28831522
>>28831760
I would do that.
Sex is for producing children, it should not be about a fulfillment of lust, because then it's fornication.
So it should be as efficient as possible. The lights should be off and the deed should be done in a few minutes maximum.

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>>28832126
Well, see. I make it into an event.
Do a bunch of adderall / speed. Foreplay for at least 30 minutes. Take water breaks. Gotta make it at least 2 hours.
What do you want in life? What do you go to work for? Why do you wake up every day? Furniture? Funko Pops? Burgers? For me, what keeps me from blowing my brains out, is drugs and consensual sex with women in their 30s.
We are not the same, and I will not play by your NPC rules.