>>527725807

A new car is a depreciating asset and most of the new ones are shit. I can give you a suggestion for a reliable, affordable car that will last you a long time. What style do you want and how much would you want to spend?

My general advice would be to spend around $10K and get something made around 2010 to 2015 and generally speaking to get a Toyota if you don't want to research the exact model and its engine and transmission. You can get something nice for that price and most of its depreciation will be over.

If you want to go cheaper, good shitboxes can be had at $4K and up.

>>527725807
The car loses 30-40% of its value as soon as you drive it off the lot. Best deals are demo models with less than 5000km on the clock.

>>527725807
dont get a new car man. horrible decision. like other anon said find something around 10k you can buy outright, payments and interest is jew shit. buy the car you NEED, nothing more nothing less

>>527726199
That 10k shitbox will require constant work. I got a 2007 honda accord which is super reliable and put in 3k on reparing it last year. Its worth barely over 3k..

>>527726336
And what about reparing the car?

>>527726199
Also, just fuck ur overall attitude of living on bare nesseseties. Ive had it all my life and what did it get me? A shitbox that I spent 3k on last year and women literally laughed at me for driving?

>>527726586
Not saying i support driving a car that will make you fall asleep if you leave the windows up, but the amount of positive remarks I get on a base model Cadillac and muh status for driving it.


Nobody cares about your lifted truck.
You need to have "nice things"

>>527726421
>That 10k shitbox will require constant work.

No it won't.

I own a 2008 Town Car and a 2011 Subaru Outback. Neither of them require much repairs and if something goes wrong they're cheap to fix.

Also if you live in a nice place with dry weather that doesnt rust out, OBS trucks can be bought and fully restored for 20k and then be reliable and smaller than trucks nowadays. Tons of customization options too and cheapish lifts in comparison to newer trucks.
Soft flex to own it versus your 50k cuckcar you need to make payments on, that by the time your about 2/3rd the way through its devalued to less than the value of the loan.

>>527726705
I would totally get a used caddy over a tesla any day except for the fact they barley even last 100k miles. Cadillac are unbeatable in terms of ride smoothness and interior quality. Favorite car bar none. They just dont last long..

>>527726586
Get a used Camry. It's more premium and reliable. If you want to spend more and you can get a used Lexus

>>527725807
Relying on /biz and /pol to make life decisions for you will only end in misery fren.

>>527726763
Says the dude who omly drive 5 miles to work..

>>527726763
This.

A fucking headlight on a 2020 Goytruck costs half of the price of a lift kit for a 1985.

You can rip out and replace most of the engine bay for less than a grand, minus the engine....lord help anyone who has to get their light fluid sensor checked in a newer car or ask "why is it making noise?"

Don't be a dumb nigger.
Buy a used 2010s Lexus es350 for 9k and drive it for 300k miles with only changing the oil.

toyota body on frame

>>527726763
If ur talking about buying a brand new Toyota and making it last 300k thats one thing but buying a used Toyota means it wont last that long. No one who is taking care of it will sell it..

>>527726844
Why would I need a truck if I dont haul shit?

>>527725807
Here's literally the only advice you'll ever need on this.

Never buy a new vehicle.
All cars are "liabilities," as in they are a necessity that you need that just costs money. IT costs money to operate, repair, and maintain a car. So why on earth would you ever get an EXPENSIVE LIABILITY?

Even if you had the money to burn, why not put that into something that's actually an asset (or grows in value rather than diminishes)?

>>527726913
>implying that 2020 headlight will ever break. Of course ur shitbox is cheaper. The 2020 parts will be just as cheap in 2030
My Honda was supposed to last 300k when I bought it at 160..

>>527727018
most women today are liability also

>>527726849
Yeah i know, anon fucked up hard and bought a 14k caddy after getting a promotion "cause he can afford it"

Like, saw the whole meme play out in real life and how "muh payments" and muh status symbol work. Like the things a piece of shit and has taken 10k just to be told it cant be fixed and our only options are send it to fucking Ontario or something or pawn it off on an idiot.
Most normal people, wouldn't have bought a caddy for 14k them cried when the control arms let go a few weeks in driving down the highway and almost kill you, a normal person would go "oh, thats why it only costs 14k".
Also cant hand over the keys, gotta make MUH PAYMENTS even after spending 10k trying to fix it.

Its honestly a huge redpill on normies.

>>527727018
It doesnt cost shit to operate and maintain a tesla since nothing breaks until over 100k miles.

>>527726978
Bodies.
Camping.
Fucking bitches in the back and having the truck bed turned into a small lay down area with bean bags, a side drawer with a bottle of booze and two glasses to watch sunsets.
Groceries.
Bodies.
Lawfully found and not stolen at night with flashlights deer.
Towing your friends cars.
Driving in winter and not crashing.
Driving in winter and having fun.

I can go on...

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>>527725807
>My shitbox is falling apart for real real.

Automation and fly by wire = killswitchable and bricked by any significant Solar Flare bullshit. Old reliables with A LOT of used parts around = lower maintenance, and large ticket parts substitutions - even whole engines - is still radically less than rent-to-own a 'new' shitbox and its even more radical planned obsolescence than ever.

>>527727066
Your Honda didnt last until 300k?,
I grew up in the east coast and the things they did to Honda civics is borderline war crimes.
If its broken you can use it to cut down trees.

I wish I could find a sub 150k Honda just for grocery getter/summer, price of gas hurts sometimes.

/o/ anon here. If saving money is at all important to you, get a used car and learn 2 wrench. Your father has the right idea. You don't have to get an absolute shitbox, though. You can get a nice, older (2005 to 2015) car that is a pleasure to drive and simple to maintain. Teslas are slop for women and gay men, btw.

>>527727159
That dudes funny and his "you can buy a whole Lotta gas" remark on buying used made me see everything differently.

Also Toyota corolla last forever if you baby them.

yeah just get some 2000s 6cyl bmw with leather/wood interior , it should be okay as long as the mileage isn't super high like 100k or lower miles. If Dr. Frasier can drive a good car, so can you

>>527725807
>My shitbox is falling apart for real real. Ive been driving shitboxes my whole life beacuse my literal jew penny pinching dad brainwashed me.
If you're handy and can fix a shitbox.
Get a shitbox.
If you're poor (bottom middle class) get a 2-3 year old vehicle.
If you're doing ok (upper middle class) get a moderately priced new car.
If you're upper class then buy whatever you want.

Sounds from your post post that you should buy a 2-3 year old Jap car. Honda, Toyota etc.

>>527725807
New cars are for people who are either stupid or have enough disposable income that it doesn't matter. There is a saying about depreciation, that you lose something like 15% of a new cars value the moment you drive it away from the dealership. Its true. Cars are marked up in value and it drops instantly the moment it becomes preowned. Something like 3 or 4 years of use and its already lost half its value. So why would you buy something new instead of buying something 4 years old that is half the price? Why not buy something even older? That's where research comes in. There are plenty of vehicles out there that require minimal maintenance that can go for hundreds of thousands of miles before they're completely spent.

Put it this way. If you buy a new car and it gets totaled somehow within the first few years of you owning it, you're out a lot of money. If a used car gets totaled, you just buy another one. New cars are for people who can afford the loss in value. Used cars are for people that seriously need to think about living within their means

>>527727267
Hey anon,

If my dad gave me a classic, and my grandparents went and parked it in the woods, by moving it with a tractor, is this deliberate and malicious, or is it just boomers being boomers.
After making numerous remarks over the years about "shouldn't have sold muh 67".

>>527726586
Then buy a cool older car and keep your current shitbox as a backup so you can get to work. I took the JDM pill and I could pickup another one of these for 3-5K cad. Lots of fun to drive, women love it, isn’t too expensive to repair and they can’t shut it off, track it or catch it. A c5-6 corvette would be my recommendation if JDM’s are still too expensive in America.

>>527725807
so you can barely save anything and you want to finance a new car? Are you non white?

>>527727267
Ive droven plenty of cars in those years and none of them are fun to drive. U are gaslighting urself that they are.

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>>527725807
For value honestly the only real good deals I've ever encountered were from family/friends/coworkers.

The other thing to consider is whether or not you can work on an older car. Most of the posters ITT live with their parents and they forget not everyone has a garage/driveway to work in and a spare vehicle they can borrow.

The last thing to consider is how far you commute. If you're in California doing the hour long commute each way then the gas savings you get with a new/newer car can easily make up the price difference.

>>527726421
my brother's 1992 honda required maybe $500 in repairs for the 5 years he owned it
honda has lemons too. choose wisely

>>527725807
Do your own research and figure out what's best for you. Too lazy to do that? /o/ has a pinned buyer's guide. Now fuck off.

>>527725807
Buy a new car, just not a pricey one

Used cars are trash

>>527727430
Anon im not sure if your a manlet but having sex in cars is fucking painful and Impossible for us 6'Chads.
Gotta get a truck with a backseat for that.

Also if you drive a shitbox women will judge you for it, but at the same time they dont have a car, so.

>>527726952
don't buy from a r etard who changes oil every 50k milese

>>527727511
>Ive droven plenty of cars
You used up your two remaining braincells making that post.

>>527725807
>Calls dad a jew
>proceeds to seriously consider buying a NEW CAR from the dealership.

And you are calling your dad a jew? He's just not as good of a goy as you. You are literally just giving money away buying a new car. You are paying to drive it off the lot. That's it. And the warranty but even a newer used car will come with warranty. Buy a GOOD shitbox, like an old camry/corolla/civic/accord, and just maintain it.

Remember if you're black you can always just steal a car. It's okay bro, it's normal in america.

>>527725807
This is like the pristine virgin vs ran thru foid discussion.
>>527726199
Every guy say to take the old hag, have their bitch that they ran into the ground

>>527727524
>Most of the posters ITT live with their parents and they forget not everyone has a garage/driveway to work in and a spare vehicle they can borrow.


Yes. Most towns have bylaws about turning wrenches in public, dont be surprised if some boomer calls it in and says your trying to steal a truck with "something that looks like a firearm"
Seeing my idiot brother and the townies whine about his used car collection he always has to shuffle around when they ticket his non-driving cars is hilarious.

Just the amount of money he wastes by having all these broken trucks he cant work on or fix, but having to move them around so the permit gestapo dont take them on him is hilarious.


This is very common behavior where I live too, normies will just refuse to spend more than 1000 on a shitbox, or they see someones failed half taken apart project on the used car page, and now they have these grandiose delusions about "how you'd look so good in it" and then they can "buy it off you later"

Like they see junk, then want you to buy it with the intentions of you fixing it later, and even when you offer to buy their junk truck to help them/the problem they wont sell it cause muh ITS FOR X REASON, I HAVE TO FIX IT UP FOR X REASON.

>>527727430
My old car has shit the bed and cost more to repaired than its worth.. not to me tion I spent 3k on it last year, which is what its worth now.. I need a car to commute. Expline to me how a jam is funner than a tesla. I get if u like the engine roar, I like it too but ill take speed and self driving and reliability(yes chud, they are reliable) over that any day

Buying a new car is retarded as fuck. It's simply not worth it. With a little digging and not being absolutely clueless on cars, you can get a reliable car for 10k or under, whereas the cheapest, shittiest new car is at minimum double that.
>hurr durr women will laugh at me!
Women don't give a fuck about your car unless it's an absolutely disgusting, decrepit shitbox or if it's some super car that implies you're rich. 99.999% of cars illicit absolutely no reaction from a woman. Also you're a retarded faggot if you even care.

>>527727629
>seething paragraph of absolute poorfag cope
Sad
New cars are pretty damned amazing.
My first vehicle was a '61 Willy Jeep.
Owned 20 cars since then.
Cars are much better now.
You obviously wouldn't know.
I do not miss carburetors.

>>527727524
It will sve me 2.5k a year on gas, which i currently basxially am using to keep my car alive

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>>527725807
CHOOSE YOUR ADVENTURE.
It's a goy goblet (because every single civilized country punishes driving a real car due to a "carbon footprint".

You better learn to listen to the humbling rustling of the tires like SHHHHhh besides the humble humming of the electric taxi you're in while you move and forget about the excitement of acceleration, filthy goy!

>>527727629
No we are literally jewish

>>527727797
Try looking at things differently.

Its half or a third the gas to drive your car to work during the weekdays, then with that "money saved" you can afford to drive your truck all weekend and have them filled with gas for if you "have too" or "need too".

Just driving a truck from a-b is so fucking stupid lmao. Just buy a prius

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>>527727430
Sorry forgot pic, but I’d look into the JDM BMW market too. You can get a nice 335i or even an M3 for under 10 grand with stupid low mileage

>>527727808
>Buying a new car is retarded as fuck. It's simply not worth it.
Look at you not understanding how warranties work.
Look at you not understanding how machines degrade over time.
Look at (You).
Being a stupid man.
Sad.

>>527727757
They are deranged

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Get a 2013-2015 Chevy volt for 4-6k
We got both of ours 3 years ago and they both paid for themselves after 28 months of ownership based on fuel savings. Mines coming on it’s 2nd pay off period now, both are at 155k miles with zero issues or range loss.
None of that Tesla dc fast charging none sense, gas is like 1/3rd the price of fast charging and u get 90-100% of the benefits of home charging.
Ins is 21/mo coz they don’t realize u can hack them to put out 185kw/250hp and spin tires. Faster than a base model Tesla, infinitely more practical. Teslas will never pay for themselves now days.

>>527727757
I was more referring to apartments where if you so much as pop the hood or roll a jack under your car the manager will be threatening to tow the vehicle. Also roommate situations often don't include a driveway or garage.

>>527727946
They fucking hate seeing young folks work on their cars.
I honestly find it hard to believe they have a permit gestapo and chase down people who turn wrenches in their front yard, but its fucking real.

Getting 1 over tickets for dating the wrong girls is a reality too, ultrakek

>>527727934
>spend $29,000 + tax + tip + fees for a new car
>or spend $8,500 for a used car
Do you think you're going to put over $20k of work into a used car, and conversely believe nothing wrong will EVER happen to a new car? Do you think the warranty covers everything forever and ever? Warranties are kiked as fuck.

>>527725807
You already posted this on /biz/.

Anyways, it's all basic mathematics and risk management. None of the retards on here can tell you one way or another what to do, especially if you don't provide very specific details.

>>527727841
In that case probably not worth it on that alone as your insurance on a new or leased vehicle will be that much.

What the fuck does this have to do with politics

>>527725807
>Red pill me on new vs used cars. My shitbox is falling apart for real real. Ive been driving shitboxes my whole life beacuse my literal jew penny pinching dad brainwashed me.
>I make 2700 every 2 weeks after tax, rent is 1600. Dumb or worth it move to get a brand new tesla? Or should I get a used one? Or buy another 3-4k shitbox?
Do you have the time, patients, and willingness to buy the tools to fix petty bullshit that fails?
If so, go with the shitbox.
If not enjoy the mortgage on a new car.

>>527727985
Yeah thats law in most places nowadays here.
First its some boomer "telling you how it is around here"
Then dudes with guns show up because you "threatened him" and now your in trouble.


The amount of firm handshaking and free labor that had to be done so that I was above the suspicion of the boomer in my area, was earned.
I can work on my trucks in the front lawn, and you will never see the permit gestapo show up guns drawn and ask if I've got my wrench liscence and am certified to use elbow grease.
But if the shitbag neighbors do, 100% they get the cops called on them.

>>527728161
Shitbox + having money cheat, kek.

OBS trucks are 15-20k to restore, and then that should get you a few years with at best having to replace a part or two, and none of them except the engine cost more than 600.
Their easy enough YouTube works for most things that arent trannies or installing a lift kit.
Its all analog and drag and drop/upgrade with aftermarket parts.

>>527725807
Honda CRVs sold second hand if you really want a Honda

>>527727933
Based car. I feel the same way. But I forget that some dudes really just aren't interested in cars and driving as a hobby. Or they live in some hell hole with terrible traffic and no fun roads. Or they just don't have a place to wrench, like the other anon said. Maybe some niggas really should just get a tesla.

>>527727144
I have 6 cars. I mention this because cars are kind of my thing. There isn't one right answer, it depends on so many things. Where do you live? Do you have shit winters? Because a used car likely won't help you unless you get really lucky. I usually drive older cars and they end up costing me more in repairs and time than if I just leased one. My newest car is a 2017 and everything is broken on it although it still drives and stops. Do you have a long commute? do you expect to rack up kms, do you have a family, that sort of thing

>>527728161
>Do you have the time, patients, and willingness to buy the tools to fix petty bullshit that fails?
Can you not afford mechanics in the US? Sureany of them are fucking Jew hacks that want to over charge, but you choose your mechanic based on reputation.

No electronic
A car doesn't need a computer, a car doesn't need software, a car doesn't need electric window

>>527727797
I’d be willing to bet the EMF coming off those motors is like you’re driving a microwave around. If you think 3k on your accord is expensive try 30k on new batteries and motors… You could probably get a newish motor for your accord for $2-300 as well. Surely if you dropped 3 grand in an accord it should be good for a while, no? Do some more preventative maintenance and save up enough cash to buy something fun outright. You can then risk buying a less reliable car or a project because you still kept the accord

>>527726421
Retard. How did you spend 3k on a 20 year old Honda? You could literally put a used motor and transmission in it for that much..

>>527727252
I know a dude in NFLD that has the most fucked up Honda ever and it still runs great.

>>527725807
You won't like this answer but honestly get a 2008-2014 Honda from a teacher or a granny. If it was looked after and you look after it it will last another 30 years.

>>527728031
>Do you think you're going to put over $20k
Well that's silly.
At least come to me with an honest argument, sir.

>>527728564
I assume he means he paid a mechanic 3k in labor to swap his blinker fluid

>>527728492
But if the Nvidia is too expensive to be on your computer, surely you want nvidia AI in your car at least?

>>527728046
Sounds like OP just wants to talk cars.

>>527728458
Shop rate in my area is $200/hr so even simple jobs easily run into the thousands and forget about paying to have something like head gaskets done unless you're rich. It would be cheaper to buy another car.

Used cars are for retards. Buying a new BMW 7 or 8 series or a Mercedes S class and losing 30k driving it off the lot is based as fuck

>>527728853
lmao

>>527725807
Never buy new as most anons here have mentioned, you're literally burning money.

The only time it makes some financial sense is if you earn shitloads of cash and are on the highest income tax tier. You can get a lease agreement with your company to "rent" for a new luxury car with your pre-tax income. During this period, all expenses except gas is covered in your lease. You can rinse and repeat this process every few years and even buy out one of your cars at second hand prices once the lease term is over.

>>527728031
>$8,500 for a used car
Used cars are garbage and break down all the time. This is the truth.
A newer vehicle lasts at least 10+ years and no worries.
I have places to go.
I have an occupation that needs stability.
What is wrong with you?
Do you never leave your house?
Does nobody depend on you?
You are fascinating.
Do you work?

>>527728930
>A newer vehicle lasts at least 10+ years and no worries
this is bullshit

>>527725807
You are borderline on being able to take the hit from a new car, but to be honest, I would still recommend used car for you.

Buying a new car is always a bad decision, but if you have enough money, the depreciation doesn't matter. The bigger question is why you would want a Tesla, with a battery that destroys the environment? Why not get a hybrid or a diesel? California set everyone back by mandating electric cars, but in the next ten years we will get hydrogen cars, which all major car companies were invested in until California fucked shit up

>>527728976
No it's not.

>>527728930
anon you're supposed to get a ton of work done every 10 years. You're not supposed to wait for things to break one by one

>>527729003
Not if you include EV's... battery degradation is a real problem.

>>527728930
How do you find crack so cheap?

>>527728853
>losing 30k
You are all so poor. Fuck me.

>>527725807
Where in the fuck do you pay 1600 rent every two weeks and need to drive somewhere.
Also:
>>>/o/

>>527729052
>battery degradation is a real problem.
Indeed

>>527725807
You're better of leasing a new car and claiming it in your income tax. There are far less upfront costs when leasing as well, tires servicing and even cleaning are all covered.

>>527729053
>How do you find crack so cheap?
Ask your mother.

>>527725807
Just keep in mind, a new car is worth half as much the moment you make the purchase and drive it off the lot. A lot of its “value” is arbitrary. Just get a used car with 40k miles and a reputation for sturdiness.

>>527725807
New car
>car payments/interest
>loses value immediately
>modern technology
>obnoxious infotainment screens
>beeps at you if you don’t buckle up
>can be remote controlled by feds
>ugly modern designs
>no cd player or aux only bluetooth bulshit

Used car
>$6000 cash, no payments or interest
>20 years old ~130k miles
>routine maintenance is fun
>interesting mechanical issues that are fun to troubleshoot
>cd player, tape deck, tactile knobs
>no computer shit
>cool classic style
>edgy
>no big deal if it craps out or you crash it just get another one

>>527729177
>a new car is worth half as much the moment you make the purchase
False. Unless you finance it.
In which case you are very dumb.

>>527726421
In what world do you think it is more financially responsible to purchase something else? I don't know what repairs you've made for this 3k, but I'm skeptical of that number at face value. Beyond that, buying a different car for $50,000+ is STILL $47,000 more expensive than your 3k repairs. Literal fucking retard.

>>527729184
Don't finance a new car.
Pay cash. Dumb dumb.
Oh.. wait.
Im in a thread with poors.
Fuck.
Now it all makes sense.
LMAO
Damn. That took me way too long. Ha.

>>527729003
I think you need to look no further than to see that fucking SUBARU is topping the reliability charts for the past 2-3 years to see that new cars are FUCKED now. How embarrassing for auto manufacturers that they can’t make a nice inline 4, 6 or v8 more reliable than a fucking boxer motor. The big spiderweb of shit electrical wires and canbus systems means you can’t repair them for fuck either, time for another donation to a Jews island retreat fund

>>527728046
5400 a month after tax. 1500 rent. Affordable or stupid decision?

I can't really see much of any reason to buy a brand new car unless it's to flex status and how much expendable income you have when you can buy even just last years model of the same car you want with barely any miles and no accident history for far less if you're a little patient and willing to look around a bit. Loke if you were rich any buying super cars with limited production or something it'd be different but for a daily driver or utility vehicle it seems completely pointless to me.

>>527726281
>The car loses 30-40% of its value as soon as you drive it off the lot
so why is there even a market for new cars at all ? It's a mystery for me.

>>527726514
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl1edZ6K1JY

>>527725807
Maybe consider something in between a shitbox and a brand new tesla?

>>527726421
Bad car purchasing skills speak for themselves you moon cricket

>>527728444
60 moles to work there and back twice a week.

Also no love life or freinds so why not just take pleasure in material objects..

>>527729224
Why buy used if you aren't a huge poor?

manufacturers like Ford offer 0% interest for 3 or 5 years on desirable cars like Mustangs and F150 trucks.

Its literally a new car and free loan

>>527729300
BMW is actually topping the reliability charts. And sportiness charts, and all the charts really.

t. M car appreciator

>>527729184
or the initial d version:

new car
>braking drift .. because you want to brake into the corner


old car
>breaking drift .. you showed off, but it was too wide and now the car dropped into the ditch. But it's okay because you learned something new!

>>527728547
U are assuming those are gonna break before 200k miles..

>>527726421
I have the same car. Bought it with 160k on the dash. Paid 4k canadian monopoly dollara for it and spent 1.5k on repairs. That's a 5.5k car that as reliable as hell. I drive this little tank directly into snow banks and drive it out no struggle. I have power to accelerate while going 120kph to merge if someone tries to fuck with me. I will drive this car until it rusts apart. Fuck I wish I could buy it new.

>>527729388
Yeah, if you can secure a 0% loan then go for it.
Ain't nothing wrong w/ that.

>>527729388
0% financing + FACTORY WARRANTY which you will never (or very rarely) get on used vehicles.

>>527729132
Every month

Post a new vehicle that looks cool (you can’t and they’re slop now.)

Only the new GMC duramaxes look ok

>>527729531
>f you can
they're everywhere. Ford Mustang GT and F150 both with V8 engines at 0% for 5 years.

Those are incredible vehicles, high performance and a supercharger can be installed for $10k more.

and anyone with decent credit can get that rate. People ITT a bunch of broke retards reveling in driving shitbox hoopties

>>527729323
>I can't really see much of any reason to buy a brand new car unless it's to flex status
If you are poor then don't buy new.
It'll suck you dry.

>>527729600
>can't even get his units straight
>>>/o/

>>527725807
>buy another 3-4k shitbox
You know this is the answer. Cars are the antithesis of wealth.

>>527729613
>People ITT a bunch of broke retards
That is accurate.

>>527729667
>Cars are the antithesis of wealth.
Only if you are beginning to build wealth, anon.

buy a Nissan Stanza

Also if you don't mind an older vehicle that needs some work from time to time if you happen to know anyone who works for a major used car retailer they can often pick up stuff at wholesale price and you can save a lot of money using them as a go between. Usally not great options but when the economy is bad and the market is doing poorly so stock isn't moving you can occasionally get lucky with a really good vehicle sitting on the lot too long and becoming eligible for that employee wholesale purchase.

>>527726281
it loses like 5-10% you stupid nigger. for lots of non-poorfags its worth it to just get a new car and not have to worry about what prior owners did, plus everything is under warranty. plus new cars are safer, better mileage, cameras for parking, phone synching, etc.
do whatever you want, but don't act like it doesn't make sense for someone who isn't poor to get a new car.

>>527729388
This person will never be wealthy. The repo man does not care what your interest rate is, and your dumb ass will still be upside down on the loan in 6 months. You should NEVER make payments on a depreciating asset - for any reason.

-t. multimillionaire

>>527729232
Axel rod, tire cylinder, springs, side speings(i domt know what those are called of the top of my head), thinf that hold the engine(rusted out), o2 sensor, bunch fo other stuff. And this sint him telling me this. This is me coming to him each time after the car started driving funny

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>>527729613
The GMT800 GMC trucks will still be there to pull them to the junkyard by 2035 ;)

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>>527727953
forgot to mention that gen1 volts last 470k miles easily coz no transmission, just a panitary gear transaxle. straight up has a bigger ev battery than a new prius and is just as fast while being 50k cheaper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ629JuzjCA
proof of a volt that was driven into the ground 250 miles per day and in a couple accidents lasting forever.

new evs dont have the same SOC protection and use garbage low cobalt virgin tier battery chemistries that all age over time. they also have garbage thermal managment and nvh engineering in the hv battery pack. really 2013 is the best year volt and they last forever. 2012 is the worst year.

all these people saying to buy a used toyota/honda are npc level uninspired and usually only say that coz they know nothing about cars. to them, wrenching means changing the cabin air filter lol.
all used toyota/hondas are double what they should cost and litterally no one knows what an EREV is or why the volt was the perfect car that never broke.

i know this is true coz when i ask AI questions about the volt it just links me to my own posts in fb/gm volt forums posts. most underapprecieated stealth ev you mistook for being a hybrid/prius knockoff.

iron block, port injected, can easily pull the fuse on onstar tracking module, and the only naturally asperated 1.4 ecotec gm ever sold in quantity. the highest soc hv battery protection ever put in a car with a plug. hondas barely protect their overstressed batteries and have anemic electric motors.

my volt has a solar roof and lead acid battery delete. made my own 7lb 16v lto forever battery for 60 bucks by importing the cells from china. i also made a portable ev charger for 500 bucks so i can steal electricity from work and do all my charging for free. find my youtube if u search solar volt. rather not give all the uninspired toyota cultists a direct link to channel their insecurities and rationalize their car buying mistakes

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>>527729601
>post a new vehicle that looks cool
>gmx duramax
Well, you just shot yourself down my guy.
Badass lookin truck desu.
Make your dream a reality.

When my care bites it I'm moving to within walking distance of work and not getting another.

>>527729827
you couldn't be more wrong and have no clue.

You DO NOT have a rich mindset if you would rather pay upfront in cash for something instead of taking a free loan, as in 0% interest.

>>527729827
BTW cars are toys. The fact you consider them a "depreciating asset" shows you'e a fucking brokie with no say

>>527729731
Every actual rich person I know drives a very unimpressive car. The ones driving $80k+ cars are all broke. It never fails. Driving a flashy car is the biggest tell of a negative net worth on the planet. Being wealthy >>>>> looking wealthy.

>>527729900
Rich is not a mindset. It is a mathematical fact. And you are not, and never will be.

I make less than you, I pay more in rent because I have a bigger house and I have a brand new Corvette Z51 3LT

I've had my used car for 11 years and it still runs like the day I got it. Did I get lucky or are most people retarded with car maintenance? I genuinely cant tell anymore

>>527729827
>You should NEVER make payments on a depreciating asset - for any reason.
That's plain wrong. If you have the money to buy it outright and can get a loan for it you can invest that money and have it grow for you and have your profits make the payments. Your end result could even be you have the same amount of money you started with + a new car. You don't know shit about money and are larping as a millionaire if you don't know how to leverage debt.

>>527729989
People who seriously cross shop cars out of necessity and make rules about discretionary spending on them for anything other than shits and giggles of a new toy are broke as a joke.

Emotion is part of being rich, and cars evoke emotion that you simply wouldn't understand. Mathematical fact my ass

>>527729872
>When my care bites
>care
Freudian slip?
You love cars.
Admit it.
They're fun.
Tangible objects that you own and can maintain are amazing.
Life is good, anon.
Embrace it.

>>527726892
This - they are easy to maintain and the parts are cheap.
Even if you do the minimum of maintenance they are solid and just keep going.

>>527730012
If anything happens to it youll have to max out your credit card and spend a year paying that off. Nimrod.

>>527730021
Outside the US cars are a whole different ballgame. US cars are overpriced, over-regulated maintenance nightmares. Everywhere else you can find a nice manual shift 1000kg lb car without an extra $40k of safety and emissions bullshit.

>>527729900
>free loan
Uncommon, however they are quite nice.
Taken a few.
Most loans require a cost v benefit analysis.

>>527729949
>Every actual rich person I know drives a very unimpressive car
Well, I have half the equation. If I were rich I'd have a butler washing my balls, not at meclauren

>>527729326
Minorities and women falliing into financing schemes

>>527730114
See, that's where you're wrong, random retard from a foreign country. A corvette is still a chevrolet and parts are extremely cheap

>>527730021
Mine is 17 years old with just shy of 200k. I have had it for 15, ford focus, been extremely reliable. I can't tell if I'm lucky or if everyone is retarded either

>>527729949
>Every actual rich person I know drives a very unimpressive car.
Perhaps to (You) it is unimpressive.

>>527730182
they're super common, Ford corporate has been handing them out like candy and forcing them on every dealership. Makes the finance guy big mad when you sign for it

>>527730021
>are most people retarded with car maintenance?
Yes

>>527730070
Leveraging debt is just unnecessary risk. Risk is the path to bankruptcy, not wealth. If you are wealthy, you no longer need risk. That is for gambling perpetual losers. Borrowing money to put it in the stock market is no different than playing blackjack on a credit card. When you lose you are still fucked. I know zero rich people who got there investing with leverage. Done plenty of bankruptcies for those people though. I admire your optimism, but it is tragically misguided.

>>527725807
I opt for certified pre owned although they will skimp out on all their verified inspections and standards and not perform their own recommended maintenance.
They are leases. They sell the car twice basically. First, they sell the brand new car to someone and put mileage restrictions on them, charge them about half the total price of a new car just to own it for 3 years. Then sell it as C.P.O. to someone else for about half the total price of a new car.

>>527730279
>finance guy
Most of em get spiffs, so yeah.

>>527725807
I bought (stole) a brand new shitbox for 21k and 9 years later its still worth 15k, depreciation doesnt matter unless you buy bottom of the barrel muttmerican shit

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>>527727159
Based dog probably stood on bussiness and taught him a lesson.

>>527730401
>I bought (stole) a brand new shitbox
Flag checks.
But seriously, good on ya.

>>527727953
Thats one thats on the list, but muh battery replacement.

Is it better than a prius, and can you have sex in the back seat?

>>527730502
imma steal an RS3 soon enough and honestly whats the point of spending 50k on a model with 50-70k miles when 60k is brand new, used car market in europe is so many levels of fucked

>>527730274
We had a similar one at 360 then the electric box went ????
And the two mechanics in town couldn't fix it so we threw it out.

6.6mpg when I drove it, 8 when they did...

>>527730274
Mine is a 2014 VW Polo. I understand you get the Golf that side; its basically built exactly the same but the Polo is less sportier. Still accelerates like a jackrabbit though. Had issues with the AC and the headliner will need to be fixed this year for sure lel but all the "important" stuff is still 100%.

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>>527725807
You don't have to buy a 3k shitbox and you also don't have to buy a 60k new shitbox either.
A little bit of automotive ball knowledge goes a long way, use those little balls between your legs and find something cool, reliable, that makes you feel enough to learn how to keep it running.
Pro tip: Used cars from 2010 have less breakdowns than new cars in 2020 according to insurance data.
There's a sweet spot somewhere around 2005-2010 where cars weren't completely enshittified, got some of the better aspects of modern engineering, have some decent QOL improvements, the milage still isn't too high and they're not old enough to be collectable to the "cool" crowd yet.

>>527730114
Makes me laugh seeing americans with 80k in student loans driving a 2025 hybrid touchscreen they owe 60 grand on because they "need it to get to their part time job at Amazon" or some shit.
One of the richest guys I know here (10m+) drives a shitty red 2002 Toyota hiace van lmao.

>>527732492
Thats consistent with what I've seen and I'm sure you've seen too. When I drive through an affluent area, sure you see your Mercs/BMWs/Porches etc. But most of the cars are like 2010-2015 Hondas, Kias Hyundais etc

>>527726514
glad you asked
you can repair any car pre 2008 by yourself
and any car pre 2015 is cheaper to repair than new one by magnitude of severall times cheaper
old car have issue ? it still deives fine
bew car have error ? computer block whole car and you need to order truck to carry it to mehanic

>>527726586
>and women literally laughed at me for driving a shitbox
lived in several countries
always found it bizarre how important it is to Americans to be able to display their supposed wealth with their vehicles
the only other places where you really see that are some Middle East countries, and Korea (famously irresponsible with their money) and to a limited degree, China.

they also use them to display info about themselves via stickers:
I Like Cats, I Like Guns, My Kid Is An Honor Student At X High School, Clever Saying/Funny Drawing. I Belong To This Group, My Child Is In My Car So Drive Better For The Sake Of My Child Who Is In My Car, Don't Like MY Driving? Call: 1-800-EAT-SHIT, etc

>>527732492
Jeff Bezos drove a Camry for years, people used to give him shit about it but it drove fine

>>527727808
>99.999% of cars illicit absolutely no reaction from a woman. Also you're a retarded faggot if you even care
This post wins the thread. Everything else rings true as well

>>527733893
>he doesnt have anime stickers on his ride.


Ngmi anon.

>>527725807
I don't own a car
>but how do you go places
I don't I stay home all day

>>527726586
>caring about what superficial cunts think
Come on mang

>>527725807
all you need to know when buying a car is how much it costs to own & keep running for the next 5 years (you should not be holding on to one car for longer than 5 years in any case)

a brand new car will then cost you something like 30k through depreciation alone.

a 10-15k used car still has some 10k in depreciation left to go through, and can cost you an arm and a leg in repairs, since it's not cheap enough to just cut your losses and throw away and the sunk cost fallacies will be particularly dangerous with these. so that's probably the worst option out there, especially once you factor in the headache and wasted time.

a 3-4k shitbox basically loses you nothing on depreciation. you should by no means do any expensive repairs on it and just scrap it or sell it for parts the moment its no longer worth the trouble. so the costs of owning it are very small, you'd need to be unlucky to the point of needing to replace like 3-4 of them over the course of the 5 year period for the losses to match those of getting a used car for 15k

>lease brand new car for 24 months
>rag the shit out of it before the 3 year/60k miles warranty runs out
>hand it back
>get another brand new car
Simple as. You're paying each month anyway so fuck taking the depreciation hit.

>>527725807
Why not move up a little in the used segment?

>>527736048
3-4k shitboxes will kill you in a crash
15k shitboxes will save your life

>>527736152
well don't crash then

>>527736175
I don’t control other drivers

>>527725807
It will be illegal to buy a used car soon

>>527736048
>you should not be holding on to one car for longer than 5 years in any case
wtf is this logic. A car doesn't suddenly become less safe and reliable after 5 years Mr waffle

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>>527736152
Especially retarded and uninformed boomer repeatitive mantra considering you live in the yookay where cars are basically fucking free compared to any other country on the planet

>>527730734
for 60k you can buy a 2021 m3 competition.. much better than audi

>when 60k is brand new
no such thing is brand new rs3 at 60k, it's 67k with no options and it's a tiny can slop

>>527725807
I prefer new for the peace of mind. Just keep an eye out for good deals and jump when you see one.

go for 2-3 year old versions that are basically the same shit for half the price

Find a 15-20 year old Toyota

Fuck spending money on cars

>Buy old car
>A new noise or leak appears every few weeks or months
>No warranty
>Pay a load of money to maintain it
>Don't even get the modern luxuries for paying out that money

Old car
>no touch screens
>no ai bullshit
>no subscription fees
>doesn't require an internet connection
>government can't remotely shut off your vehicle or track you
Simple as.

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Lmao I paid 10k euros for my new shitbox 6 years ago, it's 14k used market price now. This shit is retarded

>>527726199
Fine if you'd rather spend 10k-20k Ggo for a 4 year old car with super low mileage that was only driven by an old lady to church on weekends. Don't fall for the "so and so brand is more reliable" meme. Its all in how you drive it

>>527725807

Considered getting a used Acura TL/TLX. It’s a Honda Accord with a top hat. The parts on it are a little more upscale than the Accord and it’s got a great track record for reliability. My 09 has 191k miles and few issues. Only drawbacks are there ugly beak in the front, premium gas and not as much fun to drive as other models.

>>527725807
Get an old car mostly because they have already been millions people before you. And there are millions of reviews, complains and such for every old car so you get a pretty good idea of the overall reliability and common problems of an older car. When buying a new car you are essentially testing it. Your gf should be new not your cars

>>527725807
If you can afford it, it's not that bad. You can't do anything yourself on it (probably have to register all parts with the manufacturer, makes theft harder but also makes you completely dependent on them). Look into "driver aids", some you can't turn off and they can be really annoying. If you can turn them off, make sure they STAY OFF. Some re-enable themselves.

Also look into how the manufacturer is dojng on data gathering. You can easily be recognised by the weight sensor in seat. All the driving habits etc, can get logged. If you care.

More comfy and convenient than getting an older car, I guess.

>>527726199
How are American cars so expensive yet require so much service???

I paid 3000€ for a volkswagen passat b5.5 1.9tdi 12 years ago and I’ve only given it consumables and 1 (one) rear spring.

>>527743229
Meant for>>527726421

>>527739678
used cars are cheaper here yes
new cars are actually more expensive than germany

>>527725807
>I make 2700 every 2 weeks after tax, rent is 1600.
You need to focus on saving up the deposit for your own house, forget about cars for now.

>>527726763
Subarus need wheel bearing work constantly and you have to watch it's oil like a hawk. But I do like them, they don't fuck up as much as honda or nissan

>>527730178
LOOOOL mutts crying about cars and maintenance being over-regulated, I fucking diddely can't!!!!

>>527739678
>browsing 13 year old cars
>with 300.000km mileage
>asking price 5000€
>calling them basically free
>also calling OTHER people retards
>votes CDU to make a difference

>>527725807
New cars are scam. Just dont. But also don't buy a used car with like 10,000, they are usually traps with manufacturer mistakes. Toyota san and Honda san. Just straight up Google 'year Make Model reliability'. And dont buy from drivetime or carmax unless youre a broke with gigashit credit. But above all else. For the love of God. Don't buy a Ford Focus.

>>527726421
You got unlucky. Still no reason to burn thousands of dollars taking the depreciation on a new shitbox that will have electrical issues.

>>527745018
This guy right here got it. New ford cars are absolute garbage. I think the old ford focuses were decent but they are almost 20 years old now. the ones in 2010 were so bad I took one for a rental and gave it back after 20 minutes of driving it was so bad. I couldn't even rent one to drive like trash

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>>527726586
Now we see why hes posting this in /pol/ and not. /o/. See there's actually this fun little board called /r9k/...

>>527726855
Used Lexus es350 is a phenomenal value, albeit theyre not great on gas.

>>527733893
Leftover coping from everyone being housepoor now.

>>527729326
It's a status symbol for those who can afford it and those who think they can.

>>527725807
buy an almost new, used car (<5 years old).
that way you get a practically new car but don't have to pay the driving off the lot premium.

>>527745120
That was my first car. My grandfather said he remembered them being good. It's actually quite funny now but holy shit worst car part of all time goes to that tranny.

>>527727757
>Most towns have bylaws about turning wrenches in public, dont be surprised if some boomer calls it in and says your trying to steal a truck with "something that looks like a firearm"
what fucking hell do you live in

>>527745415
akshually I would look at the mileage rather than the age.

>>527729427
hey man i like m-series too but you shouldn't just go around lying like that - unless you're not lying

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>>527725807
Get an used older rust free Tundra, Tacoma, Landcruiser, 4Runner or Sequoia, do all the work yourself, haul bitches in the bed, truck will last longer than you will. Easy

>>527726281
>>527729326
Maybe some of us don’t want to drive a car with other people’s braps in them. Ever think of that?
Anyway, with the increasing price of vehicles nowadays, a new car doesn’t lose nearly as much value as it used to (depending on what car you get, how much you drive, and how you take care of it.) But if you want to drive a used vehicle with no warranty and no guarantee it won’t turn into a shitbox in two years, be my guest.

>>527725807
Of you aren't stuck with a bad loan on a car don't go into new. New only makes sense if you are underwater on your current car and need fake jew math to buy a car for under msrp (fake number) and shift your negative equity to a new loan. Save up and buy straight cash. Interest rates are too fucked at the moment.

>>527725807
Used luxury is the way I go now. Lexus is a good brand.

>>527725807
1. You make enough to buy a reasonable new car if your really want

2. Tesla or other EV is only a reasonable choice ( maybe) if you live somewhere EV friendly woth lots of charging and no cold weather.

3. Used is almost always a better deal. You miss the first titling depreciating. The sweet spot varies car to car, but generally something that is a year or 2 old and has enough milage to have a documented first service is many thousands less than new, and im terms of wear and tear is pretty minimal. Off lease cars are great for this.

One of the biggest things that fuck up used cars is improper ( or no) service. Leased cars are generally maintained by the dealer per yhe contract, so you know Karen wasn't skipping the oil changes.

>>527729388
The loan is just built into the inflated price lol.

>>527725807
By a used electric car. Used ones are going for pennies because of Elons politics.
A used model 3 performance can be had in the 22-27k range and is as fast as an older gen Bugatti veyron. Regular model 3s go for under 20 if you search

>>527736152
You think automotive safety is drastically different from 2005 to say 2015?

Lol kill you in a crash?

>>527726421
Learn how to do your own work. Those repairs would have been around $500

>>527725807
Do NOT buy a new car.
Keep an eye on KEI trucks. They aren't legal for sale in the US yet, but should be within the next 2years.
Keep an eye on all the auto sales sites until something from the 90s or even 80s shows up in reasonably good condition. You'll pay extra but it will be worth it.

>>527725807
I had a 1999 shitbox for years. I recently chucked it in and got a brand new car on PCP (it's basically renting the car, but you can either buy it outright after 3 years or hand it back and get a new one all over again). It's been amazing.

>dOn'T bUy a nEw cAr hurrrRRrdrr
don't listen to these retards. i bought a brand new tacoma over a decade ago for 25k and it is still worth 15k.

>>527726199
Don't buy anything made after 2020. The coofdemic lockdown shenanigans really affected the build quality of everything.

>>527754589
The difference is cars built back then are better than new cars are now. You can stop being dumb at any time.

>>527726421
No it won't. I bought an 04 scion for 2k. 120k miles. Little banged up, but fine, nice custom sound system. Four evap codes, unregisterable. I have spent 300 bucks on repairs and put 40 thousand miles on it since '22. Know what you're buying. Be willing to learn how to repair your own junk. Learn to diagnose issues. Buy something some dumb bimbo banged up on wine coolers and traded in for a mercades the moment the dealership quote her 3k in extra work after they repaired her last back up into a telephone pole. My car had a brand new transmission.

>>527754849
buy a 7.3 godzilla and i bet it doesnt lose that much value in 10 years

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>>527725807

Get a good japanese shitbox, MANUAL if youre not a faggot. Your father is right. Getting a new car is goyslop brainwashing. Would you rather get brainwashed by jews or your father. Choose wisely. Pic related, Ive driven the same model for the past 17 years.

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<<<—JPM (Epstein's banker kek) and the NYFed’s largest primary dealer and issuer of our currency, just fucked taxpaying American citizens looking for a car, desperate illegal hispanic immigrants and boomer investors all in one FRAUD!

JPM robbing illegal immigrants in the US with super high rate Tricolor loans, while also undercutting American citizens' ability to purchase cars.
JPM and Barclays using ITIN numbers to fleece desperate immigrants.
Then these two NYFed primary dealers are about to fleece investors out of billions, too, b/c they also sold these ridiculous subprime car loans as ABSs (asset-backed securities) kek.
https://www.livemint.com/companies/company-results/jpmorgan-fifth-third-among-banks-facing-losses-tied-to-tricolor-11757470534768.html


>enabling illegal immigration
>NYFed primary dealers
>new Dallas/Texas financial exchange and its 'value chain'
>increased rates for auto loans
>increased car prices
>US fucking government working directly to undermine the American middle class (of every fucking color, too)

I am going to say that JPM is an equal-opportunity fraudster, as the largest dealer of US debt and the bankrupt NYFed's biggest owner, JPM WILL ROB FUCKING ANYONE, it has no DEI preferences. So, in this way, JPM is very equitable.

>>527725807
Rent, lol.

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>>527757559
JPM had the nerve to call these predatory subprime car loans "social bonds"

>>527729326
people who arent financially literate spend beyond their means and get into debt.

>>527725807
Cars are also (another) jewish trick to squeeze more money out of the goyim. Try buying a used car, cash, don't do monthly payment shit. A car is essentially a lifelong investment because you're not allowed to ride a bike in the US, you must pay the car jew mafia.

>>527747989
the landcruiser 79 is one of the best 4x4s ever made, but its expensive

>>527729326
There is hardly one. Most of the cars are sold from the manufacturers to the dealer organization and then kept there until they can be marked down until they are sold off at a loss or tiny margin. Another big batch goes to car rental companies and for business leasing. Private buyers hardly buy a car right off the assembly line anymore.

>>527726421
You have to write off the car over the years you own it and compare that sum, dude.

>>527725807
Dumb or worth it move to get a brand new tesla? Or should I get a used one? Or buy another 3-4k shitbox?
None. 10k corolla/camry depending on how fat you are

>>527725807
Don't buy american, and don't buy from an american, definitely don't buy from a nigger, russian, eastern european, spic, arab or paki indian. You all neglect cars, or fuck around with them. You don't want a car that has been neglected, or fucked around with "But bro I upgraded the bushings, blacked out the windows, upgraded the lights so they blind everyone, stage 4'd the ecu, dropped 10k on them rims, bought new colour inserts for the dash, shit is fire bro" ....no I want the stock car, maintained to manufacturer spec you fucking dick head.

Buy approved used from the manufacturer, and avoid those that have used as company cars. You will pay more, but you will (should) get a quality car, shitty cars are turned down by the manufacturer, they sell them on, who sell them on. "I worked for a dealer bro, we never checked them" you worked for a shitty dealer.

>>527726421
i think what people are realizing is the japs build the most reliable engines by far. and oem replacement parts are cheap. some toyota engines on taxis have clocked over 1 million kilometers and still keep running.

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>>527725807
I bought this car with a salvage title for 4k including the cost to repair in 2016 with like 6k miles. its a 2015 altima sl, great beator car in the winter and had no issues other than wear and tear items like brakes, tires and etc.

It's funny when car paymenttoids shit on auction cars when all my vehicles are owned in cash and I literally buy them for pennies through a friend who has his own dealership.

The real black pill are no salt states copart or iaai cars.

The amount I've saved on cars has is the main reason why i have the wealth i do today.

I have a chevy 1500 for 8k 2017 100k miles and a turbo diesel cummins for 17k ootd 2019 fully loaded with the alpina sound system.

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>I can't afford a reliable c-ACK!

>>527759518
>FRONT PASSENGER TIRE 31 PSI
Sort your fucking shit out.

>>527747989
I want a taco but fuck man they are expensive

>>527759518
>front right underinflated
That would be illegal here in Germany.
Why is that legal in America?

>>527725807
>>527726199
Dont buy french!

>>527725807
Until you are bringing home 8-10k per month you should not consider a new car…and when you get there, put down at least 30-50%. You can only afford a shitbox right now. You do not want to be spending 60% of your take home on your rent and car (payment, insurance, gas, maintenance, etc).

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>>527725807
A brand new car makes no sense at all from an economical perspective. The loss in value is the highest in the first year even if the car is still in mint condition. If I wanted to buy a "new" car I would always prefer a one-year-old "employee car" with low mileage. If I wanted to save as much money as possible I would - again - buy a Japanese car with moderate mileage and full service history from some retired boomer.

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>>527759996
Nigger who changed my winter tires didnt clean the bead and had a leak, car was sitting for a bit and didnt realize it and i just had it fixed lol

thats why you should only let people you know touch your shit, never again letting rando shop

>>527760299
the highest IQ way to buy a new car:
>save the entire sum of money for the new car
>finance the new car at a low interest rate
>invest the sum of money in stocks at a higher rate of return than the interest the car finance costs you

>>527726421
My 2003 needed about 4-5k in maintenance over the last two years. It's just what happens. Of course the ten years before that cumulatively the costs were maybe 2k total.
Either way it beats the shit out of putting down 30k or whatever now.

>>527760445
I don’t disagree. Many people won’t be in that position though so if you are going to get a new car, big down payment and pay it off as soon as possible so you can start building that car fund again. Can’t believe the amount of people I see that finance new and only put 0-10% down.

>>527760647
>Can’t believe the amount of people I see that finance new and only put 0-10% down.
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>>527725807
Buy a used Toyota

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>>527759769
> Toyota Avensis
Incredibly reliable car. Low maintenance.
Would buy for that price if < 120k km.

>>527760936
This. And put the saved bucks in some ETF FTW.

>>527760936
I considered recently. Was shopping used Toyota and Lexus. It would have been about 20k to get a newer Camry with 50-80k miles on it. I got a new one 30k out the door and just put 20k down. Will pay it off in a year with about 5-10k miles on it. There are some deals out there on used Toyota and Lexus but very hard to find.

>>527726421
You’re fucking retarded then xD