Super market.

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Why are robins so bold? On my recent trips they stand in front of you and climb on my gear. In the woods and near civilisation. They're cute. Wish it would let me hold it.

What are you doing over autumn and winter lads? I might start learning to climb indoors, then just exercise and cardio training for spring and summer. The telescope will be out soon too I suspect. Cozy winter hobbies makes it less depressing.

>>2840644
They are quite territorial believe it or not. I was digging up dirt in the garden once robins would sweep down and steal the worms

>>2840688
They really stand their ground. I would walk toward them and they wouldn't budge until the last moment. Probably happened a good 10 times. There were cats around in the bunkhouse I visited so I was confused as to why they were so bold. They're quite comical and fun.

>>2840647
I'm going out. Autumn and winter are the best for it as they filter out townies. Nothing better than freezing my tits off eating sad tuna pasta while some named storm beats the shit out of my tent, knowing I'm doing it again tomorrow. Misery aside, camping and hiking in the dead of winter with a supply of hot drinks is bliss. I keep an eye on the solar weather to be out in the aurora when we get it. The main difference between summer and winter is that I stop climbing outdoors when it gets too cold.

>>2840647
Comfy camping in the highlands on days off.
Saving up for next summer/autumn so not doing anything big or expensive.
I wanted to join a climbing gym but it’s too far out of the way and is going to burn a hole in my pocket

How do you guys dry your boots overnight? all I can come up with is- putting warm rocks in them and hanging them above the fire, any other ways?

>>2840896
>>2840858
Late September is pretty kino and quiet. Everyone back at work, weather a bit shitter so I also hope for some nice quiet thru hikes. It's not that bad this year just windy and a little wet.

>>2841052
Maybe wrap the rocks in paper so the evaporated water absorbs into the paper unless there's enough airflow. To be honest I just roll with it and hope my feet can manage but I take them off regularly whenever I stop.

>>2841052
Stuffed with scrunched up newspaper works for me, but goretex linings take much longer

>>2841080
Thru hikes in late autumn early spring can be fucking dastardly with the sudden weather changes.
Remember getting frost all over my sleeping bag early mornings and having my phone battery get sapped.
Started off the first two days so hot as well. But that’s Scotland any season honestly.

hello lads, I usually just go on short hikes and day trips but recently i've had the idea to camp overnight
how much would i realistically need to spend on a camping setup considering i own nothing for the purpose? i was thinking about hammock camping what do you think lads?

>>2841264
Burger here, but you don't have to spend much at all. Solo tents that will last a few trips are 20-30 and you can buy equally cheap bags, and sleeping equipment which will more than get you through. Esbit stoves and tabs are also dirt cheap and compact for heating water/food.
I spent under 100 usd for the essential gear i needed
You can always err on the side of too little gear if you'll only be out for 1-2 nights. Worst case scenario is you're a bit uncomfortable or have to go home a night early.

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>>2840578
OI! You got eh loicense for that?

>>2840896
Enjoy being raped by midges

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How do i move to the lake district

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love my 3 pm walks

>>2841416
Why are you freaks even on this board
kys

Are you autists still sitting around in your discord server

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let's fucking GO

>>2842279
get it scranned

>>2842194
kek is the scottish stoner still about? Ever make it to africa

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>>2840644
Fuckin love robins me.
Cheeky bastards are so friendly, they always turn up when I'm gardening. I find worms for them and feed them, so they know I'm a friend. They'll come right up to me and hop around 1 inch away.

Although the first time I fed a robin I was slightly disgusted, they are just tiny dinosaurs and will tear apart and eat the worm alive. I dunno what I expected, in my head I kinda thought it would swallow it whole or something but they make a right mess of it.

I never go outside

>>2842563
yes, his vlogs are all up on YT
He was on Fishtank and hiked through Cali recently.

tourist here, is foraging popular on /out/? are there ever any generals?

Bought garmin epix pro gen 2 with sapphire screen. Has gimmicks like a torch and a red light screen. 469.99 instead of 829.99. Pretty good purchase imo.

>>2842943
They're based. A lot of personality in a small handsome package. I don't have many around me, just crows and magpies who steal my cats food. They sit on the trees at 5pm watching me feed the cats.

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Not exactly Brit, but close enough.
Dinner is secured tonight.

Anyone walked the Ridgeway? Looking to do it next year in Septemberish as a charity thing for a friend that died due to cancer last year.


>>2843637
Not usually as this board has autists from around the world and foraging is very specific to your area.

>>2843754
Do you get much use out of it? I wear a Tissot Heritage 1938 daily and swap to an ancient Timex expedition with a broken indiglo when /out/

what can I plant in my garden this time of year

>>2847356
Garlic

>>2841415
Dunno why you'd want to, it's insanely busy and overrated

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Winter is approaching fast lads, any upcoming plans for the season?

>>2851223
depression

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>>2851228
come to scotland or wales, winter is my favourite time of the year now

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>>2840647
Same as last year... the winter gullies beckon.

I have been climbing a bit over the summer so I am hoping to push to a winter II/III this year with my newfound rope skills.

>>2841264
I would honestly avoid hammock camping this side of the year unless you're also willing to invest in a decent underquilt. The problem with a hammock is that even in a sleeping bag, the insulation is crushed underneath you, so you loose a lot of heat out the bottom.

Start small, say a one night camp whereby if it really does go to shit you have the option to just pack up and go home, and work your way up from there once you get more familiar with your camping gear and sleeping outside.

In terms of gear, a foam rollmat is not the comfiest thing in the world, but they are cheap and most importantly decently warm. I always take one with me when I camp and use it as an underlay for my inflatable mat or a seat if I am hiking and the ground is wet/frozen. This setup, albeit with a decent sleeping bag, has seen me through all seasons in the UK.

Decathlon is probably alright for a cheap tent. Cannot speak to good cheap tents as I always used a tarp and bivvy as my budget camp setup. If you are willing to spend a little more, you can get a Naturehike, OEX, Vango or similar of a very respectable quality for around £100. This is a tent that will last you a long time, without breaking the bank like some of the more premium brands.

Just buy any sleeping bag with a suitable temperature rating, probably a 3-season or 4-season that will take you down to -5 degrees. Cheap sleeping bags generally will keep you warm, however they will be bulky and weigh substantially more than an expensive down bag. Packability and weight are the sacrifices you make when getting started out with entry level gear.

I think a good first step might be getting down to a proper camping / outdoors store near you (Go Outdoors, Cotswolds, independent ones etc.) and having a bit of a chat with the staff to see what they have available; if you really baulk at the price at least you will have a few products recommended that you can shop around online or find alternatives for.

>>2845816
I have walked parts of the ridgeway as a bit of an excursion I did with some friends around the Chilterns a few years back. Altogether very pleasant, easygoing walking.

We wild camped in the area, however as with all of South England it is very typical dense, rural countryside. You'll probably get away with it but there is always the chance some busybody comes and causes a fuss about you camping.

We did almost accidentally camp in the Chequers estate, which may have perhaps landed us in some bother, but luckily someone we were speaking to at the pub pointed this out to us and informed us of some better locations to pitch up.

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>>2851469
Went wildcamping for the first time in August lads. Went to Dartmoor, still can't stop thinking about it everything was perfect

>>2841415
going to have to win the lottery, even after buying the house it costs lodsofemone to live there

I wish I had an exotic British boyfriend to show the wilds of Appalachia...

>>2851231
It has its merits...
One of life's great pleasures is the smell of chimney smoke in cold twilight

Need to up my glove game this winter lads, hands are fucking freezing out there.

Was thinking waterproof sealskinz/mitten combo

>>2851535
Yes, that coal smell in the cold air is wonderful.

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>>2851223
doing a grade III with you

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>>2851560
I had sealskinz gloves years ago and they weren't great since they eventually leaked and don't have that much insulation. Their socks are much better presumably since it's less intricate to make

>>2851649
Grade IV.

>>2851560
Mountain Equipment Couloir

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Good evening lads. I am going stove camping on my todd tomorrow, going to try this patch not far off a little town I know. Pic related. There's 4 options as you can see, no pine trees unfortunately but a nice thick copse of poplars by the looks of things, might make an interesting spot. I'll take some pictures and post them here if I remember.

This is how I try to camp, finding little patches where nobody will bother me not far from the town. But I need your advice, where is a nice isolated place to go within yorkshire? I want to go to kielder solo but I need more experience first.

>>2852075
nigga

>>2852146
How did it go?

>>2840647
Camping in the North Pennines as often as possible. See hardly anyone in summer, in winter its empty. Bring on the storms and snow. Cross country skiing when it snows.
>>2852146
Yorkshire is massive, any particular area? Moors? Dales? all the flat lands in East Yorkshire? The weather can turn quick in the moors and dales so unless you have a bit of experience fell walking in bad weather best get that before you decide to go out overnight. I wouldnt say Kielder needed more experience than those two, just being used being in and navigating in pine plantations - pick a place you are going to go to, plan out your route on the map and stick to it.
Donna Van Senior on YouTube has a few videos camping up there and staying in the bothies there.

Mild as shit right now from these storms.
I'm hoping the polar vortex collapses and we get some snow and cold weather.

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>>2853146
Probably the worst type of weather this past week or two - wet and windy. Basically nothing can be done outside without it being miserable

>>2851512
Nice try Skinwalker.

Did Scotland have trees before human settlement?
Everything is so bleak with no vegetation. I wonder if it was different at all before people.

https://youtu.be/DUPmxW_GkFs

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brit/cave/ excursion to an old bathstone mine.

>>2840644
Robins appear when loved ones are near :)

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>>2854468
Depends when you mean. More than 10,000 years ago Scotland was covered in ice cap and glaciers and didn't have any trees.

Since then forests did recolonise Britain, and a lot of Scotland would have had Scots pine and birch, except for the tops of mountains. Likewise a lot of England would have been woodland except for some of the poor boggy soils on top of moors which would have just been heather etc in those shallow acidic wet soils.

Humans cut down most of the trees in Scotland and Britain in neolithic times, around the time they were building Stonehenge, so by the time the Romans turned up it was actually not very forested at all.

We've always had fewer trees for basically all of our written history. In 1066 they catalogued about 15% of land as being woodland, which is below the modern amount for France (32%), Germany (38%) or basically any other European country besides Ireland.

There are actually more trees and forests in the UK today than there were 100 years ago because of extensive reforestation plans which are continuing. Where I live they're constantly planting new trees in upland areas (picrel). We almost have as many trees as we did 1000 years ago, it's increased a lot, from 5% in 1840 to 8% in 2000 to over 14% today. It has increased the most in the last 20 years.

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>>2854468
Also, I don't think it looks bleak. Or it's bleak in a good way. I prefer the treeless look, so you can properly see the terrain and the shapes of mountains. It looks better.

I've done hiking in Europe and elsewhere that's forested and it's boring. You can't see anything because you are in a forest, and then when you get above the treeline all you see is forest. I want to see the jagged rocks and rugged landscape.

Woods are nice in lowland areas, but for mountains it's way better without trees. And conifers are the most boring tree of all, just the same tree as far as the eye can see, concealing the landscape.

>>2855182
>>2855184
Read accounts from visitors to England in the Middle Ages and Early Modern Period, and you'll see how they heap praise on it for being a land wholly tamed by man. The rolling green fields, hedgerows, pasture and row-upon-row of fruits and vegetables were an admiration, likewise the wall-less cities and the fact that a common man could up and go to London or Bristol or Norwich on a whim, safe in the knowledge that his home was secure. This kind of thinking was what spread to America through the Pilgrims and Puritans, and why they wanted to turn their newfound Eden into a land of human industry.

>>2855382
>The soil is fruitful, and abounds with cattle, which inclines the inhabitants rather to feeding than ploughing, so that near a third part of the land is left uncultivated for grazing. The climate is most temperate at all times, and the air never heavy, consequently maladies are scarcer, and less physic is used there than anywhere else. There are but few rivers; though the soil is productive, it bears no wine; but that want is supplied from abroad by the best kinds, as of Orleans, Gascon, Rhenish, and Spanish. The general drink is beer, which is prepared from barley, and is excellently well tasted, but strong, and what soon fuddles. There are many hills without one tree, or any spring, which produce a very short and tender grass, and supply plenty of food to sheep; upon these wander numerous flocks, extremely white, and whether from the temperature of the air, or goodness of the earth, bearing softer and finer fleeces than those of any other country: this is the true Golden Fleece, in which consist the chief riches of the inhabitants, great sums of money being brought into the island by merchants, chiefly for that article of trade. The dogs here are particularly good. It has mines of gold, silver, and tin (of which all manner of table utensils are made, in brightness equal to silver, and used all over Europe), of lead, and of iron, but not much of the latter. The horses are small but swift. Glasshouses are in plenty here.

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Recovering from an injury so did a 15km hike in the local countryside. Was meant to be a circular route but I cut it short as the only route was through a narrow field with the largest bull I've seen in my life in. Managed to get a bus home. I think I'll try the full circular once the weather improves. The clay soil in the Chilterns sticks to your boots the moment it gets wet.

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>>2852146
where in yorkshire? I'm in calderdale and am looking to do some wildcamping, last year i did a lot of motorcycle camping but that was all up in the lake district, hoping to find some local spots that i can hike to from hebden bridge, maybe 15-20km each way or so. pic rel, camp from august

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>>2852146
I'm planning a solo trip to Kielder soon too, as >>2852622 said it's mostly nav that's the challenge. I've camped at the site there previously and walked the eastern route alongside the reservoir, my plan for the next trip is to get dropped off at the village, stay a night in the forest and then make my way down to Hexham.

Do post if you end up doing it, I've got some new winter gear to test out so I'm gonna do a smaller trip first before I strand myself in the forest.

Pic is from a day hike by Alston on the 20th Dec.

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Does anyone surf in this country? I think we're actually pretty lucky in terms of quality spots so close

Hi, I'm from /brit/ I like coarse fishing and fossil hunting

>>2856054
don't really like that you live in the same town as me

hi i'm from /brit/ and i like wanking

https://discord.gg/GrsMchRgMw
come meet up next week bros

>>2855801
Nice lad, I've just moved near there