>>28831431
Don't buy anything past 2016. Simple.

If you don't buy it. They won't sell it.
Problem solved.
Vote with your wallet.

>>28831440
Normies and fleet sales mean this strategy has no chance

>>28831431
If you want 4wd then get a pickup. Rangers, tacomas, s10s (that haven’t been raped by high schoolers) are good vehicles.

>>28831459
Yeah I know pickups can go mud ridin' and sometimes carry a manly load of 2x4s like in the commercial (eagle screeches, golden sunset over the mountains), but I want to have the capacity of comfortably carrying 4 people if necessary, and I don't foresee needing to carry around cargo like that. Plus the gas mileage probably sucks unless something has changed a lot.

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>>28831431
> If AWD/4WD is a non-negotiable, and I dislike SUVs, then what am I looking at besides Subarus?
It isn't, and jewbarus have terrible interiors and are simply too slow to daily (let alone be fun)
https://youtu.be/9d3MdqMFSmI?t=638
>tastelet fag lives where it snows
>owns a gay miata and gay wrx because tastelet
>wrx is TOO SLOW LOL
The recommendation?
>"E90 335i xdrive"
>"fuck yeah!"
>"'300ish horsepower'--more like 350"
>"rear biased gay-wheel drive system that allows you to be sideways at all times and helps you hold drifts"
>"and a manual"
>"I'm not one for turbo cars, but that N54 was fuckin' INSANE. That was a GREAT engine"
>"I wouldn't [recommend a wrx]; they're just too fuckin LAGGY"

>>28831468
Aren't those old german cars an electrical nightmare? And something about 'air ride' that goes bad and costs $12k to fix?

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>>28831470
>Aren't those old german cars an electrical nightmare?
Nope
>And something about 'air ride' that goes bad and costs $12k to fix?
What the FUCK is an air ride?

the lexus IS is often criticized for being "outdated". older toyota models will still have the NA engines as well.

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>>28831431
early to mid 2010s cars are basically modern cars without they goypad screens and spyware

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>>28831474
>the lexus IS is often criticized for being "outdated".

In other words, the technofetishists just can't even, so it's probably ideal for a normal human being.

>>28831477
yes, that is what I was getting at. It also comes in an AWD configuration. MPG will likely be sub-20 though, with premium fuel as well.

>>28831484
What's the AWD tech? Full time or just kicks in the rears when needed like a CRV/RAV?

>>28831488
my understanding is that it is a 70/30 rear bias, changes when the traction control detects problems.

>>28831495
Sounds good, might be worth the extra fuel really.

>>28831452
You are wrong retard.

Prime example: Dodges EV challenger not only became a total fail but it was such a failure in sales that it influenced GM to keep the camaro as a V8.

You're just a bitch ass sucka who will buy any slop bestowed in his troft that he can afford.

Do not buy anything past 2016. It's really that simple.

>>28831431
>What car advice would you give to someone whose knowledge of cars is frozen in 1999
Just get Tesla model 3

>>28831519
Peak retard post here omegakek. What are you doing on /o/ you electric loser

>>28831431
>knowledge of cars is frozen in 1999
Good. You don't want to learn more it's gotten so much worse. Just buy a 1999 car with low miles and enjoy it.

>>28831467
2011-2014 F150s can comfortably carry 4/5 adults with more leg, head, and elbow room than any sedan or crossover. They can be found with 4wd of course. They are rare, but can be found with the 6.2l which is probably Ford's most reliable engine since the 300 straight 6. The 6R80 is a solid auto, especially once the molded lead frame has been replaced with the newer revised part number. The lower trims in these model years included no satellite/wifi uplinks or telemetry gathering.

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>>28831528

>25 year coma
welcome back OP but for real what were you in for that's a hell of a sentence

>>28831529
This.

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>>28831553
I would prefer not to say the reason, but you might say I was quite the outlaw in my youth. I already got my mama a benz and my boo boo a jag, but for the 25 to life of me I cannot decide what kind of vehicle to purchase for myself.

>>28831583
kek

Personally I think pre-covid is fine

>>28831529
>Botnet car
3g is dead you can't collect data on them anyway. Love my Raptor. Worth it even with the 5.4l.

>>28831431
BUY AS MANY OF THEM AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN.
IT ONYL GETS WORSE.

Do people really buy cars online? What do you do with private sellers, meet up and hand over a bag of cash and hope you don't get murdered? I knew people who bought in cash in college but those were like $2000 shitboxes so it didn't matter much.

>>28831431
There's a handful of decent cars made after 2008 and most of them are international market cars like the Ford fusion, Buick regal, and dodge dart. Its debatable whether anyone has been assassinated by electric steering and brakes but the vulnerability is there and not being taken seriously even after a decade of documentation. If you don't mind looking poor there are still millions of w and h body gm cars. Every B/D body has been trashed and now crown vics are getting pricey, a sn95 gt is now the million mile croozer. All of the cheap na and nb miatas have been destroyed so C5 corvettes are looking good. Kia decided machining the crankshaft is for pussies resulting in premature bearing failure, everyone watching them simply get away with this also decided that's not a bad idea and followed suit, do NOT buy a new car. Most nucar issues are overblown but everyone is now cutting corners on machine work and eating shit for it

>>28831431
All you need to know is that EVs are the future. Minimal maintenance, cheap to run, refuel overnight at home, no noise or vibrations, and they can have up to one motor per wheel offering unmatchable AWD performance.

>>28832130
Buy from white boomers and carry a gun

>>28832351
The problem with EVs is that the true EVs are all botnetted to hell, expensive, and will probably brick on you if the manufacturer decides to spin down the servers controlling the DRM because LTS ended, or your social credit score drops below 800. I don't mind the concept of an EV, but the execution has been repulsive and I don't see it getting any better. Hybrids could be cool but anything pre-botnet is 2 wheel drive as far as I know.

>>28832621
>be brown
>travel across state lines with a gun and $15k in cash to meet up with some random person on the internet who may or may not be the person in the photos
Good idea, I can't think of any way that could possible end badly for me.

>>28831440
2013