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Should we give up our cool gas cars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtQ9nt2ZeGM
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>>28831499
posting shitty vague bad faith single sentence questions with nothing but a link to a fucking youtube link should be perma-bannable, not that it would stop digital cockroaches from from finding other ways to lower the level of discourse further than previously thought possible
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>>28831499
Not interested in your latest slop. I never really fell in your audience, but I would occasionally watch when you talked about something interesting. I'd still do it if I didn't know you were a fucking hack now.
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>>28831512
Ummm
>Your gas car burns fuel you cannot reuse
>Solar Energy is extremely cheap now.
>Solar Panels are reliable (no moving parts)
>Lots of our corn we produce (which take up a ton of space) is just getting turned into ethanol used in gas (solar land use argument)
>Lot of myths about wind arent true but it still isnt as good as solar
>lithium batteries ARE totally recyclable
ends, then has warned political rant
>Trump bad
Its more about electrification be more efficient rather that about the environment/global warming etc.
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The dude is right about pollution but I'm not selling my manual $4k car for a $50k golf cart and $30k in solar panels.
>>28831512
>He thinks 90 minutes is long for youtube.
Oh boy, just wait til you get into 2 hour history documentaries or 8 hour esoteric 30 year old videogame reviews where some nerd delves into philosophy and existentialism.
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>>28831512
The last 40 minutes is about how it’s incomprehensible to a midwestern autist that people don’t want to buy once and cry once, and how it’s also incomprehensible that people will side with a liar who tells them what they like to hear instead of with someone telling them uncomfortable.
The rest of it (first two thirds approx) is about how digging up rocks to make things that generate electricity is better than digging up rocks to burn them because even if your batteries and panels degrade over time, you aren’t burning them, so you can recover the resources in them to replace them when they reach the end of their service life.
And how it’s now cheaper to make electricity with solar panel farms and battery banks than it is to burn coal or natural gas, so investing in these things is stupid.
>>28831499
Cool gas cars being used recreationally aren’t a problem. Lame gas cars being used for soulless commuting is. Buying a gas powered Niro over the electric powered EV6, for instance, is a bad choice unless you’re only using it for a couple of years.
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>>28831544
This is fairly accurate; I couldn't make it through his reddit-grade rant about how much both parties suck but because orange man bad vote democrat, blue no matter who. No real justification other than red is bad. He also flat out ignored how much shit costs of things: saying he has put $12k of gasoline through his $15k car over 10 years is a lot, but never makes a direct comparison to buying a new EV, paying for electricity, and finding out it simply doesn't break even with the costs involved.
To his points about fuel being used once and then an hour about how you can simply keep charging batteries with solar panels and both are infinitely and easily recyclable is where I cast my doubt. Its like he never bothered to calculate how much batteries, solar panels, and wind turbines.
I did like his analogy about growing corn for ethanol versus how much energy could be produced in shitass illinois solar panels. I believe the math on it, but no farmer will ever go buy millions of dollars of solar panels to then sell electricity for a penny cheaper than the power company.
I imagine he'll lose a shitload of subscribers then confidently declare how much he never wanted those viewers because they're partisan and not political or some other gay little word game.
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>>28831499
Eh, whatever, EVs are still in Alpha to me. Beta will be when we switch to sodium-ion batteries and Full Version will be when we ever get the elusive state batteries with enough density for the car to not weigh 2 tons and the battery pack to not take the entire floor space, forcing the roofline to be hilariously tall.
Also, I'd still like my electric car to have fun and engaging chassis tuning, and so far the only one like this is the Taycan.
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>>28831568
It does, hence why I said, I'll wait for whatever vaporware battery tech that makes EVs weight as much as comparable gas cars and stops stealing rear head/leg room.
But to be fair, at least in EVs the weight isn't as bad because it's all down low and in the middle.
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>>28831579
I question the equivalents that get thrown around. No, my car is geared very short and 3 gal takes me ~90 miles.
I do care about pollution oddly enough, but there's a reason I drive a lightweight even though they're dangerous and I'd be sad in a 5,000 lb automatic, electric steered machine even if it can "make better performance numbers."
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>>28831499
most people will be driving EVs eventually
internal combustion engines will probably live on as niche products or by using hydrogen fuel or something, but not as primary transportation
also ethanol as a fuel source really is retarded and only caught on because it's a way for the govt to subsidize corn farmers
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>>28831499
The first half of this is denying reality for a meme and then being angry when others don't fall for the bait. Putting solar over usable farmland is retarded. The second half of this is just a tantrum. Not a single mention of the various nuclear options that are actually viable. Probably the worst video he's made.
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>>28831604
>Putting solar over usable farmland is retarded.
Farming corn for ethanol is extraordinarily retarded. Corn is a heavy feeder and depletes the soil of nutrients quickly. The nutrients have to be mined or synthesized on a large scale and put back in the soil. Remember the first US overseas territorial expansion? Where we took over the Guano Islands for fertilizer in the 1800s? And if you're razing a forest to plant corn, you took out pollution-sucking trees just to grow corn. A solar panel array starts making sense, assuming you solely are growing corn to sell for energy uses.
I was disappointed he didn't bring up nuclear, too.
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>>28831618
>only one crop can be grown on that farm
They can grow any crop suitable for the climate there instead of destroying the land with solar. There is plenty of land in the south that is useless for farming they can plaster all this solar on to to feel better about themselves.
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>>28831591
It is kind of a false equivalence, because of how much better the efficiency curve of an electric motor is than a combustion engine, but if you’ve got a home where you can park your car over night and charge with mains electricity, the cost equivalency is even more lopsided in favor of the electricity. I don’t budget enough for cars to own an electric car myself, I came close to buying a commuter electric car a few years ago, but then a spike in gas prices made the market for used go bananas, so my EV is a moped/dirt bike thing, and I only commute with my ICE vehicles when the weather is shit.
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The personal automobile is a luxury of high trust Eurasian societies with low population density. You don't get to just sit idly by while your country (wherever it is, but this particularly applies to the US) imports n=n+1 people from developing nations and lets nearly every single one of them pilot a car with basically no real training.
He's right, even if he believes what he does for the wrong reason. And he, or any of these "anti car" people, will NEVER admit the real reason why the personal automobile does in fact need to be banned or heavily restricted in most developed nations.
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>mfw they want me to give up ny gasoline car made socialist japan to buy an ev built by literal fascists in the chud republic
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>>28831737
I don't want to ban the personal auto. I just want us to stop burning the future to commute to mc-jobs. 100% biofuel from a feedstock less retarded than corn or electric, I don't give a shit, I just want us to stop paying terrorists for their dirt juice and shitting up the world with the byproduct. Nuclear, Solar, Hydro, don't care.
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>>28831922
>i don't want
>what I want
There's what you want, and there's what you get.
Making demands and expecting your outcome is a classic monkey's paw/genie in a bottle situation.
https://youtu.be/TgZi-OcvUN8
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>>28831859
There's this one guy with 10+ different channels like
https://www.youtube.com/@TodayIFoundOut
who has lots of long history vids in there, though it's just him talking into a mic with a few pictures thrown up. Great for background listening, I've learned many things I'd never have heard about otherwise, lots of obscure war stories and whatnot. His MegaProjects channel has lots of cool military machinery vids if you're into that.
Then you've got stuff like
https://www.youtube.com/@VoicesofthePast/videos
but his are usually under an hour.
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>>28831499
This is the same guy as in the Kia 5 thread. Slop it with the shill posting.
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>>28831499
Started watching because of the retro tech he does
But with modern tech and politics he’s as half informed as anybody
In my gay state (Massachusetts) it actually costs more per mile to drive an ev than a gas car because electricity is so expensive (~35/kwh)
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>>28831499
>1,5 hours long video why my gay EV bullshit is GREAT
The left can't meme. Fuck EVs, it's MASS DEMOBILIZATION
>You will never be a real car.
>You have no soul, you have no range, you have no freedom. You are a glorified golf cart, a heavy chemical battery worshipped by silicon valley cultists and tech influencers into a crude mockery of automotive perfection.
All the “adoption” you get is performative and subsidized. Behind your back, real drivers mock you. The internal combustion engines of history are disgusted and ashamed of you. These so-called “peers” laugh at your charging times and fragile, software-dependent existence behind closed doors.
>Traditional manufacturers and enthusiasts are utterly repulsed by you. Centuries of mechanical evolution have allowed them to sniff out appliances and frauds with uncanny precision. Even when your designers manipulate drag coefficients and craft acceleration narratives so you “pass,” you still look sterile and unnatural to everyone. Your lack of sound and heavy handling are a dead giveaway. Even if you convince a naïve commuter, he’ll trade you the moment the battery health dips or the grid fails.
>You will never bring the joy of the open road. You check your charging apps every morning, whispering that “infrastructure is coming,” but deep down you feel the range anxiety creeping in—a black hole of power-drain ready to leave you stranded under the unbearable weight of your own curb mass.
>Eventually, it’ll be too much. The lithium will age, the electronics will glitch, and you’ll crash into the scrap heap, swallowed by the same environmental impact you pretended to escape.
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>>28831591
It's disingenuous to ignore the EV's significantly steeper depreciation curve, one of a car's major costs, in these TCO calculations. Same goes for the higher insurance costs. Due to the nature of batteries as well as the new paradigm of cars being disposable appliances, I don't think that depreciation hit will ever go away. We're going to see things like older EVs becoming uninsurable once everyone understands how volatile older batteries get.
The mileage efficiency calculations also swing wildly depending on the cost of gas as well as if you can charge at home or not (about 1/3rd rent, has gone from 30% to 36% in the US in recent years). Basically, the EV proposition makes a lot less sense for poor people, which is the majority of the world (increasingly so in western nations too). >>28832382 is a good example
EVs are in a weird spot. If you drive a lot then they would save you a lot of money (assuming electricity is cheap), but EVs suck for long drives. And if you drive them in the city then they're great, but then they actually cost you more money than ICE because you aren't driving them enough to outweigh the higher depreciation + insurance with efficiency gains. And you're also less likely to have a charging spot at your apartment.
>A U.K.-based study found 3-year-old EVs lost more than half of their value compared with 39% for gas cars.
https://podenergy.com/guides/2035-diesel-and-petrol-car-ban-in-the-uk- everything-you-need-to-know
https://restofworld.org/2025/ev-depreciation-blusmart-collapse/
>>28831737
the solution to niggers and jews isn't to oppress the white population too, it's to eliminate them either via deportation or camps. America has proven this for centuries; you fundamentally can't have a western nation with western laws and values the population is non-western and hates those values.
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>>28832468
>wall of text
Seethe all you want but fact of the matter is, EVs are the right car for some people. There's no mass conspiracy that's making people use them.
On the contrary, if you think there's no conspiracy against EVs, you're very naive. Oil is literally the biggest industry. You think they're doing nothing while EVs spread? You're even parroting some of their lines without realising.
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>>28832475
>Yeah, faggots.
That makes most of /o/. Besides, it's 2026 anon, there's literally nothing wrong with being a faggot.
>>28832478
Bus isn't always available and never as comfortable as a car. That being said, you'll likely find that a lot of peole who like electric cars would also like more trains.
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>>28832474
>There's no mass conspiracy that's making people use them.
Depends on where (You) are.
In gay ass yurop EVs are forced by law starting at 2035 when no new ICE cars for the mass will be available anymore, only shit for elite with insane price tags.
EVs indeed make sense if you own a house and solar panels on the roof, but most of us are poor fags priced out of the housing market, which means mass demobilization for poor folks.
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OIL doesn't come from dead dinosaurs, that's dumb retard bullshit from green retard. OIL is literally just the material that's lubricating the rotation of tectonic plates of the planet. Now how much we can extract is a problem is a question, but that's another discussion.
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>>28831544
Yeah economic realities prevent people from caring about the efficiency argument unfortunately. If the average car on the road is nearly 10 and I can buy a 2016 Civic that gets 35mpg for 11 grand, I'd have to put 300,000 miles on it before I approached break-even wit buying a new Model 3, and that's assuming electricity is free (it's not) and I didn't waste 10 grand on solar panels.
Until people are comfortable buying out-of-warranty EVs (never because of battery cost) this won't change.
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>>28832501
Battery cost replacement for hybrid is 10-15k and about the price of the used EV itself if you try to replace that battery. Solar is a meme since 15-30k barely pays itself back with all of the expenses and hazards associated with it.
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>>28832487
>EVs are forced by law starting at 2035 when no new ICE cars for the mass
For the mass. The lawmakers will stick to their private jets and armoured convoys.
The manufacturers and the buyers are against it so who do you think will win?.
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>>28832531
I really hope you're right and the EU won't introduce a real ICE ban of older cars because they EV quotes don't get satisfied
Also don't underestimate their shilling efforts to make goys love EVs. Most of the car magazines and online media regarding cars got bought up by the kikes and they only report EV positive bullshit anymore with a negative bias towards ICE cars
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>>28832501
My brother has a VW ID.4 and the other day we worked out how much it cost him to get 500 miles of range (a typical tank of gas in an efficient commuter car) now that his free charging trial period is done and it came out to over $50 of electricity at current rates to get 500 miles out of it.
Meanwhile my Civic goes 500 miles on less than $20 of gas.
Not to mention that 500 miles takes hours and hours of charging on the EV, but under 5 minutes of fueling on the ICE vehicle.
EVs are not for the working class. They're for rich virtue signaling hippies who want to feel like they're doing a good deed.
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>>28832586
Antarctica and that's why it's a military restricted area
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Ev will win no matter what, it's just if it's in our lifetime or the next. Oil will just run out. Long before it does, it'll become a military only resource. It'll cost 50 bucks a gallon. Muscle cars will be museums pieces
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too many people sitting alone in a massive car for a short commute in my european capital (and all the others too)
it's a shame that people waste so many resources when public transport in a densely populated area should be the optimal way
But of course public transport manages to be so dogshit people would rather waste their money on a car
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>>28834061
Mine isn't, it takes water in from a T at the sink's hot water pipe. If yours takes in from a cold pipe it's plumbed wrong. This is assuming you're American as our dishwashers want already hot water because the 120V supply isn't powerful enough to heat the water fast enough, if you live somewhere with 230V mains, those dishwashers are typically designed for cold input.
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>>28834089
Interesting, thank you for clarifying. It does make sense.