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Does anyone actually hike with these or are they just fashion items for UL faggots and women? They look extremely tiny and impractical to me
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>>2859124
I'd prefer the stabilizing affect of shoulder straps, even though it means your back gets sweaty. Those look kinda miserable for anything more than say, a rain shell, a small water bottle and some snacks maybe a longsleeve base layer. Probably good for the trail running crowd and dog walkers though.
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>>2859124
>They look extremely tiny and impractical to me
How much do you need for a day hike, bro?
That can obviously fit a litre of water, a couple of muesli bars and light jacket or raincoat, which is already more than I tend to take with me if I'm not sleeping out.
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>>2859186
easy of access, ok, fair enough, but if you are carrying anything heavier, there is a good chance that the lumbar pack will move around a lot, no? backpacks seems more stable in general.
don't get me wrong, they do look sorta nice, but at the end of the day, you will be much happier with something that works well, rather than something that looks cool.
if you want ease of access, you also have the option of chest rigs. posting because i am actually considering getting something like this in the future. might be good to have smaller items, like phones and cameras and bear spray and maps and stuff always on hand.
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>>2859261
>if you are carrying anything heavier,
NTA
Just how much weight are you carrying for a day hike (i.e. a few hours walking)?
My cheap chinky lumbar packs can do 2-3kg just fine, they don't have the space for an hatchet, or a silky bigboy.
But I can take 2x 1L of water, a large knife (TOPS Brakimo, BK2, but smaller knives are nicer to carry, of course) and a 20cm folding saw.
If you're going to take just a small knife, binos or something similar and a bottle of water, lumbar packs are great. And many of the larger lumbar packs have removable shoulder straps.
And I never had much trouble with it moving, I mean, it moves of course but never had problems with it rotating, if you get what I mean.
But if you actually need to take bulky or heavy shit, sure, grab a 25-35L backpack set the straps correctly and it's awesome. It's hard to argue against the number of points of contact of a backpack: shoulder straps, waist belt, sternum strap.
If you need ventilation, grab a pack with a trampoline suspension system (i.e. mesh and arched stays), sucks for internal organization as you have to contend with a full pack curve, but it's nice for your back sweating.
t. guy in southern europe who sweats like a horse.
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>>2859124
I have this. It's good for a day hike or cycling. I like to use it with the shoulder straps. My back won't get sweaty but where the hip part is it will so you just move the sweaty part elsewhere.
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>>2859274
>I can take 2x 1L of water, a large knife (TOPS Brakimo, BK2, but smaller knives are nicer to carry, of course) and a 20cm folding saw.
kek i imagine it's gonna look so puffy and silly with all that shit crammed in
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>>2859264
understandable, i was looking into chest rigs and i do dislike the military look. at least there are some that are targeted more towards fishers. also some brands do offer modular systems that have a very different aesthetic e.g. klättermusen than your classical pals/molle.
>>2859274
alright, sounds good! might be worth looking into, eventually
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>>2859278
>kek i imagine it's gonna look so puffy and silly with all that shit crammed in
You know the lumbar packs usually have side pouches for water bottles, right?
Chinky chink aliexpress lumbar pack on pic.
1x 1L on the side and I put 1x 0.8L inside because it was pretty empty with only a 25cm folding saw and a TOPS Brakimo clone.
>>2859279
Even with straps it's still better for a sweaty back.
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>>2859444
You get used to it. I wore one for seismic work, which is to say 15-hour days walking through the bush. We had water refills 2 or 3 times per day, so I carried about 3l of water, raingear, bug dope, sunglasses, gloves, and lunch. I tried both and found a 10l fannypack better than a backpack mostly because of freedom of movement and less entanglements when hauling equipment.
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>>2859124
i sweat more than most people. if I can avoid it I won't carry anything on my back. for short day hikes and get by with my red paw flex fanny pack that pretty much just carries a 500ml water bottle and a few bits and bobs. I can stuff an extra 500ml hydrapak inside the bag for longer hikes. honestly, it's extremely comfortable and I forget I'm even carrying anything.
If I need moar water and supplies I carry my 20L backpack and put two 1.5L bottles in it. I have considered a 10L hip pack, preferably one with suspenders. but my current setup does everything I need.
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>>2860285
fanny/lumbar/fupa/whatever pack sounds nice, might have to try it
big reason I got into bikepacking was so i could haul gear without carrying anything on my back, and I've learned I prefer to cycle over walking. but still hike enough that I need something convenient for my snacks & water & extra layers
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>>2859124
I bought one. It's more like a massive fanny pack.
What can I say, it makes me look like a fanny. I don't recommend them unless you look like the girl in that pic, or really dont give a fuck how you look at all.
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>>2859124
i use a condor h harness for walks that last less than 2 days. it's good because you can access stuff easily without taking it off. it has shoulder straps so it's probably better than whatever that woman is wearing. i usually carry 2 - 3 litres of water, a folding shovel, binoculars, and some sleeping stuff. everything is black