Thread #28831873 | Image & Video Expansion | Click to Play
HomeIndexCatalogAll ThreadsNew ThreadReply
H
File: kiavan.jpg (596.4 KB)
596.4 KB
596.4 KB JPG
if only the abandoned the retarded EV only concept and put a v8 in it, they could easily end the dominance of the shitty chevy express van from 25 years ago in the passenger van market
also need to make it a bit longer too

but um hey, at least someone is trying to make new vans

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a70235391/kia-pv5-ev-van-us-spied/

tl;dr
kia is making a new electric van, which will be sold in cargo from in canada this year, and the exterior lighting adheres to us regulations, so many it is coming to the us, but that hasn't been announced yet
+Showing all 35 replies.
>>
>>28831873
>put a v8 in it
Doesn't look like it has space for it
>>
i think a van is one of the best uses for electrification, especially if it is going to be a local delivery/pickup route.
>>
EV could be based as fuck if they didn't overcomplicate shit for the sake of planned obsolescence.
Just imagine an incredibly simple drive train of
>2 e-motors
>one half trunk sized battery block (that you can swap out)
>relative simple management box

No fluff, just the bare minimum.
Technically you could get something so simple it would make the average 4pot ICE look like rocket science.
I'd love ecars for carelessly dicking around and taking the car even if it's just 1 mile trip for fun. Using an ICE car for short trips is absolute fucking punishment for the car, especially when done regularly since it does never reach operating temperature so the wear is insane. E bitches on the other hand literally don't care. You could jump in, drive a dick length, get out and do that 1000x a day, it wouldn't care.
>>
>>28831900
bring back the w8

>>28831903
what no its retarded a lot of people buy vans to go places and having to stop for an hour to charge is silly
there's way more uses of vans than just local deliveries
>>
>>28831873
I'd settle for a 4 banger as range extender. Which would be more than enough for it. Since it looks like it's the same size as one of these
>>
>>28831873
>v8
200 hp 2.5 liter 4 banger with a 50-100hp electric motor. Make it a hybrid.
>>
>>28831942
wrong
putting a huge battery in a van massively compromises interior space

>>28831951
that's not gonna work if you have 12 people in the van and there's a hill
>>
>>28831962
Yes it will
>>
>>28831933
doing battery swaps at charging stations over waiting to charge would be great
>>
>>28831962
Even if it's in the chassis? Like the typical skateboard layout used on every other ev on the market?

...also the're making pickup and chassis cab versions
>>
>>28831900
It does stop being a pussy.
>>
>>28831992
I like pussies though, they're fun to lick.
>>
>>28831989
batteries weigh over a thousand pounds and yes I think even for a chassis it would still raise the floor height but im especially talking about passenger vans

evs are retarded its adding over 1000 pounds of weight to a car and a huge charging impediment (cannot charge in rural areas, takes much longer to charge, if the charger is in use, the other person is taking 30 minutes vs 5 minutes max at a gas station)
and if there's hills, cold weather, or lots of cargo or passengers, you won't go very far
gas engines make much more sense until batteries are far less heavy and far more charge dense
>>
>>28831933
>one half trunk sized battery block
>50mi range
>>
>>28831933
no you want a ladder chassis with a battery pack down the middle of it.
>>
>>28831873
>fake windows
I want off this planet
>>
>>28831900
Maybe the Staria's four banger diesel?
>>
>>28832222
>nooo you can't make a light duty vehicle i NEED to haul 7000 pounds of black cock for my wife!!!
>>
>>28832473
Most vans and minivans have those...
>>
>>28831900
If it can fit in the transit supervan, it can fit in this.
>>
Why do you care about such inane bullshit.
marvel vs dc tier reddit ahh thread.
>>
>>28831900
>Doesn't look like it has space for it
Knowing how Koreans would pull it off, it'd be a turbo I-4 with the transaxle for their large car platform. That does mean FWD or AWD.

>>28832077
>evs are retarded its adding over 1000 pounds of weight to a car and a huge charging impediment (cannot charge in rural areas, takes much longer to charge, if the charger is in use, the other person is taking 30 minutes vs 5 minutes max at a gas station)
This looks like it'd work extremely well in Korea. If it coincidentally works elsewhere around the world, that's more profit in the bag. Probably not the best for long-distances.
>>
>>28831900
V8 swapped Multipla
>>
>>28832596
>ahh
teenage mulattoe hands typed this post
>>
>>28832597
so if it WAS released in a passenger van format for 12/15 passengers with a hybrid v8 setup, you would consider buying it?
>>
>>28832630
I'm sure you could mid mount a flat eight in some of that space wasted by battery and have, say, a combined 1000hp or so hybrid mom mobile.
I'd give one a look.
>>
>>28832635
bring back the w8
you don't need a big battery just 2-3 kwh
there's diminishing returns to a huge battery just enough for low end torque and coasting
>>
>>28832638
Don't forget you can be fully electric for that trip into a city centre that charges you for using hydrocarbons too.
>>
>>28831873
It would make sense in North America if it were a hybrid or PHEV with a range extender. As a pure electric vehicle, it's just anxiety-inducing.
>>
>>28832642
you know that mining lithium and making batteries creates pollution?
>>
>>28831873
Big bore diesel would do (hyundai truck engine).
>>
>>28831942
CHEVY
>CHEVY
ASTRO
>ASTRO
>>
>>28831933
The only way they would make money in this market is by selling service plans. The entire concept of the EV platform was sold on the idea of cars with DRM and expiration dates so no one could work on them.
They tried the same shit with ICE vehicles but you can bypass it all with an arduino and a paperclip, you can't do the same with EV motors.
>>
>>28832158
>one half trunk sized battery block
>50mi range
If you could hot-swap batteries everyone would take this. Are you nuts? 50 mile range with the ability to spend ~5 minutes getting a new battery would be revolutionary.

That's why we don't get it, and why they rather do the supercharger scam. The ability to grenade your whole vehicle because a battery pack goes out is a feature, not a bug
>>
>>28833470
gas cars already take 5 minutes to refuel and no one would buy one that only got 50mi to a tank

Reply to Thread #28831873


Supported: JPG, PNG, GIF, WebP, WebM, MP4, MP3 (max 4MB)