IQ has never been anything but testing for cultural compatibility and compliance

>>16901199
They could be meaningful if someone actually bothered to make a proper comparison, the only lists of national IQs I've seen so far have had terrible methodology when you look into how they fetched and processed the data.

>>16901210
Niggers are empirically less intelligent than almost all other races. No amount of wealth, nutrition, and culture can ever make this observable natural phenomenon disappear. Only a fool would reject the mountain of evidence that supports this.

>>16901260
yeah, just like how no amount of evidence can make chomskyians stop believing that human language is somehow special :^)

>>16901199
65 iq on average? You mean that there are 50 iq motherfuckers in there and lower? And that the 80 iq guy is the smart one?

>>16901260
It's a fact that some races have lower IQs but it's also a fact that racists have lower IQs, therefore white liberals are the master race. Racist whites are about on par with non-racist niggers.

>>16901210
>finding patterns in boxes is cultural

>>16901268
An organized language like ours is essential for logic development in our brains

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>>16901199
>sk is the only purple country
Is this fucking true? If so, why?

>>16901723
ultra harcore over-education I believe

>>16901199
>Are national IQs meaningful in any way?
Depends on what you want to observe. IQ measures standard schooling, i. e. logical thinking, math etc. in a controlled exam-style setting. This naturally means people living in countries with poor schooling infrastructure fare worse in these kind of tests than those in countries with a high amount of standard schooling.
- properly equipped school vs. "some chairs and a blackboard set up below a tree"
- regular test system vs. "everyone repeats the letters and there's no such thing as grades or diplomas etc."
- mandatory nine years vs. "teach him to read and write and then he can come back and help out at the farm"
uninterrupted vs. "missed four years during his child soldier years"
- etc.
This is also why East Asian countries fare the best in IQ tests, because in those countries you still have the old 19th century system of rigorous exams, standing up for every answer, dry learning by heart etc., whereas Western schooling has somewhat moved away from that and has started to encourage more self-motivated learning, school trips, extracurricular stuff etc.

Now, for INTELLIGENCE IQ is a pretty shit measure. You can SOMEWHAT infer that someone who does well in IQ tests cannot be THAT stupid, but you're not measuring his intelligence directly nonetheless.

>>16901458
Kinda reasonable. The raven's test for example, I'd suspect if your base language did not have a left right top down order, you'd be at a disadvantage

>>16901210
Move your ass to a third world shit hole filled with hopeless retards. You truly deserve to live among them.
>>16901770
> IQ tests were not designed for chimps
Not my problem.

>>16901199
German and Italian masterrace

>>16901199
If the methodology were good, like all 15 year old's in every school were given the same test every year, and said test was something basic like Matrix Reasoning that is mostly independent of language and education, then it could be useful.
Unfortunately, the existing national IQ scores we have seem heavily flawed. Also, this would only be good for a broad snap shot of a given society or culture. The difference between individual IQ's is astronomical compared to the average difference of the lowest and highest first world countries.

>>16903629
>Lewontin fallacy
Opinion discarded. I can tell your skin is brown by your inability to form any thoughts of your own. :^)

>>16903639
Why is it a fallacy? I'm not saying there's no difference between groups, anecdotal evidence would indicate there is, but people turn to average group IQ as an end-all argument to look down on others intelligence at an individual level, which is retarded. I mention it because my own IQ is ~140, even using the most exaggerated difference between the average black and average white is less than the difference between myself and the average white.

>>16901199
The numbers don't really matter, though the trends stay mostly consistent.

>>16901373
The black SD in america tends to be smaller, closer to 10 than 15.

>>16901260
Any studies to back up your racist claims?

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>>16903664
(I'm not the guy you were replying to)

https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b7b/8a1bd5ecdf4dbc2e0f91e4eec9be3d12eef3.pdf

>>16901268
White liberals also advocate for their own extinction, doesnt seem that smart to me

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>>16901199
>and gaps between countries shrink.
To their genetic means.
>>16901210
Elementary Cognitive Tasks behave like traditional IQ tests (a battery of them has a g-loading of .7), yet they can be solved by intellectually disabled individuals in less than 1 second. They're also less prone to retest effect. They're highly fluid and culturally unbiased (same factor structure appears regardless of culture).
>terrible methodology
Not really, any cherrypicked "bad methodological examples" were either just actually representative of that population or quickly excluded from the samples.
>people living in countries with poor schooling infrastructure fare worse in these kind of tests
The direction of causation is from IQ (proxy for g) to socioeconomic status (including education, which we've known since the 1960's Coleman report).
Murray (2002) showed that even after controlling for poverty, illegitimacy, and parental divorce, the sibling with a higher childhood IQ went on to achieve higher adult income.
There are also voucher studies for Milwaukee, Cleveland, and Washington showing that school quality has a negligible effect on IQ (NAEP).
Piffer showed that national intelligence can be predicted with polygenic scores (r = .91) many multiples superior to using random SNPs. Polygenic scores trained on Europeans can accurately predict provincial IQ in China (r = .52).

>>16901199
This map is based almost entirely on HDI because the leftists believe that the only thing that matters to IQ is "environment".

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>>16904991
What do we think of studies that show black white achievement gaps in school shrink with educational interventions like school accountability in the no child left behind program?

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>>16905092
From your paper: "we must be careful in our interpretation of what these effects actually mean for student learning and other academic outcomes. Research on the unintended consequences of accountability suggests that a number of explanations, such
as cheating, teaching to the test, or reclassifying students, may account for the reduction of achievement gaps on high-stakes
tests (Booher-Jennings, 2005; Jacob, 2005; Jacob and Levitt, 2003). The true value of NCLB black subgroup-specific accountability pressure in reducing achievement gaps might be seen through its effect on other outcomes that may be less corruptible than high-stakes standardized tests, such as graduation rates, SAT scores, college enrollment rates, or even low-stakes tests."

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>>16903736
Gee, I wonder why only one race is demoralized to that point. It's almost like there's billions, even trillions, of dollars promoting this.