>>527714614
it's called "workfare", trump implemented a limited form attached to EBT and SNAP and people are seething. Sorry, not people, niggers,

>>527714614
but as *a* strategic imperative to economic resilience.

>>527714743
The concept I propose involves institutionalized, lifelong guaranteed employment for citizens, confined to projects that directly improve national infrastructure, rather than transitory welfare arrangements.

>>527715312
>guaranteed
Does this mean I can't be fired if I don't do the job?
If so then I think we can all see the problem.
If not then it just means outsourcing HR to federal bureaucrats, and I daresay we can again all see the problem.

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>>527715540
reassignment to a lower-tier role, such as roadside litter pickup. still can't cut it? we line you up in front of a firing squad

>>527715969
The latter, then.
Do you trust those bureaucrats?

>>527716183
I place no greater trust in these private corporations, that tolerate a massive underclass of tens of millions trapped in homelessness and exploitative, unfullfiling, underpaid work.

>>527716753
You don't have to trust private individuals; they aren't taking your money unless you give it to them.
On the other hand you do need to pay taxes either directly or through inflation, and unlike private ventures public ones can't go bankrupt.

>>527717021
You were the one who injected "trust" into the conversation. You've taken what was a fairly direct conversation and made it unnecessarily abstract.

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>fdr

you mean king rat

>lol

>https://youtu.be/_ABubKOXMWI

>>527714614
ICE is a job program.

>>527717729
But I love big booty Latinas

>>527717444
Let's lay it out like this:
>Private company seeks investors for project
>You as a potential investor decide if you can trust them
>If you do then maybe you invest and if not then you don't
Contrast that with:
>As a taxpayer you are invested in the federal government, you don't get to decide
>You might however influence what laws they make
>You decide if they can be trusted with HR responsibilities for project
>If you do trust then you might vote to move ahead with project
>If you don't then vote against

So do you trust them?

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>>527717021
How fucking stupid do you have to be to believe this?

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>>527717931
Thank you for clearing that up. These factors illustrate why a centralized authority figure of sound judgment and shrewdness would benefit America.

>>527717931
Alright, fine, I’ll go along. Suppose I do trust them. What happens next, wise oracle?

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>>527714614
Socialism just doesn't work. However there should be a socialist sector of economy. Not the modern obscene welfare state but more like soviet austerity. If someone wants free money or a flat they should do some government job even if it means digging a hole and filling it. And unions there should be illegal, how the fuck are there public sector unions

>>527715312
>confined to projects that directly improve national infrastructure
It sounds good but it usually means corrupt scam

>>527714743
Every government shutdown Republicans and Democrats are fighting over who is more pro-gibz

>>527720027
>>527720027
The United States already operates within a mixed economy between private enterprise and socialist elements (social security, unemployment benefits, subsidized housing, the VA being a form of socialized medicine, other community welfare, fire departments)..

My point ultimately is that private markets are prone to boom-bust cycles, so wouldn't it make more sense for the state to step in and give jobs to everyone who's out of work, instead of relying on the private sector or welfare systems?

>>527721138
Who gives a fuck about some academic nonsense like boom bust cycles. There's an enormous obscene redistribution system, it's a moral question, not some "boom bust cycles" autistic spreadsheet optimisation one

>>527721721
>>I place no greater trust in these private corporations, that tolerate a massive underclass of tens of millions trapped in homelessness and exploitative, unfullfiling, underpaid work.

A moral question, you say? See my earlier comment above.

>>527722048
> people deserve more
> gib gib gib
> on no, work, I'm being exploooited
Socialism is not an ideology, not even an idea, it's an instinct to consume

>>527722262
Private enterprise/welfare is the true source of your exploitation and national decay within the capitalist framework.

Now I ask you, how is it exploitation when the government provides a buffer for people and uses it to enhance the country's infrastructure at the same time?

>>527714614
>hay guys satanic jews (rothschilds) run this federal reserve shitshow, why can't we keep playing the game?
Christopher wray (VIP alert from zerofox_ should fucking kill himself.

>>527722756
Because government overpays for unnecessary infrastructure for political patronage and corruption reasons

>>527720027
>Socialism just doesn't work
tired long argument about sweeping isms that don't really exist in reality
>However there should be a socialist sector of economy
there already is in virtually every government
>the modern obscene welfare state
there isn't an obscene welfare state in the usa
>but more like soviet austerity
raw socialism doesn't work so why would communism
>If someone wants free money or a flat they should do some government job even if it means digging a hole and filling it
you do not necessarily deserve a flat for digging a whole in a world where a machine can do that for $10 or whatever
>And unions there should be illegal
yep you're fucking retarded.

South americans love lazy fare more than anything and you're run by violent criminals because of it

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>>527722984
Ah, It's high time you schizo fucks showed up. Now sit your ass down and grab a seat.

>>527723213
Give examples, wise oracle.

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>>527714614
>a federal jobs guarantee

>>527724087
California high speed rail project

>>527714614
Fuck FDR

>>527714614
> FDR system
What the leftist won't tell you about it was that it required a rigid IQ caste system and much stricter closed borders than Trump has ever been able to achieve

>>527723342
> Socialism just doesn't work
>tired long argument about sweeping isms that don't really exist in reality
Socialism and capitalism do actually exist in real world. They don't exist as described in Econ 101 but nothing does.

>However there should be a socialist sector of economy
>there already is in virtually every government
There is redistribution section, not really a production one.

>the modern obscene welfare state
>there isn't an obscene welfare state in the usa
Lol, there is

>but more like soviet austerity
> raw socialism doesn't work so why would communism
It's just to get 90IQ people something to do, not to create value.

>If someone wants free money or a flat they should do some government job even if it means digging a hole and filling it
> you do not necessarily deserve a flat for digging a whole in a world where a machine can do that for $10 or whatever
Point is not to spoil people with gibs

>And unions there should be illegal
yep you're fucking retarded.
You are clueless

> South americans love lazy fare more than anything and you're run by violent criminals because of it
Amerimutt IQ

>>527724685
FDR started federal government race mixing project with desegregation of arms industry

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>>527714614
because that doesnt make gdp line go up fast enough also it might lead to terrible horrible things like nice roads, nuclear energy, and a functioning society. very antisemitic. in the words of The Great Orange Golem: "NOT GOOD!"

>>527724265
They set it up to fail deliberately, so later they could wag their finger and announce, “See? Private investment is the only thing that works in practice".. They are the investment class saboteurs, and public perception is everything to them.

There's no way they'd ever let California of all states build a cutting-edge high-speed rail system that makes the rest of the country look bad by comparison. If it's to be done, it will be done by their corrupt hands alone.

>>527714614
Our taxes already pay for that which is perpetually embezzled

>>527725587
Right, comrade, socialism is perfect, it's just traitors and saboteurs

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>>527714614
>Tell me why the United States can't have a federal jobs guarantee that would borrow the architecture of "New Deal Job Program" instituted under FDR's leadership?

Because our government is corrupt, incompetent and we have $38 TRILLION in debt. We are not China, we can't just build things, everything our government does lines the pocket of some corrupt contractor and wastes billions on red tape, corruption and just general incompetence.

Government is not going to fix our problems. We need much less of it not more of it. Get rid of the red tape and regulator bureaucracy that keep us from building things, eliminate taxes on the working class, cut government spending and raise taxes on the upper classes to balance the budget.

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>>527723466
only jews use that schizo word.
One day I may be the one to send you to God with my own hands.
fuck you, jew.

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>>527725728
Alright, my brain’s fried at this stage. I’m only stirring the pot for entertainment, and devil’s-advocating for the lulz. I almost succeeded in worming my way out of that one lul

>>527725806

I think you are mostly right.

>>527725929
I'm a pantheist

>>527725418
All your responses are just brain dead im so glad people like you who decide to have schizo opinions and oppose anything that benefits yourserlf live in shit hole countries in stead of here .

>>527727519
Stay in your decaying antisocial west, faggot

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>>527715312
>please see "Soviet Union" and "The National Socialist German Workers Party" for review.

>>527727519
>tired long argument about sweeping isms that don't really exist in reality

Yeah, you nailed it. That word gets thrown around way too freely, with every person carrying their own unique version of it in their head, which only ever confuses things further.

>>527725806
The debt is not the problem you people think it is. Debt for nation states that issue their own money is not the same as debt for a company or a household.

>>527714614
>Tell me why the United States can't have a federal jobs guarantee
they did, they just hired niggers.

>>527727861
If they started issuing currency to pay for the debt then the currency would hyperinflate.

>>527728548
In theory they can fight hyperinflation by raising taxes but then the economy goes to shit either way

>>527714614
Biden did this with his massive once in a generation multi trillion dollar infrastructure package. Remember?

>>527728776
I remember "giving money to single mothers is infrastructure" libshit posting

>>527714743
except that doesn't guarantee you a job at all, it's just a scheme to cut people from assistance or get them to take any dogshit slave driving job they can get

he should've built the wall

because in two seconds some nagger is gonna have to pick cotton