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Sup /out/, went camping (at a wilderness campsite) recently to try out some winter gear. Sleeping bag, sleeping pad, and the rewaterproofing on my tent held up really well.

One issue I had, was that while there were plenty of big logs available, there was no tinder or kindling and I had to use my swiss army knife to baton massive pieces of firewood to start a fire. This was fucking atrocious work and I realise I need a good fixed blade knife. Now I've got it in my head to get a big knife or a hatchet, picrel is available in a very decent 6 inch blade and this beauty of a 10 inch blade. As much as I know 6 inch is probably fine, my gorilla brain is telling me to get this big fucking thing, then I don't even need a hatchet and can carry the SKA for small tasks/multitool.

Convince me otherwise before I drop serious money on this thing.
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>>2850852
just make sure it's full tang and there are plenty of youtube videos of people bashing it through logs without problems
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>>2850852
>still trying to force the badonny chop chop meme
Just bring a hatchet or a folding saw you fuggin' LARPer.
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>>2850857
>>2850856
Fellas, the entire point is that I think it's a good purchase for the weight and task. It's just massive and I've only carried Swiss Army Knives before.
I just wanna know if it's overkill, in my mind I reckon it can do the task of a hatchet but is that wishful thinking.

Also I'm not sawing logs in half, gtfo.
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>>2850852
Just get an xtact kukri
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>>2850858
It's going to look like you're wearing a sword, as long as you're ok with that. I have a Mora Garberg (the only mora recommended for batoning) for wilderness survival. But with that thing, you could fight off attacking bears and mountain lions like Rambo. Hatchets, axes and saws are really the way to go for processing wood, but if you want a big knife and it's legal to carry, who cares?
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>>2850852
Sure. They're dangerous.
Case closed.
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>>2850852
if you're in northern hemisphere temperate woods get a compact hunter's axe instead

people and their dumb knives I swear to good, against proper pine wood they're crap for doing anything of substance
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>>2850852
Its not TSA approved
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>>2850852
They are not necessary, but fun to have. Go ahead and get one.
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>>2850852
WTF you gonna use that for?
Just a Gerber or Spyderco you can keep in your pocket for 90% of things.
Fishing knife or skinning knife for hunting. Small saw if you need wood. Not all on one trip obviously, but just a general purpose knife and something specific if required.
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>>2850852
>I need to chop
>I know, I’ll buy a slicing tool
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i kinda want to buy a billhook because they are neat, i cant really find one that comes with a sheath, and isnt stupid expensive, i could make a sheath myself, but the price in leather alone would automatically make the project 3x as expensive.

also, what style of blade should i look at? im swing between "Hampsire isle of wight" and "block"
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>>2850852
A bowie knife isn't an outdoor/bushcraft knife. It will suck at all the things you think you'll need it for, and it's good for things that you will never use it for.
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>>2850852
Feds are onto anyone posting on these kind of sites, purchasing a weapon while being under their surveillance is just asking to be framed.
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>>2850929
>>2850880
>>2850865
Ah feck, I think you guys are right. I already have a large SAK as my main carry and while hella flash that bowie is just gonna struggle against anything big whereas the axe and knife combo can take on most tasks. That said, any axe recommendations? Would a hatchet be enough or should I go for a small forest axe.

>>2850930
What the fuck are you on about?
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>>2850956
>Would a hatchet be enough or should I go for a small forest axe.
Hatchets suck, get a 2.5 pound boys axe with a 24" handle weighs an extra pound but is infinity more useful with the longer handle.
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Get a Bowie knife.
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>>2850928
hampshire faggoting would suit you well
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Not a Bowie, but I have a large leuku (8'' blade) and kukri (10'' or so blade). Bought them because, as you write, gorilla brain is a very real thing. They mostly just sit in the chest where I keep my outdoorsy things. I just find them too big and cumbersome to carry around on my belt. Now I just use a knife with a solid 4'' blade, and it's enough knife. You can even baton with it if you have to.
My thoughts on the matter are that you are better served with a hatchet if you need to cleave wood, and using your SAK for small tasks. Huge knives might work for some tasks, but I personally don't like carrying them on my belt, so that means they either stay in the pack, or I bring something with more versatile carrying options so I can keep it handy.
But it is a cool knife.
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>>2851006
Second this. 14" inches in length at minimum. Anything smaller is kinda useless and it gets more dangerous as you go lower. Go a little bigger than 14" if you won't be hiking long distances with it. It's basically a compromise between functionality and your ability to carry it around with you. If you go too big then you'll just end up leaving it home.
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>>2850852
>guy sits there batoning wood as he has been conditioned to
>another guy takes a log of the same size and smacks it on a bigger log until it splits
>the guy with the knife gets less wood and risks fucking up his knife

Exactly why do you guys do this again? Even caveman who smash wood together get more fire sticks with less mental effort.
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>>2851046
It's a very manly activity, with a big knife and sweaty muscles... I don't want people to kn- think I'm gay
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>>2851014
kek didn't even read that name
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>>2850956
get a scandinavian style hunter's axe. Gränfors, Duluth Pack etc.

Make sure its a proper axe with a stout wooden handle and solid steel head. A smaller 1-handed model is best unless you plan on chopping large logs for firewood/more permanent shelter. Axe's need to be proper quality and durable or else they'll fail you faster than a cheap knife
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>>2850852
I have an ESEE Junglas that I like. It's important that I recognize that it does its job well enough and is just plain cool and fun, not that it's the best thing for the job.

>>2850928
Imagine being a UK cop and having to tell someone that their son has been faggoted to death, subjected to a Hampshire faggoting.
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>>2850856
Solid advice. I'm euro so I would prefer a ~17cm blade
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>>2851046
>another guy takes a log of the same size and smacks it on a bigger log until it splits
What the fuck are you on about
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>>2851315
The middle one is my fav. 5" is the sweet spot for blades.
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>>2850858
Just get the 100+ piece set from cutlery corner that comes with a bunch of various folders, different sized bowies, survivals and ninja swords.
Then you can try out different sizes until you are comfortable with one that suits your needs.
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>>2850852
that's a nightmare to sharpen once it gets damaged. hatchet is like a fifth in blade length
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>>2850929
>A bowie knife isn't an outdoor/bushcraft knife

what's it for then?
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>>2851079
>Axe's need to be proper quality and durable

no, your file needs to be proper quality and durable. it's normal for an axe to get damaged and once it does you don't want to depend on a power grinder to fix it
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>>2851382
Fighting.
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A silky big boy is 1lb (450g) and can cut down trees.
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>>2851382
It's a combat knife. The handle guard is to prevent your hand from sliding up the blade when you're stabbing with it.
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>>2850900
WOOOOOOO!!!
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It was amazing
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Its kind of a niche tool, but look if you really need it for kindling then sure go and get it
I would suggest one with a thick and non sharp spine so you can use another piece of wood to wack it if needed
One more thing get a shorter one, you dont need it to 25cm long it gets unwieldy. Go to the store and see with one fits you best, i would suggets not going over 20cm but thats just me
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>>2851413
>>2851419

sounds like something that happens in favelas desu
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>>2850852
i have a 14 inch bowie knife, thing is basically a fucking sword
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>>2851419
OP would be considered a Short Sword by Roman standards.
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>>2850852
You shouldn't get a 10 inch Bowie because you don't want to end up like Bob Ewell
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>>2851504
A big dick sprayed on a wall would be seen as normal, encouraged even. Wait, where is the wall dick?? Somebody go paint one above the door before we become uncivilised.
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SOUNDS LIKE YOU NEED A COLD STEEL TRAIL BOSS, PARTNER!
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*trail master*
9.5 inches of psuedo-bowie bushcraft powa
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Best knife for that besides COLD STEEL is the Buck Hoodlum designed by Ron. I got one. The analogue is TOPS Anaconda since they stopped making my version.
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>>2851711
wtf it's an ordinary axe
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>>2851384
no, you're going to need something that can handle the high impact stress from repeated use without the head and handle loosening when youre out in the woods. please dont talk about shit you've no idea about.
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>>2850852
I just woke up, but right now I feel that wielding a giant knife is perfectly fine for any peaceful man. And indeed having a large gleaming blade in the middle of the woods would be a lot of fun on a psychological level. Huzzah!

I still wouldn't baton with it. I'd sit there and think about it and then just make a large pile of wood with a saw. But I would swish the air with it and say a few lines from Rambo. They are meme knives right? Have fun.
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>>2851732
I already have a junglee short sword for that and before anyone yaps:
https://youtu.be/YfpxS4_JnEA?si=ffgZT1jqoppMRod8
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>>2850928

I like the austrian design stubai

They have one of the best feeling handles of any blade I've used or owned

That pommel guard makes it fucking amazing to hold, and also a joy to catch, if one is so inclined to casually juggle their knife while working

You can essentially spin that fucker around one finger

Very fun to wield

Excellent full tang steel

Using it in thick bush definitely made me understand why this knife shape exists, and I can only imagine how good using it in full jungle would be.
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>>2851712
Recon is better.
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>>2850852
Do you plan on fighting large game/predators in close combat?
If no, you don't need one.
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>>2850852
You don't need a 10 in Bowie, you need a 16in so it will reach a grizzly's vitals when you engage it in hand to hand combat when it charges you and your belt pistol fails to fire because the powder in the pan got damp. You'll die, but ypur hunting companions will mention the story in passing in their journals, something along the lines of "On Dec. 10th, the year of our Lord 1843, anon got et by a bar. It kilt him, tho he wounded it sore before he was done in. Rev. Chalmers tracked and shot the bar once behind the ear, we giv him anon's Sheffield knife since he was the one what kilt the bar. We et the bar an the hide shall make a fine coat. Hope to reach St. Louis by Christmas."
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>>2851382
>>2851451
>Bowie Knife.
>In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. He designed it as a hunting knife and gave it to James for protection after his brother had been shot in a fight.
>Herzehian Dunham, Notary Public in Avoyelles Parish certified that blacksmith Jesse Clifft, who lived on Bayou Boeuf and was a close friend and neighbor of the Bowies in the 1820s, forged the knife according to Rezin Bowie's design.
>The original Bowie knife was like a butcher knife in profile, with a thin blade but no silver mounts. Bowie wore it in a silver-mounted black-leather sheath.
>The Bowie knife gained widespread notoriety after the celebrated Sandbar Fight on September 19, 1827, near Natchez. On that date Samuel Levi Wells and Dr. Thomas Maddox engaged in a duel on the first large sandbar above Natchez on the Mississippi state side of the river. After firing pistols at each other without effect, Wells and Maddox shook hands and started off the field. But members of the Maddox group suddenly fired at Wells's followers, who included James Bowie. Bowie fell, shot through a lung. An archenemy, Norris Wright, along with Alfred Blanchard, stabbed him repeatedly with swordcanes.
>In a final effort Bowie raised himself, grabbed Wright, and sank the big knife into his assailant's heart, killing him instantly. Combatants and eyewitnesses described the "large butcher knife" in letters and interviews, and a legend began.
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>>2850852
Like others said, it’s unnecessary and a hatchet would much better suite your needs but, what the heck, treat yourself m8y. Big ass knives like that are meant for killing people. They can be used to process wood but that’s retarded when a hatchet can be had. I get it, we all buy dumb shit for the aesthetic so yeah, go buy the knife. Then when you feel dumb realizing it sucks at processing wood, get a hatchet and then keep the knife as a cool token to your autism.

And then when you get tired of dragging downed trees to chop at like a madman with a hatchet, you will reach nirvana and become saw pilled.
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>>2853104
Sometimes you et the bar and sometimes the bar ets you
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>>2853113
>And then when you get tired of dragging downed trees to chop at like a madman with a hatchet, you will reach nirvana and become saw pilled.
This man speaks the truth.
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>>2851317
>5" is the sweet spot for blades.
... x 2.54...hmmm...
I agree with this anon.
A ~13cm blade is a nice sweet spot. If you want to batonny chop chop you can, if you want to do a featherstick you can. It's a pretty good size.

>>2850928
Unless you plan on cutting grass or do some trail maintenance, try to get something with the least of a curve possible.
As for the sheath...I made one out of thin plywood (5mm) for mine. Since I either carry it on the backpack or have it unsheathed it didn't matter much.
P.S.: how expensive is leather around you? I can get a 3mm veg tan belly for like 11€.
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>>2850852
I have a Varusteleka skrama, I've used it at work for brushing out trees for measurements, good knife. Personally that would be the better option due to the larger handle and purpose design as a brush knife.
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>>2850852
4 inches is enough if you know what you are doing.
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>>2853163
4in is good for a camp knife. Big enough to use easily for cooking, prepping wood shavings for tinder, stuff like that, and small enough to not be heavy or bulky. Pair it with a folding saw and a camp axe, and your bases are covered.
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>>2853104
>anon got et by a bar
kek
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>>2850852
I will not convince you otherwise.
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>>2852396
Sounds like I need a knife.
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>>2852396
what kinda predators can you fight with a knife
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>>2852331
>>2850928
i have one it hurts and sprains my small finger after using it all day to hack at thick bushes
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If the only non-modern gear you have on you is a Bowie, you'll look like a dork (or a cop)
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>>2853391
Its not the 1700s anymore.
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>>2853402
That piece of shit wouldn't get you half a mile
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I carry a knife like that for defence, I use a little folding opinel knife and opinel folding saw for processing wood, the little knife is good for everything really including food prep and skinning. But I do hunt pigs sometimes so it's best to have a big sharp knife just in case.
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>>2853402
gay and expensive
i was thinking i could sharpen it a lot and slice through with barely any power kinda like a katana slices through 4" bamboo effortlessly but i bet the steel is widely inferior
guess a folding saw is always an option impact ain't so good for the jointserinos
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>>2850852
If you're just chopping wood, then get a kukri/ small machete.
I'm sure you can find a better one somewhere but this is the one I have.
A lot easier than carrying a hatchet or a full sized machete.

>>2850928
Billhooks are great, but I've only found them useful when pruning or clearing brambles.
Not sure if OP would want something like this.
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>>2853387
All of them. With a knife, you can fight anything.
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>>2853603
i'd like to fight a bull with a knife how bout you
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It sounds cumbersome but I use to travel with a big mace and it was exceptional at shattering logs into fire wood. One or two swings was usually enough to make a full stack.
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>>2850852
do you have a knife that works? then don't buy a new one. use the one you have until it breaks. quit buying shit, what are you a woman
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>>2853160
This is all you need.
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>>2856017
I agree. They're monsters of knives.
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>>2852331
I have the same as the one in your pic and I love it
in France it's called 'serpette italienne' btw
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>>2850877
Those are fucking hideous kek
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>>2850852
I'm probably replying too late but huge bowie knives are based and sexy so if you want a cheap one to play with and test before you buy an expensive one, then track down a "schrade old timer" on ebay for around $50. They are cheapo chinese bowies but they are full tang and generally good quality. Certainly cheap and good enough for a disposable evaluation blade to see if you like the style before you buy an expensive one.

pic related is my favorite style but I don't think they make it anymore so ebay is the only option. I always wrap the nylon sheath in black gorilla tape to make it stronger.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/389490622588
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>>2850862
>It's going to look like you're wearing a sword, as long as you're ok with that.
Uh yea?
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>>2850858
Knives for serious fire prep is underkill, actually, and if you're depending on the fire to stay warm in a remote place you really don't want to risk >>2859390. A hatchet is going to be better for dealing with
>massive pieces of firewood.
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>>2859060
think so?
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>>2853402
ooh, does your sissy ass need a seesii, yes?
a cutesy wee sissy seesii, hmmmm?
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>>2850858
You answered your own question in a way.
If you have always been good with just a multitool, but now you want to add something to do some light wood chopping to make kindling... Then get something suited for light wood chopping to make kindling! A knife really isn't ideal for that task. I've ruined 2 good knives batonning. I literally got gifted a bear grylls survival bushcraft axe (i.e. piece of shit meme item) and its been a better fit for task than the knives.

The only downside of a small axe is weight, but if you actually use it its gonna save time, energy, money and frustration.
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>>2859390
yeah, if you're going to baton frozen wood I would use something with better steel than chinesium.
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>>2853402
if you buy the chinkslasher 6600 and actually bring it outside you deserve to be inseminated to death by a bear
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>>2850852
>Convince me otherwise before I drop serious money on this thing.
No.
You've already convinced yourself that you want it.
Get it, be happy, and carry it around with you for a while, then leave it in your desk drawer as a zombie apocalypse weapon.
Same as we all did but won't admit.
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>>2850852

Weight vs. utility. 10" fixed blade weighs nearly as much as folding saw + pocket or smaller fixed blade knife. You can do more with those.
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>>2850877
>H

OP, picrel
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>>2860337
>that tip neutering
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>>2860470
>why dont actors just stab eachother for real

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