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>>527722131
>What is the most energy efficient refrigerator I can get?
Put a frigid cunt in a box.

>>527722131
size a solar generator for it and it wont matter

>>527723270
The inverter and batteries wont last as long as a good refrigerator.

>>527723423
they dont make good refrigerators anymore. new batteries are good for 10ish years, and by then new batteries will be better and cheaper.

>>527723578
I am thinking about buying a used fridge that is more energy efficient than the old one I have now.

Apparently BLDC compressors are much more efficient but the inverter electronics on LG and Samsung are crapping out at like 20% a year.

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>>527723578
mech batteries>chem batteries
i do not give a fuck about bullshit gyroscope precession losses because of earth movement/orbit you fucking beatnics. stones last longer than life.

>>527724150
inb4 by def beatnics do not want to buy batteries.

>>527723841
it isnt just the electronics either that are failing. you can make a hand crank ice maker pretty easy. could hook it up to a bike, or a dog, or a windmill if solar is too unreliable. make some sawdust insulation, or use an abandon mineshaft even. one thing is for sure-modern fridge is completely unreliable construction by comparison to everything. probably your best bet is smuggle in some real gas for the compressor from mexico and always top up with a vampire tap.

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I repaired a newer LG washing machine I got for free. It was way more efficient that my 30 years old washer. I think it used something like 3 cents of electricity to wash a load of clothes.

>>527724150
> 4-hour discharge duration
we are talking about like a $600 project counting the fridge here

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>>527723578
>they dont make good refrigerators anymore.
Other than the Korean brands it seems like all the parts come from China even the ones built here.

>>527722131
Moving to Alaska should do the trick.

>>527725504
One of the highest electric cost states in the US.

I could probably afford to downsize since I have food that has probably been in the freezer for a year.

>>527722131
>What is the most energy efficient refrigerator I can get?
They're literally all the same. Assuming the insulation hasn't catastrophically failed and the door seal is remotely intact there is no functional energy use difference between the most elaborate retarded modern multi-cycle VFD compressor driven smart unit manufactured this week and the shit your great great grandma threw into her garage as soon as great great grandpa bought her a new one that matched her countertops. The only difference is the new ones have controlboards that manage all the VFD functionality and they WILL crack their non-lead solder joints and fail after a couple years, by which time they will have stopped carrying replacement boards 2 years ago and you'll be shit out of luck and be expected to just buy a new unit.

>>527728228
>The only difference is the new ones have controlboards
That is why I am looking at the basic bitch Frigidaire that still uses temperature knobs and a defrost timer.

>>527728228
>there is no functional energy use difference
There is, up to twice as much energy for an old unmaintained refrigerator.
But, that doesn't matter, because fixing it, or paying for a new one, cancels all the electricity bill benefits.
Assume the market is somewhat intelligent enough to arbitrage common expectations. Old plus repair = new and efficient.

Redpill me on having an empty refrigerator vs a full one and thermal mass.

>>527729373
>Redpill me on having an empty refrigerator vs a full one and thermal mass.
Nothing matters if you don't open the door.

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>>527729447
The outside temperature matters.

>>527724150
>Amber Kinetics is a leading designer of flywheel technology focused the energy storage needs of the modern grid.
Saar please

>>527729543
>The outside temperature matters.
How does that matter if the fridge is full or empty?

>>527728842
>There is, up to twice as much energy for an old unmaintained refrigerator.
That's just not true. Like I said, barring catastrophic insulation failure or the seal turning to dust energy is energy. X amount of joules of heat energy seeps into the interior of the unit and needs to be removed through the refrigeration cycle by running the compressor for Y duration per hour/day. There is basically no difference in compressor energy consumption per unit energy extracted in heat today vs a century ago. Remember a fridge or freezer is just an insulated cooler that has an evap coil on the inside. The primary contributor to how good one works is the design of the cooler portion, not the way the compressor is programmed to run. And as far as the housing design is concerned, if anything modern implementations are shittier today that the mid and even early 20th century designs at insulating from the surrounding heat. Anyway the reason all the compressors are VFD now is to minimize current inrush spikes, not for any other reason even though mfgs will often lie and claim there are efficiency gains to be had.

I always wondered why, in places where it's freezing cold in the winter, you'd heat your home and then cool down a smaller space inside. Why not simply heat and live in the refrigerator in the winter and simply leave all your groceries out on the countertop where they are handy?

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>>527729726
Half dozen of one six of the other.

>>527729969
For some reason the Canadian energy rating cards like our energy star notices are always lower for the same fridge.

>>527729969
It’s best if you don’t ask those kinds of questions

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>>527729846
>There is basically no difference in compressor energy consumption per unit energy extracted in heat today vs a century ago

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>>527722131
Wrap the non-radiating surfaces with blankets or other insulation, it won't need to run nearly as often.
Better yet live in the North and keep it in a garage that's already cool if not freezing.