>>16896575
Throwing in some non mainstream arguments.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PMKoezbV7XY

>>16897402
Sv3rige's reviews are very comfy.

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>>16896575
Don't do roids and amphetamines to gainsmax and you'll be fine.

the studies showing that some small amount of alcohol has benefits have been debunked
alcohol is poison. you drink it, you shrink your life. simple as
exercise is studied endlessly in mice. exercise is good for everything

>>16897626
>exercise is good for everything
Honestly sounds like an alt-health scam.
Very large cohorts usually show that when you're factoring in enough variables, the difference in longevity between sedentary and active people is negligible.

>>16897402
Sewerage basically promotes whatever he currently feels like doing. He's a huge flip-flopper (inb4 muh learning and growth - well, don't waste our time in the meantime).
He's also a militant atheist but one who believes in the kookiest form of natalism around: primate teleology, the fertility "plan."

>>16896575
No.

>>16897839
that's why i was talking about mice
the mechanism of the exercise benefit for mice is the same as in human: muscle fitness, cardiovascular health, lean/fat body mass changes
i didn't see the large studies that you mention, but it's definitely not the common conclusion. usually the benefits are obvious

>>16898195
>that's why i was talking about mice
Can you link those mice studies?

>i didn't see the large studies that you mention,

This one is from a twin cohort.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11799114/
>Study participants were twins from the older Finnish Twin Cohort (n=22,750; 18–50 years at baseline).
>Conclusion: Our findings suggest that the association between LTPA and all-cause mortality is susceptible to bias from multiple sources including residual confounding, reverse causality and genetic confounding. The association between LTPA and lower all-cause mortality may be largely due to a healthy phenotype and an overall healthy lifestyle co-occuring with high levels of LTPA and a lower mortality risk. [...]

This one uses both rats and humans.
https://www.nature.com/articles/srep18259#Sec5
>Our results also support the notion that inherited aerobic capacity is a predictor of longevity, but further study in both animals and humans is required to determine whether this is true for the portion of aerobic capacity enhanced by vigorous physical activity. Our findings are also consistent with previous studies that show positive effects of physical activity on glucose metabolism in rodents and human twins. However, vigorous physical activity does not improve longevity in twins or rodents, particularly when commenced in maturity.

This one found that 30-60 minutes of exercise per week is enough to maximize health benefits.
>J-shaped associations with the maximum risk reduction (approximately 10-20%) at approximately 30-60 min/week of muscle-strengthening activities were found for all-cause
mortality, CVD and total cancer, whereas an L-shaped association showing a large risk reduction at up to 60 min/week of muscle-strengthening activities was observed for diabetes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35228201/

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>>16896575

sports is excellent
"excercise" is what the mentally ill do, and its akin to an addiction, so its in the end bad for your health

>>16898568
Can you define sport in contrast to exercise? I think similar, exhausting things are bad.

>>16897455
>>16897887
He sometimes tells bullshit but there is more truth then bullshit in his videos. If you discuss something he has a opinion in he should always be watched and his opinion considered. If you only consider mainstream science redddit is the other way.

>>16898202
>The association between LTPA and lower all-cause mortality may be largely due to a healthy phenotype and an overall healthy lifestyle co-occuring with high levels of LTPA and a lower mortality risk.
Based. Good to see authors exposing some of the bullshit. These things are a lot harder to study than most people imagine, and a lot of shitty researchers delude themselves then it gets turned into media slop that retards swallow whole.

>>16896575
Basically yes but doing it too often has negative side effects.

Did you know that literally just getting in okay shape once in your life induces a slew of positive morphological changes in your body that basically last forever and cannot occur any other way?
You basically NEED to go through a moderate phase of exercise at least once in your life to be healthy at all.

>>16901604
Tell me more

The amount of copium you nerds are willing to huff to think that the gym isn’t good for you is hilarious.

>Muh studies
>Muh confounding factors

Get real. Your body needs to be actively used or it starts breaking down, and active people are more fit (and attractive) on every possible vector.

>>16904144
between a car engine with 500,000 miles and 50,000, which one do you prefer

>>16896575
Planking and some high intensity variation of planking floods your body with BDNF, which promotes neurogenesis and reverses neuronal cell death. Planking every day for ~10 minutes each time throughout the day gives you the plasticity of a 4-year-old's brain forever until you eventually die from some other reason.

>>16904171
falling for self-improvement grifts must be very exhausting

>>16904149
50,000. cars depreciate with use, humans depreciate with disuse

>>16904599
>humans depreciate with disuse
cars also "break down" if you don't use them for extended periods of time, though?
a study found out that you can correlate max health benefits of exercise with exercising 30-60 minutes every week, which amusingly coincides somewhat with car mechanics advising you to drive at least 15-30 minutes every 1-2 weeks to avoid car parts breaking down

>>16904601
ok

>>16904601
>Muh studies
And how much do you work out? Post your squat PR and resting heart rate so everyone can laugh at you.

>>16904639
I don't work out, at all, precisely because the best argument for working out is social stigma.

>>16904649
>Physical strength
>Better late life outcomes
>Lower chance of injury, illness, faster recovery
>Self confidence
>Mental discipline
>Attractiveness, which leads to career success
Honestly think about your life some, son. Anybody can make more of their body with diet and exercise.

>>16905374
>Honestly think about your life
I am. This is the thread where we think about our lives.
Your incessant refusal to engage with or utilise data puts you among the least productive members in this conversation.

>>16896575
I have no clue if this is real (don't know much about body function/physics/whatever), but at least with cholesterol and blood clots, I feel like doing a lot of intensive exercise might be good simply because it keeps moving them for later collection/deposition instead of having them stick to your veins somewhere.

>>16905381
My dude, if muh data makes you think that never exercising is the ideal way to steward your body, then you’re out of your mind and idgaf about “your” “studies”. Either you’re misinterpreting them or they’re wrong, and it’s so patently obvious that digging into it would be demeaning to everyone. Get a grip. Start jogging and pushing modest weights for a few weeks, then tell me if you feel better.

>>16897839
>longevity
Yes the longest lived organisms typically do so by promoting the least growth and doing the least.
You want to live to 100? Eat low protein, eat little in general, dont be fat, dont abuse drugs. Just live.

But I dont know how someone could want such a slavish life, you live to 100 doing what? You were a weak uninteresting bitch your whole life. Your 100 beinf wheeled around by yojr grandkids and what do you reflect upon?

This whole post is just some weak bitch coping because he mogged by Chad.

If your intelligent theres no reason not to be on gear. The health effects can be easily mitigated and longevity technology will only increase as time goes on. Live like a lion