the people doing this have been doing it regularly since 19 so have no real frame of reference to compare it to. theres an actual almost species distinct divide between incels and sex havers. when a girl wont let you hold her hand the idea of doing that with one is so incomprehensible we might as well be aliens from another planet.

>>83828230
AHHHHHH I NEED THIS

>>83828230
i soullessly fucked once before i got a gf and its very different.

i cant have sex without catching feelings. i think this is true for a lot of guys that dont have sex frequently. every time feels important and special.

>>83828283
>bonding mechanism causes bonding
shocker.

>>83828283
its insane to me that normies eventually break that. i fucked two girls ever and i still have to repress my simp instincts when a girl gives me the time of day.

>>83828283
Its funny how common this is for men and how women don't get it at all.
Actually it's just sad, I hate the demiurge.

>>83828309
some guys just breeze through women like its nothing special. i think its correlated to how often you have sex and/or when you started having sex.
lots of sex makes individual acts of sex leas special.

I sometimes wonder if it's worth it to have casual sex just to lose your virginity. I really doubt I'll ever get a real gf but I've had a few opportunities to fuck a random girl.
I had a BPD demon that wanted to take my virginity last month.

It feels the same as casual sex. I've been in love and just fucked randoms. Female here

>>83829310
>woman admits to being a sociopath
many
such
cases

>>83829337
Holding women to higher moral standards much
You wouldn't care if a guy posted that

>>83828230
Soulless fucking is fun and I feel that people look down on it a little too often. Sex with no strings attached doesn't have to make you feel mad afterward. It can just be a fun way to pass the time. Nothing more.

Sex with someone you love is really special though. It's a spiritual thing. At least for the first 3 weeks. After that it starts to feel like the aforementioned stringless sex, just with someone you happen to live with. But those first 3 weeks are mindmelting.

>>83828230
It feels amazing and unfortunately nothing can compare. Not to mention there is very little porn of it.

>>83828242
Its not a species divide, its more like you feel validated and to get to the relationship/sex haver phase you need to have a eureka moment. Once you have the eureka moment you will see that it isnt so hard, and simply having sex for the physical aspect is kinda meh. This is what normies mean when they say "just be confident" because you get confidence as a result of having that moment of understanding. No one, not even myself can explain it or how to get there.

>>83828283
Catching feelings during sex inst the same as sexo with a spouse or long term bf/gf

>>83828330
Its because they have experienced it and it isnt this huge mountain to mentally climb anymore.

>>83828283
Hell I can't make out without catching feelings. Almost killed myself last year cause of this.

>repeatedly checks herself in the camera
If only she knew, you could ask her.

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>>83828283
So would it feel intimate and romantic if Pierre Woodman roughly fucked you in the ass?

>>83829364
we'd look down on a guy saying this as well
shut your mouth post tits, and make sure any guy you meet knows what you're about so he can avoid you

>>83829310
This makes a lot of female behavior start to make sense. Women are pretty fucked up.

>>83829411
>Its not a species divide
It is. Some people get it, some don't. I've been in exactly one relationship and was never able to get another one.

>>83829622
>warn us so we can manipulate you better
No? Lol I will say the right words to make shit as easy for me as possible. Lucky for men that usually means no drama for either of us. Unless he pokes his nose where it doesn't belong. I'm a great gf just don't dig too deep.

>>83829430
i feel you. havent kissed a woman in, oh, a decade.
regrets mounting.

>>83829667
That guy has a point. You sound kinda evil.

>>83829667
you've had 50+ cocks inside you haven't you

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>>83828230
>What is sex with connection and love like and how does it compare to soulless fucking?
I've only had paid sex, which I can barely perform well in, so I will never know.

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>>83829536
dude is so hairy and fat, looks like a dirty pig.

>>83829718
I'm literally just a normal person just not a doormat with no filter like you prefer

>>83828230
It feels world better than just lust alone

>>83828230
I'm never going to do this because I have a bald spot and she'd be looking right at it in this position. But I was an incel before the hair loss so it was never going to happen anyways.
>>83828242
We really are different species.

>>83828230
>What is sex with connection and love like and how does it compare to soulless fucking?
its the same thing
the only difference is just how active the girl is
if shes a starfish even if you love her its boring and feels empty
if shes a prostitute but shes REALLY into it, then it feels just like fucking someone you love and care about

its purely perception and experience. anyone who says otherwise is a virgin or only had sex once.

>>83830065
and yet hes fucking and you arent, its a crazy world out there
whats your excuse?

>>83828230
Fapping feels better sexo feel, like eating, nothing special, bit your need It.

36 fucking years...

>>83831699
Not a peep..

>>83828273
True, I didn't understand why people were so obsessed with sex until I had a relationship for the first time. Way better than some one-night stand with a stranger

>>83831114
finally, someone who said it and understands.
I thought I was crazy for thinking this. And now someone that said it, has clear any doubt that if I was insane or not for thinking this

>>83831114
>>83832095
Not true - I've fucked hookers who were super into it

Doing it with my girlfriend is way better

>>83832101
If I found out my bf fucked a hooker I'd cut his dick off in his sleep and go to mexico

>>83832111
Basically one degree off paying for of content.

>>83832130
Don't you have a female anon to harass about her dead dog and make up lies so she hits you up oh wait it failed lol

>>83832111
Its legit disgusting. I ask men upfront if they've ever paid for sex, if they say yes, or i dont believe their answer, id cut them off immediately.

Disgusting

>>83832162
It's not really any different from him fucking tinder women. Prostitutes and tinder women essentially have the same bodycount. Hell, I am pretty sure prostitutes have less bodycounts. Because, they overcharge for sex. And only a select few only can afford it. So, let me ask you this.

>>83832162
>paying for sex
I was desperate and on borders of being mentally ill. Why is it so wrong?

>>83832182
>>83832174
Its one of my boundaries, i wont engage with you.

>>83832174
>not really any different
Yes it is. One is rape one is consensual sex.
>b-b-but paying for drinks counts a-
No it doesn't
Johns are rapists
You are a rapist
Carry that weight

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I don't wanna pay for sex because I don't want to realise what I've missed out on all my life

>>83832190
>Its one of my boundaries, i wont engage with you.
Even on 4chan, you're still foid'n. Do you not see how pathetic that is? You won't even address dissent in the least consequential environment possible where you don't even know if you're talking to a fat old Native American lady and never will.

Plus you use "i" like a tranny. Toxic feminimity is a hell of a drug holy shit

>>83832218
You pay desperate women to sleep with you, its exploitation and i strongly condemn you

I'm just a loser and not some kind of lecher, but I want her to tie me up and demean me and tell me I'm not allowed to cum and tease me relentlessly while she makes me pleasure her and never touches my dick.

>>83832150
No the female are non was actually a guy larping as a girl who likes to make up LARP characters too manipulate others perceivement of me. Really fucking lame. He has a really small penis and a bad back

>>83829364
women are, by default, treated as if their morality is higher.

You just hit the ground harder, sweaty, because you were propped up to a higher position.

>>83832301
Fat narc faggot wth narcissistic injury lol

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>>83832309
*Holds up mirror for you to look into*

>>83832324
Maria was 17 by your own admission btw, pedophile narc.

>>83832271
>its exploitation
No it's not. Sex workers voluntarily have sex to make money. They can quit whenever they want.

Those who are being exploited, if given the opportunity to not be, will.

Sex workers choose to keep their jobs instead of just being a normal wagie who works a normal widely available retail job, so they're not being exploited.

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>>83828230
you dont want to leave when its over, you dont want her to stop talking, you dont want to stop listening to how her stupid ass boring day was, you want to feel her cold sking and steam it with your volcanic blood pumped body, you are not disgusted by the smell of her asshole or feet flooding the room, you want to smell behind her ears, her armpits, press your lips against hers not even telling her you love her just tracing the words with your mouth on hers, after 3 months you realize she is as stupid, shallow and dumb as the other girls out there because she was raised by instagram, twitter, tiktok and not the love emanating from her family thus you need to leave, searching for another hole to jump in and crawl up again.

>>83832208
You're not getting younger.
Just do it. Don't let regrets mount.

It's like you really need to get better with your LARP. Why would I give a fuck about the girl whos boyfriend killed her dog. I only have eyes for Maria so it doesn't make any sense what the narc asshat is insinuating saying that I lied.

Not to mention when they admitted that it was a same fag larp after being figured out.

Also
1. You don't know the definition of pedophile
2.maria was legal at the time with me.

>>83832333
you can never change her mind on this, anon. you could pose the scenario to her in various ways addressing every single ethical concern she has, and she will still have an issue with it, defaulting to "it's just gross, okay?!"

it's kinda like how they seethe about age gap relationships.

>>83832392
Maria is 22 and your gay screenshots from when you were grooming her are from 2021. She ghosted you because you're a narc pedophile.

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>>83828230
How does one even get the self confidence to do this the first time

>>83832524
I never said she was 22. That one so she post says that the person is 22, but if you search the username it also lists a bunch of other ages all within the same year.

I also never groomed Maria.

Marie and I truly loved each other and I made for each other.

But you wouldn't understand that because it doesn't fit your narrative

So why don't you go and put on a dress and act like you're a girl whose boyfriend killed your dog like a fucking creep some more

You should also look up the word pedophile and figure out the definition because you are illiterate

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>>83828309

yea fuck the demiurge x2

>>83832574
You're so made for each other that she ghosted you 5 years ago because she broke out of your grooming and has never contacted you since. Narc retard.

>>83828283
Chad and all women can doit, you are just a pathetic low tier subhuman male that gets pussy so rarely that you cant help but to fall in love, anon.

>>83828230
>soulless fucking
You make the mistake of assuming most people have souls or live enriched lives.

>>83832729
>soulless fucking
that just sounds like good fucking to me.
animalistic fucking

>>83832524
Finding out Mike is a pedo is the least surprising revelation on this board

>>83828230
idk I've only had sex with prostitutes but it is nicer if they let you kiss them

>>83828230
>sex with connection
Yhea, that's why they filmed themselves.

I cannot say on the soulless fucking since I've only had passionate love with my spouse. Holy shit, does this feel so much better than just masturbating. Then cuddling with them afterwards makes you feel like heaven. It's the best feeling I ever had.

>>83832208
It's worse. You're gonna realize how much time you wasted worrying about something that's really no big deal at all.

>>83828230
nothing theyre the same, stop listening to what women and faggots write on the internet

when I fuck Nezuko Kamado it's out of love and the sex is mindblowing, unlike that lustful mechanical sex you see in porn.

>>83828230
Sex with a man you love and connect with is amazing, beyond what I can describe with words. You never forget your first time together.

>>83833588
stfu you brown femoid

>>83833588
This. I have nothing else to compare it to, but my god my first time with my spouse was the best ever. Sex now doesn't even compare to the first time even though it is still great.

>>83832707
The fact is Maria and me are made for each other and that is just how it is. If you don't understand that's okay. Don't understand adios

>>83832340
this made me remember stuff, fuck u anon
but also fuck my life
why is this normal??

>>83832190
If i pay for dinner and then we bang, you would be the same thing as the hooker.

>>83832208
I just rather keep the money and jerk off with a banana peel.

>>83828230
It's warm, you feel safe and content, not just there for pleasure

you are quite literally connected in body and soul at that time and it's even better when in an intimate position, the one in the video is my favourite position, he hugs me and I feel so so so so safe with him, he is the man I love and the man I am ready to dedicate my entire being to, and he feels the same way

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>>83828242
Because I AM an alien, man!

>>83834507
woahhh no way, coool

>>83834506
Exactly. I'm having this with her.

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>>83828230
Soulless fucking is far hotter, especially with someone you hate.

>>83834490
That would be my choice, raping a sex worker isnt her choice. Just because you pay a pimp doesnt make it right

>>83834506
>It's warm, you feel safe and content, not just there for pleasure
peak

>>83828309
>>83828283
>>83832688
I think its this matrix's way of assuring that the species continues on indefinitely. If you prefer to call it nature then the point still applies. It has to be men that have the stronger feelings because its men that are the workers and builders of the world and society. Nature just needs women to do a competent enough job at raising children. They are just a womb. Portals to bring more people in. Definitely very important of course and plenty are needed, but its male energy that this matrix/nature/demiurge is really after. It NEEDS male energy and emotion. This is why the best thing you can do as a guy is nofap/noporn semen retention. Its the only way you can ever give the fuck you to the demiurge.