>>527731931
Trump is an orange nigger

>>527731931
So how exactly would this "stop people from voting"? Or does he mean illegal immigrants, dogs and the dead?

>>527732777
None of these groups vote. The Trump regime and conservative organizations spent millions investigating these claims and had to admit they had no evidence when they actually went to court.

>>527733067
Quite right. So who then will be stopped from voting by doing this?

>>527733084
Based logician. OP utterly destroyed.

>>527733084
Why nationalize them under the false pretext of fraud?

>>527733505
To create a standard national system for elections that are both free and verifiable allowing you all to vote and have full confidence in the result. No more protracted legal battles or storming the capital because people simply don't trust how it is done right now.

>>527733597
>To create a standard national system
Trump said in only 15 places.
>The Republicans should say, ‘We want to take over.’ We should take over the voting, in at least, many, 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting.”

>>527733597
>No more protracted legal battles or storming the capital because people simply don't trust how it is done right now.
Why are pretending that Trump won't just falsely claim election fraud (again) as soon as republicans lose the midterms even with nationalized election?

>>527731931
He is not wrong you know

>>527733067
>and had to admit they had no evidence when they actually went to court.
>implying 99% of the cases were allowed within a country mile of the evidentiary phase
lol. Those in power simply don't have to hear cases they don't want to because of the ripeness/standing/laches/mootness gambit. In spring the matter isn't ripe enough. In summer you lack standing to bring the case. In fall you were too late and it's an undue burden on the defendant. And by winter the whole matter is moot :^)

>>527733702
Nationalising elections would mean just that. Elections, either all or at least the ones pertaining to the federal government, would be a Federal competence either directly running them through some new national body (perhaps similar to the Electoral Commission here) or regulating how they are conducted locally.

>>527733706
If he does you can then point him at his fancy new agency who then show him that no actually, it was all above board.

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>>527733890
>then point him at his fancy new agency who then show him that no actually, it was all above board.
He doesn't actually believe there is fraud, he's just a sore loser who will do anything to win.

>>527733982
If there is really no fraud then his changes to ensure no fraud (and catch it if there is) this would more support your case against him than his own claims of fraud again you.

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>>527731931
>trump
>fighting 15 states in the court at once

>>527734042
I case is already supported as there is zero evidence of fraud in the first place.

>>527734178
People don't trust that though. There are far too many "irregularities".

>>527731931

>He will do anything to stop people from voting.
>Like having people vote

>>527734212
>People don't trust that though
By "people" you mean just the righ and only because Trump falsely claimed there was fraud. They will never trust republicans losing no matter what. Literally nothing will change their mind.

>>527734342
A great many people didn't trust Biden winning and then again people didn't trust Trump winning after that either. Clearly trust in American elections has broken down. This way, with everywhere doing it the same, if you get "irregularities" they can no longer be handwaved away as just your quirky mismatch of election methods. Lots of "irregularies" in this one particular area means you go there and you work out what they have been doing wrong to get such weird numbers.

>>527733067
>>527733706
>>527733982
>>527734178

>There is no fraud
>Oh ok cool we will place that system to be sure there is no fraud.
>Wait no we don't need that system because there is no fraud.
>There is no problem to have the better against fraud system if there is no fraud then.
>NO THERE IS NO FRAUD WE DONT WANT THE ANTIFRAUD SYSTEM
>kys
>2026 paper and mail ballots btw.

I'd trust more. China's or Russians elections at this point at least you know they have control over the system they use even if rigged.

>>527731931
Aren't government elections supposed to be national? Why would it be international?

>>527734470
>There is no fraud
Correct. That's why despite him saying there was for years, there has been zero evidence to support there was.

>>527734544
I'll let you in on a secret, there has been fraud committed in the US Presidential election since before the Civil War.

>>527734544
Cool very good, no problem with the change then. Even better to tell him haha you lost with your own system.

>>527733505
to create the same standard present in every other first world country on the fucking planet.

>>527734674
many non first world even.


BUT THERE IS NO FRAAAAAAUD

>>527734733
>BUT THERE IS NO FRAAAAAAUD
There isn't which is why Trump hasn't been able to prove there is.

>>527734859
Ok no problem of changing the system then. Glad you agree.

I also remember some other things that were not able to prove so they didn't happened.

Pizzagate
Epstein clients
Mkultra
Northwood

>>527734470
The joke is that the previous owner of the store is called Chuck so if you replace "Sneed" with "Chuck" you get "Chuck's Feed & Seed".

>>527731931
Total state of the mutt. Still believing their votes matter. BOTH SIDES ARE CONTROLLED PUPPETS YOU ABSOLUTE RETARDS!

>>527733854
No it wouldn't. You don't "nationalize" elections by seizing control of districts you claim without proof are rigged against you. You by definition implement a national program (which would still be bad enough).
>>527733813
They did. The likes of Powell and Giuliani stated in Court they have no evidence of what they were claiming.

>>527734470
Republicans already have election observers in each polling place. Trump won every swing state in 2024. There is no meaningful amount of fraud.

>>527735583
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>>527734469
Nationalised elections with everywhere all doing it the same way by the same rules means that there is nowhere to hide in the noise for fraudsters. If you start seeing hotspots of irregularities then you go over there and investigate because it should all be regular by design.

>>527734674
So why exclusively in 15 jurisdictions under a false pretext? Almost like the goal is to actually rig them.

>>527735662
The reason a minority of people doubted the 2020 election was because Trump and his cronies lied that it was stolen from them. Basically no one doubted the 2024 election wasn't fair, and if these elections were rigged, Trump would have never been allowed to win in the first place. He doesn't want a reasonable compromise, such as making Election Day a federal holiday/every state adopting voter ID, he wants to directly interfere in jurisdictions that vote against him so he can rig the elections for his Israel First minions.

>>527735789
Even you admit that there was doubt about the election - From both sides now even. Clearly America does not trust its own elections.

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>>527735658
Any side winning doesn't mean numbers are correct

Nothing to worry since there's no real fraud maybe some honest mistakes. It's not that one side is going to have 10 million votes disappear.....again

>>527731931
You guys are so sad at this point.
>Oh no he wants only legal citizens to vote so the US citizens vote is not disenfranchised.
>This is so evil
You guys have reached levels of retardation that shouldn't be possible.
Like literal animals without the ability to speak show higher levels of cognitive ability than you guys.

>>527735844
There are people who believe every election is fake if their side doesn't win. The only reason a significant amount (still the minority of US citizens) of people believed the 2020 election was stolen was because of Trump's lies. Giving him the power to rig elections in certain jurisdictions is not how you alleviate this, it's having elections the next cycle, which he won. Instead of just being honest, he's still lying despite winning again and you are justifying his lies that his lawyers admitted are not grounded in reality.
>>527735875
Your graph is fake news. Kamala received 75,000,000 votes in 2024 and Trump received 77,000,000. This is only 2.5% lower turnout than 2020, which had boosted turnout due to the pandemic.

EPSTEIN IS,N'T DEAD.

>>527736129
No people did not just believe that 2020 was rigged because Trump said so. They believed it was so due to the numbers it produced being extremely "irregular". For example Joe Biden apparently getting more votes than Obama and then 4 years later all these voters just vanishing into thin air.

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>>527736129
Not sure if you are pretending to be a nigger or you actually are one.

>>527731931
>it's bad when republicans do it
it's all so tiresome

>>527736240
Makes total sense desu
Trump is so shit that people come out to vote against him in droves

>>527736310
And then vanished when Trump won the next again election.

>>527736310
The fuck is this flag even nigger xD

>>527736335
They forgot or got lazy. They'll come out to vote against him again.

>>527736414
>They all came out to vote because they hate Trump but then decided to just let Trump win the next time
Bullshit

>>527733067
The courts dismiss charges, like they've been doing for everything the left has been found guilty of, including in Minnesota. Judges are going to get the rope like you, bitch. The election numbers speak for themselves. over 7 million voters disappeared without mail in ballots.

>>527736240
The population increased in the 12 years between the 2008 and 2020 elections, if you weren't aware. And for the record, Harris' 6 million vote decline is not unprecedented. Bush received 12,000,000 more votes in 2004 than he did in 2000. His father received 9,000,000 less in 1992 than in 2008. In her case, it was primarily because of independents and minorities swinging heavy to Trump from 2000.

>>527736247
I didn't deny Biden received 81,000,000 votes. Read the post again, ESL

>>527736495
>It was just population increase but then 4 years later all these people evaporated like *poof* just gone

>>527736442
What's hard to believe about this? The Republicans are going to get shitstomped in the midterms, and those are mostly local elections.

>>527733505
To make it easier to convince you to take the mark.

>>527736495
2020/2024 was likely the only time the total votes cast dropped

>>527736453
>The courts dismiss charges
Yeah, typically after his lawyers changed their story when under threat of perjury and claimed they didn't have any evidence of fraud.
>The election numbers speak for themselves. over 7 million voters disappeared without mail in ballots.
Only about 3,000,000 less people voted in 2024 than in 2020, and this is typical. 2012, for example, saw a similar drop from 2008.

>>527736527
6 million voters disappeared between Biden and Kamala ? 8 million of the total election between the two elections ?

Stop pretending to be stupid.
You lost.
You keep losing.
Every single day you lose from every side possible, either it's elections, laws, changes, ice, Epstein files confirming the whole globohomo agenda to the lowest of plebs, you name it.
Faggot niggers and kikes your days were numbered. You are literally getting steamrolled on your own rigged game. Live as you like and lead a low life till your old days or get flattened like a cartoon pancake by the steamroller.

This shit I pretend to be stupid shit ain't even working on your own people anymore. Otherwise you wouldn't lose 6 million voters. Since those were real voters.

>>527736442
I can tell you as an American that he's absolutely right. While people did hate him in 2020, they voted him out of office primarily because of his bungling of COVID and the BLM riots. The hatred for him in his second term is much stronger on a personal level now and it's increasingly non-partisan. His disapproval numbers with independents in particular is unprecedented this century other than Bush during the Great Recession.
>>527736532
Again, the same decline was seen from 2020 to 2024 as 2008 to 2012. It doesn't mean it was stolen.

>>527736944
It has lead a lot of people not to trust American elections and that's a really bad thing so clearly electoral reform is sorely needed to restore confidence in American democracy.

>>527737012
Nah, the fact that dipshit won again proves there is no fraud.

>>527737223
Really really bad thing. Restoration of confidence sorely needed or else it will lead to people saying "fuck democracy. Doesn't work anyway. Get the guns".

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>>527733084
Ok, now imagine the Democrats proclaiming they want to "take over elections" in select regions of the country, that they "felt they won, but were told they didn't".

>>527737337
Nationalisation would be everywhere wouldn't it? Rather than just one region. I agree that if it was just in one state rather than all of them it would defeat the purpose of doing it at all.

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>>527731931
This. Trump is a pedophile who supports other pedophiles, and he supports pedophile money, and people who create pedophile money, and they conspire to destroy legitimate money. Thats a long label I know, we call them "jews" for short.

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>>527733505
Your a nigger

>>527737558
Trump goes to bitcoin conferences but he doesnt go to Ripple events. Am I the only one who's noticed? You're either in the pedophile jew network or the patriot American network.

>>527736495
>14 posts by this ID
Kill yourself faggot

>>527733067
>had to admit they had no evidence when they actually went to court
When? The only thing I've ever heard that all cases were dismissed out of hand and no court cases were ever conducted.

>>527731931
You look like a faggot

>>527736414
Shut up nigger Jew or I’ll kill your family

>>527731931
>aryan gigachad
dude looks like an old dog, and not the gallant kind but the kind that eats kibbles and sniffs ass

>>527737274
I think the restoration of confidence will be what happens after 2028, when a lot of these criminals you're simping for go to jail.
>>527737613
Only from the waist down, and 2024 ultimately only had 3 million fewer votes than 2020.

>>527737663
Nope.
>>527737743
https://time.com/5914377/donald-trump-no-evidence-fraud/

>>527738862
You aren't taking this seriously. This one if not addressed could break the USA.

>>527738504
Least unhinged MIGAtard.
Don't forget to buy Trump's latest memecoin, with 25% of all proceeds donated to Israel.

>>527731931
Fun fact this guy wants to be ruled by Somalis so he chucked away his White card and his opinion are hereby moot.