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I want to have camping adventures like Rin chan, traveling with a tent and staying in camping places around southern germany and central europe as a whole, but I need to make a choice
Either I go the Rin route and buy a scooterlike motorbike or I buy an e-bike
On one hand with the motorbike I get to go farther away and faster and have more carrying capacity, but with the e-bike I have full access to europe's large bike trail network and can travel by train with it when necessary. Also, thanks to the engine, hilly terrain isn't a problem
Help me make a choice
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>>2854573
>I want to have camping adventures like Rin chan,
Then go and do it, you fag LARPer.
Where are you going to charge the e-bike?
How's the autonomy of the thing? I mean, if it does 25km on a charge it won't be very useful, will it?
>with the e-bike I have full access to europe's large bike trail network
As if the hordes of Indians on e-scooters delivering food or whatever weren't enough. Now we'll also have clueless LARPers.
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>>2854573
>like comic figure
okay I hope you really want what you think you want
>camping places
camp sites? why? that's stupid, I mean I never been to one I only tried once and got turned down for this and that legal reason, but AFAIK they just charge you money so you can stay in a stupid overcrowded place and have basic effekinating amenities
>mtorbike or e-bike
motor motor motor, maybe try not to be LGBT? Besides ethic, moral and spiritual reasons to not be a motorist there are practical ones too: You don't run out of the foreign source of energy you depend on and many areas (especially in BW) are legally off limits to you if youre a motorist (I know I know... that psyop with convincing the wider public that MoFa / MoPed is not a motorvehicle when you make it electric).
>farther and faster
a bicycle will get you the furthest. Half way around the globe and back.
>bike trail network, travel by train
just stop the participation in LGBT and motorist conspiracy. I can tell you that mindset is probably a good indicator that outdoors isn't really for you.
Get a bicycle. Pack a bag. Hit the road and have fun.
T. Originally bavarian but always all over the place.
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>>2854589
>ethic, moral and spiritual reasons to not be a motorist
lmao
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>>2854759
>respont to muh madeup majik word damit!!11
yeah autistics are also degenerate
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>>2854769
point out the supposed 'magic word' that is allegedly used to bait (You).
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>>2854589
>>2854759
do you honestly expect your tendies to show up in your mother's basement only using cuck bikes?
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>>2854784
hey lil retard, calm down, it's not our fault you picked special interests that clash super hard in the contemporary political spectrum.
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>>2854787
I guess the verdict is out OP:
For your 'camping adventures' you are required to buy the big homo truck, you need 4WD and lots of power to compensate for and reinforce the weakness of the body and mind.
You will then have to drive it along the cager inclusion zone to the parking lot, where you finally get to step out into nature for a small hike.
It will save you from mentally arduous tasks like planning or ever having to fear lack of comfort, since you can just toss all your things that you'll never need in your big truck.
Also be a good boy and don't forget to fill her up, need to keep that juice flowing. Neither taxes nor Putins and the Sheikhs income are going to just materialize out of thin air.
Somehow OP incorporating such faggotry in his leisure activities is also going to magically produce tendies.
Sadly many places will be legally off limits for OP with this mode of transportation, especially any forest in BW, part of the specific area OP wants to go. Since the local laws state that the forests are off limits to LGBT, unless the gaysled is like the one shown here because that's somehow different: >>2854780
It must be the exhaust fumes. No other explanation for the absolute mental state of the motorhomo.
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>>2854796
just go back to redit son, they have whole sections dedicated to basement dwellers assmad at the freedom the engine gives to the functional human being.
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>dude just cycle everywhere :)
OK what about getting to the campsite that's say 80km+ outside the nearest city and has no lane, infrastructure or anything?
>haha dude it doesn't matter just do it bro :)
4chan is genuinely retarded indoor LARPers that don't live in reality
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>>2855996
sounds like YOU are the one who don't cycle. because if you do you'd know how impossible it is to do anything INSIDE towns with all the cars and shit zipping around
once you got out though, 80km isn't even that hard. i once covered like 50km without even realizing it because now i got the freedom to zip at full speed all i want
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>>2856012
>no proofs
>no photos
Concession: accepted
Also unless you live where I do then the situation is different
You tell me how I can cycle to a campsite 85km away from town, that's after I've somehow cycled into town
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>>2855996
not 'every day' but yes, when I'm outing it is exactly what I do
you know, I have a life besides outing for leisure
but I commute 30 km etc. so it's not like I sit on my ass workdays
and the terrain here is pre-alpine and I often go there because it's nice
but thank you for your admiration, even if you have a weird way expressing it, through explaining how (You) can't see yourself doing it.
Meanwhile I always think hikers are impressive. At least when they hike proper distances. You see, I don't have to carry my stuff on my back. I can load much more on the bicycle than someone could carry in a pack and it's easy to move it and I cover a days worth of hiking in an hour or two easily.
But (You) probably don't hike. Like you don't cycle. You're the only one LARPing, which is probably how you arrive at the absurd idea that someone spent time fantasizing online. Seems lile a (You) thing.
>>2856008
Towns aren't that bad my dude. I go through one on my commute every day. Did the whole brakeless fixed fad back then and you learn fast to anticipate the results of the motorists braindamage. There will be a few injuries and the following encounters with the motorist tho.
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>>2854573
just get a car or motorcycle. anti motor fags often call our way of travel stressfull, whats stressfull about leaving work on friday and waking up next to some river in sweden saturday morning? i just got into my car and drove a few hours, the same time and effort with a bike and you wouldnt have left the municipality. and no its not expensive, cars can be had for 500€ and a couple of weeks roadtrippin norway, sweden, finland from south to north cost me about 1000€ in fuel. thats not expensive, people buy plane tickets for 5x that.
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>>2854573
Not sure what model that one is, but i assume it's similar to the vespa scooter i used to drive daily. Which in that case, yes, it's more than capable for your purposes. I'm not sure about the electric models though, never tried one, but if you're gonna use it for an /out/ing personally I'm kinda wary about recharging it
Also just ignore the bikefags and carcucks ITT. The former are immature homosexuals and the latter are mongoloid subhumans. Scooters are the optimal transportation method of enlightened individuals
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Let me guess, you *need* more?
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>>2856055
It is quite the opposite. There are many traits that are, in the collective conscious, associated with women. Weakness and low resilience for example.
The automobile caters to those, ot caters to women.
The person driving their relies on an ecternal source of power. They are either to weak to do it themselves and just give into the cycle where motorism will then cause further degeneration or they are too lazy or lack the emotional resilience to ever do something hard themselves.
Automobiles cater to the needs of women, homosexuals, children, weak and ill, cripples and other degenerates and motorism creates a feedback loop and downward spiral. It breeds weak bodies, weak minds, thin skin and antisocial behavior.
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>>2854573
Consider what you want to do at the places you're camping at. Do you want to hike or visit villages? Then just get a car, far more comfortable and you can bring more stuff, plus you're independent of the weather. If you want to drive a motorbike, get one, but know that you can carry less and have to deal with the weather while on it. A real motorbike preferably, it's safer and allows you to drive on highways as well if you want to drive large distances quickly. If you want to drive a bike, get a bike (or an e-bike by all means). Just know you will spend a large amount of time getting from one place to the other on your bike, and the weather dependence is exacerabted.
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>>2856154
there is nothing effiminate about driving a truck or 4x4. its not masculine, girls can do that, but its not feminine. you can rescue your sister stuck at her cabin, or our father stuck getting firewood, nothing feminine about that?
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>>2856200
its possible to bike long distances, my grandpa and some mates decided they wanted to visit oslo, so they biked there. thats 500km on gravel road as it where in the 30s but they did it and they returned back.
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>>2856211
Germans constantly complain about cycling infrastructure (and it's nowhere near dutch levels or such) but outside the big cities you can usually find agricultural or forestry roads where noone will bother you.
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>>2854573
its not as nice as it seem, people are not nice at camping places, germams are really rude. they dont want to befrlend you they want to hate you. its a veird feeling. im ok with wanting to be left alone but dont make it thag clear?
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>>2856215
OP specified germany, didn't he? I am aware that low pop density countries don't have those roads. Makes me wonder whether that's half the reason american trails and parks are supposedly overcrowded, the normies can't just hike through their local landscape on car-free roads.
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>>2856218
>racing bikes dont get you places
If the places have tarmac they do.
I don't drive them anymore since I drive a car myself and realized how much of a hassle going past them is, but you're substantially quicker getting across the land. Also when I was younger there was no satellite communication, so trying to find those little roads without cars was just impossible if you didn't know the area. So you would never leave the big roads anyway.
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>>2856277
Your just being a pussy, everytime I bike i have to ride 1-10km on the road to achieve freedom in the hills. One thing I will note however is everyone here complains about pickup truck drivers when in reality its women and cuckmen in small toyota yaris's who are incredibly afraid to dare to cross the double yellow to give space. Meanwhile I have literally NEVER had a driver of a pickup truck be within 5 feet of me driving on the side of the road they normally completely switch into the oncoming lane if the situation is appropriate.
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>>2856275
I reckon reading somewhere that you can buy the chassis without the cuckbox. You could fabricate something yourself. All these bicyclecars are going to look pretty gay, not sure if that will ever be any different.
Also this one in particular has a bit of storage in the back. It can also tow a bicycle trailer.
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>>2856283
Bro I live deep in rural canada every road I bicycle on looks exactly like that if not worse. Those are honestly generous paved shoulders it goes to gravel that is 1 feet wide at best one inch after the white lines here. pic related is the most popular road bicycling route near my town
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>>2856285
like I said previously every single pickup truck driver will literally wait and then move entirely into the other lane to pass. I do have to watch for crossover and compact drivers, who believe they will be ticketed for crossing double yellow to help a cyclist. I'm a reasonable person though so I immediately dismount and let people pass if more then one car is behind me and there is oncoming traffic.
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>>2856285
i biked to elementary school for 4 years along such a road with 80kmh speed limit. 5km each way. we even had classes in school to teach us kids good walking or biking practice along such a heavy trafficated road as that. lots of timber trucks, milk tankers, long haul transport that came over the mountains from sweden. one of the key thing we was told was ride against traffic. you are not a car or motorcycle, you cant keep up with the speed, you dont have mirrors.. ride against traffic and then you see cars approacing, they can see that you see them and you can move over if needed.
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>>2856291
Interesting i'm the CAD anon who is hurling adhoms at the guy who is afraid to bike on a road. Here its illegal to bike into traffic, you must bike with traffic as even the 20-30kph speed of a bicycle will save your life if your hit in the rear by someone doing 50-70kph it'll be a 20kph hit not a 100kph incident.
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Yurushitter trannies are the cancer of this site and fuck mods for not banning them.
They know their dogshit threads would die on their f/a/ggot board, so they come here, knowing it will stay alive thanks to /out/'s slower pace.
Yurucuck threads are basically the cairns of /out/. An invasive out of place garbage, made by some fat fuck autist.
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>>2856778
>Motor there
>Use an irresponsible amount of energy because weak and lazy
>Fill the war chest of various negroid despotes
>Poison everyones air and accelerate climate change
>Randomly hit people and injure them
>Ruin the very area you seek to visit through car traffic
Why don't you just ride your bike instead?
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>>2856832 #
It may be surprising to you but people exist who are not interested to 'belong to' or 'be part of' a group or any other hivemind BS.
Also you're relatively stupid if you really fail to see how almost all data points towards antrophogenic climate change.
In either case you're inconsiderate of others if you accept the possibility of hurting someone else directly - you probably use the euphemism 'accident'.
And you're either stupid or invonsiderate again if you fail to see that motorvehicles emit not only CO2 but also noise, brake dust, HC, NOx, PM... which ultimately harms other people.
Meanwhile you are lazy or degenerate enough to knowingly accept all those effects because you're too weak or too lazy and 'you got used to it and it was normalized before we knew all this' and you're again too lazy to change a habit so instead you rather deceive yourself. That's easier.
Homosexual.
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>>2856811
>Why don't you just ride your bike instead?
Because I have a job. Riding 300 miles takes time. Cycling is great and less reliance on personal vehicles is as well, but I haven't made it my special interest and will use it when it's practical. Since /out/ is a slow board I can only assume you'll seethe in this thread for months to come. Enjoy I guess.
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>>2856849
>propaganda regarding personal use
So all the pollution is rooted in god knows what but never a consumer decision?
KYS fag.
Consumer demand is what drives industry, production and innovation.
It is quite literally the root cause for ALL pollution, land use etc.
But I guess it's just an easy way to be cool with yourself and your addiction to comfort to imagine an occult entity that somehow causes the majority of pollution while your choices hardly contribute anything and thus doing whatever you want is coincidentially the right choice.
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>>2858797
You act like an oil shill. Those are the people that try to push it on to consumers. I advocate for, vote for, and educate about alternate forms of energy. Grid energy does the most damage.
Anon's special interest in cycling and oil propaganda really doesn't mean everyone should abandon motorized vehicles forever. That's retarded.
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>>2854573
Me: retard nadeshiko maxxing, slurp cup noodles
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