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Shine Bright Like a Diamond Edition
It's Momcest Monday! You guys know what it is all about, share pictures, thoughts, and stories of your own lovely mom, MILFs, or any other family you fancy. Whether it's your sister, brother, dad, aunt, cousin, etc go ahead and post about them. Discussion of the biology, poIitics, and psychology of consanguinamory (consensual incest relationships) is encouraged. Cucks, cuckspamming, fetishspamming, simping, and schizophrenic spamming ARE NOT ALLOWED!
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Does anybody have anything they wanna share?
@r anon
@rlg
@Brosis
@Ass-Masseur
@confession anon
@OP-M
@resort-anon
@errands anon
@momfem/auntfem
@Throatmom-anon
@Gothmom anon
@Improve anon
@punic anon
@D-cup anon
@Silver Fox anon
@Cuzcbro
@Dexter
@Hapa-chan
@Abusemom anon
@Mine anon
@Felix
@Enon
@Neet-chan
@Boobs guy
@Escobar
@Plankfem
@Nomi
@Uncle anon
@Jocasta
@Blackanon
@Convention Bro
@Winemom anon
@kels
@Poetbro
@Autismom
@Imoutanon
@MomGF anon
@Grievingmom anon
@Australiaunt
@Anonymouse
@Sisabled
@Tennismom anon
@Painmeds-chan
@Nudistfem
@Drawanon
@Assslapanon
@Sisterdam
@Mazakonius_PhD
@Needysis
@Any new people
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>>84645254
I'm attracted to my mom who looks very similar to me. While thinking about my dissimilar looking sister like that is enough to make me gag. I've lived most of my life with sis unlike mom so that might be it.
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>It would be literally impossible to determine the truth since the two taboos of infidelity and incest would need to be exposed but I wonder how often father-daughter incest isn't actually incest at all as a consequence of paternity fraud?
>Or for siblings where their effective relatedness is between I think 30-70%, I wonder how their similarity affects their attraction, half-sibs too but likely with greater variance though they often aren't raised in the same sort of intimate environment.
>Maybe one could use some sort of animal behaviour and genetics study to evaluate sexual attraction scaled against genetic similarity. I saw a paper using facemorphs of siblings rated for attraction, perhaps that field is more explored than my shallow reading?
>>84645359
I deleted it because I wasn't sure it was relevasnt but you were too eagle eyed...so
Yeah, obviously that's where the momcest angle really comes in because it's not possible to maternity fraud and the gene split is always dead 50:50 so whatever causes that attraction is clearly more fundamental.
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>>84645156
My Mom began to ask me about what she should wear. No we dont fuck or have any inappropriate body contact but since her divorce she likes to show off her body to me. I dont complain because her Tits are massive
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I did actually did it.
I actually got a bit more forward with my brother during the sleepover.
And well...
Things escalated...
I don't know what to think. Part of me really really really liked it but it can't be fair to him.
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>>84645704
you cant just make a post like that and not elaborate.
what happened? tell me details???
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>>84645946
I rubbed my butt against him, kinda guided his hands to my breasts and we kissed and...
I sucked his cock...
I don't know what I was thinking.
I really really liked it. But after he finished he didn't want to talk. He just said let's sleep.
In the morning he acted like nothing happened. He didn't bring it up. I was too embarrassed to say anything.
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>>84646474
I loved it. I hated it that I loved it.
I have been kinda sorta gooning here to that memory but also feeling kind of guilty about it.
And also paranoid. What if he brings it up?
But I wished it could have lasted longer. It felt so dirty and wrong in a good way. Like I felt so excited about the whole "I should not be doing this" feeling.
Also I was kind of inexperienced.
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>>84646549
Does that matter? I guess I'm kinda cute, not like kawaii egirl cute but I'm alright I guess. Like idk if I ever was anyone's crush or anything. I mean I'm not fat so I guess there's that.
I won't go into further detail cus I feel really paranoid atm.
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>>84646632
What makes you think this wasn't a one time thing?
>>84646659
I don't know. I won't bring it up. Unless I really feel it.
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>>84645156
wull, we stawpped loyin ta choina YEEERS ago, m8!
'ere's what a proper mum looks loik... image from the internet; a mum with a nice beard... imagine her cooking and cleaning for you before she ...............for a noice blowie
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>>84646525
Go ahead and fill this out real quick, we gotta finish your paperwork before you join /mcg/ full time
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>>84646525
>But I wished it could have lasted longer. It felt so dirty and wrong in a good way. Like I felt so excited about the whole "I should not be doing this" feeling.
>Also I was kind of inexperienced.
Get some nice clothes for summer, your brother is going to have a lot of fun taking them off.
Mix up the cute and sexy but make sure they're easy to remove without being damaged.
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>>84642230
Your sister is a fujoshi then? I'm not an expert, but I get the mindset behind the fujoshi gay dynamics, even in the shows you mentioned I could see how she could create gay undertones out of nothing. Still, it's a nice thing that you can enjoy watching anything together. I'd still support the Lost recommendation it has a bit of everything.
>>84647362
What kinds of traits could be replaced on the bingo that are exclusive to sisters? Single mother, Cellulite, and Mom Jeans are the only ones that I think could be replaced, everything else can still apply to sisters.
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I used to be active in a bunch of different smut RP threads, so every time I see this thread I think about contributing. Then I see this >>84645157 and change my mind. What a bizarre fucking scene you guys have created with this general.
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>>84647610
>Single mother
Virgin
>Cellulite
Tattos/piercings
>Mom Jeans
Baggy zoomer/ironic weeb couture
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>>84647690
Expanding further there should be one box to clarify if she's the older sister, the younger sister, or if it's a rare case of twins.
Weed/vape should have its own box too.
Wine should be replaced for a broader "alcohol", wine is not typically associated with young women.
Another box to see of she's on medication, most young women are these days.
Employed/neet should be another box.
Perfect housewife/would burn the house down when trying to boil water could be another fun box.
Any more suggestions?
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>>84647785
In my mouth...
>>84647789
I don't know what I was thinking okay?
Like, I couldn't control myself...
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>>84647899
>[...] or any other family you fancy.
>Whether it's your sister, brother, dad, aunt, cousin, etc go ahead and post about them.
That could be a good idea, although would there be enough people to talk about it?
I think incest general works fine, no?
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>>84647838
>lesbian tendencies. ( I've got a theory about lesbian inclined women who like their brother)
I picked up on it with Convention Sis
And if we're going with Brosis then "Is he taken already?" should be another box
Anything else?
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>>84647918
I will never post here again if this thread became le incest general and be swarmed by larpers more so than now
Adding those lines to the OP is already revolting enough
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>>84647921
Eh, I guess I could invite him for a nice picnic or something and wear a cute sundress or something.
>>84647934
Well, I wanted to kiss him but I think he got that "post nut clarity".
I just ended up falling asleep in his arms.
Woke up before him to make breakfast.
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>>84647951
>Adding those lines to the OP is already revolting enough
I suggest the OP is cleaned up for the next thread and go back to being just about moms. I have no problem with the siblingposting that we have and I think it should still be accepted, but we shouldn't be promoting it in the OP.
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>seething over sisters
Cuckschozo I know you're here.
I know you've shifted your campaign focus from calling every b-s poster a convoluted larp to restore the golden mommy age by vanquishing the sisters from your "sanctuary".
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>>84648008
"mom bod" is only mentioned in a sexual contexts because it's too hot.
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Not momcest but me and my older sister did things for about three years while we were like, 17-20 and 20-23. She had a bad break up, I was a turbo virgin and we just got closer, starting sleeping in the same bed and things escalated. Only penetrated her twice. She met her now husband and got pregnant towards the end of it, she says there's "maybe like a 1 percent chance your niece is your daughter".
I'm sure that sounds hot but it's mostly just a weird thing we don't talk about anymore. I don't really think about it at all except for when I'm babysitting her kid and I catch myself thinking she doesn't look like my sister's husband at all.
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>>84648111
Oh, the rare older sister relationship...
It's usually better not trying to think about whether the niece is yours in that situation, you let the sleeping dogs lie and maybe joke about it when she graduates college.
What did your sister look like?
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>>84645156
Last Week's Updates
Unnamed son anon #1
>>84594828
Tennismom anon
>>84595467
Needysis
>>84595616
Poetbro
>>84596580
Brosis
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Drawanon
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Convention Bro
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D-cup anon
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Dexter
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Last Week's Updates continued
Unnamed son anon #2
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Imoutanon
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PhD anon
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Improve anon
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Unnamed son anon #3
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Unnamed brother anon
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AssSlapAnon
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>>84648151
Yeah I don't let it get to me too much, and honestly I'm glad I still get to be part of their life and my sister didn't try to cut me off or anything. I don't know if we'll ever say anything to my niece though.
My sister's on the short side, little ginger with glasses. Kinda pudgy these days but she was hot as hell when we were messing around desu.
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>>84647966
I intend this thread to be for people to discuss and ask advice for their mommy issues and incest experiences, with pictures of MILFs getting posted along the way. If you guys want to make a separate thread focused solely on MILF/GILF/Older Women pics I would support the effort. Such a thread would definitely be better than 90% of the other threads on /r9k/.
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>>84648280
>I don't know if we'll ever say anything to my niece though.
I just meant something like joking with your sister about where niece got her brains.
On the other side of it, one of the sisterfuckers here was quite surprised to find that despite how much he'd been cucking her husband the first kid wasn't his.
>short redhot redhead with glasses
A little surprised she was single.
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>>84648323
I mean I'd like to hope we can joke about it eventually, so far my sister is taking the "pretend it didn't happen" approach.
Although since you brought up cucking I'm not gonna pretend I wouldn't still do things with her if she were down, although her husband's a cool guy and I wouldn't wanna screw things up for them.
She went straight from an abusive relationship, to whatever you wanna call our thing, to dating her now-husband, it's not like she was ever completely single for long.
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>>84648396
For the first couple years I didn't wanna push the issue since she just got out of a sexually horrific relationship, plus I convinced myself actual sex would somehow be gross and way too far. Lots of oral sex and getting each other off until my 19th birthday when she asked me to put it in. Then when it was clear her relationship with her now-husband was getting serious she asked if I wanted to do it one last time. Which was around when she got pregnant.
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>>84648829
Actually scratch that I don't think it's fair since most anons aren't comfortable showing their moms, and those who are might not show their entire body/face.
We should focus on cooperation not competition, all mommies deserve love.
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>>84645157
@Poetbro
/Good Evening/
Started watching Hellsing Ultimate with Poetsis. She is intrigued, though admittedly the constant references to rape in the first few episodes are more egregious than I recalled. Hoping that tones down, as I can only say "it's from an edgier era" so many times.
Also, the other night we got tickets for a country music festival this summer. We went to the same one a fair few years back (I was third wheeling her then-boyfriend--who was actually a decent guy that I got on well with--because they really wanted me to come for some reason). There ended up being a hellish heatwave (40+ Celsius) that weekend with insane humidity. Four days, no showers, an oven of a tent, three of us to a mattress. I was a huge asshole the entire time because I didn't even really want to be there and mostly wound up whoring myself around while they went to the concerts to distract myself. One of the worst experiences of my entire life.
I really have no idea why I agreed to go again, but she was near-begging.
That said, it would just be us this time. Sharing a sweaty air mattress with Poetsis, just us two, stripped down to almost nothing to escape the heat, far from home where no one knows who we are... ._.
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I don't know if I'd exactly pin the 'fujoshi' label on her, as she isn't quite as militant/obsessive about it as those sorts, but she does like the whole boylove meme a bit too much for my tastes. I make fun of her a lot for it. I mean, I like seeing lesbians get it on about as much as the next guy, but I don't think I've ever watched a show and started imagining the women characters as lesbians, and certainly haven't sought out shows hoping for lesbian dynamics. Must be a woman thing?
Can any other /mcg/ foids attest to this and perhaps explain the fascination? Why do so many women seem unwilling to or incapable of viewing close male bonds as platonic and insist on twisting them to the romantic, even with evidence to the contrary?
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>>84648850
Tennismommy pics were absolutely incredible. Felix did end up sharing a pic of his mommy while he was here, albeit with a censored face
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/82294507/#82300877
>We should focus on cooperation not competition, all mommies deserve love.
True!
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>>84633833
Tried my hand at it pelotudo.
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>>84650122
>Sharing a sweaty air mattress with Poetsis, just us two, stripped down to almost nothing to escape the heat, far from home where no one knows who we are
Still sounds like a hellish time if another heatwave hits. Not very conducive to passionate moments
>4 days of sweat soaking into air mattress bedding
>no showers
Think I'd rather have a cold snap hit and be huddled together for warmth
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>>84645156
What does /mcg/ think of last week's poll results? Are you surprised by how populous this thread is?
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>>84651942
I think you'll have more luck talking about that in the "hags/milfs" general on /trash/. For better or worse, this general has grown really averse to that kind of discussion.
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>>84641111
>This comic
>BTTF's momcest subplot
What are some more examples of the incest version of the Grandfather Paradox?
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>>84653192
Sleeveless turtleneck never struck me as practical. In summer she would be suffocating from the turtleneck, in winter she would be freezing from the lack of sleeves. Especially in regions where the weather seasonality is potent. I'd have a hard time convincing her to wear it.
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>>84653262
I got one for my mom as a christmas gift a couple of years ago. She only wears it indoors during the winter and not that often.
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>>84653192
>dresses
I >>84653345 thought you meant a normal sweater. I've never seen a turtleneck dress, though there are some longer ones that reach down to the upper part of the thighs.
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>>84653240
Gomen! Here have two other versions
https://litter.catbox.moe/tu2bv1pjwbnwi3l0.png
https://litter.catbox.moe/5f3a6pt1ytvgy6v2.png
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>>84652981
>What are some more examples of the incest version of the Grandfather Paradox?
There's one episode of futurama where fry becomes his own grampa by going back in time, accidently killing his grand father in a nuclear test, and then having sex with his grandmother.
>>84654277
>What's the /mcg/ consensus on when a woman becomes a MILF?
Has to have a child Otherwise they're just a mature woman
~35 years old or older. If she's too young she's just a young mother or a woman with a kid
Sexy. Someone that you'd like to fuck
If she has a grand child she's a GILF
Typically has to have a sweet and doting personality on top of being sexy.
But that's just my two cents.
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>>84650122
Women do not understand the concept of friendship, non-blood brotherhood or camaraderie because their own friendships with other women are all surface level, twofaced, utilitarian and transactional.
They just cannot wrap their brains around two dudes loving each other and being willing to die for one another simply because they're good friends so in order to bring it down to their level they boil it down and simplify it to
>the peepee stick in the poopoo hole lmao
Plus it's just hot and since there's no woman in the picture you can enjoy it all you want without feeling jelly or cuckqueened
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>>84648784
I've wondered that myself, she never said what age she was the drunken sibling mess happened or if it escalated to anything other than him getting handsy and her telling him to fuck off.
I have always wondered if my attraction to her was inherited in some way.
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>>84651204
Thanks for the sweet words, anons, I'm sure if my mom were okay with me posting pics she'd be flattered she's considered attractive here. She's had a pretty long period now of feeling undesirable but I'm not about to admit I think she's hot as fuck.
No new updates on my end tho really, mom continues to lie in my bed for longer and longer at night while watching random shit on youtube with me, last night she had a yerba mate around 4pm and it kept her up until 1am so we watched spooky camping vids.
My fag friend that my mom hates went full manic last time I saw him so now she's in a
>told you so
mentality. Can't blame her at all but I am gonna try to distance myself from him more, I turned down another offer from him to hang.
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>>84656014
It would be quite a switchup.
>>84655966
T-anon what happened to your dad?
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>>84648264
I was kinda into 40k for a period in the 00s, but didn't go too far with it. My brother got me back into it a few years ago and we play sometimes when we meet up. He called me a retard for buying miniatures when he can just print them. Mom says it's all retarded but did try a game with us one time and lost interest after 2 turns.
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>>84657572
>coffin thread would get banned on /pw/
Oh ye of little faith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuQMoqu13oY
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>>84653262
Sleeveless turtlenecks (black especially) is the QUINTISSENTIAL mommy top.
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>>84658143
I was on the fence for pw, w was iffy too.
I feel like /a/, /mlp/, and /m/ are pretty solid.
/vp/ is a v board but out of the scope unless someone makes a coffin themed romhack.
still there are barely 5 boards you coudn't have a thread on
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>>84656014
The thought had occurred to me once but I look way too much like my dad for that to be the case. I think.
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Only full sibling, had two other half siblings but both were girls.
>>84656476
He got a very toxic second family after my mom and him divorced when I was 10. I don't really talk to him all that much, he kinda became bitter but I occasionally see him at the grocery store like once a month.
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>I wonder how their similarity affects their attraction
Incest is slightly higher among half-siblings but that's not taking into account shared environment. 2024 survey reported a small neg correlation between (self reported) physical resemblance and incest. But I wouldn't take the numbers at face value. I skimmed their data set and survey. Some of what the authors wrote is misleading, or just silly, especially with the sexual abuse correlate.
>study to evaluate sexual attraction scaled against genetic similarity
Yes there's research on assortative mating, homogamy, and imprinting although I'm certain that imprinting is minimal in humans and most studies are conflating that with genetic inheritance. People generally seek out those like themselves and do better when in relationships with more shared traits. A common approach is to have third parties rate the physical resemblance between a subject's opposite sex parent and their spouse.
Sexual attractiveness and sexual openness/novelty are probably the biggest factors in the cause of incestuous acts. It's not that similarity isn't a factor, but more that similarity is inherently rather high with little variation when you're discussing first degree incest. Nearly all siblings will be between 40-60% relatedness.
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>>84658646
Some probably. Although researchers are unwilling to look more closely at causes of consensual parent-offspring incest. Sibling incest, especially when younger tends to occur for more curious and experimental reasons. Less so because of strong sexual desire. Parent-offspring incest is more associated with the quality and presence of the parent's long term relationship.
I'm still certain that sexual attractiveness and sexual openness/novelty are major factors in both types of incest.
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>>84659095
>incest aversion is a midwit trait
Yes
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>>84649224
Give her a ring and I'm in.
>>84650122
From my experience, only hardcore otaku are militant enough to cause problems to other people, almost everyone else, specially the older japanese women, are chill with their opinion and keep it to themselves mostly.
I'm just a pervert that has come to understand things about BL loving women because of a past crush. I don't intend for you to force yourself to enjoy or understand her BL fascination.
>>84651919
I somehow missed this, count me on yes, please.
>>84654277
A stereotypical MILF, from my earliest exposure to them, is: a mother that looks 40+ years old.
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>>84658976
>Is there any evidence that aversion to incest follows the IQ bell curve?
I've thought about something like this, it's central to what I believe about incest, but I could be wrong.
Drug addiction and drug fueled crime are more common among low IQ people, but drug use in general and experimentation are more common among high IQ people.
>40s meth/benzos distributed to WW2 soldiers
>50s benzo use among writers
>60s psychedelics among musicians
>70s Silicon Valley founders fueled by multiple drugs and hatred of IBM
>Paul Erdos, Aldous Huxley, Richard Feynman, and of course Sigmund Freud
What they had in common was some degree of planning and a broader purpose behind what they were doing. A sense that drugs were generating new ideas, making the people involved more efficient workers, expanding minds, testing the limits of a domain, and leaving humanity behind. Didn't always work, a lot of harm caused, but the use was not thoughtless.
Average drug addicts by contrast, are often highly impulsive, untrustworthy, and struggle to think in more complex ways about anything. They just take shit because it feels good in the moment regardless of consequences. At some point they basically morph into legally protected fauna:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VM_jPpNUtsY
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>>84660061
I think there's a similar relationship between IQ and incest, but it's not quite the bell curve meme. Just a simpler spectrum. Lower IQ people avoid incest more out of instinctual sexual disgust; inbreeding avoidance in a way similar to other mammals. Higher IQ people avoid incest more out of adherence to explicit social rules. The reason being, all human societies from hunter-gatherers, to autistic Catholic countries, to caste India, have had top down complex rules about who one is or is not allowed to marry. The benefit of that is humans can better establish bonds and boundaries that scale up to giant unified groups, unlike other primates. The many rules about FBD marriage, MBD marriage, second/third cousin marriage, how to address in-laws etc. are expressions of this.
The corollary to that is that if the social rules aren't present, or they promote incest, then some humans may find it easier to engage in incest than other mammals. This would explain royal incest for example. Then there's the matter of simply ignoring/breaking the rule. Someone interested in sexual experimentation or novelty may find it easy to ignore the rule in search of a greater sexual high.
When it does happen, incest with lower IQ people more likely involves quick sex romps, one-sidedness/coercion, higher disgust, or unplanned pregnancies. Higher IQ incest involves longer/serial sex periods, fetishism, mutual discussion, planning and avoidance of consequences.
I've read enough cases where richfag elements like second properties, dual college grads (in the earlier 20th century, not today's standards), upscale events are just casually brought up. The oldest case I've posted here from the 1870s was about a well read noblewoman obsessed with her son. I'm convinced highly pleasurable, consensual incest is more common among wealthier people and I will look to prove it. Not much great data proving this right now but I'll find a way.
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>>84660068
Your reading list is probably getting a tad immense at this point, but is this book a part of it? I thought its free preview was pretty interesting
https://books.google.com/books?id=A0ZBAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA1&source=gbs_toc_r &cad=1#v=onepage&q&f=false
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>>84660530
I have it, but the more I learn the less valuable I find other people's analyses of incest. Will skim anyway. My momcest curiosity began with fictional depictions, but genuine real world occurrences are the #1 priority for now and ever.
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>>84645481
Sorry for the late response. Idk how to escalate it desu
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She wears no bra with shirts that are too thin. At least at home. Last weekend we went to the lake because of the heat and she wore a ridiculous bikini that day. I still curse myself for not bringing my phone with me
>>84653683
Dont be jealous anon
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>>84660068
Taboos act as social glue.
Yeah, fucking and breeding your relative might not be that bad if it happens rarely enough but if everyone did it societal dynamics would be in complete dissarray unless it got to the point where it was somehow normalised like the zoroastrians.
In a warped state where the chastity taboo has been partly destroyed and we see the consequences writ large I wonder what effects it has?
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>>84661298
I already do. This is what she wants after all
>>84661366
I wasnt skimpy or a micro bikini or anything. For the most part her breasts were actually covered. It was the material that made the bikini so ridiculous. It looked like it was made of some stretchy kind of material like spandex for example. I am not even sure if that was swimwear that she was wearing because her Boobs wobbled insanely while walking and even more so while running or playing in the water. Apart from me she also seemed to enjoy the attention of every other male at the lake
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If there's any moms that need a helping hand starting with daughters and just talk about some fantasies, 32 daddy dom here. Not looking to trade or talk to men.
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>Using AI to make mommy wear a sleeveless turtleneck and cute watch
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>>84661248
Not that one specifically but I've read about incest creation myths in general. My interest in writing about incest is inclusive as far back as late medieval England, when the writing is related to legal matters. Don't see much reason to look for older myths. I have a Greco-Roman work on the interpretation of dreams, some of which involve incest.
>>84661347
This all depends on how strictly incest is defined. Non-procreative sex contact isn't that impactful. Can be observed somewhat frequently in other primates, mammals, and even some human groups. Intercourse is really the major factor in considering harm, whether the harm is hereditary or psychological.
Some humans have developed effective means of non-procreative intercourse. Some have developed genetic screening. You would expect then, that the people most prone to developing or appreciating novel problem solutions in general, would also be more willing to manage the problems of incestuous intercourse.
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I moved in with my mom after my fiance cheated on me. She's been trying to cheer me up but all she's really done is make me lust after her. One of the biggest contributors is our movie nights where she clings to me in underwear and a robe, drinks too much wine and tells me secrets. Last time she confessed how much she missed having a man around and told me not to leave her alone again. Hearing that made me feel like I have a chance. Any advice on how to make her want me too?
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>>84665230
>she confessed how much she missed having a man around and told me not to leave her alone again
Make any move at all, hold her hand, rub her hip, kiss her cheek. If she's lonely and meant having a man around in a remotely sexual way you won't have to do much. What are your ages?
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>>84665555
Nice quads.
Not really history but she was the one who gave me the talk and when she did she gave me a porn mag, tissues and lotion. She also bought me refills until I was old enough to get them myself so I'd get teased for how quickly I went through them. Closest I've seen to her naked is when she takes a shower. She will walk to and from the shower in nothing but a towel. When we lived with dad they had their own bathroom in their bedroom so idk if that's just normal for her.
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>>84665744
It's a sincere question about the perceived qualities and accuracy of /mcg/ that attract people here over other places. There is no offense intended. I've asked two other incest oriented places the same thing.
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>>84665777
Divorce. Cheated on her with a younger woman and fucked off. Mom and I are working shitty part-time jobs for extra cash but we live in a pretty small house now so the alimony pretty much covers everything.
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>>84665954
I pretty much look just like him when he was younger outside of getting my mom's blue eyes. We didn't spend much time together after the divorce because I had college and my fiance keeping me busy. She still does her excise routine so I figured she was keeping her figure for dating but she said she's too paranoid about getting cheated on to date.
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>>84666054
Your mom sounds cute as heck. Are you attracted to her? If so you should definitely get her into the cuddle zone, it would do you both wonders mentally. I just wouldn't unilaterally cross the incest line. Getting more touchy with her shouldn't be difficult if you start gradually.
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>>84666079
Ofc I'm attracted to her. We're already pretty close to the cuddle zone, she sits right next to me during the movies and lays her head on my shoulder sometimes. I mentioned earlier I was going to try to hold her waist tonight so I think that's a good first step into that.
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>>84665872
One was an incest discord my e-friend was on. I don't know why or how incest is there with their policies, but the discord itself was entirely roleplay. My e-friend told me he preferred there to /mcg/ because of more identity consistent LARPing basically.
The other is a older private forum modded/adminned by a boomer I contacted on reddit. The interesting thing he tells me, is that he knows a number of mothers engaged in momcest, but they're apparently very selective about who they speak to even on a private forum. I believe it but I don't know for sure. I'm not on, and have not seen the forum itself. The boomer may in fact be an unusually talented LARPer, skilled in multi-person LARPing.
I'm aware of other places like Kindred Spirits, but I don't know how far I'll go, how many places I'll travel to with my current identity.
>>84665879
>sort the bad advice from the good.
How would you do this? Especially with a fringe, fetishized topic like incest.
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>>84666170
Cuddle zone is closer to the stuff outlined by this anon >>84665316
If you're able to do most of those you're firmly in the cuddle zone.
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>>84666233
Common sense does go a long way with incest advice. People think it's some unique thing, but once you establish that your family member is attracted to you. it's practically like any other intimate relationship. It's just better and more intense.
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>>84666197
I don't want to make this a general statement since I recognize the spectacle-driven and detached nature of image boards, but in my experience (that it is likely the exception to the rule) /mcg/ helped me genuinely improoove my relationship with mom, granted I knew when to hit the breaks, and hit em hard. I used to be a regular here now I barely post every once in a while, no persona, no peer pressure. I'm currently in a place where I can express my long buried love for mom to an extent we both find comfortable.
Don't be pushy, use your head, don't be a social and/or mental fuck up and it should be easy to sort the good from bad advice.
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>>84669757
Statistically speaking 2nd gen inbreeding should be incredibly rare unless there's some cultural input.
The cousin marriage problem persists because it's every generation.
I suspect historically though everyone was barely marrying anyone outside of maybe 5th cousins just from localised availability and pedigree collapse.
We're seeing real outbreeding effects only now.
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After some drinks she apologized to me because she'd thought I might turn out like my dad and cheat on my fiance. I said it was fine but she kept beating herself up saying she should have trusted me. Then I asked if she trusted me now. She quickly said yes and I told her that was all that mattered. I also used this opportunity to put my arm around her to great success. She ended up falling asleep on my shoulder and I didn't feel like waking her when the movie was over so I slept there with her.
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Guys what's some music to play during incest? (or in our case, masturbate to the idea of it)
Not necessarily family or sex related lyrics either, just the melody of the song, or the vibe.
... And no meme answers either like Barry White.
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>>84672482
Kesha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LqQ4NETlK4
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>>84672482
I came across a Spotify playlist a while back which had some surprisingly fitting music, and not lyrically either. Something like "Music to have incest to"
Dunno where it went so I'll just post a couple that I remember from it
>Madonna - 4 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dwcl4dMmWsQ
>No Doubt - Push And Shove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hunha8UtqCk
>Cheryl Cole - Fight For This Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4umc87T5UMs
>Boogie Pimps - Somebody To Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6HSlZBNwUQ
>Bee Gees - How Deep Is Your Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukgluvJpL4U
>Sugababes - About You Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPo8XJgoqmE
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>>84672482
It's very personal and based on her music taste
Best answer is to look at your mom's playlist or ask her what groups she likes, then go through their songs and see if there's something you could see yourself pounding her to
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>>84672727
The first thing that comes to mind for me is something related to being annoying. Brat seems like too childish a word but it's what comes to mind. Suits could maybe be changed too for age range reasons but I dunno
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>>84647718
Of course not. But you have a choice either you're going to make this a regular thing or you won't, but if you do, your brother will appreciate your attempts to look cute for him and not treat him like fuck meat you can have whenever you please just because he's your brother.
>>84647895
>Couldn't control myself.
That's normal if you are infatuated.
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Yes I did, sorry.
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>>84672900
Yeah, that seems like a good idea.
Been avoiding him ever since that thing...
>>84672961
I'll see what happens. Who knows. Maybe he has forgotten about this. (Yes, I am being delusional)
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I have mommy issues, but there's never been anything between my mom and me. How ever I've been dating a woman fifteen years older than myself for 5 years. I'm 30 she's 45. Her kids are 5 and 7 years younger than me. Both girls. I moved in with her shortly after her youngest left for college. The first summer was weird when her daughter came back, but it's normal now.
I'm really content, she settled into a housewife role and only works part time now. So I come home to a hot meal and she takes care of me, we are really affectionate and I think her kids are grossed out because I rail their mom and especially the younger one has heard us. The other one doesn't stay over because she lives close.
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>>84673199
I'm not attracted to them. They are stick people. The oldest one doesn't even wear a bra regularly, she has no tits at all at 25. Their mom is all curves it's like her body melts into mine like butter.
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>>84673146
I fear it might escalate, yes.
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Then what should I do?
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>>84673246
Text him cute emojis and be flirty. Use the eggplant and kitty emoji and ask if he misses you or something like that. He might be freaking out and under the impression that you both need to talk. Just be transparent and tell him what you want and that you care about him. Things only get weird if you allow them to.
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>>84673330
Maybe just hanging out will be better. If he doesn't bring it up, I won't.
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>>84672482
https://files.catbox.moe/a2lir7.ogg
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>>84674077
Love dommy mommies
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>>84674077
Moms are Domson ONLY
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>>84672482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUiOJn4bAJA
Quintessential music
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>>84673758
Has a 'vacation' vibe to it, like the couple are fucking at night in a warm Med villa.
I like mom/son but I find middle aged sibling incest hot as well.
Two unassuming siblings "Mark and Deb" having an affair under everyone's noses.
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Right now, I don't feel much, but when I was in seventh grade, I adored my sister's butt. I loved it when she wore shorts; she had pink ones that ended right below her buttocks, and, oh my god, I remember that glorious day when she wore those short ones that practically didn't cover anything, not even the top of her buttocks. They were so tight against her skin, they looked like bikini bottoms. I loved them, and the naive girl probably didn't even realize it. I remember, one summer, we went swimming in the river. She was there, innocent, swimming with gusto, right behind her, behind that big butt. Or, that time after she got out of the pool, she walked past me, so confident, and when she turned her back, it turned out her swimsuit was showing half her butt. She wore it again the following year; it was so small on her. And once, she was sleeping, wearing shorts, face down, I didn't miss the opportunity, and I rubbed my cock against her from behind, I had time to cum before she woke up.
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All mothers are doms
They just don't use the stupid overt and tacky methods you see in braindead porn/hentai, their methods are more subtle and insidious
Nobody knows you better than your mother, if you think you're in control it's only because she's letting you think you're in control
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>>84672286
This week so far, nothing other than drive my sister to work, weekends are the busy family days for me.
>>84672727
Considering anons' opinions.
>tattoos/piercings
>clingy/independent
>medication
>drug use
>in a subculture
>lesbian tendencies
>party animal
Maybe replace muscle with trad feminine/rebel, or something else.
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>>84673116
Incest avoidance, or preference, are real things. The paper is a meta-analysis specifically about lab experiments conducted to see how relatedness affects mate choice. But mate choice is just one way inbreeding avoidance occurs. In many wild species, related males and females who are reproductively viable have near zero mating opportunities with each other because of physical migration or different maturation rates. It's still inbreeding avoidance, just not at the level of individual behavior. There's no reason why inbreeding avoidance via mate choice would evolve in that situation.
Primates and mammals with similar characteristics tend to practice inbreeding avoidance at the individual level. And reflecting their necessity, M/S aversion tends to be much stronger than B/S or F/D, since the latter two are less likely to interact when reproductively viable. A number of Japanese researchers have done similar lab work with primates in an attempt to induce momcest and found it very difficult, though not impossible.
Journalists don't critically read the studies they make headlines about, and researchers know how to phrase a title or an abstract in a way that maximizes attention from potential donors. Researchers behave no differently than youtubers in that aspect. The paper's authors are aware of everything I typed above, they just chose not to highlight it.
What's more relevant to understanding inbreeding problems are rare, wild species where inbreeding among adult relatives is common and results in little harm, or domesticated species for which issues of inbreeding depression have been managed by humans.
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>>84645156
This general ruined my relationship with my mother. Maybe it's really because she's a narcissist, but heed my warning. Do not attempt this in real life.
Listen to me, not the weirdos who get off to stories.
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Mama reclaiming what's hers
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>>84676298
I'd like to see one. GSA and GSA-like behaviors are extremely understudied and the existence of it undermines a lot of the silly theories about incest that get promoted.
>Would the avoidance still hold
Likely not. There have been rodent experiments showing that relatives would mate with each other as long as they were reared apart. The same rodents were unwilling to mate with their step-relatives. Unrelated chimpanzees in zoos are not observed mating if they were reared together. This Japanese study had a monkey who avoided mating with both his mother and an unrelated female who was behaviorally close to his mother. Mate choice inbreeding avoidance mostly works through familiarity when young, not through another form of kin recognition.
GSA is partly just a corollary of the Westermarck effect. The other part of GSA seen in humans, extremely strong attraction and potential pair bonding, is more difficult to find in animal research. Experiments would probably be most meaningful if restricted to monogamous and polygynous species. The species I mentioned above are polygynandrous.
>>84677147
He may have suffered a debilitating injury on his ski trip, or worse. They are frequent occurrences. RIP in such case. He was valuable for establishing certain correlates to search for in revealing incest propensity and he will be honored.
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>>84676093
>Journalists don't critically read the studies they make headlines about, and researchers know how to phrase a title or an abstract in a way that maximizes attention from potential donors. Researchers behave no differently than youtubers in that aspect. The paper's authors are aware of everything I typed above, they just chose not to highlight it.
Both should be bullwhipped for corrupting the truth of sacred incest.
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>>84672594
Woke up sick today which kinda sucks but I get mommy's homemade chicken soup for dinner so it's worth it. Haven't gotten pampered by her since I was a kid so the extra attention today is nice. Any ideas on how to take advantage of the situation? So far I decided to match her energy and just wear underwear and a robe. Joining her on her workouts must've paid off, I've noticed her stealing glances.
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>>84676093
The official primate of /mcg/
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Hey I have a picture
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>>84679570
One momma hand for mcg coming in
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>>84678553
Kiss her cheeks (or her neck if you think she's ready for that) and steal glances of your own at her boobs
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>got food poisoning
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>mom's coming over to take care of me
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>>84680928
Sisterfucker supremacist over here
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>>84680933
>Got your booties pjs on?
No lol. I'm a bit too hot rn to wear much more than underwear. Are you a mom that likes her son? It would be interesting to hear from the other side. What kind of stuff do you like your son to do? What do you wish he would do?
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>>84681065
Oh, that's kinda sad. Each situation is different, and mine is pretty favorable, but I hope you can find a way to make it work. Judging by my mom's disposition I think she might like some pushiness too, when the time is right.
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>>84680928
>rivals the original imo
>objectively wrong
Correct, it doesn't rival it, it objectively surpasses it in every way
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>>84681169
>but I hope you can find a way to make it work
it stays a powerful, but fun, fantasy for us hehe
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he's recently married and they're trying to have kids
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>he's recently married and they're trying to have kids
Oh, fair. I didnt see you before so I have a bunch of questions lol. When and how did you realize your attraction towards him? Why? How uncomfortable were you with yourself?
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Do you mind filling this out? >>84647253
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Blank just means unresearched. Gorillas have lower copulation rates (similar to humans) than most primates, are harder to study in labs, and have small populations stuck in war-torn areas so opportunities to observe have been rare. Though relevant to /mcg/, there are behavioral and genetic qualities shared between gorillas and humans, but not with chimps/bonobos.
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>>84682328
Hm.... i like noncon doujins....
>>84682331
Haha.... I've never let on to anyone irl i feel the way i do
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Both games are mid af
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>>84682392
Were you like late 30s when he was strutting around in his teens?
Do you think it might be pretty common for women who are still in their fertile years to take notice if their son is a particularly studly teen? There's the meme about japanese mothers taking a big interest in their developing son and "helping not get distracted" during exam years, I imagine absent husbands are a factor but I've not seen reliable data other than the porn and odd anecdotes.
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Not that anon and not this general, but the general culture on /r9k/ circa 2013 encouraged me to take a confusing situation and push it into full-blown awkwardness and resentment.
Just seeing her process the shift in reality from "little glimpses of my body drive my son wild" to "my son just touched me with sexual intent" was truly devastating. Like if she'd just found out I'd been secretly feeding her human meat for several weeks. I don't think it was one of her performative "you're hurting me so bad right now" things either, because the sexualized behavior ceased immediately.
The story is she knew I had a crush on her but it went totally unacknowledged, she just chewed me out for looking at porn when I was in high school without mentioning what kind it was. Then one day years later, while we were passing in the living room, she hiked up the leg of her shorts to show me her black lace panties. The next day she came out into the living room wearing just a black lace bra and bounced into an exaggerated "thinking hard pose" and then bounced back out of it and went into her room again. Generally speaking, she never wore bras at home, she must have put it on just to come out into the living room where I was watching TV and then go back to change out of it and into her normal house shirt.
When she saw how I enjoyed that, she became very open with her body. Including an "accidental" nipple flash. This escalated over weeks before I tried moving her away from the sink with my fingers on her hips. She froze up and gave me that look and we avoided eye contact for several days. We haven't spoken since we moved out of that house in 2014.
I'm at the word limit so I can't speculate on her mentality, but I remember she had been talking about that bra and panty set after seeing an ad in the newspaper about a week before that. I guess she finally got the set and just had no one else to show it to and let the intrusive thoughts win.
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>>84684053
>we haven't spoken since we moved out of that house in 2014
What was your relationship like prior to the incident? Going no contact for 12 years seems like an overreaction to "moving her away from the sink with my fingers on her hips"
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>nice weather today
>abduct younger brother to help me go shopping
>drop him off at the games shop to buy some stuff and play Magic the Gathering
>pick up some fancyish coffee, a very nice travel bottle that's also good for hot drinks and a nice multitool
>get some groceries that can handle sitting in the car, then get an ice cream cone to share with the toddler and go play in the park
>pick little brother up after a few hours and get dinner before taking him home
Nice day. figured I would blogpost a little since things are a bit slow. Been dealing with mood swings lately so keeping myself busy. Having a nice warm sunny day helped. All the gifts I picked are things he can use at work where his wife will never see him and that he can convincingly say he bought for himself if they get questioned. I was going to do just one but the bottle wasn't that much more expensive and I thought "oh well it's twins so two gifts is a fun thing to do". But then I had a bottle he'll use for coffee and it seemed silly to give him that without giving him some nice coffee too. He'll probably get them Sunday morning when we go visit grandpa's grave to clean it and leave flowers. Might see if I can get some plants for the garden this weekend since we've finally stopped getting nights that are below freezing. Hoping I can see him while the weather's still nice because I own a couple dresses that I can only wear like three months out of the year. Maybe I can convince him to help me with the garden so I can show him my favorite one.I'm lonely and this is all a big excuse to get him to spend time with me. Helping your pregnant single mom sister with the garden is normal, right?
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>>84684108
>I'm lonely and this is all a big excuse to get him to spend time with me. Helping your pregnant single mom sister with the garden is normal, right?
Why not ask your younger brother to come over more often? Or is it a more specific "lonely" problem?
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I meant the garden and dress were an excuse to get my older brother for a few hours, sorry. I bring my younger brother along because he usually doesn't mind coming with me and I honestly just like having someone to talk to in the car. I do get lonely in general but I've just been missing my older brother. Especially with Father's Day coming up.
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>>84685950
I'll explain more in detail but right now I'm just bumping to keep the thread alive. Thread count screwed me and mobile wouldn't post last night after I left for dinner.
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https://files.catbox.moe/5ts02m.jpg
Where would my mom be ranked?
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>>84687035
Meant to say "word count screwed me" but anyway...
>>84684079
Our relationship before that was not good, although I didn't realize how bad it was until much later. I specify that I had a "crush" on her because I hate her otherwise. If this story came out the embarrassing part wouldn't be that she was my mom but that she was my bully. The details aren't thrilling or particularly sensational, my parents shouldn't have had a child together and didn't deal with me much as a baby, instead leaving me with my dad's parents for my first few years while he went to work out of state and she moved back in with her parents. With my dad and extended family I refer to her by her first name or "my dad's ex-wife" instead of mom but I rarely see any of them, either.
We didn't go no contact because I touched her on the waist, it was just exactly what you would have expected us to do the moment it became a financial possibility and she had shut down any overt attempt at incest. I should actually clarify that this was more of a long dysfunctional build-up rather than a sudden isolated episode like I implied in my previous post. Word count really fucked me, but there were prior incidents where she dressed up for my dad but I was the only one who was into it so she focused on me instead. "Never spoke again" isn't even entirely accurate, just the briefest way to describe our relationship afterwards. For instance, we used to go grocery shopping together but that stopped, but she still posts on my Facebook on my birthday.
>>84685950
Memories are hazy and I'm keeping details vague because it's an embarrassing story. We're also both full-on crazy people who behave in illogical ways, because that's what it takes for people to get to this point. Again word limit is fucking me, but I say /r9k/ encouraged this idea for reasons that only seem obvious to me because I actually attempted to turn hornyposting into real world action with a woman who seemed eager.
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>>84685079
Gorilla son observes, then encourages his father's intromission, and later mimics him eating food. Some primatologists view it as a form of sex education. Aborigines have been seen engaging in similar behavior.
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>>84687771
If you hate her and are embarrassed by this story, what's your motivation for telling it to /mcg/?
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>>84688716
>If you hate her and are embarrassed by this story, what's your motivation for telling it to /mcg/?
As a cautionary tale after having seen a lot of anons wonder about whether what they read here is real or not.
To be honest even what I've posted in this thread has been mostly larp with 10% accuracy but the 10% that did happen was the most critical and everything else is just to avoid acknowledging to myself what really went down between us and keep things within the realm of erotic roleplay. Like if this went "broken arms" viral somehow and we were identified, we'd both be able to honestly argue that 90% of this didn't happen but I'm sure it's the narrative we'd both prefer everyone to believe.
It's also the most honest version of the three different larps I've posted, but the other ones were sexually motivated hornyposting so anons were more willing to play along or confirmation bias made it more believable to them. Through bits and pieces I've expressed different forms of the truth in these various larps.
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>>84688939
>as a cautionary tale after having seen a lot of anons wonder about whether what they read her is real or no
I already tell anons they shouldn't try to pursue their moms if they don't meet these criteria
1. Have a good normal mother-son relationship
2. Are at least moderately above-average in attractiveness
3. She's single
You would have immediately failed the first criteria
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>>84688939
>anons wonder about whether what they read here is real or not.
Bad outcomes in incest are what people normally hear about and what are assumed to always occur. The majority of momcest case reports I've collected include bad outcomes. I have many that start with a flirtatious, antisocial mother, and some that ended with police involvement. It's positive incest that people doubt, and will pay more attention to when they hear about it.
>Like if this went "broken arms" viral somehow and we were identified
I read as much as I could about about him and there's reason to believe he was doxxed. So whatever it is that does happen with incestuous couples, advanced LARPs have their value. But by admitting to multiple LARPs, you undermine your stated purpose of cautioning others. There are better ways to warn people of danger.
I'm interested in knowing how common porn-induced incestuous desire is, and how people manage it, whether they proceed or pull back. It's definitely not something for which there's existing, long-term psych literature.
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I hate how fetishistic some people get about incest, to the point that they're no longer really engaging with the individual that they're supposedly attracted to. Like, I don't like "my sister", I'm horribly in love with /her/, specifically /her/, and I wish every day that we weren't related. Us being siblings has nothing to do with my attraction to her and it is only an impediment to us being together.
And then, because of that (along with the other stereotypes about incest) and the fact that I'm terrified of losing her, it's not like I can simply just tell her.
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>>84690113
>it's not like I can simply just tell her
Give her the brother version of this
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>>84690710
I feel like just outright saying "I love you and want to hold you, the hardest part of every day is leaving for work knowing that you're here" would be better than a card like that, but your suggestion has been noted.
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>>84690113
I know what you mean but with momcest especially I think part of the appeal is how cosmically wrong to resolve the madonna-whore archetype by having a woman who's literally both at the same time rather than neither
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>>84689539
All the criteria have certainly had outliers to them. Though it isn't a prerequisite for safe escalation I think only 2 anons being able to go all the way with their married moms makes it a prerequisite for sex