The only thing that's a little unusual is my 6L hydropak water bag. I carry 8L for overnights innadesert. I know AZT thru hikers often carry less, but there are known water sources at intervals on the trail. I just go wander around in the sky islands. There are springs on the map but they're often dry. I've marked the locations of cattle tanks but sometimes they move the herds and the tanks are dry.

Oh wow that is a cool piece of gear! Is it compatible with a sawyer water filter or how do you fill it on the trail? I may have to get one for when camp is far from a water source that would be game changing for dinner time & clean up without having to walk back & forth between the creek all night

>>2858015
Take the hammock pill.

>>2858268
No. Hammocks are garbo. Save that trash for you front porch.

I have a hammock I only use it for hikes now though although I have used it for camping a couple of times I prefer having a tent. I just got the 3 man in OP & it is great for 2 people plus a dog I grew up using eureka tents & its crazy how much the equipment has changed in the last 20 years.

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>>2858283
Get it dialed in to deploy from a couple of bags in a minute or two, learn to eyeball proper tree-to-tree distance, sleep like a baby anywhere east of the Mississippi.
It's crap if you like to hang out in camp for a while or prefer to start or end slow, but if you hike til you drop and/or sidesleep it's peak.

>>2858268
Based hammock enjoyer. I just got into bivy camping myself.

>>2858316
says shit like
>"dialed in"
>"to deploy"
seek help.

I assume he talks like that because prior service military that is how people talk from the military & after a while you just get used to it & its part of your vocabulary

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Here are my backpacking dutch ovens they are a game changer for cooking real food on the trail! I will usuall bring frozen meat for the first 2 days in the winter or for the first day in the summer & always bring a can of peaches & some cake mix to have a cobbler. The extra weight is worth it 100x over to have roasted meat & fresh baked breads & dessert

Some easy meals to make in it are to pack a ziplock of bisquik add water slowly into the bag & knead it in with fingers until the dough starts to pull away from the bag. Then you can use it to make whatever you like. Bring cinnamon sugar & butter to make cinnamon rolls, a tube of tomato paste mix with a little water basil & oregano to make a tomato sauce then add cheese & sausage for a pizza cook biscuits & then sausage after the biscuits are done & use the leftover grease & some of the bisquik to make a sausage gravy. A big can of peaches poured into the pan then mix 1/2 of a package of coffee cake mix in add some cinnamon sugar & you get an easy cobbler. If you pre package portions before your trip you can make just about anything in it.

>>2858015
how many days is this for and whats the bag cap

Thats just the basic gear that bag is 48L so I can fit enough for 3 nights with food ontop if I bring real food to cook or I can do 5 days with dehydrated meals w/ a little extra space. There are 2 changes of clothes in the yellow bag & an extra set of merino base layer so enough clothes for a week. I also have a 60L that ai have had since highschool but that was 15 years ago & I never have needed all that space unless I am carrying extra things for family so I got the Osprey I have wanted forever a couple months ago.

I also just got that little camp chair I had never had one before but god damn is it nice to sit on a real chair at the end of a long hike & I dont care too much about my base weight it is sub 15lb so I am happy

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>>2859334
These are 1.5lbs

Yea the one I got is 1.2lb

Can anyone else share pictures of their kit? I havent really seen much of other peoples builds in a long time & would be interested to see what is popular & any cool ideas yall have come up with through experiences! Also if anyone has any ideas on how to make it more appealing to wife & kids my wife comes with me occasionally but just shorter trips that are like 5 miles a day 2 night & my kids are not old enough yet but I want to get them into it soon. Last fall I took my son car camping at an old farm & he enjoyed it when he turns 8 I think I’ll get get him a good day pack & start bringing him on shorter backpacking trips to break him in so hopefully by the time he is 12 we can start section hiking the AT

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Thoughts? Toilet paper?

The petzel bindi headlamp is a really good small headlamp & is cheaper than the one in your picture only downside is it is rechargeable so you cant bring batteries for it but I have taken it on a 5 night trip & still had battery so it will last as long as you dont waste it

As far as TP goes I bring a little bidet that goes on the end of a water bottle not for everyone I guess but I lived in SEA for a a couple years & prefer it plus you dont have to worry about running out

Has anybody used yeti or sea to summit dry bags for kayak camping? Got some yeti dry bags (specifically the panga) as a gift and rounded off my assortment with the big river line. Was mostly wondering about the quality in regards to keeping water out if I capsize and abrasion resistance

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As long as they are thick they should be fine I got a cheap 40L one from walmart to go Canoe camping about 15 years ago & have used it 30-40 times canoe camping over the years & countless times as a bear bag & it is still water proof since you bought it from an expensive brand I am sure it will work fine its not something you can really fuck up but with how cheap & shiftily everything is made who knows I would trust sea to summit over yeti though if not here is a picture of mine if they still sell them this works great & I think it was like $10 maybe $20 but it was cheap

Yea I just looked it up for you search outdoor products dry bag 40L it is $8.99 on amazon & it seems they are still high quality as it has a very high rating & great reviews. Have fun on your trip water trips are great I need to go white water racting again I havent been kayaking in Years!

>>2859344
way too heavy gotta get the 650gram one or you mightaswell have a canvas tent and a packhorse.

>>2858931
Not everyone is a nerdy fag like you are

>>2859378
Trade that shitty ramen for corn flakes or something at least halfway edible. Ramen noodles are the worst food for anyone anywhere

The soup flavoring stuff is probably ok

>>2859634
No.

Ramen is okay for on meal on a trip but no way I would have it more than that. Real food is so much more enjoyable & worth the added weight.

One*

>>2859600
>>2859601
Thanks for the input. It’s going to be class 1 the entire way as it’s my first time ever camping with a kayak. Really looking forward to the new experience and low pressured fishing along the way

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I have a question about lighters for those who have experience with both electric and flint lighters. Which is the most dependable in outdoor (specifically, wet) conditions?

I'm mostly a fishing trip guy myself but usually I don't go out if the weather is too shit so a regular bic flint lighter has always done the trick. Now since I'm the only one who ever goes outside in my family I'm tasked with making little 72 hour emergency kits, so I gotta throw in some fire. Storm matches and ferrorods seem wastefully over the top, or are they?

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>>2858015
Will I survive? Pls rate

Just put your lighter in a freezer bag. I always bring a lighter & a box of matches in a baggy with dryer lent.

Every gear layout has been people using AI to larp with gear they dont have about a hobby they dont do.

>>2859743
A ferro rod is a must for an emergency kit, I think. Even if it's a small one.
There are no conditions that would prevent one from functioning.
A lighter can get fucked up from all sorts of shit.

Sure you can put a ferro rod in the kit but it is something you need practice with & you should put some lent, cotton balls or something else extremely inflammable with it in that case. You should have a lighter in each kit as your first choice though.

I take that back you dont need practice I just went outside & it took under a minute to get a good flame going

>>2859905
Yeah, notice how everything used to make a fire is both lightweight and very important while /out/? Might as well make the most of this natural anomaly and pack different methods. I take matches, lighters, a ferro rod, a few pieces of fatwood pine, some brown paper bags for both fire-making and to hold kindling wood. Even if I take a wood-burning stove I'll also pack a titanium spirit burner and fuel - very useful for getting an easy fire going OR for drying soaked wet wood in minutes. Also good for quicker hot drinks when the stove is low. All of my fire-making kit can be carried in a small bag inside a backpack and hardly weighs anything. As long as I can get the tent up for shelter I will always be able to catch an ember.

Dude going on the kayaking trip can you share your loadout! I am interested in how you are packing for your trip. I only ever went on canoe trips & we would always bring a dutch oven & a cooler & treat it like car camping except without propane lanterns etc. I assume it will be similar to a backpacking loadout but would like to see regardless!

>>2860030
Watch out, you might summon the portage canadian if you mention canoes

>>2860030
I’ll definitely post it here soon. I’m going in a couple months but I’ve wanted to do a test run with it on a local body to see how everything is going to fit

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>>2858015
>what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail?

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Best trail coffee without a whole setup to brew it are these pre packaged pour overs. I am sure you can get them in the US but my wife's sister mails them to us every time she sends anything so I use this brand try them out it is so much better than instant coffee & the packaging is all paper & cardboard so you can just burn your trash at night or of you have a fire in the morning.

"knowledge"

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>>2860815
anyone tried using a moka pot in campfire? is it feasible?

If you have ever used a mocha pot before you would know the answer to that question.

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>>2858015
This is probably my single favorite piece of gear. Weighs almost nothing, takes up slightly more space than a pen, but it can turn a shitty night with damp wood and no/crappy fire into a comfortable time with your friends. It expands to about 24 inches, and it lets you blow pinstream air directly where you need it, even into the direct center of a fire, while being completely safe from heat and smoke. Damp wood? Fuck that, just light your kindling and force air over that bastard until the water boils off and the wood combusts. Then just keep blowing and you have a white-hot coalbase that instantly dries damp wood.

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>titaniuim rice cooker
>lifestraw
>flextail pump

>>2859790
Add a folding saw and a trowel to that.

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you got windposted!

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>>2861808
Considering pic related one, but... price. I had Fiskars folding saw. It was dull after few uses and lost it then anyway. Some outfag is making good fires with it now

Seems like a good enough place to ask.

Anons, what gear do I bring to survive summer camping? I always camp when it's cold. Tent? Sleeping bag? I feel in over my head despite my experience.

>>2861996
bring a rape whistle, you are gonna need it when they get their hands on you.

>>2861998
Are there more niggers in the summer?

>>2859378
>Toilet paper?
For shitting, yon't need toilet paper if you have a high fiber diet. You always just shit and wipe and its always nothing there.
Just take Psyllium husk supplements if you don't have a high fiber diet already.
Toilet paper is nice to have though as a like napkin type thing though.

>>2862012
this is the most indian thing i've ever read in my life.

>>2859633
This. As a tier 1 operator you should always be peak jargonmaxxing your brocode.

>>2861963
dull, lmao what did you cut with it metal

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>>2862041
>Americans can't fathom not having ultra processed cancer shits that require 25 sheets of bog roll
Grim. Just have a high fiber diet. You will benefit from it in the boonies by not having to wipe at all. You do a clean dookie that passes without any mess.
A lot of fags literally use Psyllium husk for easier prep for anal play. They call them "bottom pills".

Now I understand why some people smell like poop even from a distance. And we're sharing a board with them...

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>>2862164
Amerikkkans have a very specific stink from cancer inducing diet. Europeans not so much, but a little. Us Chinese are built superior.

>>2858316
sorry bro, i roll too much in my sleep and hammocks are torture

>>2859378
way too many fucking clothing layers lmao
also where's your first aid?

>>2862157
The opposite of this is correct. You shouldn't be eating any carbs or fiber if you want the smallest and cleanest poops. Meat and eggs only.

>>2858316
Thats a terrible hang which might explain why you don’t find it comfortable to spend time in outside of sleeping. Your suspension should be at a 30° angle, lower the tree huggers and tighten the webbing. Your ridgeline is way too sloppy, giving your hammock a banana shape and making it near impossible to get a flat lay.

Is it a Blackbird? It looks short but that could be bc of the banana shape. If you’re somewhat tall you would find a Blackbird XLC or any orher 11-12 foot hammock more comfortable.

That being said, I doubt thats your pic. Since you seem to be under the impression that hammocks arent good for chilling in camp all day you probably use a Eno, Ticket to the Moon or a tiny hammock from amazon or aliexpress

>>2858283
Have you ever spent a full day (or two) inside a tent in heavy rain? It’s terrible.

A hammock keeps you suspended above the wet ground. Your tents bathtub floor might not protect you if a river forms under it.

With a big tarp you will be able to stand up and move around protected from the rain. You can sit in your hammock while making food instead of being hunched over using your stove in the tents outer.

Condensation is hardly ever a problem with hammocks.

If you hike in the rain you can put up your tarp during breaks in a matter of seconds, vs setting up your tent just to eat lunch for 20 minutes.

Ever tried fucking in a stuffy tent during summer. Thought not. Hammock = sex swing.

Chilling in a hammock is much more comfortable than on a pad. A lot of people also sleep better in hammocks than their own bed.

The only drawback is that its pretty much impossible to got a decent hammock setup as lightweight a a tent setup

>>2863172
>tarp, tarp, tarp, tarp
yeah, hammocks are shit

>>2859378
Pack, shelter, sleep system and chair is 8 kg. All the clothes comes to about 8 kg. Kitchen is half a kilo.

Your baseweight including the clothes you wear comes to at least 16.5 kilos and it’s not even a very functional set up. Alot of it doesn’t make sense and youre even missing a lot of essential gear. It’s pricey tho and the clothes look cool, I’ll give you that, but this is pure larping from someone who have never carried a backpack for more than half a day and does not have the right priorities

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dont have a pic of my current setup but this was me from 2020-2023
i think its aesthetic

>>2859743
PNW hiker here, clipper and bics work well but my best is my zippo with a butane insert. For your needs just get some bics

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>>2859378
>7 pound backpack
>Garmin Fenix, not Tactix
>No Bear Canister
>Steel/Wooden Cutlery
>ThinkPad instead of phone

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Rate my kit. Trying to go as lightweight/ minimalist as possible. Any tips?

>>2858015
You should get a cnoc water bag for that sawyer squeeze. the stock bag has a tendency to pop, the cnoc ones are pretty sturdy and have a big clasp on the top so you can fill it up alot faster

>>2859743
Storm matches, bic lighters, and waterproof firestarters are all relatively cheap and lightweight; id just throw in a bit of each for different situations.

>>2863815
What are you going to do if it rains? You need a jumbo big top tent.

do you guys recommend any micro pump?

>>2859450
Im a canoe camper/portager and I have spent a lot of time and money on finding good drybags.
Seat to summit is the best high-end option, They even have heavy duty and lightweight op[tions.
If you want budget friendly "AquaQuest" on amazon is really good, They are very abrasion resistant but obviously a little heavier.
All of the above will keep water out as long as you havent overfilled them and rolled them up nice and tight.

>>2862526
You’re retarded. This is common knowledge outside of incel forums. Enjoy bowel cancer

>>2860030
Not him but
>packraft (Anfibio nano)
>paddle
>dog leash to attach paddle to boat
>a few tensioners
>some cord to attach the boat
>safety vest
>plastic shoes
>pillow plastic bag for portages
more or less 3kg
>old (not waterproof) backpack, but ziplocs or plastic bags for every kind of hiking gear.

It's for flatwaters, and can improved/lightened.

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>>2858015
debating the xmid2 and xdome 2, socal so i wont even need to use the outer very often so having an option to just ditch it and enjoy the night sky when weather permits is pretty big for me. any suggestions?

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What I take out on trips. My buddy carries a tent for both of us. Why so much water, because its hot and I drink a lot.

How do you guys keep your gear so clean? Mine looks like it was pulled from the trash after the first weekend of use...

>>2858268
Never

>>2864956
Wash it. If it can't be washed get a slightly damp rag and wipe it. If its for cooking and is dishwasher safe put it in the dishwasher, and if not hand wash. Then if you can keep stuff off the ground, or on a tarp/ in a tent. Although some of the gear I have is brand new in the pic. The water bottles are brand new as I needed more water.

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>>2858015
Does anyone have a solution to these outdated clips?
I've identified them as 'Buddy-Lok', a by-gone gear attachment system namely from Cabela's.
The rub is that I have a few nice backpacks with these female attachment points, but I don't have, and can't find, the male counterparts.
I have a 3D printer and can't even find the files.
What am I missing? It's good gear, but I don't want to dump $27 on attachment points on ebay to stitch a few male attachments.

>>2859378
You do know you can field strip a standard roll by pulling out the core and fit a roll in a zip lock sandwich bag right?

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Here's mine

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>>2864680
I bought the xmid 2 pro for a a bargain off a dude, Its a great tent, takes some getting used to in terms of setting it up, also the fabric is very delicate. its perfect for summer, due to great ventilation

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>>2858015
This is my planned load out along with 6 liters of water, it feels very heavy but I can't think of anything to take out

>>2865933
I was gonna take two power banks I guess I can just bring one but it only cuts a few grams

>>2865934
Fuck that I'll take two power banks, realy nothing to cut dam it, I'm only bringing one extra set pants a shirt,Al a flannel three pairs of socks and twonpairs of boxers

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>>2858015
My pack is tolerable untill I add these three items, an extra 1.5 liter bottle of water bringing me to 6 liters of water, my tent, and my sleeping pad, what to do?

>>2865938
Do you really need 6L of water?

>>2865933
>>2865938
You don't need three rolls of toilet paper.
Find a lighter book, maybe a e-book or read on your phone.
Do not wear sandals carrying any weight over a water bottle clipped onto your hippie dreads at burning man.
The metal chair depending on weight is fine, over 1lb remove, under 1lb fine.
Your tent doesn't appear to be a backpacking tent meaning if probably weighs more than 3-5lb .
My buddy carries a 5lb tent but I carry all the food for our fatasses, find a lighter tent or a friend to carry it.
What the fuck is your sleeping bag or sleep system. Get a better one. Find a cheap ass 40F bag, and a foam cell mat and use that. That will save you on that repurposed car camping shit. That black pillow bag seems actually pretty okay, there are better options, but I use a fleece jacket in my sleeping bag stuff sack.
Look I don't know whatever the fuck is in that black opened bag in the picture but if that's your water filter, or just random bullshit, down size to a smaller filter and remove the rando shit.
Yellow compression bag, if its clothes get rid of it. Do this, take one extra pair of socks. Take a set of sleep clothes. Then a set of clothes for your car to change into when your done hiking.
Water depends on climate and how much you drink, also take into account food.
If your somewhere cold 2-4L should do you. If somewhere hot 4-6L should do you. Also consider water sources along the trip which can cut down on weight.

If it isn't mutiuse you probably don't need it.

>>2861169
I agree, as long as you don't buy that specific one for $20 on amazon

Get 6 of them for $2 on temu or similar chink site. Mine even came in the same tube but without the paper label

hey bros so i'm starting to get old, i injured my shoulder/collarbone about 10 years ago and now i'm starting to feel it's wrath. so i'll be out hiking and after about 2 hours of walking with my pack i'll have to bust out the tiger balm and tylenol to get through the trip because my shoulder will hurt so bad.

is it over for me? looking to revise my pack around this and ideally not waste money on super ultralight shit. minimalist is cool with me as long as there's some weight off my shoulder.

any gear suggestions of what I should look for?

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>>2866108
Yes real I need more, I increased it to 7.5 today and it still won't be enough for some sections of my hike, if I go without water cashing, filled up last night at this spring
>>2866171
>three rolls of toilet paper.
Yes I do
>Find a lighter book
That is the light one
>Do not wear sandals
They are good for water crossings, and lounging around in at night after camp is made
>ippie dreads at burning man.
I don't like hippies would never go to burning man
>The metal chair depending on weight is fine, over 1lb remove, under 1lb fine.
I did not bring it in the end
>tent doesn't appear to be a backpacking
It is a back packing tent 1.5kg if I remember
>>2866171
>What the fuck is your sleeping bag or sleep system. Get a better one. F
Sleeping bag is less than a kg, and I'm on a self inflating mat more comfy than foam cell
>>2866171
>That black pillow bag seems actually pretty okay
It's not a pillow in their it is items for use in prayer, I have my extra clothes stuffed into a sac I'm useing as a pillow
>>2866171
>that's your water filter,
It's the Sawyer squeeze
>>2866171
>Then a set of clothes for your car to change into when your done hiking.
I have no car and I plan to be hikeing for a few months, I have one single duplicate of clothing with a few extra socks and underwear
>your somewhere cold 2-4L should do you. If somewhere hot 4-6L should do you. A
I am on the Negev desert very dry and hot here
>>2866074

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>>2866195
>Yes real I need more, I increased it to 7.5 today and it still won't be enough for some sections of my hike,
How many days are you going without water supply?
I carried less than 6L when I did pic rel through the fucking Australian outback.

>>2865926
damn thats nice, only thing left is get dyneema stuff sacks, what sleeping bag you got? trekking poles?

>>2866203
I'm not sure exactly but possibly more than three

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Just dropped 100$ one a pair of meme carbon leki poles from an outlet, i can't wait to regret passing on those alluminium black diamonds who were half the price when the lekis inevitable break as they always do.
I'm such a fucking gay ass consoomer ffs.

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Bump

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Is this good for a weekend camping trip?

>>2866812
You need at least one more gun and some flippers to go with the goggles

>>2866812
I miss that faggot. Crazy times

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Ultralight.

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>>2858015
>what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail
it's probably more unusual in execution than content, but i went hard into the first aid kit skill tree. i treat it as a combined FAK, toiletries, and gear repair kit.

orange pouch has all the "medicinal" stuff and some conveniences
>neosporin
>bandaids
>finger condoms
>leukotape
>gear patches
>super glue
>folding scissors
>NSAID
>anti-shitting pills
>antihistamine
>tick remover
>cotton swabs
>ear plugs
>tweezers
>mini chopshick for packing joints
>full on sonic toothbrush
>not pictured: monoject 412 syringe
>not pictured: toothpaste tabs
>not pictured: dental floss
i'm upgrading my camping oral care in 2026, and am waiting on some high quality consumables to come in. i'm excited for the syringe because it can precisely dispense water, which is a universal benefit outdoors.

sling bag has more cosmetic stuff
>sunscreen in stick form to avoid shitting up my hands
>lighter
>lip balm
>hair tie
>eye drops, which are the GOAT if you make fires
>xylitol gum
there's also a cork ball and tiny hairbrush in my "personal" pocket backpack pocket with waterproof wallet and knife. there's hand sanitizer, gloves, and microfiber towels in the shitting pocket.

another convenience is a cascade wild table, that were made by retards in the PNW out of corrugated plastic.

>>2860815
>>2861153
i gave up on cope coffee on day 1 and think, i drink iced coffee every single day, so i can drink hot tea when camping, and it's a refreshing getaway from the norm

>>2861169
yo that is fucking dope, thanks anon. to that i might also recommend an altoids tin stuffed with cotton balls rubbed in vaseline, as fire starters.

>>2862012
>yon't need toilet paper if you have a high fiber diet
lmao

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anyone here using stuff from klättermusen? what do you have/use?

i recently got their kare backpack, which i am highly impressed by, the quality and the features of the thing are pretty crazy. i really want to use it on a regular basis but as it turns out 30 litres are a bit too big for day trips, so i guess it will be used for multiday hut to hut hikes, which is a shame. i guess they also discontinued it recently for some reason.

my current backpack is 23 liters, military style, that i am looking to replace, i have been using it for 10+ years. so now i am thinking of getting the klättermusen gilling 20L, maybe the 26L but that seems already to close to the 30L of the kare, and i still want to have a use case for the kare. i guess the 26L version also has an internal frame and load lifters, which is something nice to have on backpack, i wish the 20L version had.

pic related is the gilling

as for general gear, just basic mostly uninteresting stuff that i am slowly starting to build. i plan on getting binoculars and a hammock soon for hiking

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>>2867384
Were do you keep your tampons?
>>2866074

>>2867424
different style of camping, i guess. i prefer to explore the lush forests of the new world while maintaining basic 1st world standards of hygiene. i often bring an activity like rock climbing, shooting, or astrophotography. i don't bother walking on bland-ass dirt and rocks where the only excitement is the chance of getting drone striked by a nazi jew because you walked 2 feet over an invisible line that constantly changes.

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>>2867457
You mean you don't bring any tampons? But what do you do if you start to bleed out of your vagina?

>>2867477
Wearing a dress don't make you a woman.
And getting fucked up your ass don't make it a vagina. If you're bleeding into your underwear then you need to tell your boyfriend to use more lube.

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Umbrella. It’s somewhat unconventional, but not entirely. It’s very use case specific, and fags are very quick to point out its failings. But no rain gear is infallible. Everything has trade-offs. When it’s 70° and raining, I’m not putting on a fucking jacket.

Also:
>100% breathable/ventilated
>hands down the best sun protection
>privacy when shitting
>knocks down spiderwebs
And it has the awesome asmr effect that you get when rain is pattering down on your tent, but while you’re hiking. You’re in your own little dry space while the rain falls around you rather than on you. Super comfy.

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>>2866213
Im currently using the Aegismax Windhard down to -6C and Fizan carbon trekking poles, sold the backpacka and bought a mystery ranch radix 47

>>2867661
REI did some weird jew math where i thought i was gonna get $30 + 10% off my purchase and free lifetime membership, but it's an immediately expiring $30 gift card and i get 10% back once per year, and it cost me $30. so i was thinking about buying an umbrella and that would halfway (or less) cover the jewishness of the transaction next year, due to increased inflation because of the jewish war against iran. so basically i got screwed out of $30 and my consolation prize is likely a $10 umbrella.

>>2859790
Solid for a 3 day hike if you add more food and water to the kit. add a compass just in case.

>>2867384
Those collapsible sewing shears are HOT garbage. I would never trust it to cut a fucking thing.

Either buy EMT shears with a sheath or shop shears with a sheath. You may have to make a sheath for both.

>>2859790
Don’t need two light sources (keep the headlamp)
Not sure what the mug is for
Make sure you have a way to buy that toilet paper
Might want some first aid, but contingent upon what you’re doing
Socks?
Add some sleep clothes if you’re hiking all day
Bag liners are a good investment too
Rain gear? Disposable poncho at least
Line your backpack with a trash compactor bag
Water treatment?

>>2866728
That works but once the water starts heating up the water bottle becomes a fire hazard.

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>>2867970
>>2867987
Thanks for good ideas. Pic related is the latest updated version. It's not complete yet, but I'm trying to put the actual things I own in that. As a European weekend warrior, I'm not aiming for hardcore surbibal gear.

A compass is a nice tool, but for me it's easy to find north using the position of the sun and the time, or by observing tree growth. I'm also good at reading the night sky. I know 2 light sources are overkill, but I'm also good at losing things. I've lost my headlamp before, so I would rather keep both.

A stainless steel mug is great for boiling water. I make a small fire, put the mug with river water on 3-4 tent pegs, and let it boil for a few minutes to make the water drinkable. I can also use it to make coffee, tea, or soup, or to store berries. Toilet paper is pretty universal and even one roll of 4-layer TP lasts me a long time. The first-aid kit is a great idea. I remember times when it would have come in handy. I need to figure this out somehow.

Rain gear: none. I've been lucky so far, but I'll get a simple rain poncho just in case. I have a new cheap tent that I haven't had a chance to test in the rain yet. I'm worried that a night rainstorm will make all my stuff in it soaking wet.

>>2868050
please get a rope, some flip flops and a spade to bury your poop

>>2868050
You need to add a paramedic trauma kit incase you get hurt
https://www.amazon.com/Lightning-Extra-Responder-Trauma-Stocked/dp/B08PDQ878B

10 person tent so you have room to spread out
https://www.amazon.com/CORE-Person-Extra-Large-Straight/dp/B07QY3KZPR

Alaska 0 Degree King Size Sleeping Bag - This way you can keep your change of clothes warm with you while you sleep
https://www.amazon.com/Ledge-Alaska-King-size-sleeping/dp/B004KNPXEG

Pallas Cat Stuffed Animal, 45cm/18inch Steppe Cat Plush Cute Plushies - In case you get scared at night and need to hold something
https://www.amazon.com/Cat-45cm-Steppe-Decoration-Christmas/dp/B0BNCYFMDJ

EMERIT Oversized Fully Padded Camping Chair, Heavy Duty 650LB Folding Camping Loveseat - A chair for the average american woman
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0DCN1WDM1

1000FT of paracord
https://www.amazon.com/XBEN-Reflective-Paracord-Parachute-Clothesline/dp/B0D5B9BS5T

Vortex Optics Viper HD Roof Prism Binoculars 12x50 - Cheap bino's to do some casual bird watching

Lightweight packable generator so you can electrocute fish for hunting
https://www.amazon.com/DuoMax-XP13000HXT-000-Watt-Electric-Generator/dp/B0F9H8R14F
https://www.amazon.com/Vortex-Optics-Viper-Prism-Binoculars/dp/B07BR6GLQ5

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>>2858015
Picrel is my pack from 2024. Not much has changed since, except I don't bring the rocketstove clone pot, lightbulb and flipflops.
I also took a hydration pouch, hot glued it into a PET bottle lid and use that to drink from the PET bottles now. Nice little upgrade.
The biggest advantage of my gear: It's cheap. Mostly Aliexpress stuff, so I didn't have to break the bank.

>what are your favorite pieces of gear you have that are unusual or greatly increased your quality of life on the trail?
- Screw-together chopsticks. Cheap, take up little space, and super versatile. I use them a lot.
- I glued a normal hydration pouch mouthpiece and tube to a PET bottle lid so I can drink from the bottles without needing a pouch
- Lastly, good food. Homemade hiking meals are worlds better than the slop people usually eat on trail.
>a little bidet that goes on a water bottle
You can easily 3D print that if you have a printer. Makerworld has the files for free. That's what I did.

im having a hard time making the final decision on cookware: gas or liquid (eg: trangia)
i've have experiences with both in the past

i dont want gas because of the half empty bottles would become a nuisance but it only needs two components to cook, the burner and a bottle to stand on
with a trangia you would need extra stand for the pot, burner and preferably a windshield but you can refill the fuel bottle at any time, plus for me its much easier to get liquid fuel

>>2859047
The only linguistic chance I picked up from my 4 years in is I'm just way more comfortable with graphic homosexual jokes.

>>2868242
I prefer alcohol, specifically a Supercat. It doesn’t require a pot stand. In fact, that style of stove needs the pot to sit directly in top of it. But you don’t need a need a wind screen. And unlike a Trangia top burner, the Supercat is a side burner, so it needs a pot that’s wider than what’s generally available.

Sometimes things should just be fun and not about a spreadsheet counting grams or saving 30 seconds of boil time. A homemade stove is fun to use. It’s not another product that you bought. It’s your stove, that you made.

And while they’re popular online, they’re not popular at all IRL. I’ve never seen anyone else using one, but they’re loved by ultralight hikers who don’t live in California.

There’s also the ambiance of a little alcohol stove. They’re totally silent, which is often overlooked. No need for a rocket engine to boil some water.

>>2867972
good to know, i didn't actually buy it, it was a random item in a drawer in my home. i used to keep a wannabe sewing kit but decided i'm not gonna do real repairs outside, i'm gonna slap a nylon sticker on the problem until it wears out and i have to sew it properly at home.

>>2868050
you need a trowel to dig a shit hole, less shoes, no folding saw, and to not be russian and an idiot. as far as rain, my whole setup is designed to be amphibious. i completely don't care if i get soaked through because the backpack is raw nylon (not waterproof), my clothes are wool (warm when wet), and everything inside the backpack is in silnylon or ultraTX bags (99%+ waterproof). the worst case is wet socks, also wool, that i could swap out or remove

>>2868107
>- Lastly, good food. Homemade hiking meals are worlds better than the slop people usually eat on trail.
based adventurer. this has been my almost entire focus for the last 2 seasons (last year was a no-op but this year is happening). the 2024 season featured frozen/shelf-stable sous vide meals like protein mac n cheese, and various chilis. 2025 was too busy for fun. 2026 adds home dehydrated meals, various store-bought fillers like knor's cheesy rice, vacuum sealed homemade fermented sauerkraut, and store-bought fish pouches. things like hard cheese, sausage, eggs, the closest thing to rugbrod available, sweet potatoes wrapped in foil, etc., have always been staples

>>2868242
FWIW, i have a trangia 27 cook kit with the hard case, and it's more or less perfect. it's not the lightest or the cheapest option, but it is one of the best options. the entire thing is perfectly self-contained and doesn't weigh a ton. if i could change anything, i'd swap out the pan for the nonstick version, and use a 0.3L fuel bottle instead of 0.5L, and *maybe* buy an aftermarket mini pot holder

>>2868425
what an insufferable cunt, lol

>>2868425
>this has been my almost entire focus for the last 2 seasons
Good food is what makes all the difference. Eating a good meal after a long day's hike is bliss.
Only thing I'd suggest is to focus a little less on dehydration and a little more on what you can do with shelf-stable ingredients. Rehydrated food rarely gets to the same level as it was before dehydration, so it makes a big difference.

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>>2868450
i mostly made dehydrated veggie medley, but also some full recipes like turkey chili and spag bol. i've been making black bean and farro salads with raw peppers and onions, that would probably rehydrate well if made with dry beans instead of canned. i agree that it depends on the specific food, and have been experimenting with preparing picrel in ways that don't feel like cat food. one option might be to make sushi by bringing dehydrated sushi rice, fermented carrot shavings, fresh scallions, and nori sheets. dunno exactly, but dehydrated is only one part of a meal plan that includes a variety of methods

>>2868512
>dehydrated sushi rice
Isn't that... just rice?

Anyways, I mostly make shelf stable shit, or stuff that you can take in your backpack unrefrigerated for a few days without worry. Smoked meats, raw eggs, some veggies are all fine, albeit with veggies you have to be careful or the weight adds up fast. My favorite dishes are fallafel and couscous though. The secret with the latter is to make your own mix at home, and add some powdered citric acid to it.
Of course fresh is best. I just wish I lived in a place where the areas where you can do good hiking and the areas where you can do good fishing weren't completely different. A fresh fish on the fire is just special.

>>2868515
no, when you dehydrate grains, you actually have to cook them first:
https://www.backpackingchef.com/dehydrating-rice.html

how do you make or bring falafel while camping? that'd be really good with individually vacuum-sealed packets of tahini. i'd say my vacuum sealer gets more than 10x the use of my dehydrator

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>>2868518
>how do you make or bring falafel while camping?
I'm german and they sell powdered falafel here in many stores, you may be able to find it online where you live (basically spiced dried coarse chickpea powder). You add some water, let it sit to incorporate, then form them with your hands and deep fry them originally. Not quite as good as fresh, but pretty decent.

I tend to add a bunch of dried parsley to mine (they come with far too little) and some freeze dried shallots, as well as some citric acid. Then add water in camp, let it sit, and rather than deep fry, you shallow fry them like patties, squishing them down in a pan. Needs much less oil that way. Carry some wheat wraps and make some sauce and you're golden. For sauce I usually just mix tahini (easy to bring in a small container), lemon juice (or just citric acid plus water again), garlic and some salt. If you have fresh veggies or a salad (or gathered dandelion or similar) you can add that into the wrap to make a true sandwich, if not just eat it as-is.

Picrel is a pic of making them, the formed patties in some oil. Basically think of them as smashed falafel rather than round falafel because for round ones you'd waste so much oil.

>>2858015
Sniper veil, many uses
Zyn can of pink salt
Aztec death whistle
Pliable cutting board, process small game, use a a splint in conjunction with cactus ribs
16oz collapsible sicone piss bottle
Hard candy

>>2868520
The 'chasing women at night' loadout. Just missing the chloroform rag, very based.

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>>2868519
ok thanks, this is really helpful. we have falafel mix here but i never used it, and was thinking to maybe freeze and vacuum seal fresh raw falafel patties, and shallow fry them in oil. but that's more messy than your way.

side note, i just received 2 of these 60 mL dropper bottles for hot sauce and soap. these containers have confounded me from the start. when i first started camping, i carried three 500 mL hard plastic nalgenes for soap, oil, and whiskey.

now i have an 8 oz plastic bag flask, and am looking at 30 or 60 mL droppers of lemon juice and hot sauce and soap, 125 mL pours of olive oil, and/or maybe some wide pot of butter, and electrolyte powder, and maybe bringing back baby powder for hair shampoo, all in the soft plastic nalgenes.

i've found it surprisingly hard to figure out the exact style of bottle i need for liquid and powder items. like it is the most iterated-on class of container in my setup, i am not buying a million dyneema compression sacks, but i am never done buying nalgene tiny plastic bottles.

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I just spent 2.5k buying a whole set up to start backpacking, I've never done any of this before. I'm going full ultralight. I feel like such a retard spending that much but it doesn't matter, I injured my spine 2 years ago and I will eventually end up in a wheelchair and then I plan on killing myself. For now my back is still holding and I want to climb as many mountains as possible,

>>2868551
>I just spent 2.5k buying a whole set up to start backpacking, I've never done any of this before.
Probably not the smartest move, because you'll learn from going out once or twice what works and doesn't work, but maybe you chose well, so wishing you luck on that front.
>I injured my spine 2 years ago and I will eventually end up in a wheelchair and then I plan on killing myself.
I'm legally considered "severely disabled" in my country, due to a very rare disease (think single digit cases in my country, and I have a mutation of it that is unheard of) that makes ~60% of my muscles not work, so I'm very weak. If I can go /out/ so can you. You just have to adjust expectations. In my case, that's using hiking poles (If I fall, it's really hard to get back up for me, so they really help), light gear and shorter distances. When I grew up I've spent a lot of time with other kids in research facilities (like experimental medical stuff, not fiction evil villain lairs) who had worse disabilities. If there's one thing that taught me it's the power of human resilience. I was friends with a kid who was in a wheelchair, and each day he'd try to train his legs by getting up from the chair, taking one or two steps, then inevitably collapsing onto the floor and pulling himself back into the chair again. There's always ways to find a good life, even in horrible circumstances.
>For now my back is still holding and I want to climb as many mountains as possible,
That's a good mindset, don't wait to start living in the future, start living now. You're probably much stronger than me, so climb those mountains and have your fill. I never had the option.

Just don't kill yourself please anon, spend that time until then living life and finding mental resilience and happiness and you won't have to.
Godspeed.

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>>2868531
circling back to the media bottle pantry. i spent some time using my experience, and some AI to rubberduck my assumptions, refining it. i'd previously been lazy about selecting various bottles for things. i also ruled out lots of stuff like worcestershire sauce, tamari, balsamic vinegar, liquid aminos, sesame oil, nutritional yeast, miso, paprika spice mix, the coghlan's spice rack thing, etc., but notably *not* an egg suitcase. here's the final tally with the types of containers and their sizes for a 3-7 day trip. it's ultralight inspired, but i care more about eating well than minimizing weight. it's my template so if you wanna substitute lemon juice with crystals, or furikake with salt + pepper, go for it.

>fat
- olive oil in a 2 oz LDPE dropper, for supplementing meals and frying things
- ghee in a 2 oz PP jar, for crackers / bread + cheese + sausage

>umami
- furikake in a 1 oz HDPE bottle, for general seasoning
- better than bouillon in a 1 oz PP jar, for drinking at a campfire (i'd previously brought cubes)

>acid + heat
- lemon juice in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, for semi-raw fish packets
- tabasco sauce in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, for boiled eggs and everything else

>emulsion
- smooth dijon mustard in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, for cheese
- kewpie in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, it's basically mayo + MSG

>hygiene
- castille soap in a 1 oz LDPE dropper, no i don't care if i "pollute" running water with 2 drops of dr bronner's washing my penis
- baby powder in a 2 oz HDPE bottle, because i have long hair and don't like it greasy (it also has tons of other uses)
- toothpaste tabs in a 1 oz HDPE bottle, with a cotton ball inside

>hydration
- electrolyte powder in a 2 oz HDPE bottle, 4-6 servings at 0.5 oz each

do you bring a multitool for hikes?

>>2863172
>A lot of people also sleep better in hammocks than their own bed.
That is 100% not me which is why i ultimately prefer tents

>>2866812
>9mm

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>>2868107
>Screw-together chopsticks.
This. You can use them for everything.
I posted this setup a while ago. You can fit some spices, tea, coffee and small trash bags into the pot as well. Works great for a weekend or so.

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>>2868674
full pic of my backpacking pantry. feels good to get this all sorted out. i keep it in a freezer bag in the refrigerator as it's technically perishable, but in terms of it loses flavor in 2-3 years

>>2869092
>Screw-together chopsticks
i think you just upgraded my tiny red spatula from walmart and made it 10x more versatile, thanks anon(s)

>>2869310
>outdoors sundick
lol wut

>>2867767
What I do is launder the gift card, buy an expensive item and use the giftcard, then return it the next day. Majority of the purchase goes back to creditcard and the rest goes to a store credit card with no experation.

>>2869385
Holy shit youre like a supervillain

>>2859743
>wick lid
>liquid
lost

>>2868674
>depending on ai for innawoods knowledge
it was nice knowing you anon

>>2859378
how are you niggas so rich?

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>>2869310
>thanks anon(s)
You're welcome, friend.
I like your pantry. Some faggots will probably shit on you for having so much stuff, but I think it's nice to have those different options.

Regarding
>>2868674
>electrolyte powder
If you use it a lot, you might wanna look into a recipe for snake juice (if you're not doing this already).
Tastes like shit, but it's cheap when you buy the ingredients in bulk.

>>2869381
Chinese naming conventions :^)
To be fair: I chose those chopsticks for the name.

>>2866812
kek. The graphing calculators.

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>>2869484
>I like your pantry
thanks. the idea is to have a selection of refrigerated, barely-perishable goods ready to go for 3-7 day trips. really drilling down into these systems, such as determining how to best use $100 worth of tiny nalgenes, is an ongoing process.

>>2867384
this is my medical / toiletries / gear repair kit. this also took a lot of thought to condense and disperse among my gear. it's always changing, e.g., i might want the tick remover on the sling bag's internal keychain. i also use things from IRL, e.g., the hard plastic 5-6 pill cases are from getting gamecube controller parts in the mail, and i always save desiccant packs.

my first camping kit was shitty:
>sleep: random synthetic bag + yoga mat + larpy-ass, small and bulky mylar camo tarp + paracord
>cooking: big-ass aluminum pot that always got sooty and scorched + raw veg + cheese and salami + eggs
>backpack: same old kelty i got for $30, but i since upgraded to modern trekker 65 straps (thanks to an anon here for suggesting it), also everything is individually waterproofed now - 2026 brings arm strap water bottle holders

this slowly evolved for almost 8 years, such as bringing an altoids tin of cotton balls soaked in vaseline, getting a real cook kit, etc. the 2024 eclipse forced me into 3-season camping; that's when i dropped a grand on a warbonnet hammock and tarp. since then i've been getting more intentional about how camping, travel, and IRL interact. i'm debating whether to invest $400 into a 40L "go anywhere" backpack with UltraTX and the best technique. i've been considering this one:
>Zpacks Arc Haul Ultra 40L Backpack
they say to upgrade your backpack last, and i'm at a point gear-wise that miniaturizing my shit and making it airline compliant means i can bring the same toiletries kit to a weekend airbnb or camp-out, a week in europe, a corporate invite, or a bike ride to a local hike or the gym.

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>>2871018
the general idea is that good backpacking gear is so expensive, that a good way to justify the purchase is to use it in daily life as much as possible, e.g., vacuum sealing is good for camping and IRL, toothpaste tabs for camping and airplanes, etc. a more specific example is repurposing the large UltraTX ditty bag from a sm/med/lg pack from camping storage to a waterproof, no-edges rock climbing shoebox shoved into the backpack. performance fabrics patina without degrading, so you want dirty creases following your usage patterns over time, like a brass doorknob that's shiny on the knob and dull on the plate.

I backcountry camp while hunting because I actually provide for my family. Here’s some interesting things I do that you fags may not:


X-mid 1 tent

Use a platypus bladder for piss at night if it’s cold put the warm piss bag down my sleeping bag

Enigma quilt with zenbivy sheet on big Agnes rapide pad using z-packs stick on loops to hook the quilt to the zenbivy

Instead of separate titanium pot I use a vargo bot. I carry it all day as a Nalgene, then use it to boil water for dinner and have some left over for hot cider. Saves me about 9oz from carrying an extra pot and nalgene. I can also soak food in it, make ramen for lunch, or beef broth, it’s based

my pack for a 50 mile ruck over 5 days with two other people. how fucked am I?
Not pictured is my giant fuckass backpack and my camera.
The solar panel is some chinese flexsolar 15w panel I'm testing for fun

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>>2871049
forgot the photo like a retard.

>sunDICK
Lol

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Cuben fiber ultralight gear, made in USA no chinkslop

>>2858316
How do you have privacy and wipe yourself down and shit, and you know what they say, sex outdoors is intents. My tent is a miniature apartment out there

>>2858931
the details seem to matter disproportionately with hammocks. being able to scoop your tarp into a mesh bag, with all lines and hardware attached, is pretty cool. now it's coming for the hammock and quilts themselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEka3yxxBek

>>2871078
find a tree and don't be fat. i do want to start bringing a cheap tyvek ground mat to fold up and keep in a freezer bag, because keeping stuff around and putting on shoes is a downside to hammock camping.

>>2871018
i decided to buy the 60L version of this backpack and not buy any accessories, though i probably want the airplane bag because it converts the whole thing into a single item with a handle that can be shoved into an overhead bin, trunk, etc. without anything catching. the volume difference comes from the max fill depth, not the frame dimensions.

>>2871078
>privacy
It’s very limited, but not totally non-existent. Tarps can be pretty low, and usually are specifically for privacy. The sides are open though.
>room for things
More than a tent. Just stand up.
>fucking
Yeah, it’s basically a sex swing. It’s better than a bed at home. But there’s no privacy, and actually sleeping two in a hammock is a terrible idea.

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