>>2856572
>>>/trv/

>>2856572
>ITT: Anons got a job.
I'm on the edge of my seat about how this goes.
>Also ITT: Anon is obsessing over the simples trivialities you could ever imagine.
>Is a proper drybag worth it?
IMO it is a bad idea to carry a drybag only. You should rather carry a normal bag and put a drybag inside for things that you want to stay dry, in doubt everything.
The reason is that if you got sweaty, damp or even wet clothes or towels you're forced to put those into your drybag, with your good stuff, and seal. the whole thing up. Yummy. This will not only prevent your shit from drying and get everything else wet it also promotes microbiome.

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>>2856576
>obsessing over the simples trivialities you could ever imagine
Is that not what /out/ is all about? I'm just a bit meticulous with a lot of aspects of my life; it's fun
>put a drybag inside
Sounds like a good way to go about it. Thanks for the advice, anon

>>2856572
my most recent NF backpack was a real disappointment. it wasn't water resistant at all, and the shoulder strap ripped completely off when I was in the field. only had it for a couple years and didn't abuse it. I replaced it with a fjallraven bag and I've been very happy with it, especially since you can wax them, but I always keep a dry bag just in case.
ymmv though, their duffels seem pretty nice but I can only speak to a backpack experience. seems like their quality has gotten inconsistent

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>>2856572
Any cheap silnylon or silpoly bag will work if you just need splash or rain resistance. Dozens of options here.
Almost everything short of a drybag will wet out in a prolonged downpour or being dropped off the side of a boat.

>>2856572
NorthFace Base Camp duffel. Size small.

>>2856572
I'm an animal for work and literally have not paid for housing in over a year. I live out of a $50 k-mart duffle. Goes in all sorts of vehicles and is still hanging in there. I have a hard case for my devices though.

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>>2856721
What kind of hard case do you have?
I've considered putting one inside of a soft bag, but it seems kinda bulky

>>2856727
Got a knock off pelicase. It's a little heavier than the name brand but it's held up. I have a much smaller one for some other devices that goes in the holdall and it weighs nothing. Only spent 50 credits on the small one.

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I don't think you can find them new anymore but the last time I traveled I took an UnderArmour SC30 backpack I had. It's like an extra large backpack that holds a lot and has a few extra pockets like a long water bottle pocket on one side. I just measured mine and it's 21" tall, between 12"-14" wide depending on how full the side pockets are and about 7" deep so it meets carry-on restrictions for most airlines. Regardless of what bag you choose I wouldn't worry about it being super extremely waterproof since you can always carry a garbage bag ,clear or colored, to put it in during really wet jobs.

>>2856727
Hard cases make you an easy target for thieves; they signal to people, "I'm carrying something valuable that can't break in transit."

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>>2856798
Theft is a good point, though I imagine it's not that big of a deal so long as the case never leaves your side. Don't think I'd ever want to hand it over to airlines or something.
>>2856730
The main thing I'd want a hardcase for is a laptop or tablet. Maybe this isn't much of an issue, but I'm not sure how well a large thin device will hold up being tossed around in a soft-sided bag. I have picrel, for example, but it's really bulky and I'm not sure it's even necessary

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i heard good things about the farpoint trek from osprey. it's specifically designed as a carry-on bag. might be worth looking into

>>2856837
i meant the fairpoint travel pack, not the trek.

>>2856822
Look into Zero Halliburton attaches.

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>>2856851
I have a few of their wheelie luggage cases and they are quite nice, yes, but they still have the same issue where they're quite bulky for what I plan to put inside (mainly just a laptop). An eyecatching brushed metal attache is also probably the worst in terms of the "steal this" signaling that >>2856798 mentioned.
>>2856837
Coincidentally, I already have one of their older bags from this line (ozone)
Great bag, but I'm looking for something mainly meant to not be worn on your back (and thus be made primarily to live on the floor), though the option to do so is great. I like the single compartment and the compression flaps that go over the water bottle compartment, though.

>>2856864
>An eyecatching brushed metal attache is also probably the worst in terms of the "steal this"
Not if it's your carryon.

>>2856798
Unfortunately bundling all of my ammo and devices into a pillowcase doesn't cut it so I'll have to just be on my guard I suppose.

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For a duffle you have lots of options. You could get a filson for $600 or an all leather from quoddy or buffalo jackson etc for a couple hundred. This is my reccomeded plane flying loadout. The backpack is waterproof and fits under a plane seat with a fully opening zipper, the shoes are real handmade mocs and can be worn in winter to summer as well as be taken off and put on quickly while being molested by the tsa, the duffel is 40L and just about the max size for a carryon which is what you want, careful when shopping for duffels because the dimentions may exceed tsas rules. Pants are fjallraven cargos with some waterproofing and are not too hot to prevent ass sweating, then a few layers to change insulation levels based on climate includung a rain jacket you can shove in your bag and a cotton sweater as wool could get too hot and fleece really doesn't fucking breathe.

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>>2856769
Ll bean makes a less butt ugly similar bag to this.
Dimensions: 18"L x 12.5"W x 6.5"D.
Capacity: 2,014 cu. in., 33 L.
Weight: 2 lb. 8 oz.

There is a 37L version but this one is already pushing it for underseat sizing.

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Also you can waterproof any fabric by painting on a mix of 100% silicon caulk cut with mineral spirits. This will impregnate silicone into the fabric. Let it dry for 24 hours and it will be waterproofed short of throwing it into the ocean for more than a few seconds. This is a trick motorcyclists use to waterproof their gloves and clothes for riding in the rain.

Monitoring thread. I travel a lot too looking to upgrade my grip

>>2856982
You can't put ammo in a carryon.

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>>2857094
If you're looking for the best for a duffle without going full leather, get one of these;

$499

Built with durable and water-resistant oil finish Tin Cloth
Dry finish Cover Cloth lining
Reinforced base adds structure to aid packing
Removeable, adjustable cotton webbing shoulder strap
Vegetalbe-tanned Bridle Leather handles and grip
Trolley strap slides over rolling luggage handles.

Material

14-oz. 100% cotton oil finish Tin Cloth + 6-oz. dry finish Cover Cloth + Bridle Leather
Capacity

34L
Dimensions

19"L x 7"W x 11.5"H

SKU

F2020282280-1

>>2857096
>generic chinese junk with a legacy brand tag
>$500
no thanks

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>>2857109
You can get the made in usa ones for $599 from them but I prefer the side pockets. Also their imported products are usually bangladesh not china which is arguably worse.

>>2857112
>he thinks "made in USA" means the bag was made in USA

>>2857125
The normal regulation for made in usa is 65% domestic manufactured parts plus assembly in the US. This is greater than the swiss standard of 60% and is being raised to 75% by 2029. I would assume the canvas and leather to be domestically sourced but the zippers and hardware to be of foreign manufacture.

That said all that really matters is the qc not the soil something is made above. There are plenty of absolutely dogshit products made in the usa and europe

>>2857129
>The normal regulation for made in usa is 65% domestic manufactured parts plus assembly in the US.
this is false. the FTC doesn't use a percentage-based standard for unqualified country of origin claims. in fact, the standard is actually supposed to be 100% ("all or virtually all") US materials with final assembly in the US. in practice, this means that the canvas was probably shipped from the US to Vietnam, where the bag was assembled, and the 99% complete bag was shipped back and the little white filson tag was attached with a "made in USA" label.
there is also lots of flexibility regarding what is considered domestic materials. generally speaking, the "final transformative addition" rule from customs still applies. for example, the canvas was likely imported from a foreign country, "processed" in the US, then exported for product assembly.

the bag was made out of foreign materials and manufactured in a foreign factory using textiles that passed through the US.

>all that really matters is the qc
this is true, but recall my comment about how it looks like cheap junk from a declining apparel company who's only value is brand recognition.

>>2857137
>>The normal regulation for made in usa is 65% domestic manufactured parts plus assembly in the US.
>this is false. the FTC doesn't use a percentage-based standard for unqualified country of origin claims. in fact, the standard is actually supposed to be 100% ("all or virtually all") US materials with final assembly in the US. in practice, this means that the canvas was probably shipped from the US to Vietnam, where the bag was assembled, and the 99% complete bag was shipped back and the little white filson tag was attached with a "made in USA" label.
>there is also lots of flexibility regarding what is considered domestic materials. generally speaking, the "final transformative addition" rule from customs still applies. for example, the canvas was likely imported from a foreign country, "processed" in the US, then exported for product assembly
Nah this is illegal. Made in USA is fairly strict. I do agree that we need more regulation for what is considered made in usa with even more strict guidelines. I don't consider them to be cheap looking although they are overpriced by a few hundred dollars. Actually with their sourcing for the $499 bag the leather is american, canvas is british and is 14oz which is a medium heavy weight. I think what cheapens the look is the dye they use on the leather which honestly makes it look plasticy when bridle leather looks much better at a tan color. It is possible they're using cheaper bridle leather with visible stretch marks and are trying to hide it. That said, you don't pay full price for anything ever.

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>>2857096
It doesn't really meet my purpose. That bag is more of a fashion accessory (nothing wrong with that), whereas I want something that will hold up a little better to luggage handlers and the elements.
>>2857109
>>2857112
For me, what else turns me off from the item is that it's from one of those old companies with great reputation that they're in the process of cashing in after being acquired by PE. The old stuff is excellent, but the new production is probably no better than something much cheaper (e.g. I've heard decent things about frost river). There are lots of other options for that price and it really doesn't stand out from the sea of alphabet soup junk on amazon either. I'd only see myself buying it at an in-person store where I could get a decent feel about what I'm buying and to make use of their free repairs.

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>>2857153
I've been looking at frost river and bradley mountain myself. Honestly it's not great for the price and you could get a better bag from a company known for full leather. This quoddy one is only $225 (when in stock). I'm sure the bag is still good but the hype really has inflated the prices. I have a flannel from them that is very nice and heavy and the pattern matching is excellent, it is only brushed on the twill on the interior while the exterior is rough. It's made in india though. The chinese do copy what is popular though so it's unsurprising that there would be plenty of similar cheap products with pleather handles and cheap canvas with god knows what wax on them.

I wish the bradley mountain backpacks weren't fucking 28L, it's pathetic. And frost rivers styling is kind of shitty.

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>>2856572
if you wanna be cheap, Rothco sells 24" canvas duffle bags for $30
I use them for work shit so I don't have to feel bad dirtying up a nice bag
hit them with some waterproofing spray if you don't get the waxed ones and they'll hold up decently

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>>2857154
This is a $500 bradley mountain one. You get more for your money in terms of leather. It is also usa made from a much younger company.

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>>2857156
That's 42L and there is a matching rolltop that is small at 15-20L for the underseat bag. Both are 18oz canvas as opposed to the filsons 14oz. Both are made in usa. The straps on this are all 9oz leather as well which is fucking thick btw if you don't know leather weights.

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>>2857157
And this is $360

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>>2857154
>>2857156
>>2857157
>>2857158
>>>/fa/

>>2857095
So I got a hard case. What are you failing to grasp here?

>>2857165
You don't need to travel with ammunition.

>>2857239
Ahh, so you're just "le ebin trolling". Retard.

>>2856572
Check out Cactus Outdoor gear, it’s bulletproof.

>>2857333
They have one duffel bag and it's 55L which is much too large for a carry on.

>>2857331
You're retarded if you're actually traveling with ammunition.

>>2857370
Ok no guns

>>2857367
Just ask them for a smaller one, they'll do it.
Everything's handmade in NZ. The Supertrousers are awesome, easy 10+ years of daily use. I'm talking everything from workshop to motocrossing to hiking, climbing etc. Dreadnaughts are too heavy unless you're spending all day on a skifield or something. But I'm pretty sure my grandchildren will inherit them.

>>2857367
This one is specifically listed as carry-on.
https://cactusoutdoor.co.nz/collections/packs-and-bags/products/big-burly-bag-canvas

>>2857370
>let me tell you about your job
Keep stacking those shelves, retard.

>>2856572
Check out the Aquaquest WhiteWater duffel. It doesn't have backpack straps, but is nice and heavy duty.

>>2857483
What job? You're just a bagger.

>>2857584
Fair enough, NEETing is based. I shoot goats and pigs on islands as a small part of my job.

>>2857607
The islands don't have ammo??

>>2857628
No, they don't have plumbing typically.

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Get a ~40L carry on hardshell and a ~30L backpack for going under the seat. You don't want to be a dufflebag cuck for hours at a time when you're flying with both of these. There will be times when you have to stand around for extended periods when flying and you don't want the duffle for that. It's also more annoying when boarding as you attempt to not smack people in the face while you go down the airplane aisle. Just buy a 40L carry on. Away makes one for ~$275 and travelpro makes a budget tier one for $160. I've done the dufflebag plus backpack and I've done the big backpack little backpack and it fucking sucks. Get an actual carryon.

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>>2857740
I already have hard luggage for other traveling
I specifically need a soft bag for small aircraft (mainly helicopters) where luggage compartments are irregular

>>2857794
What don't you like about TNF duffel you posted in your op? They are pretty much perfect for your needs.

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>>2857803
My main concern is waterproofing. I don't need the bag to withstand being immersed like a proper drybag, but I'd like for it to be made out of the same water-repellent stuff. Also, my thinking is that if a bag is waterproof, it'll be easier to clean when it gets dropped in mud or something.
>>2856717
I looked into some options today and I found that the "Base Camp" bag is a different product from the "Base Camp Voyager" bag (OP pic). The "Base Camp" TNF bag seems to fit the bill, but it's slightly too big to be a carry-on due to it being cylindrical. While I'm sure it'd probably be fine, I wish they'd make them in the shape of the "voyager"

Maybe I'll get the XS

>>2857807
Have you looked at the Osprey Transporter 40L Waterproof Duffel?

>>2857807
>the "Base Camp Voyager" bag (OP pic).
Ah, didn't notice that. Thought it was one of the basecamp ones. I have a medium one and it's my favourite travel bag. I wouldn't worry too much about the cylinder shape and carry-on restrictions, as long as you don't stuff the bag full and it has some squishiness, they will let you on.

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>>2857812
The lazy photoshopped preview images don't really inspire confidence. I'm also not a big fan of TPU over something like PVC due to the lower chemical resistance. Otherwise, looks like a great option. I'll definitely consider it.
>>2857813
Are you able to bring the medium as a carry on? Seems like that would be explicitly over the limit, whereas the small is plausible. I guess in practice, your bag just has to be smaller than the McMutts and Chinese who are hauling mountains of shit into the cabin, kind of like how cabin crew will generally never stop you from taking a small carry-on with you during emergency evacuations.

On a related note, reminder to take important items (documents, phone, wallet, etc.) with you when evacuating a plane in an emergency because you're never seeing your belongings ever again. Even if it's a nothingburger and your luggage isn't damaged or anything, they'll usually chuck it all in a dumpster or auction it as lost luggage (also depends on the airline).

>>2857088
Nta but are LLBean packs any good?
I like the look of this one a lot.

>>2857980
>Are you able to bring the medium as a carry on?
Absolutely not. The small one would be pushing it, but doable if it was 75% packed and better than the XS, which would be too small imo.

>>2858646
They're not bad but they aren't super high quality buy it for life or anything. Then again who is anymore, everybody has lowered their quality.

>>2857807
I would suggest either the Base Camp XS or S or the Osprey Farpoint 40, depending on your needs. Base Camp XS or S for rough use/allround, Farpoint 40 if you have to carry it on your back for longer periods, or have to carry a laptop with you.
I have three Large model Base Camp duffels. My sister borrowed one for eight years. The oldest, which must be like 17 years now, is in Italy, but the dago I lent it to five years ago keeps forgetting to bring it when I'm there.
Anyway it's a banging duffel bag. Rainproof enough that you don't need to worry about putting it down in the snow or leaving it in the rain for a little while., solid material. The D-shaped lid and the good zipper makes it easy to stuff it full. The shoulder straps are actually usable, even if it's not super ergonomic to carry it for very long periods of time. There's some lack of organizing options, but you can solve that with some lightweight packing cubes.

The Farpoint is an OK backpack. Hip belt that works and isn't for show, good straps, nice and airy back. If you're flying, you can easily pack the straps away, which is nice if you want to take it as a carry-on, so the straps don't snag on anything.
Outside-access laptop pocket is handy, and the organizing panels inside make it easy to organize your gizmos and doodats.
You will want packing cubes to pack in, and conveniently enough, Osprey's ultralight set fit beautifully. They also sell a transparent 1-litre toiletries bag, and that also fits. Bag isn't as waterproof as the Base Camp duffel, but surprise surprise, Osprey also sells a light rain cover for it.
One downside with the Farpoint is that if you use the stuff pocket on the back, it easily bulges backwards like a dome if you have anything in your pack, so it looks like you're lugging a turtleshell around. The shape is a bit odd, notably the width, because it's made to maximize the volume within carry-on size requirements, but it's still comfortable to carry.

>>2859587
(cont)
I don't know what your needs are like, so I thought I'd share my packing list for when I'm traveling for business without checked bags, packing either in a carry-on suitcase or the Farpoint 40. I have not tried the Base Camp XS, but on paper it has a lower volume, so I don't know if you can fit all this in it.
>Packing cube, small: Underwear and socks for up to 5 days
>Packing cube, medium: T-shirts and thin sweaters for up to 5 days, wool underwear if going somewhere cold, shorts or sweatpants
>Packing cube, large: Spare set of pants, spare shirt(s) - For longer trips only
>Toiletries bag: Toothbrush, -paste, floss, deodorant, comb, perfume, blister bandages, nail clippers with file, a few Q-tips.
I don't have very strong beard growth, so I get away with shaving before I go, but if that's a problem for you I'd just as well buy a cheap razor on-site and leave it there, or pack a Bic disposable and a travel-size shaving foam.
>Electronics: Laptop if needed, charger(s).
>2 lightweight tote bags - One for laundry, one for day trips/personal item on the flights. Get synthetic ones, put your packing cubes in them, there's a little extra waterproofing.
I usually bring a second pair of shoes, in case I need to dress sharp or the other pair gets wet Usually loafers or running shoes. Wear the heaviest or largest pair, pack the other.
I don't have any problem making the weight for carry-on luggage, even if I use the heavier suitcase. Part of the trick is just stuffing things in my pant and coat pockets. Phone, e-reader or book, passport, wallet, headphones... If I need to dress up on the trip, I'll also wear my blazer on the flight rather than packing it.

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>>2859587
>you don't need to worry about putting it down in the snow or leaving it in the rain for a little while
Sounds great, anon. Thanks for the recommendation.
>not super ergonomic to carry
At most I'll be lugging it through a building or to the street, so no big deal for me.
>Farpoint
Certainly a good bag, I already have one!
>packing cubes
Personally I've never liked/used them much. My bags are plenty organized without them though, so maybe it requires a certain autism (or lack thereof) to use.
>>2859588
>make sure to bring underwear and socks
kek thx mom
>I'll also wear my blazer on the flight rather than packing it.
Oh, yeah, for regular trips I carry nothing besides a small laptop bag. You can reliably buy anything you could possibly need at the destination or at the airport. For example, the airline/hotel always gives you a toothbrush and toothpaste.
On one occasion it was inconvenient when I had a drink spilled on me, but I can't imagine it would be that much less inconvenient to change into your spare clothes than to just buy extras when you need them.
>>2858650
>Absolutely not
Figured as much
>>2858646
>>2858861
The pocket layout reminds me of an old external frame bag I have. Don't remember the manufacturer though.

>>2857980
The carry-on restrictions are hard limits if you have a hard-shell bag. Having a soft/squishy duffel gives you way more leniency.