>>527725492
shrinkflation?

>>527725492
In their defense, my wood isn't what it used to be either.

>>527725545
Bingo.

>>527725545
No, Enyidification.

>>527725492
"they" are jews
jews always steal

>>527725492
All the good old growths were cut down.

>>527725492
We talking about 2x4's here?

>>527725566
My dick hasn't worked since I was 22

>>527725492
Dude, everything has been getting smaller. Back around 30 years ago people were huge like 2-3x the size they are now.

And that's not all, I used to have this hot wheels car that was huge too. It would barely fit in my hand. Nowadays I could probably hold half a dozen hotwheels cars in my hand.

This isn't natural. E V E R Y T H I N G is shrinking...

They figured out what the average maximum load for each breed of lumber is and the 1.5 inch shitty fir I guess is suitable for shingled roofs.

>>527725804
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>>527725492
its capitalism you fucking retarded faggots when will you learn

>>527725639
Yeah. So go buy a 2x4 from Home Shlomo and measure it.

It ain't 2" by 4"!!!!

Oooooohhhhhhhh!!!!

No shit, OP.
We've been dealing w/ this shit since you were a glimmer in your absent father's eye.

>>527725492
yeah but the fertilizers they use to grow modern trees make them a lot stronger than the natural trees of the past centuries so it doesn't matter much.

>>527725862
easily the gayest post on /pol/ and that's counting the spic fuentes thread that's most likely up right now

>>527725862
This. None of these issues came up in the USSR.

Hardwoods take longer to grow.

>>527725804
>This isn't natural. E V E R Y T H I N G is shrinking...
Like your IQ.

>>527725566

>>527725862
>its capitalism you fucking retarded faggots when will you learn
And capitalism is a jewish construct.
Literally does not exist.
Wake up.

>>527725862
saaaaaaaar

>>527725862
Yeah, but not really.
Simpson strong tie brackets can be used for just about every application. Caveman tier construction with big wood isn't necessary to have a home withstand a wind storm anymore.

>>527725945
Chernobyl was literally caused by sub-par materials, manufacturing and staffing.

>>527725945
>None of these issues came up in the USSR
Accurate.
None of these products were available for comparison.

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>>527725492
you people are retards
the tr;dr is that the new stuff is prepped for use before you and the '1914' piece wasn't prepped at all and probably came from a building that collapse when the lkumber twisted as it dried

>>527725804
Have you considered that you live on the event horizon of a black hole?

>>527726167
>aislop
good morning saar

>>527725492
2x4 was formerly the pre-finished dimensions.
It was poorly standardized what the final actual size was until relatively recently with better cutting/finishing practices and now we've settled on 1.5x3.5.

>>527726206
This could explain it. I thought the shrinking had stopped about 15 years ago but lately even my pants from just a couple years ago don't fit. Not much else has shrunk since then though but bags of chips and so called footlong subs.

>>527726167
Who cares
All new homes should be 3d printed
That ICON company is amazing.
wood is shit.

>>527725492
>>527725604
>people keep buying the cheapest option no matter what
>manufacturers compete to make wood as cheap as possible because that's what people actually want to buy
>repeat for 100 years
OMG DA JOOZ STOLE MY TREE RINGS IM GOING INSANE!!!!!

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>>527725492
perfect for my house

>>527725862
wrong

kikes, niggers, spics, jeets and women are responsible for all the problems we have today

>>527725862
Stop White erasure

>>527725804
Same thing happened to me: we grew up. I miss being a kid sometimes though. I remember my N64 seemed massive, like a pizza box is to an adult, but I found one recently at a garage sale and they're tiny. My 15" CRT seemed so big back then but I couldn't imagine still watching something on a screen that small.

>>527725492
you should buy your woods off of amish. simpel as.

>>527725545
It's not the overall size, bozo, just get a 4x6 if that were the case, it's the tree rings and the hardness of the wood

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>>527726591
>the muttshack

>>527726591
No redundancy

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>>527726068
Fucking retard alert.

It was a state of the art reactor and the reason it failed wasn't because of an unknown flaw. It was operated poorly due to kikes in the soviet union's government putting pressure on the scientists and engineers to misuse the reactor.

>>527725604
Jew by 4?

>>527727304
>It was a state of the art reactor
No it wasn't, the fuck?
>and the reason it failed wasn't because of an unknown flaw
yeah obviously, dipshit

>>527726591
Kek

>>527725492
>call it "two-by-four"
>don't specify any unit of measurement
What did you think was going to happen?

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>>527726591
muttshack?
or Goyhut?

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>>527725492
The houses that have actual 2x4's also have picrel.

>>527725959
The joke is that he was a kid and now he's an adult.

Oh great, another thread by people who think they know economics because they have a wallet

>>527725591
kek

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Can you guys explain to me why you're allergic to bricks?

My house is from 1923. It got a second floor in 1974. Total Area about 220m^2 or 2,368 square feet

>No termites
>No cockroaches
>No Mold
>Survived 2 x 5.7 Magnitude Earthquakes and a few smaller ones
>Survived 1 flood
>Survived WW2, Survived Yugoslav wars.
>1992 Artillery Shell landed in the backyard broke all the windows made a small hole on a wall.
>1999 US Airplanes broke windows by going supersonic

Owned by my grandmother, passed to my mother, passed to me.

So far I only had to change the roof expected lifespan 25-30 years.
Changed the Windows to Triple pane PVC
Added some insulation in the form of styrofoam.
Replaced the old style gas furnace with a new fancy condensing gas boiler
Replace the old style blocky ACs with modern inverter units.
Thinking about buying Solar pannels because they're so cheap these days and they'll last as long as my roof.
Maybe also get a heatpump system, but I don't think it will work since I'd have to buy new wood flooring to get low temperature floor heating for it.

I honest to god don't get American housing. You build for "cheap" that costs x10 what it costs in Europe, to have it rot in 25 years and

>>527725732
Sounds like a you problem. Mine works better now than it ever did and I'm 44.

>>527725492
What, new wood not good enough for you? Would you rather have no wood? It's basic math retard, if you want 200 year old wood, you get 1/20th the amount you would get 10 year old wood. Younger wood is less durable, but it isn't nearly proportional.

>>527727034
Realizing you played halo 2 coop on a 10" TV.....bruh.


Why are we getting so big?

>>527725492
How did they get away with inventing stronger timber pressure treatments?
Just wait because the new contender Inventwood, supposedly has a strength-to-weight ratio ten times that of steel, so they will get even smaller.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InventWood

>>527725934
>I compared a fresh log to a log hundreds of years old and the fresh log appear strong!

>>527729688
>going supersonic.

There is a plan to have US jets soon go supersonic 8 times per day, every day, flying very low, over your house.

Because you are white. Fuck you.
What do you think about that.

Soon to be implemented against your country.
En route to iran.
And they WILL fly LOW and SUPERSONIC over YOUR house.
8 times PER DAY.

Possibly more when they hypersonic cruise missiles are used.

How does that make you feel, white person?

>>527725804
lol at all the retards who can’t get the joke, nice one

>>527725492
They were getting paid per unit for a time and some lumber Jews quickly figured out they can squeeze a couple shekels more out of each truckload by planing the edges like coinage and the practice stuck

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>>527725862
ItS cApiTaLisM. We had cApiTaLisM for three centuries and something changed, which just happened to be when you retards showed up and started coin clipping everything you could find. Get fucked

>>527730227
thank you.

>>527725804
All the shrinking slows and stops around age 22 though

>>527728148
Based and beat me to it

>>527728148
Although banker man is clearly a Jew himself

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>>527726167
>barndominiums
holy fuck

>>527731041
>three centuries and something changed
Accurate.
Not sure if it's the jews and their influence though.
I think we have changed.
Not for the better of course.

>>527725492
>on nooo, they grow trees specifically for construction and they don't let them grow for 100 years before cutting down
I hate the fact that so many retards are White.

>>527729868
It didn’t really sound like he was blaming anyone for his flaccid cock but good to know you still get boners I guess

>>527729688
Built in circuit breaker of our market. The market wouldn't survive if it provided a solution .

>>527726167
>flag
>ai slop
>arrogantly wrong
Shut up, raj

>>527729688
seppo's just want to be different. I am sure there are probably reason why certain building materials got used and still do. I dunno how to make a Tornado proof building

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>>527725945
>USSR
Yeah, they were known for their fine construction standards

>>527725862
Capitalism is a jewish system so is communism end game is unironically the same.

Actually all of these pieces are borderline defective except for the 1960s one because they contain the pith and will split when they dry

>>527725862
What economic system doesnt use wood? Sounds pretty gay and jewish, like you.

>>527726591
>every muttshack comes with a free saddam hussei
I'm envious to be desu.

>>527728509
>hut
Pen. Goypen. Or goysty.

Did cuckshack anon finish his project?

I have to pee.

>>527725492
This picture makes me think of shawarma evolution

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>>527725492
How do they get away with quarter sawn boards? Its a method of milling that produces more board feet

>>527725566
/thread

>>527729688
what is the reason why houses in balkan always look unfinished? From what I've gathered there is some kind of tax benefit, like during soviet times you made the facade of your house look like shyt so the kommissar didn't know you were amassing any kind of wealth

>>527725492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEOnIpO7Xgw

>>527729868
He's canadian.

>>527725492
if you need more strength just add another board. simples.

>>527725862
Who runs this "capitalism"?

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>>527733449
they do this in philippines a lot too. something to do with not needing to pay property tax on unfinished buildings.

>>527725862
Oy veyyyyy dude shut the fuck up you retarded kike faggot. Nobody believes you.

>>527732350
>Yeah, they were known for their fine construction standards

typical fat lardass, waddling in to show us all how stupid he really is

>>527725945
Because everyone was on a ten year waiting list for saws

>>527725492
they struggle to make good violins from modern wood. the best violins are being made from wood found at the bottom of lakes, so it is better to have been stored in cold water for 100 years than to be freshly grown tree if you are in the violin business.
the issue is that commercial forests are grown too dense so the nutrients are spread over too many trees resulting in malnourished timber. essentially the same as Western goyslop diet. i live nest to forests and in the commercial forest the trees are around 2metres apart, planted in rows while the natural grown forest is less than half as dense and scattered.

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>>527726167
The Tudors did OK.

>>527727304
>wasn't because of an unknown flaw
It was badly operated but the literal thing which made it explode was the cobalt tips on the control rods lowered when they hit the AZ-5 emergency button. It was a design flaw which had been politically censored from technical specifications and was unknown to operators which the government then tried to cover up in the enquiry. The main guy investigating ruined his career exposing it. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>527734316
Flips aren't that smart. They are just a bunch of lazy retards who eat literal garbage. Look up pak pak. They dig through the garbage of fast food restaurants and recook the rotten leftovers in gutter oil

>wooden mutt houses
lol lmao even

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150mm total exterior wall depth XD XD

>>527729688
>Can you guys explain to me why you're allergic to bricks?
>My house is from 1923. It got a second floor in 1974. Total Area about 220m^2 or 2,368 square feet
>>No termites
>>No cockroaches
>>No Mold
>>Survived 2 x 5.7 Magnitude Earthquakes and a few smaller ones
>>Survived 1 flood
>>Survived WW2, Survived Yugoslav wars.
>>1992 Artillery Shell landed in the backyard broke all the windows made a small hole on a wall.
>>1999 US Airplanes broke windows by going supersonic

Western housing codes are honestly a complete joke, as a whole. Even when you follow them to a 'T', it doesn't really matter at the end of the day because houses made by 2x4 frames, insulation and drywall are shit in the long run. They aren't built to last at all.I guess Jews pushed the Western world in this direction so they can blow your house down at their convince. Also, it really decreases your over all insurance claims in the long run.

>>527733449
Depends.

There 3 reasons.

One you build a house progressively as you get money, the outer facade is the last thing to get built. If you hit hard times, it just stays that way and priorities shift.
Two is making it an unfinished house for law reasons.
Three you're a nigger gypsie and you like it that way.

It's not a big thing here anymore at least. But you will find plenty of number 3s.

>>527730866
I mean they had to go super sonic before entering Serbian Space in 1999 when they bombed them, and let's just say my windows weren't the best after they got trashed in 1992 shell attack.

>>527725934
Norwegians are not this dumb.

>>527725732
>My dick hasn't worked since I was 22

Jewish dentists in Canada love to give men circumcisions while they are under anesthesia. You might want to look into that. I am not joking, by the way. It is a real thing that happens, and I am glad to use 4chan as my platform to inform people of this. This is also just another reason for Alberta to defect from Canada.

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always wondered why americans have those cringe floor to ceiling preformed bath and shower units

turns out they tile straight onto drywall necessitating a total refurb of walls, insulation and in bad cases framing.

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>>527729688
Plenty of houses are, but they tend to be confined to old downtowns and row houses in cities like Chicago and Philadelphia

>>527735324
I just don't get why it's made that way because you all live in a very stable, very secure environment.
Nobody is going to bomb your house, it's not gonna collapse during an earthquake, no fire will come, some regions do get floods and tornados but most(90%) don't. So why are you building like the house is going to be gone is 25 years. And you need to cheaply rebuild it. You're almost building Japanese style homes. But Japan gets fucked by one Earthquake a year, historically had whole cities burn down and has 100% humidity, floods, mudslides and just about every other natural disaster you can imagine.

Like I understand Japanese housing. 99% of Japanese houses are wooden jokes I woudn't want to retire in. This is shit for young people and once you're 60 it's going to be catastrophically bad. As are most houses that old Japanese people own. You're sabotaging your old age. Your house is going to have massive problems, massive issues, need constant repairs and refurbishments and you won't have any money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRn8Ck2xiqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-okhGGeOYs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsFom7vRu-A

I am a gigantic weeb but Japanese housing is an absolute joke, it should be built out of Concrete and mold resistant materials with plenty of vents. And most apartment buildings are. So it's not like Japanese people are retarded and can't build concrete. But for some fucking reason all the family homes are wood.

>>527735636
I know about your old houses they're great. My issue is that you haven't built these European style mixed housing/commercial areas in 50 years and you haven't built brick houses since WW1.

People find wooden houses of Americans weird till they realize entirety of american culture is about consumerism.

>>527729688
>Changed the Windows to Triple pane PVC
>Added some insulation in the form of styrofoam.
this will cause mold. Buildings from 1920s have to breathe unless you guys had a different standard to us. Should have used something like chalk.

>>527729688
americans will never own a home, we are a nation of eternal renters because we are owned by jewish investors
jewish investors have run the numbers and found that it is more profitable to knock down a house once it gets to a certain age and build a new one
you can get more rent from renting a brand new home, or selling it to another jewish investor

>>527736110
So far zero issues. It's been 5 years. Mold happens when you have big temperature differences and humid air. I have none.

I guess I would get some if I started running a humidified in my room.

This is why we need COMMUNISM

>>527733449
I was doing some work in West Virginia and I noticed lots of places had a collapsed old building on them. A co-worker told me the owners don't clean it up because it would make their taxes go up.

>>527725492
that's a man's wood
a real man's wood
now i got hard wood
so much hard wood here i could blow

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>>527725492

This is a stupid thread.

>>527725492
Right is slash or loblolly pine
Shitty, fast growing trees. They are more economical to farm.
My family owns a tree farm

>>527725492
1960s is the better piece of lumber. Just sayin.I frankly don't believe the 1914 piece is anything but somebody's home sawmill center-cut trash. board.

>>527725492
>Wood

>>527736110
Buildings from the 1920s breathe naturally. IT is the opposite issue with modern homes. They are so 'airtight' that you need additional circulation designed in. There will be zero issues with the windows and insulation in the1920s house except cheaper bills.

>>527726385
The curing process hasn't been refined yet, a lot of them flake and crack within a year or two. Possibly in a few more years and also used in conjunction with ICF, it could be a worthy product

>>527725947
Elms don't.
Truly the niggers of trees.

>>527725959
Did you liyerally just miss a joke about fucking AGING, like the ONE thing that is universally experienced by all people, and then turn straight around and insult the IQ of the person whose obvious joke you just missed?
TO or VC?

>>527733449
once they're finished no one gives a shit how they look from the outside
thats basically it
> commisar
wake up goyim, croats are doing better than you nowadays. you are just a french/german faggot

>>527735416
absolutely the same reasons
except - when you are a gypo - you know full well they just build huts out of lamarina & cardboard
because they're niggers

>>527725492
>How did they get away with this?
you wont do shit. that's why.

>>527729688
>Owned by my grandmother, passed to my mother, passed to me.
most people's family homes in the US end up getting sold. since everyone here hates each other.

>>527733449
>what is the reason why houses in balkan always look unfinished?
People were poor and couldn't afford to do the finishing. Not plastering the house is simply cost-cutting measure. The only houses who would get plastered, where made of mudbricks, so those would need protection from the rain.

>>527725492
Because consumers don't check for this stuff (and pay more for better wood)
Also it's probably hard to produce enough strong dense wood to satiate modern demand, since you get it from old trees rather than fast-growing pine.

>>527725492
my house built in the 1960's and that nigger is FUCKING STOUT

My house is built in 1970 from Australian hardwood, termites literally can't eat my houses wood it's so astronomically hard, it's literally better than brick and steel. I've destroyed 5 drill bits trying to drill into one of the wooden studs, but steel and brick it's easy peasy.

Wood when it's the right kind of wood is far more impervious to the sands of time than brick etc is it just needs to be protected well though. Brick crumbles and erodes, hardwood is in a constant state of life, it's not actually dead, just transfered into a nother state of existance. If wood still has red colour when you cut into it, it's still living.

>>527725934
Your people are supposed to know trees, buy a new visa niggerjeet

>>527729688
because you live in a 1st world country, with great people and culture unlike Goymerica

>>527740524
>pretending like all the white countries arent in the same boat just so you can have two more seconds of dunking on america
but they are in the same boat, even croatia. all white countries are becoming less white

>>527740981
most, but not all.
Croatia for one is not very economically viable for jeets to turbo migrate to. So they are safe for now.

>>527725492
OP is a retard, but he does make an accidental point. Would you use unfinished 2x4s to build?
The nominal 2x4s of today are more uniform and have less splinters. But for a barn, why not use rough cuts? Today's man does not erect their own barns anymore. That's why we have the shrunken studs.

Here in europe in my area shit build quality peaked in 1970 since then the quality went up every year. But its cause of regulations and the need of structural engineers when you build. But still we dont have the quality of pre 1900 buildings. But to be honest in pre 1900 there was good quality and for low workers the working homes were really low quality lile sheds.

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>>527725492
retarded.
rings depend on the type of the tree and the climate

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>>527741825
>flag
>sub 80 IQ
kek

>>527725804
how much lego can you stuff up your bum?

>>527727034
Ironically TV’s video games and home appliances are the only thing that got relatively cheaper with time. Meanwhile actual life necessities like rent, insurance and education have skyrocketed

>>527741182
>Croatia for one is not very economically viable for jeets to turbo migrate to. So they are safe for now.
no they arent
it is only question of time
canaderp is proof of this

>>527741977
>tf
>tp
irony

>>527725492
Because whitie cut all the good old trees and now all he has is prepubescent Douglas fir

>>527725639
BC hydro ( elecric company ) used to sell their old polls sawed up. 9 foot boards and real rough sawn 2x4s, actually are 2x4". best fence i ever made, 25 years old now without a scratch. lol, prolly toxic as fuck though, treated cedar.

>>527737862
there we go, these are all different cuts of tree