>>34688807
I'm not currently on any dating apps. But it's a dating app, unless something really stuck out on his page I wanted to remark on, I do have the expectation that he would message me first. I always had something interesting or a question to prompt discussion. I really don't like nonchalant men so it's kind of a natural filter if neither of us message first

I noticed my ex GF unblocked me, we parted on good terms despite her not wanting to talk anymore.

Honestly, I'd be happy just to have her as a friend again. Should I try messaging her to see if that's cool?

>Why did you break up?
My bad, I was just kinda not doing much in life. I've been working on myself since.

>>34688862
Coming from a girl I don't think it hurts to reach out but leave it short and don't overdo it. If she doesn't want to continue anything with you then accept it and move on as well.

>>34688832
clock it, whenever women try to bring up a problem that we have, men always have to go on some kinda rant about how they have it 10x worse. If its so damn bad for yall then why do you NEVER bring it up unless its a counter argument towards a woman? It irritates me so bad

>>34688862
>I was just kinda not doing much in life.
This is kinda vague lol what actually happened?

>>34688832
>>34689132
>>34689134
why do w*men complain about shit that doesn't affect them? stick to makeup and dolls, you dumb holes.

>>34688832
We must not be too retarded if the world and almost everything in it was built by us. It’s funny because y’all are the ones who piggyback off of us, yet we’re “inferior”.

>>34688862 very much agree with >>34688872

>>34688807
>AI slop pic
Kys

>>34689233
No, you

>>34688832
I don't think we are. I think it's both genders (humans in general) that are retarded

what happened to that german slut that posted nudes in these threads

>>34688862
Hope you don't mind me asking, but how old were you both when you broke up and now?

>>34688807
I like that the guy is thinking about girly traps, not biological females.

>>34689134
Cause woman complain about men not talking about their issues. Then men start to talk about them and you start calling them retards. Dont know if women are really as intelligent as they say.

>>34688832
Humans are only rational 10% of the time. Our mammalian brain is in control most of the time—which is all about emotion and behavior—our prefrontal cortex just rationalizes our emotional behavior after the fact.

Why won't women eat leftovers?

>>34690724
For many of them, that would be cannibalism

>>34690724
I’m a woman and I love having leftovers this is propaganda

How do boobs look? A image of yours (with a timestamp!), roasties, would be great!

Women, what are the two main factors you look for when matching with men on dating apps? Basically, if a guy has these two factors you’ll almost certainly swipe right on him. If you can’t think of any specific two factors then ignore this question.

>>34690724
I've only known men refusing to eat leftovers.
Men usually cook so often and leave the kitchen a mess, fill the fridge with leftovers, then leave it in there to rot.

I cook something then eat it for the rest of the week until it's gone. I also clean up after I cook.

>>34688807
how do i stop getting girls to think i'm too good for them? im not really interested in normie women so I end up with a lot of internet weirdos (which is basically my type anyway), but any time I try to do stuff with internet weirdos they end up saying that they're not good enough/too fat/too thin/boobs are .00001 degrees too far to the left or some other thing that i don't really care about and that they're not good enough, which pretty much always ends in communication being cut. I can succeed with normie women irl, but i dont LIKE normie women irl. Nothing against them, I'm just not interested in them in that kind of way. what the fuck am i doing wrong, man?

I have the spergies. What kind of woman can understand/tolerate this and how do I find them? I have had lasting relationships before and I was told everything was great on the day we broke up, but everytime we fought was ultimately based on characteristics due to this. For example, I can't for the life of me do the thing where if the girl is sad I should validate all the reasons she's sad and pat her on the back while saying 'there there', if you get what I mean. Instead I "must" reason through and help her solve her problem. I go out of my way to act on the suggestions as well, but the result is the girl only pretends to like it at first, then gets anxious, then has some kind of breakdown and admits she never wanted a solution and doesn't have the will to continue working on the solution we were building on because it's too much effort. Talking about shit like setting up her entire path to her dream job, or helping her with toxic friends, or what have you, nothing weird (I think!).
They also got mad when I would take constructive criticism and improve, as opposed to getting angry/sad or something? I don't understand it at all.
Another example is that they say shit like "I want you to always be honest even if I won't like it". Then they will ask me questions like "did you ever see a woman more beautiful than me" and if I say "only once" she will be mad for the rest of the relationship and bring that up repeatedly. I have become good at these lies but it physically hurts me everytime I have to try to lie about these things. Isn't it enough that I love her and that I think she is gorgeous?

To reiterate: is there any kind of woman who might understand the way I act and respond better, and who is more likely to feel positively about it? If so, any tips on finding such a woman?

Why does your pussy get so wet when you're choked into unconsciousness?

>>34689205
>>34688832
Why are you locked in the bathroom?

Ok I got one.

Women: Where the fuck ARE you? I don't see you at the gym, I don't see you at the library, I don't see you at the beach. I can't imagine you're ALL at the bar and I'm not going to try to pick you up at your job.

>>34696413
Good one, I second this.
Also never see women at the bar if not with their boyfriend.

>>34696408
Just another parasite.

>>34696413
for what its worth both men AND women pretty much only stay inside these days
t. bisexual

>>34695883
No woman will tolerate this shit because this is just you being incompetent at relationships, not autism. my partner also has autism and I only had to explain to him once "always offer reassurance, validation, and support for the woman to feel safe/loved, then you can help her with solutions. when someone is upset they want that be to dealt with first so they can do the second"
same with being honest. you can be honest and if she asks if women are prettier, just say "there are lots of beautiful women but you are the one I chose"
I hate when people use autism but really they kinda are just incompetent assholes at the end of the day. There are women who are okay with autism and even a degree of incompetence, but what bothers me is you clearly know these things are problems and generally unacceptable, but you seem to be convinced because you're autistic you can't change how you respond to things which is... quite frankly.... fucking retarded. you need to stop looking for women who tolerate your bullshit, and instead go to fucking therapy and learn how to take care of people in relationships first. If you can't reassure a woman on a basic level you are not meant for an actual relationship with one and either learn, or accept being alone.

>>34696930
>"always offer reassurance, validation, and support for the woman to feel safe/loved, then you can help her with solutions. when someone is upset they want that be to dealt with first so they can do the second"
I was told the same so I did that. But she said it wasn't enough or not done right.
>same with being honest. you can be honest and if she asks if women are prettier, just say "there are lots of beautiful women but you are the one I chose"
That's always essentially what I said. The girls have always been super upset about it.
Sounds like I'm not so bad at relationships after all.
Enjoy wallowing in whatever that is though.

>>34696938
I will say for some women these things are never enough because they aren't stable for relationships so definitely if it genuinely is on their part then that could be a thing. I have to be picky with female friends for that reason as an autismo. I just also know men often can be dipshits.
I also want to point out I love how you claimed you wanted solutions, not reassurance as an autistic man and when I focus on your behavior you then proceed to say "have fun wallowing" which.... lol.

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>>34688807
>Ask The Other Gender Anything
Alright. What's a good place to meet slightly autistic girls?

I'm not looking to date (at least not immediately) but my friend group is 95% men and I figure I should get more comfortable being around women so I'd like to try and make a few friends.

Bonus if you can tell me how to strike up a conversation without them thinking I'm gonna assault them. I'm awkward and I look like a caveman.

>>34696959
>I just also know men often can be dipshits.
Obviously. But that isn't necessarily a reason to assume on the worst possible interpretation of a described scenario has happened.
My wallowing comment was about the fact you took half of your post to just go on a rant how I must totally be using my autism as a shield or whatever. But for example, I did not preemptively explain the development on the first situation I described, and your advice for it is putatively right (the fact it didn't work can be blamed on many factors, including simply that different people react differently to different things). Despite your obvious emotional state, it is the kind of replies I was hoping for. But the second part was already (in my estimation) preemptively resolved, your post just reads like you got blind with rage for some uncalled for reason, and became unable to read.
I hope this is clearer.

>>34696980
oh, I didn't assume worst case scenario because if I was I would of assumed you were genuinely a bad person with bad intentions, and I don't think that at all. just half the men I work with in therapy are like the above, and the other half usually aren't asking for help with relationships. Not to mention this is 4chan, so I'm not exactly going to assume you're super well adjusted. And yes, I only know the information you've given, and what I've experienced, so naturally I would go the quickest route to addressing the problem... which is usually people's behaviors. I'll leave you to your own wallowing since half of your post is just venting about how you perceived my post based around emotions, which, ironically, is what you complained about originally. My main point is making sure you have competent skills (you can be both autistic and learn how to adjust), but yes, also be sure to choose good women. I know there's not a lot of them but the difference between interacting with a solid woman and a bpdemon or even normie bitches or slampigs is.... night and day, to say the least. I thought that part was the obvious one, though.

>>34688807
I have a question for gay men. Why do you guys use so many terms for yourself that all just mean "gay adult male"? Femboy, Boi, trap, mtf, boy thing, nb, etc etc... you're always just a gay grown man.

>>34697004
>just half the men I work with in therapy are like the above, and the other half usually aren't asking for help with relationships.
As you see, this explains that regarding your vent.

> I know there's not a lot of them but the difference between interacting with a solid woman and a bpdemon or even normie bitches or slampigs is.... night and day, to say the least. I thought that part was the obvious one, though.
From my perspective there is no way to know if the problem is me or her. I assumed the problem was me, which is why I was hoping a woman would help me fix this.
Based on your feedback, my selected strategy is to continue as usual and see if it happens one more time. If so, I will assume you were wrong and ask the question again. If not so, I will assume you were right and it wasn't actually a me issue. Clear cut and simple.
Frankly, this exchange did not need to be so twisted if I do say so.

>>34697004
Just wanted to add since this whole diatribe distracted me and I forgot: thanks. I appreciate the help.

>>34697017
I apologize for coming off roughly I am just used to a lot of men also coming to the thread not to have authentic engagement with their questions. Also: you can always ask if someone wants to vent or get advice, it might feel awkward at first but for my relationships it helps a lot, and it's also a good litmus test with women (if they're not open minded around a question like that they probably would be stuck on other traits or behaviors as well). Good luck.

>>34697011
Not all of those terms refer to being gay though..

femboy = feminine man. they identify as a man but just dress in feminine clothing
mtf = trans woman. They identify as a woman or transfem.
nb = nonbinary, or anyone who doesn’t identify as a man or woman. Can apply to those who are afab or amab.
boy thing = ???? not really sure what this means but I’m assuming its under the nonbinary umbrella
trap = outdated term to refer to a femboy

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have u ever seen someone & felt ur body betray u so fast it registered as threat. not butterflies. something with teeth. someone moves a certain way, y'know? just existing, weight distributed like that, jaw like that, hands doing nothing but doing it like *THAT* & my whole system enters a state I can only call predatory except I'm the prey. my own response hunting me. I didn't consent to wanting them. didn't see it coming. & now there's a pulse between my legs & something in my throat that might be anger might be hunger might be grief & I can't tell bc I think maybe they're the same organ. is that male. is that female. I want to know if men get this. if u've ever gotten hard at something that made u hate urself. not the content, not the girl, the fact of it. the response arriving without permission. ur cock deciding before u did. & whether that helplessness turned u on more. the recursion. wanting & hating the wanting & wanting the hating & noticing that even the noticing is arousing, y'know, the part where all that's left is the pulse & the want & the animal fury at being so easily unmade by someone who doesn't even know they did it. they're just standing there. & they did this to you. & you're angry at them. genuinely.

>>34692928
There are way more than two that a guy has to hit for me to match with him.

>>34696413
Home, spending time alone or with other women. The main reason being that I don't want any man attempting to pick me up when I'm just trying to exist in public.

>>34696930
Agreed with all of this, but your follow-up responses gave him just an inch to think that it isn't him, and that's all he's going to take from it.

>>34697078
t. troon

>>34697124
>Home, spending time alone or with other women. The main reason being that I don't want any man attempting to pick me up when I'm just trying to exist in public.
So, all I'm getting from this is that going forwards people are only going to meet online or maybe at their job.

>>34697206
Ignore that poster, it's just bait.

>>34697043
You say that, but every time I see someone using those terms they're just acting exactly like a homosexual man. There's no practical difference. A grown man isnt feminine just because he made up a term to say he is.

>>34697124
>There are way more than two that a guy has to hit for me to match with him.
Okay, then tell me four.

>>34697206
>So, all I'm getting from this is that going forwards people are only going to meet online or maybe at their job.
Well online doesn't work for most people and men and women are increasingly working in different fields plus it's generally recommended not to date coworkers so these days and going forwards people just aren't going to meet. That's why the birth rate is crashing.

Hey chicks, can you show me how your boobs look in combination with a recent timestamp?

For the ladies here, what does a man gotta do to earn your love? Feels like most women aren't interested in anything long term and are just looking for fun and praise from multiple men.

I know look on it doesn't help my case but if anyone here can give some clarity and tips i'd mean the world.

Thanks in advance too.

>>34697765
nice try :3 but no :D

>>34697775
make her laugh and also show intresst in her as a person i guess, tell her about your day, make her feel like she is part of your life, give her cute petnames.
Don't lovebomb tho, that could creep her out :3

ofc doesn't work for everyone, but it would work for me :D

Almost got into an agreement with a goonette to swap cum tributes, she chickened out last minute. Unironically, what the fuck did I do wrong?

>>34698017
That was a guy

>>34698017
>goonette
>cum tribute

Anon...

>>34698061
>>34698054
Despite my series of lapses in judgement, I did confirm that she was a woman. Got a couple of pictures for my trouble. Must've thought I was going to blackmail her or something. Shame.

>>34697837
So, any chance I could get your number or discord? Love to get to know you better

Thanks for the info too

>>34698088
AI generated pics you mean lulz

For the ladies, would you date a guy who has given blowjobs? What about dating a guy who is a bit feminine without being obviously gay or flamboyant, just a bit more in touch with their feminine side?

>>34700065
>given blowjobs
No
>second part
No because you gave men blowjobs and all that other stuff is bs to justify being a homo

>>34700067
Are you even a woman? Also the second part is completely separate from the first.

>>34700065
>would you date a guy who has given blowjobs?
Yes, I have dated a few bi guys in the past
>who is a bit feminine
I would love this :)

>>34700090
Oh yay, thanks for the response. Could you explain a bit more in detail on why you'd love being with a guy who is feminine?

>>34700065
>Bf who gave blowjobs
No
>Feminine side
As long he is not a femboy, sissy, ago or troon. If we are talking a slight flamboyant or metrossexual way, yes

>>34700114
I’m not sure exactly what *you* meant by feminine, but I like a sweeter/gentler/less “dominant” personality type and really not into macho men. Kind of makes me feel safer? I also just think it’s cute when a guy does little things like paint his nails.

>>34700128
Could you explain why you wouldn't want to date a guy who has given a bj, assuming they are just a normal guy and not any of those things you mentioned?
>>34700138
I see, okay thanks :)

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>back in 2023
>date a girl I really liked
>it only lasted 2 and a half months
>but I really liked her
>but struggling to find out why I've been hung up on her for so long
>realized she love bombed me hella early
>on our second date she told me I was "everything she hoped for" while crying happy tears in my car
>even before we met and we were on the phone a few days before our date
>told me I was handsome and glad she matched with me and that she was hoping se would
>said she stopped using dating apps and isn't talking to anyone else
>I fell for it hook, line, and sinker
I just feel so stupid. Like I tell myself "I can't believe I fell for that" often when I think about it. I also fucked up because our first date was 6 hours and our second date was 8 hours. I've learned now early dates should only be 2 hours max. She cheated on me, but not with her ex, who she talked about every time we hung out and I let slide because I just thought it would stop and I was head over heels for her. I immediately broke up with her. One of our post-break up convos I called her out since we were exclusive and she said she just "barely scratched the emotional surface of cheating" since she was only talking to guys on tinder and never met them and that "it was just a 2 month relationship so it wasn't a big deal." Part of me for so long wanted to believe she didn't mean that second one, but I know she did. I talk to my therapist about it often. Like, I don't want to contact her, but I still feel this emotional attachment that I don't want. I've dated other girls and even slept with a few since this ex, but I still feel this way. Am I fucked up beyond salvation? I'm almost 30 now and think about this girl more than I want to, but it's a lot less than when it initially happened.

>>34697206
There's a difference in meeting and solely being approached out of romantic interest. Men very rarely approach women just to chat for a minute and then move on with their days.

>>34697698
>doesn't smoke (cigarettes or weed)
>same political beliefs
>doesn't own a dog
>not religious
>doesn't want kids
>proper grammar, spelling, and syntax on profile
>has written an actual bio (not just something like "I'm bad at talking about myself. Just ask whatever you want to know."
>pictures need to be recent
>no bathroom selfies or gym selfies
>no pictures of them at pubs/bars
>needs to meet bare physical requirements (e.g. not overweight, no long hair, etc)
>has hobbies besides video games

>>34702247
You need a new therapist. Your current one is being neglectful by not helping you with this.

>>34702609
Admittedly he is. My problem is I hyper fixate on things. He's helped me with mindfulness and I am thinking of her LESS, but I still do. I think it was because it was so intense so quickly and I haven't had an intense relationship like that since

>>34702609
you are such an insufferable idiot it's hard to believe lol
>>34702685
don't listen to this dipshit dude

>ask the other gender anything
will you please go out with me femanon pretty please we can go get dinner and visit a book store and maybe see some nice sights pls pls pls pls pls???

>>34702710
Seems to be the standard for the women in these threads. As usual, it never even occurs to them that they should offer anything in return before posting a literal list of requirements for their partner. Breathtaking vanity.

>>34703135
Yup, the "men" here are fucking pathetic too. No wonder femanons are so vain if this is what greets them from the opposite sex.

>>34702685
Find a therapist who specializes in grief/loss. It will be life-changing.

>>34703171
I answered a question in this thread, retard.

>34704709
>I answered a question in this thread
While airing about as much bitterness towards the opposite sex as you could possibly get away with lmfao

Im horny and lonely

>>34688807
My work crush (my boss) gave me a bottle of her perfume as a parting gift for my last day of work. And said how I should spray it in my car and on my bed etc.

Wtf am I supposed to make of this? Also would it be creepy if I actually did it lol

>>34695883
When a woman gets sad you can either help her solve the problem or far more usually she just wants to not feel alone. Make her her favorite food, pamper her if she's into that, watch her favorite films. You're on the same team.

>>34705093
Does it make any difference how she expresses that she is sad? Preparing her favorite eats (either cooking or if it's junk food, getting out in the cold at midnight to get some for her), giving her a warm hug, a cop of hot chocolate, and so on and so forth are things I readily do if it's just "I'm sad and I need help" kind of things. It's when she says things like "I want to do X but Y is happening and I don't know what to do" that I am in trouble. What do you think of the previous advice in that situation?

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>>34705058
>My work crush (my boss)
Bro
>gave me a bottle of her perfume as a parting gift for my last day of work.
thats....
>And said how I should spray it in my car and on my bed etc.
What the fuck? How old are you and how old is she?

>>34705881
Me 30s. Her late 20s

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Women, have you ever locked a guy in chastity before? If so, describe your experience, release schedule, and so on.

im socially retarded but want a 4chan wife. wut do?

What do women look for when looking for a guy to use for attention?
Every woman I've dated or been in a relationship with was only after short term attention fulfillment. They always get bored of that and dump me and I don't know how to find better people. IDK what I'm doing wrong but I'm open to the idea I'm doing something wrong.

>>34711463
wondering this too cause it seems like the few amount of women I'm with just end up breaking up or cheating 3 or so months later
that or I'm picking terrible women, probably latter

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>>34688807

Women, do you like penis? If yes, why?
Do you like cum? If yes, what about it?
When a penis cums inside you, is it enjoyable?

>>34705058
She's hitting on you cause you no longer have a boss/subordinate relationship and can do so without it being a HR/whatever issue. She wants the places she plans on frequenting to smell familiar. Don't be a tard, but tell her you used it like she asked and what she plans to make of it. Ask her out, dude.

>>34710305
no i would immediately lose interest in a man if he told me he was into that stuff
>>34700065
no probably not honestly
>>34697775
it's not difficult so long as i enjoy his company, the issue is most men are kind of terrible company
>>34696413
i'm at home or at work or with friends
>>34696142
idk

>>34713336
>it's not difficult so long as i enjoy his company, the issue is most men are kind of terrible company
How would a man be good company? Would you say that varies a lot depending on the woman or are there base things that most/all women expect?

>i'm at home or at work or with friends
Do you actively seek dates? If so, what strategy do you use? If not, do you hope that a man will reach out to you in your daily life? Or are you focusing on other things?

>>34713347
i think it mostly just come down to chemistry, in both personality and also physically. sometimes things just click.

>>34713347
that's kinda complicated and i'm not really sure how to answer it. i've never really felt like i was "seeking" a relationship i just kind of land in them. i do like use dating apps more so out of boredom and do like going on dates but it's usually pretty casual without high expectations.

>>34713277
I'm a sperg who barely goes out myself so don't really know where to take he rifni ask her out. Haven't gone to bars or know what it means to take her out for a drink

Haven't dated since early 20s and just did shit like go to the movies or have a picnic and lay in the sun doing nothing.

I've made out with her a few months ago at a party she invited me to. But she "apologised for her behaviour" the following Monday and was weird for a week or 2 before we eased back I to casual flirting at work. I really don't know what to make of her. She work/friendzoned me. Heard her joke about with female co-workers about guys that work in building near by insinuating they found them attractive. Then she throws this one at me. Should I suss out with other coworkers what she thinks of me or if they honestly thought she was into me?

>>34713708
No, she's definitely into you. As I said, she distanced herself *because* you two had to maintain a professional relationship above all else. Since you're off the chain now she can approach it without restraint. And dates are just that, fun places. Dinners, picnics, movies, the zoo, flower gardens. Do NOT take a woman to a bar of all fucking places. If you wanna drink go to dinner and order wine or something.

You have a good shot, anon, take it!

Any ladies have questions for the guys?

>>34688807
Ladies, why do you ghost guys?

I feel like unless I'm sending perfect replies to a girl, she just ghosts me. The conversation can even be going well for hours or days, and if I slip up once I'm permanently ghosted. It's exhausting.

>>34688807
Foids, how would I go about meeting a virgin woman and rizzing her up for the purpose of marriage?

>>34713748
Even if I know she is probably seeing other guys or going on dates? During this time?

>>34713236
dicks aren’t fun to look at but they feel REALLY good inside of me. Like idk a dick pic doesn’t make me wet

>>34715038
The bitter hags of /soc/ won't provide a good faith answer to this question

>>34715239
"Probably." She's casting a line and seeing if you'll bite. You miss every shot you don't take.

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Women, what are some of your darkest sexual fantasies?

>>34716298
Well I know for sure she is seeing other guys just from overhearing and I know one of them is someone who works in a building nearby

>>34714136
not a girl but it's because they're talking to 10 other guys and you didn't make the cut

Femanons, would you date someone convicted of a sex crime if they were legitimately trying to be a good person and had changed

>>34713236
Do you like penis: Ehh. desu not really into the way they look aesthetically, though they're better than balls. But I'm into them in the sense that if it's hard it means the guy is turned on and I like that
Do you like cum: Also kinda gross, not into it if it gets on me or I have to do any kind of cleanup. Watching a guy cum is hot but the substance on its own does nothing for me.
Cumming inside: have not experienced (condoms)

Answered the above in good faith because reading it made me wonder the opposite, so question for guys:

What is it you like about seeing pussy?? Especially if you like looking at pics/video online, rather than it being a component of in person sex. I feel like with dicks, they're such visual signs of arousal/orgasm so it's easier to get the appeal than for v's, where outside of people who squirt a lot there's not as much change happening physically

I get the attraction to boobs though, they're pretty fun.

>>34721927
It depends what the crime was, the context?

>>34721945
I find innie pussy attractive to look at. I guess I like the smoothness, the colour, it's difficult to describe desu.

>>34721950
I'll just say internet crime, nothing irl (not trying to minimise). As for context, not sure what you're looking for so I guess I'll just yap. Got touched as a kid by another kid, entire childhood/teenage years were hypersexualised, got groomed as a teen which is when the offending started. Nowadays I'm in therapy, on meds, getting mental diagnosis and am a much kinder person

>>34721957
Hm, you seem remorseful and there are mitigating circumstances. I think I would need to know you as a whole person, and like you enough to be able to “overlook” it. At least it wasn’t full-on rape. Could you ever get it cleared from your record? Do you have to notify neighbors and such?

>>34721977
Neighbours know because of local news, but I've always wanted to live abroad anyways because the UK sucks. And no I don't have to notify anyone

Femanons, this one is for you.
The girl I was dating ended things last year because she felt she needed to deal with some mental health issues on her own. We are still friends and see each other regularly. I decided to stop being such a fat shit and have been working on losing weight. I'm down 60 pounds already but have another 140 to go.
We both seem to be doing better mentally, and I really want her to be the one I'm with.
Should I bring it up to her before or after I hit the first major goal of my weight loss (getting under 300)?
In her position, would seeing me working on myself while you're working on yourself be something you'd consider when asked to try again?

>>34721989
>local news
Ah that sucks, does it come up when you google your name? Not sure how easy it would be to move abroad with that offense, but at least in the US when you’re registered your full face and name is searchable in databases. Maybe UK is more hospitable for your situation. I know that doesn’t make relationship prospects much easier though.

>>34722007
Nah I don't come up on google, at least not easily. Even then no mugshot or anything was posted. From what I've researched, moving abroad shouldn't be an issue once I'm off the register

>>34721945
Nice puffy innies are incredibly arousing

An outie vag roast beef unfortunately isnt appealing at all

>>34722015
>once I'm off the register
Oh good, so you can get off? Ik you can’t get into specifics, but another thing that would matter to me is how it affected the victim. I can’t rly think of a victimless sex offense. But, i dont think you should suffer and be unloved forever.

>>34722034
It was possession, not grooming if that makes sense. And yeah I get off in 2030

>>34722046
Oh okay. Well I think my previous post still applies. I would just need to like you as a whole person and hopefully could develop some understanding surrounding it after getting to know you. Though I am probably in the minority because I have low self esteem and have also dealt with mental episodes where I felt like I ruined my life. I do think most women might be a little horrified. Hate to say it because you seem like you are working hard on yourself.

>>34722070
No it's ok anon, I appreciate everything you've said. Sorry about your low self esteem, you seem pretty cool to me

>>34721945
>What is it you like about seeing pussy??
I don't really like seeing it most of the time, like sometimes there will be a very aesthetically beautiful pussy and that really does something to my brain. Like the other anon said innie pussy specifically really gets to me sometimes like I start drooling and my brain sort of freezes, but if I had a gf who didn't have a pussy like that, it's fine I'd still love her for who she is.

>>34721927
No.

>>34721990
I am very much on the side of "exes are exes for a reason." She ended it because of her own mental health, and that could just as easily happen again. But if you are set on putting romance back on the table, I don't think the specific number matters much.

>>34721957
pretty much what other anon said, assuming I got to know you and you seemed very genuine I would give you a chance but obviously would be skeptical at first. I wouldn't accept an adult who abused kids or raped several women, though.

>>34697011
Most of those are terms that refer to femmes. I am gay, so I don't like this new trend of appealing to straggotry.

>>34723330
>>34723801
Both valid answers. Thank you anons

Why feminism not popularize full equality with pegging?

>>34724019
Are you asking women or men?

>>34689132
Trying to keep this constructive, it's because in general nobody cares about our problems, least of all women. Part of growing up as a man is learning to accept that nobody is coming to save us, and that we're expected to live our lives of quiet desperation without complaint, which most of us do. However it can be hard to hold one's tongue when women who exist in a society whose sole concern is catering to their needs and pandering to their egos, act like they've got it so rough, while so many of us are trying to find the will to push on through existential crises on a daily basis.

I'd like to give a more nuanced answer, but without knowing what issue was originally being discussed, that's somewhat difficult. In the meantime, I'm happy to elaborate on anything I've said.

>>34697124
>I don't want any man attempting to pick me up when I'm just trying to exist in public
I assume by "any man" you mean residents of the not people zone? Or if Henry Cavill hits you up are you keeping that same "I'm LITHURALLY just trying to exist" energy? But in all seriousness, why does this bother you so much? Also, did it ever occur to you that they're "just trying to exist in public" as well? I mean I get we live in a low trust society, but God forbid a guy tries to talk to a pretty girl anymore.

>>34724511
>nobody cares about our problems, least of all women.
>we're expected to live our lives of quiet desperation without complaint, which most of us do
This is why women don't care, it's up to men to change this

>I don't want any man attempting to pick me up when I'm just trying to exist in public
This is the kind of tedious virtue signalling that unattractive women engage in to make themselves seem more desirable than they actually are. In reality, this femanon either doesn't get approached by men in public at all, or she deliberately puts herself in situations in which she'll be approached, so she can reject men who don't meet her inflated standards for the ego boost.

>>34723330
>But if you are set on putting romance back on the table, I don't think the specific number matters much.
That's fair. I think I've been aiming to wait for that point more for my own mental health, then. Sort of like when I'm happier with myself, see if she wants to give us a try again if she's happier with herself too.

>>34724511
Why do you assume women haven't had to learn this lesson either, or don't go through the same thing? I've worked with men and women of abuse, homelessness, addiction, and the number one lesson all of us learn equally: no one is coming to save you. Men pandering as simps is not the same as an actual support system because they all disappear when a real friend is needed, and even then, only pretty women get that. The average woman just coasts by like anyone else. You act like women get extra support or something just for existing. Yes, pretty women get bought drinks but anyone who has experienced real hardship knows it's fucking bullshit for anything that actually matters.

Why does it seem like most women including feminists themselves have a pick and choose mentality when it comes to tradition and equality? I've realized a lot of you don't actually hate traditional gender roles because you really only hate the parts that inconvenience you, and many of you aren't 100% for equality because you'd have to do things that only men were expected to do.

>>34724511
> when women who exist in a society whose sole concern is catering to their needs and pandering to their egos

There is a lot missing here. Historically women have been disadvantaged in modernized/western societies. They were expected to do only one thing (aka be mothers and have babies and care for said babies and home) and were other scrutinized when wanting to do otherwise. And then some have the nerve to critique how a women’s body looks after birth as if we had any other choice. Men had full control over the women in their lives, borderline owning them. People are often so much stricter about women’s appearances, so much bullshit when it comes to beauty standards and such women feel pushed to risk their lives in order to be seen as pretty or else the men in their lives don’t treat them with respect. Women are also not taken very seriously in the medical world either, often its much harder to get any kind of meds relating to mental health as doctors chalk it up to weight/pms or some other bs reason, especially black women due to an extremely inaccurate study done in the 90s that said we somehow have a higher tolerance for pain, meaning you literally just have a higher chance of dying because I guess we deserve it somehow? Women only seem so vocal about it now because it is socially acceptable to, we aren’t as scrutinized for saying these things out loud anymore. No one is saying men have their struggles, but its hard to argue that men have it harder than women when men have so much more freedom to live their lives as they please, and generally have more rights socially, politically, and economically.

>>34724574
> tedious virtue signalling that unattractive women engage in to make themselves seem more desirable than they actually are
Unattractive women also statistically just end up going for shittier men because they feel as if they aren’t deserving of any better. Or even worse, give in to pedos or grooming when they’re underage girls. They want to be desirable because you’re literally just seen as worthless as a woman when you aren’t. Appearance matters unfortunately.

>>34725290
> you really only hate the parts that inconvenience you
Men do too. The amount of men these days who expect to be asked out or pay 50/50 on dates is actually ridiculous. I feel like most women wouldn’t mind being trad wifes if men put in the effort to give them that stability instead of giving them that responsibility on top of doing everything the man is doing too. Like if your wife works a typical 9-5, don’t be mad that she isn’t cooking dinner for you everyday or doesn’t clean the entire house by herself every week. In that situation a man would have to do his fair share of the household chores as well.

Ladies: If you were in a LTR and your man wanted to spice things up by sharing you or swinging, how would you react?

Within two days five women asked me what size shoe I wear at work. Is this a current meme/trend? Or just a raunchy joke as it were decades ago

>>34725530
Yeah it means ur feet are rly tiny and you have a small dick and theyre making fun of u
>>34722085
<3

>>34725539
Or inversely hIs feet are really big

Maybe the real problem is the love of convenience overriding our ability to see what others are going through and what they need.

>>34724511
Henry Cavill isn't my type, but I still wouldn't want someone who is approaching me. When men approach me in public to flirt with me, the only thing they know about me is what I look like, and that is nothing to me.

You say it bothers me so much, but the men in here are the ones with their panties in a twist because I want to be able to browse the bookstore or wait in line at a coffee shop without a stranger interjecting themselves into my life. If men are so desperate to talk to people while they're out, they can talk to other men.

>>34724574
I am not unattractive. I'm not a head-turner by any means either. Average-looking women still get bothered by men.

>>34725500
End the relationship.

>>34724574
>This is why women don't care
I would argue it's because you (not necessarily you specifically, but women as a collective) benefit greatly from a system that has perfected extracting labor and resources from men while neglecting their needs.
>it's up to men to change this
On this, you are 100% correct. Thankfully, it would appear we are. Which honestly doesn't surprise me; something has to give, society can't function without men, and unfortunately it kind of forgot to give the majority of men a reason to give a shit.

>>34724877
>Men pandering as simps is not the same as an actual support system because they all disappear when a real friend is needed
Simps regularly sacrifice considerable amounts of time, energy, and money to women who barely acknowledge their existence, to the point where women can and do make entire careers out of manipulating their simps.
>only pretty women get that
Completely false; if a woman is MID or better, I promise you there are dudes in her phone ready to eat a mile of her shit just to get a peek at where it came from.
>You act like women get extra support or something just for existing
They absolutely do. I don't want to jump to accusing you of attempting to gaslight me, but if you can't acknowledge the absurd degree to which women benefit from empathy, material support, social bias, and legal bias, both from their peers and society as a whole, then I struggle to come to any conclusion other than that you're arguing in bad faith. I hope that's not the case.

>>34726159
I'm not arguing in bad faith, but I consider myself average in looks and have never experienced what you're talking about so I must either be ugly, unlucky, or it's overexaggerated. I still don't consider profiting off of simps real support in tragic times, though. I don't know any girls who received any of this either except for the particularly good looking ones. I think you might be the one arguing with a bias though considering you act like the system only extracts labor/resources from men and not from people as a whole, though. I also want to point out doing shit in hopes of a date or sex isn't real support either, even if it is profitable in other ways. I just can't in good faith pretend women have it easy mode when I made it my life's work to help people in really bad situations and have seen a good amount of women also wind up in the cracks along with the men. Homelessness, addiction, child abuse, trafficking, and abuse all happen equally, and people don't really get support in general. While women get support in some abusive situations or rape cases, usually that requires them being a perfect victim which isn't as common as you'd think.
this boils down to: attractive people get life easy mode. Just as attractive men get away with egregious behavior, so do attractive women. We all focus on what we're jealous of. Men tend to focus on the top 10% of women with easy mode rather than average who don't waste time collecting faggot simps online. I do have to question how quickly you went to assuming me trying to gaslight you or me having a different perspective as not acknowledging something I haven't seen or experience as "bad faith", though. Actually, yeah, you're the one in bad faith now that I reread it. "society as a whole" like anyone has it easy in this society LOL. It's designed to profit and fuck people over, man or woman, what are you on?

>>34725343
>Historically women have been disadvantaged in modernized/western societies
Respectfully, who cares? How is this weak, cliche argument relevant to the lived experience of you, or me, or anyone else on this rock at this moment? You want to act like women had it so rough, would you like a history lesson on what life was like for the common man? Even if we ignore the whole "universal male suffrage predates universal female suffrage by a mere fifty years" thing, I don't think you ladies have anything that can compare to Omaha beach, or the fact that men are to this day required to register for the draft AKA legally acknowledge their life is worth less than yours.
>People are often so much stricter about women's appearances
They made an entire fat acceptance/body positivity movement to coddle the fragile female ego, what are you talking about? Meanwhile women will openly, unapologetically, and within earshot of HR disqualify men for being under six feet.
>especially black women
So... let's talk black dudes who exclusively date (obese) white women, is it because they're basically all losers, and black women are wise to their bullshit? I've always gotten the vibe it wasn't a choice on their part, so much as it was a lack of options. Sorry if that came out of nowhere, it's just white men and black women don't really get to have many candid conversations.
>men have so much more freedom to live their lives as they please
How do you mean? In my experience people clutch their pearls if you even criticize a woman.
>generally have more rights socially, politically, and economically
Can you give a few examples of rights we have that you don't?

>>34726008
>the only thing they know about me is what I look like
I mean, that's all anyone knows about you until they talk to you.
>You say it bothers me so much
I feel like you said that.
>without a stranger interjecting themselves into my life
I mean, fair, but they have no way of knowing that until you tell them.

>>34726195
You need to chill, I'm trying to keep this civil and hopefully constructive. I'm not assuming anything, I literally left room for the idea that I'm missing a piece of the picture. You and I may have vastly different lived experiences.
>I still don't consider profiting off of simps real support in tragic times
>doing shit in hopes of a date or sex isn't real support either
Support doesn't have to be motivated by altruism. Also speaking from experience and observation, it's rarely "doing shit in hopes of a date or sex" it's more "I like this girl, and according to all those Disney movies I watched and what multiple women have told me outright, I'm supposed to lay down my time, energy, and resources until she likes me back." Let's table the "who has it worse" debate for a second, I'd like to hope you can at least acknowledge women give men terrible advice about women. Not many simps are aware that they're simps, most of 'em are just dumbasses who don't know better, and are trying their best.

Anyway, I feel like you're looking at this from a mostly high trauma, worst situations imaginable scenario, and you know what? You're right. That's a hard thing to quantify. I'm mostly talking about day to day interactions, and the positive biases women benefit from, in particular.

>>34726294
I mean, you were the one who started the conversation with "no one is coming to save you" and talking about existential crises, so naturally I assumed we were talking about actual hard shit. I said yes women get drinks as acknowledgement of sure, women get some benefit in a lot of day to day scenarios, but you kind of brushed that off for some reason even though now it is funnily enough rolling back to that point.
I mean, I see what you're saying with that sort of support, but I still stand by that support still only extends to certain women. I won't say whether it's the minority or majority, but even in my day to day life most of the females around me weren't extended that except for stacy's or the occasional becky/vicky who tried too hard to be a stacy through social circles, make up, and possibly a boob job. a lot of men focus on the few cases of women having it easy to ignore real hardship. That's not referencing you, that's just what happens in general: it's glorified what it's like to be a woman, whether it be by trannies or other groups, because people don't realize context matters. Not every woman is a californian born, white, middle class girl. Tons are born in shitty circumstances, where the closest they get from being a woman is an opportunity to be a prostitute, rather than anything actually beneficial. There are tons of places where it's bad, in the world, but even the states, growing up in the deep south is far different than liberal new york or California.

>>34726249
> entire fat acceptance/body positivity movement to coddle the fragile female ego
yes, but the fat positive movement didn’t encourage any real acceptance in the outside world. If you ask any fat women their experience going out and socializing they will tell you their skinnier friends get hit on. Every single one of them. Also I’ve seen a good amount of fat women clown on fat positive influencers because instead of being the positive change they want to see in the world they complain and ragebait other influencers and celebrities ultimately just giving people material to fatshame them and stereotype fat people in general. And that doesn’t change the fact you need to put more effort into your appearance as a woman. A medium ugly woman will always have a harder time navigating life than a medium ugly man. Even if a woman is ugly and does extraordinary things or is a positive influence, people will have the MOST to say about their appearance.
> and within earshot of HR disqualify men for being under six feet.
yeah height is the ONLY thing men need to worry about dude. Men will talk shit about women having tits that sag too much, a tummy that’s too big, an ass that’s too flat, celluite, having big tattoos or piercings, a pussy that’s an innie instead of an outie, etc etc.
>white men and black women don't really get to have many candid conversations.
Maybe its just not common in your area but honestly around me I see black women and white men interacting and dating a lot. I have a friend who is afro latino and she just announced her engagement to a white man. I think it’s important for different races to have honest conversations with each other and understand each other in general, because often people let their general, sometimes incorrect biases get in the way of forming meaningful relationships.

>>34726386
continued
that being said, I acknowledge men have it rough, just not for the whole simping for women and having to pay for dates. Legal crap, abuse situations, war, and other trauma is horrendous. But if you try to fight for that with retorts against women or how difficult you perceive them to have it, it actually nullifies any of those points because it's no longer going to be empathized but rather a competition of survival to validate their own struggles. It no longer becomes productive and instead defaults to bullshit. Whether you're okay with that is your call, but be aware. It also ends up feeling backhanded because there are tons of men who only pull "but men trauma!" for the sake of shitting on "the feminists". Not all are like that, but plenty are and will do it for the sake of bad faith takes.
I am not ignoring your takes on men, simping, and disney movies, I just have no real input to that take because I haven't experienced that personally and because I work with a lot of heavy trauma including childhood shit, is not the norm of the people in my day to day life. That is not me saying it doesn't exist, I just haven't experienced or seen much of it to evaluate how beneficial it truly is.

>>34726386
> a lot of men focus on the few cases of women having it easy to ignore real hardship
this can also just be a result of men just not. speaking candidly and deeply enough with the women in their life, if any. Which well, is likely if you’re on 4chan in the first place.
I’ve made a few friends from this board, and the men I do talk to usually say that I’m one of the few black girls they’ve talked to or formed any type of platonic relationship with. And there isn’t a lot of girls on this site to begin with. A lot of these ideas that men have in their head about what it’s like to be a girl, especially a cis girl can be debunked so easily by just. talking to more women around them. Instead they decide on turning on the animalistic side of their brain which only asks for sex and intimate relationship, undervaluing what they can gain knowledge wise from talking to different women in a constructive manner. And obviously this board isn’t the best way to do it lol, as most of the women here also have issues of their own but I digress.

For femanons: do you think society in general is/will be getting worse? It feels like nothing matters anymore, that every job, law, or societal function just exists to keep us within a barrier because moving outside that barrier is scary

>>34726008
You're still virtue-signalling. Again, you either don't get approached by men in public or you don't get approached by men who meet your inflated standards, which you pretend is equivalent to harassment to get yourself attention online. The tone of every post you've made ITT makes it blindingly obvious.

>the only thing they know about me is what I look like, and that is nothing to me.
Yet you're willing to reject men entirely for reasons such as:

>being smokers (cigarettes or weed)
>having differing political beliefs
>owning a dog
>being religious
>taking bathroom selfies or gym selfies
>taking pictures of themselves at pubs/bars
>having long hair
Which by themselves tell you almost nothing about a person, but tells us a great deal about how shallow you really are.

>>34725362
Many women only want to date men who make more than them, which is fair. They also want these men to take of the majority of their shared needs and wants, which is also fair. The issue I have is they'll still expect men to do half the chores in the house. If a man is paying 60% of the bills, it shouldn't be ridiculous for him to expect his wife to do 60% of the chores in the house. It doesn't matter if he's doing back-breaking work or if he has a cushy job, because she gets to pocket a larger percentage of her paycheck for herself.
>The amount of men these days who expect to be asked out or pay 50/50 on dates is actually ridiculous.
Why is that ridiculous? Again, you're holding onto a gender role because it benefits you, but you'll talk about equality when it comes a gender that inconveniences you. Btw, it's also mad hypocritical of redpill men to demand traditional women while also wanting her to go 50/50. This hypocrisy is just more common with women.

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>>34726386
>>34726400
Overall fair, valid points. Thanks for putting thought into your posts.
>existential crises, so naturally I assumed we were talking about actual hard shit
We can talk about the "hard shit" you brought up, but you assumed wrong; I was talking about existential crises, which is why I said existential crises. What I mean is, I feel like most people are familiar with the concept of where a woman simply is, a man must become... well, I have no idea what I'm supposed to become. I have no idea what I'm supposed to be working towards or what my purpose is supposed to be. If you care I can elaborate in detail, but for now I'll just say that I do not feel valued, respected, or considered by the society in which I live. Like most men, at my core what I truly want is to marry the woman I'm with, have some kids, maybe build some generational wealth, and avoid trouble wherever possible... and it feels like, again, the society in which I live seems engineered to undermine all of that. I often ask myself why I'm here, and what I'm supposed to care about. I rarely have an answer. Anyway, as for the hard shit you brought up,
>Homelessness
You gave examples of things that "all happen equally" and opened with homelessness? Most homeless are men. I've been briefly homeless myself, can confirm it's unpleasant.
>addiction
I admittedly know fuck all about this beyond knowing getting into drugs was a bad idea. I struggle with empathy towards addicts, because it seems like such a common sense thing to not do.
>child abuse
I've been on the receiving end of this; all but one of my abusers were women. I think this is why I have such a chip on my shoulder, and am so cynical when it comes to the motivations of women; I've seen how deftly they maneuver the label of "victim" to manipulate the courts, the education system, and their peers.
>trafficking
Props for acknowledging this as an issue that doesn't have exclusively female victims. When you bring up trafficking

-TBC-

>>34726386
>>34726400
>>34727439
-continuing-

most people's thoughts immediately go to one thing, and the millions of men worldwide who are forced into labor, often until they are literally worked to death, just sort of falls by the wayside. Slavery has never been more common than it is today, and I believe the only reason it isn't more widely discussed is because to do so would be bad for optics and would undermine certain narratives.
>suicides
You didn't bring this up, but I will. Men make up 80% of suicide victims, why do you suppose that is?
>women get some benefit
>that support still only extends to certain women
Right, but my point is that the comparison here is some/certain women vs no men, or a statistically insignificant amount of men. It's a matter of objective fact that people are generally more pleasant and helpful towards women than men, and yeah, obviously the hotties benefit more from this.
>stacy's or the occasional becky/vicky
I know what these are, but not what they mean.
>an opportunity to be a prostitute
Once again, you're arguing that a non-ideal option is comparable to no option at all. A woman born into "shitty circumstances" can use her body, should she? Maybe not, but the fact remains that is one option she has that her male counterpart does not. Also, lets not kid ourselves that women stop doing this once they reach a certain income bracket.
>growing up in the deep south is far different
Preaching to the choir. I'm from south of the line.

>>34726388
>but the fat positive movement didn't encourage any real acceptance in the outside world
Oh, 100%. It was absolutely an economically motivated grift that got dropped like a bad habit by all it's so-called "icons" (Lizzo, Meghan Trainor, etc) once the discipline shot was available.
>If you ask any fat women
Pass.
>I've seen a good amount of fat women clown on fat positive influencers
Good. They're fucking clowns. The only "positive change" fat people need to be concerned about is losing weight, or more accurately, losing fat. "Fat acceptance" is a dangerous ideology; I don't see how anyone can argue otherwise when fat influencers drop dead with enough regularity to qualify as a running gag. I say all this as someone who knows what it's like to be obese, and what it takes to lose weight without surgery or the discipline shot.
>And that doesn't change the fact you need to put more effort into your appearance as a woman
Maybe as a black woman? Ya'll have a lot going on aesthetically that isn't for me, so maybe black dudes have certain expectations, but for white women/east Asian women (what I'm into) natural beauty is the best beauty. Wear nice clothes, maybe a little tasteful and conservative make-up, and you're golden. If you're dating dudes that don't know how to dress or groom themselves that's on you.
>Even if a woman is ugly and does extraordinary things or is a positive influence
Can you give an example?
>yeah height is the ONLY thing men need to worry about dude
Are you serious right now? Even if that were true (and it fucking isn't) height is something men have no control over, literally "it's not over, because it never fucking began." Meanwhile, all fat chicks have to do is put the fork down and step away from the table.
>Men will talk shit about women
Uh-huh, and women are nothing but kind to men? Social media isn't full of women dunking on male height, balding, dick size? There wasn't discussion of an epidemic of "chopped" men a few months ago?

>>34726388
>Maybe its just not common in your area
I do live in a very segregated city.
>I think it's important for different races to have honest conversations with each other and understand each other in general
I agree, but it's often more difficult said than done.

>>34726423
>men just not. speaking candidly and deeply enough with the women in their life
This isn't as easy as you think it is, a woman really has to earn trust for me to be any kind of vulnerable with her. Not only because I've been conditioned to keep my feelings to myself, but because ironically enough it's usually the women who are most outspoken about men needing to be open with their feelings who are the quickest to cry "emotional labor" once you show them anything real. Speaking anecdotally, one of the most outspoken feminists I know, I'm talking this chick has Medusa tattooed on her thigh, straight up told me men crying is one of her biggest "icks." Also, another reason men are reluctant to be vulnerable with women is we've all seen women use a man's vulnerabilities against him. I've seen it plenty of times, I've even experienced it a few times before I learned my lesson, and it's still crazy to me how a man can confide a secret, a shame, a weakness to a friend, or girlfriend, or spouse, and then there's a falling out and there's no concept of "this was told to me in confidence, trust is sacred" nope. It's like a switch gets flipped and now he's the enemy, and there's no line you won't cross. Sorry, didn't mean for that to turn into a rant, my point is if you're ever wondering why men are reluctant to speak with you candidly or deeply, it's because if he's older than 25, he has probably learned the hard way that anything he tells you can and will be used against him at some point.

>>34727139
>Yet you're willing to reject men entirely for reasons such as:
Attraction isn't negotiable. Are your standards, preferences, and boundaries mutable, or are they reflections of your values and feelings that exist for a reason? I imagine it's the same with her. All that said, I'm not seeing anything particularly outlandish in that list she posted.
>being smokers (cigarettes or weed)
Both smell like absolute shit, and in my experience people who smoke weed aren't nearly as functional without it as they'd like to imagine themselves to be. I share this disqualifier with the femanon, even though I enjoy the occasional cigar.
>having differing political beliefs
Yeah, "agree to disagree" isn't really a thing in the modern zeitgeist. I don't care if a girl is a 10, it can't really work if she's into protest cuckery, and I'm cheering on the guy pressing his knee into her back. I'd still fuck her, though.
>owning a dog
I love dogs! I also have zero desire to own one! They are always "on," and a lot of responsibility.
>being religious
Kind of overlaps with political views, if God is the foundation upon which I've built my life, how am I supposed to make it work with someone who doesn't or won't believe in him? A fish may love a bird, but where would they build their home?
>taking bathroom selfies
Super reasonable! This is fucking cringe! (Also cringe when you do it, ladies)
>or gym selfies
Oh come on, I can't have just one? Seriously though there's better ways to show off your body in a photo.
>taking pictures of themselves at pubs/bars
She may just be a teetotaler? Or maybe she wouldn't mind if someone else took the picture?
>having long hair
I mean I'm not really into girls with short hair, and dudes with long hair tend to be kind of douchey, so I get it.

>>34727439
Ah, I guess I can't relate. I can't have kids because of a medical procedure needed in the past, so as a woman I'm constantly feeling the same because women have their own standards of being allowed to exist. While different, it is still something that happens to us too in many ways. But I do know men probably have their own distinct version.
>homeless
all I can speak is from my experience and I have met equally both. Granted, I include things such as unstable housing (like shitty unsafe shelters, couch surfing unsafely, still being in a bad living situation, etc). So unless you are pulling some statistics, just using your experience doesn't exactly provide a real counter.
>addiction
no, I feel you on that. one thing I've been proud of is to be careful with addictions (granted I still use weed, but that's for chronic pain more than anything). But I still think people generally deserve second chances, and addicts always deserve a chance to live differently. I also empathize because before a certain point I just thought it was obvious, too, but then the health issues happened and I can see why just not wanting to be in pain (not mental or emotional, real physical tangible pain) would push someone in that direction. I have caution with helping them (I give a certain amount of chances in a practical way and if they fuck up or show they aren't serious, get the fuck out). I don't see any fairness in judging beyond whether or not they are determined to get better, because it's silly and pointless. I also don't need to agree with something to have empathy. that's retarded imo. granted, I say I have EMPATHY towards addicts but that is not the same as enabling. If you do shit like abuse people, rape, or hurt your kids in any way for the sake of using, they deserve death or worse. Being an addict is not an excuse, just a horrible state of being where people deserve to not have to be due to things they can't control (if you choose to go back it's on you)

>>34726771
Bumping

>>34728290
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>>34727439
I was trafficked as a kid so while my abuse included women I had been abused by well over 50 men and probably only 5 or so women (granted, I consider them worse for being willing to traffic little girls, but still). The justice system fucks everyone equally, the reason why anyone can get away with things by using such titles or tactics is because it was already ineffective to begin with. I've seen judges who were on probation for trying to kill their wife who would oversee domestic violence cases lol. fucking sucks for everyone. but yes, I agree, women are not exempt from accountability, or are not above evil. they for sure are not the fairer sex, just different.
>>34727510
Don't forget tons of women get forced into labor, too. Tons of women from poor countries get imported as house maids or nannies, have their passport withheld, and are also stuck in labor or dangerous situations. I acknowledge physical labor has it's own hardship, and am not trying to compare that, but just pointing out "forced labor" goes beyond physical.
>suicides
I am not trying to avoid addressing the statistics but I do think it's with a lot of mental health statistics or trauma ones where there's a lot of skewing. I'd assume a big chunk of suicides is war veterans, though. I should point out in my personal life I actually know double the female suicide victims than men, hence my own skepticism for just using raw statistics. But it's a big problem, for men and women, in different ways, yes.
>some women vs no men
I have to be real as a woman who actively was laughed at when I was on chemo and dying and trying to escape an abuse situations by multiple therapists, hotlines, and tons of resources I have not personally seen or experienced this benefit. I assume it exists in some way, but beyond hot women or lucky ones I see so many women who don't get it. Take that as you will.

>>34728316
I'm really sorry for what happened to you anon, that's terrible

>>34702609
>>doesn't own a dog
tell me you're mentally ill without telling me you're mentally ill

>>34728316
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>>34727510
>becky/vicky
I just use that for a woman who isn't quite as high value as a stacy (whether it be charisma, navigating social situations, looks, what have you) and commonly cling to a stacy or desperately try to be one through aforementioned strategies.
>prostitute
Being a prostitute is extremely dangerous to a woman's body in terms of safety, infection, and more. That's like saying men can do hard labor to get out of situations or just join the military so it must not be a big deal, no? Let's not be fucking stupid here. Let's also not minimize how horrible it can be to be forced in such situations. I also was not saying that women stop at any point, but there's different context for women who do it because it's easy (which often means they are in situations for it to be safer and be pickier with male clients) vs. pure necessity which can be incredibly dangerous. You can acknowledge multiple components of difficulty without trying to diminish one, and I have to call bullshit that you act like it's a free out in any way. if you are doing it to surive, you can't be picky, are at a high risk of rape (no, not white women "rape" because they didn't get paid, but real violence), violent crimes, pregnancy, infection (which is easily devastating), and more. Also, let's go a step further: you say men don't have that as an opportunity but women do? Have you not heard of gay for pay? Gay men are willing to pay exponential amounts for the right fetishes. What, should I be asking more men why they don't eat literal shit for a living or accept having their assholes fisted because it's technically a way out? If you're going to have an inconsiderate take, at least be equal about it instead of looking for a way to make a false comparison.

>>34728332
true, but when desperate people get desperate they don’t see those blaring warning signs. And the people taking advantage know that, they’ll make themselves sounds so enticing. It’s upsetting really.

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Women:
- what soc threads do you generally browse/add people from?
- where do you go to meet/talk to strangers online?
Used to enjoy talking to women on Omegle, it shut down and I haven't really been able to find a decent replacement since.
Have tried Discord servers but they tend to be really cliquey and boring, trying to force yourself into the conversation as they all just spam shitty memes or whatever is just unpleasant. I much prefer meeting one-on-one

>>34728290
>>34728316
>I can't have kids because of a medical procedure needed in the past
>women have their own standards of being allowed to exist
Yeah, especially when it comes to having kids and the expectations and pressures around that, I can see how that'd be a real motherfucker. I also understand how "don't want to" and "can't ever have" can really fuck with your head. I'm sure when some random dipshit in a social setting hits you with "so when are you having kids" it has to hit in a very unpleasant way. My struggle is a little different; I can have kids, I want kids, I just don't know that I have the capacity to be a good parent. Not just because of my own issues with mental health and trauma, but because... well, we've established that the society in which we live makes little sense to me, so how am I realistically supposed to guide a new human to thrive in it?
>I include things such as unstable housing
So did I. During my brief tenure as an unhoused American I wasn't sleeping under a bridge, screaming at pigeons; I was mostly couch-surfing, although I did have to get creative with where I was sleeping a few times.
>second chances
Just straight up agree on this, it's a big part of why I hate cancel culture so much. People make mistakes, they need to be allowed to learn from them, and not be judged in perpetuity for what they said or did at their lowest point. I agree addicts need help, but I also know myself enough to know I'm not the one to help them, so I just avoid them. Not from a place of judgment, but a place of caution.
>I was trafficked as a kid
Well that's fucking awful.
>I agree, women are not exempt from accountability, or are not above evil
Don't get me wrong, it's good that you know that, but society as a whole hasn't caught up. The amount of people who reacted to the Heard/Depp trial with "A woman making stuff up just to harm a man? I would've never imagined!" is genuinely concerning.

-TBC-

>>34728290
>>34728316
-continuing-
>Tons of women from poor countries
Yeah I'm familiar with, for example, what happens in Dubai behind the scenes.
>suicides
See, the only person I knew who committed suicide was a man, and I had another friend attempt it, who was also a man. Anecdotes aside, the numbers are pretty consistent and undeniable, and paint a clear picture, and I say that as someone who is very critical of MUH STATISTICS, and in particular, people who blindly defer to statistics without considering, or even understanding the context around them.
>I have to be real
That sucks and while I've never been laughed at while on chemo and dying, I have been laughed at by people I thought cared about me at low points in my life. People fucking suck, and so much "empathy" is performative.

>>34728328
Listen, I like dogs, but they're a lot of work, and can be extremely overstimulating. Not wanting to own a dog and deal with all that entails doesn't make someone a bad person.

>>34728332
People who are abusive are often very good at hiding it until dependency and vulnerability are established, and often have no idea they're abusive.

>>34728338
>Stacy
I'm not sure what a Stacy is but from context clues I infer it's a conventionally attractive woman?
>prostitute
I feel like I triggered the fuck outta you and you're putting a lot of words in my mouth. Yes, people in shitty situations often have to do shitty things just to survive, and that's, well, shitty. Yes, I'm aware men can engage in prostitution. I guess where my head was at is, in my experience prostitution in the context of an overt, agreed upon transaction isn't nearly as common as women making themselves sexually available to men who can give them what they value, in other words, an unspoken understanding.
>inconsiderate
Not trying to be inconsiderate, I just try to stay rooted in reality and my brain is a very pragmatic machine.

>>34726249
>I mean, that's all anyone knows about you until they talk to you.
Incorrect. If I meet a man on a dating app or through a friend, they have more information about me than just what I look like.

>>34727139
I, and everyone else, am allowed to have whatever parameters for a relationship that I want. If you want to think they're shallow, that's fine. I don't care. If a man doesn't want to date me because of literally any reason, I don't get upset because I do not feel entitled to male attention.

>>34727698
>She may just be a teetotaler? Or maybe she wouldn't mind if someone else took the picture?
You're right that I don't drink, but I am fine dating someone who has one on occasion. But someone who goes somewhere specifically to drink is not my person.

>>34728328
I don't dislike dogs. I just prefer a quiet, clean home. I also like to travel abroad and take day-trips. Neither is conducive with owning a dog.

>>34729139
Stacy is just a high value woman. she's usually able to navigate social situations well, and usually pretty attractive even at a baseline level. They can be catty, though, because that comes with the territory of being a woman who is socially acceptable.
>triggered
while I don't like the fact you used that term, I don't like the argument overall because men will just throw that on the wall like it's an easy way to be successful when it has more pitfalls than it's worth, and like I said, I do believe sex work is extremely detrimental to people's health, with the exception of those lucky enough to find a sugar daddy who is kind and wealthy. Tends to be a bad faith one. I don't really know much about the second portion of what you're saying because I haven't fucked to get what I wanted, and have only met a few women who did. I have however met men and women who were in desperate enough situations with unfortunate levels of trauma/low self esteem to become a prostitue, and it is never pretty, and often has extremely damaging consequences. For both physical and mental health. I was just making the counterargument of a technical opportunity is not the same as a good one, and instead of defaulting to it's an opportunity to women, we should evaluate what that means (and in the case of bad faith ones of it's a good opportunity for them, I will point out men have their own "this is a technical opportunity but sucks" that not all women have as well). I also want to point out that a woman using sex, who I assume is in a fairly okay situation, to get what they want is contextually a lot different and is indeed a free opportunity. You, however, in your last post, I'm going to assume conflated those to be the same.... which.... it's not. And it's really gross to even remotely imply, or perceive it as such.

>>34729193
>If I meet a man on a dating app
All a man will learn from a dating app is the carefully curated version of yourself that you've put on display. I think it's common knowledge at this point that dating apps are a terrible way to meet anyone for anything more meaningful than a hookup/FWB situation. Not saying it can't happen, but the numbers are against you, since dating apps are essentially just a platform for strangers to lie to each other; they're certainly not somehow more meaningful than noticing someone based on their appearance, talking to them if they pass the vibe check, and seeing if anything is there, AKA how humans continued existing for hundreds of thousands of years before the internet.

Listen, I'm the last person you have to sell on the idea that you can have whatever qualifiers/disqualifiers you want, I'm just saying the rationalization behind this one falls apart under about ten seconds of scrutiny.
>But someone who goes somewhere specifically to drink is not my person
I get that. I'll go to a unique bar in a new city, or sometimes I'll go out for like a special occasion, but I won't seriously date women who regularly "go out."
>I don't dislike dogs. I just prefer a quiet, clean home
One of my girl's dogs woke me up four times last night barking at some random ass shadow in the backyard. Keeping the floor mud and snow free is a constant battle. There is no end to the hair; I'm constantly having to apply a roller to my clothes before going out so I don't look like trash. What I'm saying is, I feel you.
>I also like to travel abroad and take day-trips
Same, and if we go anywhere over night we have to figure out who is going to watch/check in on the pups. A point if contention is when we go hiking she wants to bring the pups, and I absolutely don't; I want to disconnect and decompress, not have to herd animals and worry about how other dogs on the trail are going to behave. I love dogs, but they're a hassle, and I've already told her no more.

>>34730087
>Stacy is just a high value woman
I figured, like I said context clues got me there in the end. I'm not a fan of this whole Stacy/Becky/Vicky terminology, the names sound too similar, and don't really evoke anything on their own. "Chad" on the other hand is great, Chad makes sense, you say Chad and on a primal level everyone just understands we're talking about "your looks are your personality" incarnate. Every guy knows Chad. Every guy has listened to the girl he wants to be with cry about Chad. Every guy has experienced the phenomenon of being criticized for saying/doing the same things which people celebrated Chad for saying/doing. Deep down, every guy wants to be Chad. Anyway, I know you didn't pioneer incel lingo, I'm just saying it's odd they got it so right with Chad and then came up with three similar sounding names for three different archetypes of women.
>I don't like the fact you used that term
I meant no offense, I was being literal, I was saying "I clearly said something that set you off."
>it's an easy way to be successful when it has more pitfalls than it's worth
I mean isn't that up to the woman engaging in said thottery? OnlyFans is "empowering," haven't you heard? Making it as a streamer or content creator is way easier as a woman; you don't even have to be good at anything, or have anything interesting to say, you just have show a little cleavage and tell the simps what they want to hear. Instagram has no shortage of twenty something baristas with feeds full of pics of them in exotic locations, and I hate to break it to you, if their fathers aren't paying for those trips, then their daddies are. Now, if a woman is literally sucking dick for her next fix, am I going to try to spin that as anything but a tragedy? No. No I am not. But, at that point I'd also argue prostitution is a symptom, and not the disease.
>I haven't fucked to get what I wanted
Yeah, but like... you could, and that's kind of my entire point.

-TBC-

>>34730087
-continued-

Earlier you brought up jealousy, and you're right. There are days where I am just burnt the fuck out, and feel completely whored out by my work, where I envy women, beautiful women especially, for being able to just exist and have doors open for them... or do a little more than just exist and have even more doors open for them. You seem to think attractive men live lives of comparable ease, and they do have an easier time getting female attention, and if I'm being honest the pursuit of female attention is the motivation for at least half of what men do, but there's still no escaping "a man must become."
>often has extremely damaging consequences
Yeah. I don't know any prostitutes, but I do know some "content creators" of varying degrees of success or lack thereof, and the ones that made it seem to really be enjoying the bag without any hangups, but the ones who have it all out there and didn't break four figures aren't doing so hot. We'll see how kind time is to them. I don't know any porn stars, but I have seen what some of them have shared regarding their experiences. Riley Reid seems to be struggling and have a lot of regrets, yet is still making porn... feels kind of tragic. Lana Rhoades has spoken at length about exploitation in the industry, yet still has an OF. Mia Khalifa needs to be studied; her time in porn is the only reason anyone even knows who she is, but she absolutely loses her fucking mind if someone brings up that she used to do porn. So I agree, reducing one's self to a sex object seems to be... not great for overall mental health.
>instead of defaulting to it's an opportunity to women, we should evaluate what that means
I think the challenge with that is, as a whole, men are running low on empathy for women, and are kind of fatigued from constantly hearing about women's issues, while being told our own issues aren't so bad, or even being told they don't exist in the first place.

-TBC (woman why you got me writing novels?-

>>34730087
-continued-

For me it all comes back one question, and that question is, "what is the purpose of civilization?" Seriously, why do we bother with any of this? I think the simplified answer is to protect resources, keep women and families safe, and keep out "the other." You might already see the issue here; our society in it's present state fails categorically at all three. Why should men care about protecting resources when his can just be taken away? Why should men care about women when most of them don't have access to women? How is a man supposed to feel like he's part of a greater whole when all of his neighbors are strangers? These are all dilemmas I struggle with, and frankly, I have it better than a lot of men out there.

I'm fortunate enough to have a beautiful woman who gives me peace and wants to marry me. In a thriving society this would be an unambiguously wonderful thing, but say I do marry her, and we do start a family. I'm good to her, I strike a good balance between being a provider and being present, and one day she decides that isn't enough. She wants more. Who protects my wealth, my family, my identity as a father and a man? Certainly not the state. Then who? Nobody. So why do I care, what is my purpose? How do I do the right thing and be a good man? What does that even mean anymore?

Society in it's present state doesn't benefit anyone except the top 20% of men, and we don't need civilization for that; bonobos and gorillas perfected that long ago. Sorry to drop all that on you, but that's the deep dive on those existential crises I was talking about. That's what men are silently wrestling with every day.

Anyway... as far as "evaluating what that means" I'm not sure. I don't think any answer I'd give would be particularly helpful; pragmatic machine, remember? You seem pretty smart and educated on this, so what do you think?
>gross to even remotely imply
I'm coming from an honest place, so please keep the shaming to a minimum.

>>34730595
I was talking about prostitution out of desperation, not only fans or instagram thots for designer bags or fancy vacations. do you not understand the different context? also, "you could".... yeah, and men can lose weight and become femboys and ALSO could, what's your fucking point? Like no one's stopping a man from being gay for pay, and degenerates like furry are big in tech and will pay TONS. also, for only fans, it's actually pretty well known 95% make less than minimum wage. It also has it's difficulties, because with streaming and only fans you have to get the pictures done, editing, advertise yourself.... by that point it's not worth a few pennies. Regardless, I was talking about prostitution out of desperation, not bad lifestyle choices. I am jealous of streamers, generally, too. but men also get tons of money, look at markiplier, pewdiepie, or whatever other faggot is the flavor of the month.
>>34730752
I already expressed women also have standards of living that can be easier or difficult depending on the women. It's frustrating working a cut throat business and being told you won't get ahead like a man because you'll get married or become a mom and literally can not have kids. It's frustrating when you are aggressive in your line of work and told to be softer. It's frustrating when your relationships are constantly judged by your "quality of being a wife" (which is based around how well the whole house is cleaned or if you cook, even if you make more than your man does.) There are people who have it easy in this world, and people who do not. Women do not have it inherently easier, just like the average man can't relate to the aforementioned male streamers, or twinks who get hundreds for a butthole picture. Using jealousy as selective bias isn't exactly a valid metric. you don't think women like me who do shit with their lives and had it hard aren't jealous some women get daddies who pay for luxury without lifting a finger? come the fuck on.

>>34730752
I get the last bit because it can be frustrating since some "feminists" stole the term to justify being shitters, but as a second wave you have to realize they're just like how some incels blame all women for their problems. They're not worth listening to. And by not listening to real conversations or situations, and going by jealousy, that's throwing out the baby with the bath water. if I based men's issues off of the incels who vent about chad, I would NEVER take men seriously, because trust me, tons of men cry about nothing just as there's so many who have real problems and difficulties in day to day life. Life is not kind to anyone, everyone is selective, and yes: everyone is jealous of the pretty girl who has to do nothing. I've never had drinks boughts for me, any dates I've been on I paid half. And there are tons of women like me.

>>34730940
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>>34730752
Basing easiness of life on the 1% who don't have to try is a stupid equation, which is why I brought up the men who don't have to try. It's the same thing. Also, don't forget there are pretty women who end up in situations who end up without being able to use their looks to coast for a variety of reasons. regardless, men who throw the baby out with the bathwater to be negative in these conversations actually make the whole men/women's issues harder, because women are less likely to listen when their own problems are minimized because some women have it easier. It's actually just blatantly fucked up, really. You can emphasize the severity of your problems without using it to bring other people down, and when your goal is to bring other people down, you actually lose yourself and the value of your point because no one likes to listen to an asshole who diminishes their experiences (sound familiar with your frustrations?). It's called tact, and if you care about men, you'd make it less about spite/jealousy to the couple of women who have a system they can exploit (which, by the way, society is built on the 1% having it easy and fucking everyone else, and there are tons of males who also use that system).
>>34730828
"why should men care about women without access" yikes. Yikes yikes yikes. If basing your compassion for fellow human is based on that.... you're kind of a piece of shit, really. if I went by that and went by my experiences of negative men in my life my compassion/empathy for men would be in the negatives, it just makes you a dick. I do agree with the other components of difficulty with resources, power struggles to fuck over fellow man (or woman), and loneliness in general. even women are struggling with lack of societies (and even the ones who use simps are just using a poor band aid for a bigger issue).

>>34730828
I mean you're not dumping anything I don't already know or think about myself. So I find it funny you say "that's what men struggle with" like a. I don't work with men who say this already or b. like I haven't already thought or struggled with this. I mean for god's sake when I had cancer my ex stole everything from me because he found a better woman who wasn't bald or struggling with weight, because he literally, and I quote "you were going to die anyways so why would I tell you?" meanwhile half of my money was going to him and our relationship which could of been used so I didn't have to be homeless after I got done handling it. I actually know multiple women who went through this. the judicial/justice system is meant to fuck EVERYONE over, and any fake ass resources designed to "help" comes with a ton of red tape and selectiveness to avoid actual empathy or handling the depth of issues. This isn't a man problem or a woman problem, it's a rotting of the system it's built on, it just manifests very differently. I knew a woman who was a millionaire from her father and had it all stolen because he robbed the joint bank account, hired a good lawyer with that money and used it to win, and she was left with nothing, not even a home. This happens all the time, and making it a man or woman thing misses the point and avoids how deep the corruption goes. Which is a fucking waste of time for anyone who gives shit beyond being jealous of whatever they perceive to be the fairer sex. Even with rape cases, tons of women literally get told to fuck off even with rape kits and objective proof, but because a few woman get away with lying it's because women have it easy, rather than, I dunno, maybe the justice system is biased as hell and doesn't know how to tell right from wrong.

>>34730992
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My issue with your posts isn't your jeasousy, or having a problem with society, or these existential crises. My issue is basing the problems of the world on the people who don't have any is the most asinine approach, and approaching any of this based on access, jealousy, or because you want to believe society isn't making everyone suffer actually makes everything worse. If you only bring this shit up when retarded women are bitching about men to shut them, you never actually involved yourself to help, you just made it about the gender war. You actually make women less likely to care because we only hear about your problems with an agenda. it'll make the association to be that it's competition, and naturally the shut down instinct goes harder for a lot of people. I just can't respect people, who as you said, base empathy on other people because of access or a couple of shitty experiences. It's just not worth listening to, because it's bullshit. that's my biggest problem with YOU: so much of it is bias based on the couple of women who gamed the system rather than addressing the fact that everyone has it bad and the whole system is fucked, and only a couple of people thrive in this world. I'm not saying some women don't bitch about stupid shit. But 90% of men and women both bitch about the other sex, or focus on people who are loud and wrong. It doesn't make you smart or right to focus on that, it makes you misguided. you have real issues and concerns, and I wish you the best, but don't be an asshole when women bring up the real issues we face and how we also have it bad. It's just tiring and exhausting. If more men cared beyond owning the libs or women or whatever other fucking nigger shit there is the world would be a much better place. Same with women and men or conservatives or whatever bullshit. It's all fake and gay.

>>34731012
continued
But I do have to laugh about you talking about your existential crises like it's unique or women don't think about that either, because like I said, as someone who's job is to help people live after tragedy, every person has the same thoughts about it. It's not a man or a woman thing, it's life sucks and we have to get through it even though some people are lucky and just get to coast. Even something as small as being born into the wrong family determines so much of your life, because we all know childhood trauma causes health issues, permanent ruptures to mental and emotional health, etc. etc. this isn't me minimizing you because these are real problems/thoughts, and it sucks they're a thing at all, but let's not get so self centered that it's not an issue for the whole system. Anyways, I'm high, it's my day off, I'm going to play video games. I respect the fight for men's right's, I agree tons of women are stupid, I am jealous of women who get money for just existing or looking pretty, but not all of us are shallow and I know several women who actually struggle because so much of whether they get far is based on if they're pretty even if they're a lawyer, doctor, or social worker. Just please don't conflate your issues with the system, or focus on the specific manifestations in females to avoid the bigger picture. Men's issues are more important than about spite, and should be treated as such. And when it's reduced to that, everyone suffers, whether it be women becoming hateful towards men, or men towards women. Yes, shut down women when they're actually being dipshits but like I said: don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We're all suffering. Just because it's a little different based on gender doesn't mean it's any easier or harder, trust.

what is happening in this thread I've never seen so much text on this site

>>34730992
>You were going to die anyways so why would I tell you?
How did you not kill him right there

>>34729193
>I, and everyone else, am allowed to have whatever parameters for a relationship that I want.
That's so fascinating.

Why would anyone want a relationship with you?

>>34731079
Why r u Mr Meow now

this is mostly aimed at men but i'm bisexual, so women could answer this too :P

i'm F(22), and currently in community college. while i'm open to dating a wide variety of types of people, my #1 type is nerds. like i'm talking thick glasses-wearing, graphic t-shirt wearing (business casual when cleaned up), fandom-obsessed introverted types (a good example of like. a fictional character that's my type is dwight fairfield. seriously. i am OBSESSED with him).

i'm a huge fandom person too, i'm usually into horror media and video games (resident evil, silent hill, a lot of indie stuff like the outlast games, devs like puppetcombo or chillas art), and i draw/write my own projects along with fanart. i LOVE talking about and analyzing media, making fun merchandise like buttons and charms and so on and so forth. i'm also really into alternative fashion, anywhere between gyaru to goth to streetwear to scene (really, the list goes on) and love trying new looks. i feel i'm really compatible with my type, but there's one problem.

while i get that in the current dating world men hardly approach women (at least without being creepy. and there's just generally less queer women in general so they don't approach me either), i don't tend to approach either. i'm very much a friends first kind of person, i could go on dates and stuff sure, but we'd have to be friends for at least a few months before i'd give you the boyfriend/girlfriend title, assuming that was where our relationship was going. i'm very comfortable with my single status, as i'm highly independent emotionally and don't require a relationship to feel like a full person - but of course, i'd love a partner! but it feels like the only people who show attraction to me are people online (as obviously it's easier to be in the same fandom spaces than going somewhere in person), but i'm someone who'd much rather date someone i live in the same town as.....

1/2

there's not really any gaming/nerdy clubs at my campus, and while there is this popular tabletop/nerdy spot in my town (which i really wanna go back to!!! they had a ton of manga/books and junk i really want to check out), but i don't really have any friends (women, or otherwise) who would go with me, and i don't want to just kinda stand around by myself or intrude on other people's good time. i'm an ambivert myself, so while i love going out with people, i highly value respecting their own space as well as my own.

any advice? i know the easy answer could be just "well just go talk to them anyway" or whatever, but i don't know. i'm not shy, again i just don't want to be intrusive. i also hate assuming someone is attracted to me, and i tend to dismiss signals that they might be, which can kind of be a hinderance to developing a relationship. i'm conflicted between being content with my singleness (i had like. 1 boyfriend at 15 whom i dated for like 3 months. so i've been single pretty much my whole adult life), while also having a desire for a romantic counterpart. it's just so hard to find someone who i feel is on the same wavelength as me too so to speak. even with a lot of my friends i always feel there's a sort of disconnect with them, where yeah we're friends, but i don't feel especially in sync with them either due to our interests, values, and so on. i don't tend to develop crushes anymore like i did as a teen, and when i do they usually don't go anywhere which is fine, i'm just. yk LOL

anyway. TLDR; f(22) likes nerdy people. how do i go about developing a relationship with one?

2/2

>>34732256
post in the soc thread for your local area looking for people with similar interests, but lie and put down your gender as male (to filter for genuine interest in nerdy stuff and avoid coomers that add every F). Out yourself as a woman when you're confident that you like the guy, and he will pretty much carry it from there

>>34732256
forgot to add though that you might have trouble dating here because your personality doesn't seem imageboard-integrated (you type like you use tumblr)

>>34732419
yeahhh i mostly lurk everywhere i go, i more like to watch 4chan than actually say much so i don't really talk like one LMFAO. i'm actually more of a fan of reddit

i'll consider the idea. i don't really wanna have to lie but considering how 4chan is that makes sense. thanks anon

>>34732256
Try seeing if there are any open D&D groups you could join? That tabletop spot in town might organize groups. They might also do like an open board game night, someone was telling me a board game shop in my area does that and she goes and plays with random people just for fun

>>34732495
i've actually never actually played D&D before, but i've always wanted to try it. i've never had friends who played it, so i'm only somewhat familiar with it. but that's actually a pretty good idea, thanks :3

>>34732507
I imagine your best odds at finding supremely nerdy men would be in tabletop hobbies. How much fun you have with D&D depends almost entirely on who you are playing with and the overall group dynamic but trying out one session is harmless. It's more fun if people actually try to roleplay a bit and improvise instead of being stiff and treating it like a video game trying to murder everything. Although even if you join a standard board game group I'm sure you'd find what you're looking for

>>34730955
>yikes. Yikes yikes yikes
Uh oh. You're about to put words in my mouth, again, aren't you?
>If basing your compassion for fellow human is based on that
Fucking called it. That's not what I said. There's a difference between having a base level of compassion and goodwill towards people in general, and feeling a desire or compulsion to invest one's time, energy and resources in another, or feeling a like a valued part of something greater than yourself.

>>34730992
>the judicial/justice system is meant to fuck EVERYONE over
For sure. Any good the system does for anyone is purely incidental, the true purpose is the maintenance of the status quo. It's not about justice, it's about order.

>>34731012
>that's my biggest problem with YOU
Well since we're being open, my biggest problem with YOU is that you've made trauma your entire identity and apparently don't know what a paragraph is.

>>34731022
>Anyways, I'm high, it's my day off, I'm going to play video games
You do that. It's not that I don't appreciate the engagement with what I have to say, but you've posted way too much. Go chill a bit, it's good for you. Also, I rolled my eyes and pushed past it this time, but don't ever say "yikes" if you want someone to take anything you have to say seriously. It just reads as an accusation of wrongthink and/or of failing a purity test, because that's exactly what it is.

Women: how do you feel about being slapped and choked as your boyfriend demands that you tell him about the biggest, blackest cock you've ever had inside of you?

>>34731024
People are talking about stuff.

>>34732225
>>34732256
Get into warhammer; you'll be drowning in suitors. You're artsy, and into horror, right? Look up "Flesh-Eater Courts" and thank me later.

>>34732527
yeah, that's actually a really great point. i've also been interested in maybe trying warhammer, but it's expensive from what i've heard, but i'd imagine it draws a similar crowd. even outside of me being interested in nerds, i'd kinda wanna get into both games just for myself (maybe magic too?), they seem like a lot of fun even if i'm more a video game person than a tabletop/cards person. thanks anon!! :P

>>34732564
just looked it up, that looks so fucking awesome. maybe i do gotta invest, i'm def interested. thanks :P

Kind of a question for everyone, but I've got a situation I'm nervous about coming up. Recently asked a friend of mine out - he said yes, we have plans for coffee a week from now. Very excited! Trouble is, he's hosting a party tomorrow. He's a very nice, gentlemanly sort of guy - pretty new to relationships, wants to take things slow, etc. I'm not a very subtle person as it is, and I've never seriously drank before.
1. Should I just... act like I usually do? Should I be changing my behavior? He is extremely aware I am into him and I want to spend time together but I'm also concerned I'll make myself look foolish or embarrass him. At what point does it become weird?
2. Any advice for not getting completely fucked up? I've had a Mike's Hard before and that's about it. Ideally, I'd like to not get sloshed; if I can avoid a hangover, even better.
>>34700065
Yeah, I'm bi and pretty butch myself. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't. As long as he's kind and can actually put an outfit together, he can do whatever the hell he wants.
>>34713236
Yes. I feel like they're handsome and strong and masculine - shocker. Much better if it's attached to someone I care about. I'll agree with what the other anon said and say it's nice to have visual proof that someone's into you (or at least enjoying the moment).
Cum's probably fine. I like it more in theory than I think I would in practice, but I have a really strong aversion to bad tastes, so I'm biased.
I'll have to get back to you on that last one.
>>34732564
Seconding Warhammer. In my limited experience, it's a pretty friendly community (at least in-person) and you'll probably meet some nice folks.
I got a stupid idiot crush on my stupid idiot friend after he kept talking about the guard, so it's worked at least once.

do not pretend to be a drinker. instead, make it clear you usually don't and be naive/cute about it.
if you drink, do not mix - the hangover is terrible, especially since you're unused to it.

enjoy & good luck.

>>34732536
To be fair, me discussing it in a relevant context is not the same as me making it my entire personality. Just because it's all YOU see doesn't mean it's actually how I am in my day to day life. Nice try for the attempt, though. But you can't pretend to be rational or call people out for comments you don't like while trying to create jabs as well. You get to be above it, or with it, but you can only pick one, and pretending to do both is.... yeah. just like you won't take me seriously at yikes, that's where I stopped taking you seriously as well. Other than that, we're good, and I hope you have the day that works for you.

>>34731372
Cause I love cats and they say Meow

>>34732256
I'd recommend joining some college clubs or events, from there you can make friends. Start meeting with them outside of event times and something could blossom

>>34732830
I'd suggest acting as you normally would and try to mostly avoid getting drunk if you can. Getting drunk when you've got shit on your mind is a bad idea, in my experience it makes you more likely to drink more and to say stupid shit when you're drunk. Avoid hard liquor, maybe have one or two hard ciders/seltzers or beers. You can try getting drunk for the first time another day when there are no stakes and you can do it without worry. Otherwise, have fun at the party and good luck with your date

>>34731024
Clinical narcissism

>>34732570
>it's expensive from what I've heard
It's not a cheap hobby, at least at first. You're probably looking in the neighborhood of $500 to get 2K points of FEC on the table. The good news is you don't have to, and should not, buy it all at once. I would recommend buying a "spearhead" box, in the case of the FEC try and find the less recent spearhead box (the one with the "Abhorrant Arch-Regent") because it's all newer/better models, but no biggie if you can't find that specific one. This'll let you get your feet wet, and play spearhead, a streamlined version of the game where you play against other preconstructed spearheads, and is great for learning the rules and figuring out if it's something you wanna go all in on. From there just buy kits over time and start putting actual armies together until you can start playing 2K point games. If games feel a little wonky or unbalanced until then, don't fret, the game is balanced around 2K points and doesn't scale down particularly well. The important thing is to learn, have fun, and make friends.
>i'd imagine it draws a similar crowd
DnD is kind of a mixed bag; lots of normies/Critical Role-secondaries, hard to get games together. As I've gotten older I've skewed more towards wargaming because it's easier to socialize and to get a game together in the first place. Also, if you ever make your way to an event (always a great time, few sweaties, mostly just a bunch of dudes who wanna get in five games over a weekend) you'll be the belle of the ball.

>>34732585
Anytime. FEC have some of the best lore in fiction, and Ushoran is one of the most beautiful models they've ever made.

>>34732830
Drink exactly as much as you care to, and don't feel pressured to drink at all. One or two girl drinks is fine, don't feel obligated to "keep up."
>after he kept talking about the guard
Based. In a setting full of nightmares from beyond hell, the guard are a force of normal men and women holding the line, ready to die standing.

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I think gV7m5x9Y & WBqUVPxW should be executed by firing squad for being self-absorbed bores with zero self-awareness who've shat up the thread with paragraphs and paragraphs of self-pitying, vacuous drivel. Give this post a (you) if you agree!

>>34733282
No worries. Our perspectives and priorities aren't in perfect alignment, and that's fine. You seem preoccupied with helping people in the worst possible situations, and that's a good thing. Seriously. I'm more of a big picture kind of person, my brain is just wired that way, so it's not like I don't care about people on the margins, it's just that my attention naturally directs itself towards what is most relevant to the most people. My point/belief isn't that women's issues don't matter or that crack whores sucking dick on the street should be grateful for the opportunity. My point is you can't expect men to be invested in a system that takes from them to the point of normalizing their exploitation, while giving nothing back to them in return. As bad as women may have it, they're still the protected sex, they're still the go-to recipients when wealth is redistributed, and they're still the first to be courted by political and economic agendas. On a micro and macro level, in the context of interpersonal relationships *and* the context of the welfare state, the expectation imposed upon the common man is to be content being invisible until such time as he is called upon to pay for another man's kids. Turns out that is a shit deal, which is why so many of us are refusing to accept it.

It's not on men to fix this. It can't be on men to fix this. You've been given everything you asked for; you didn't have to fight for it, you just asked, and it was given. What have you done with this power? Where has it gotten us? Where has it gotten you? Women need to sleep in the bed they've shit in for awhile, and when you're ready to come to the table, we can talk. This is the way it has to be, because there's only two alternatives; the first is a total social collapse, and the second looks a lot like Handmaid's Tale, and nobody wants that.

I wish things were better, for everyone. I truly do. I just don't believe "question less, give more" is getting us anywhere.

>>34733999
I wish you would shut the fuck up

>Joins a discussion thread
>mad when they find discussions

>>34734544
God forbid someone post anything other than vague, generalized insults thinly vieled as questions that have already been answered countless times, or the usual coombrained bullshit.

For men or women

Do you like lego?
Do you wanna build lego with me?

Does money matter to women when you're in your 20s?

>>34735008
What do u wanna build

>>34735032
I got the razor crest UCS set

>>34735060
Umm umm that is cool, can we build the flower bouquet together too??

>>34735763
Yeah! I also got the T-rex skeleton set but I already built it :)

>>34725343
>Historically women have been disadvantaged
>all the bs the follows
i would recommend trying taking a look at history and society from something other then barely rebranded marxism.

it will do you some good.

To women:
Why is it so weird that I want to watch you perform your mundane, day to day tasks over cam while not saying a single word to each other? It's easier to get nudes than it is to watch someone clean their kitchen. I don't get it.

>>34737351
Not a woman, but I like this as well. Watching women get ready is fascinating to me. I discovered this because my eye was drawn to women I was dating at the time getting ready after taking a shower. I think I like the idea that it comes off as a ritual they perform and they come out if it transformed.

>>34733999
See, that's why I don't take you seriously, for the second paragraph messages.
I must be older than you because I came from a time where women DID fight for it, and had to, because before 2010, especially before early 2000's, there were a lot of issues women had. Did you know marital rape only became fully illegal in the 90's, and depending on the state? Unless someone was born after 2000's, the second half doesn't apply to that particular female. You take for granted the shit women went through before it was already the norm, which, again, only became that in the early 2000's at the earliest (and if you're not from america, there were tons of countries where it still continued). I also don't know if you know but American women, especially the priviledged ones, are still a minority in the world. I am grateful I have more rights than what was normal when I was a child or before I was born. Just because a movement was co opted in shitty ways by the people who were given said rights doesn't mean they weren't an important step in the right direction, just it can't be the only steps. Also, that component is ignoring the benefits of the movement to focus on the negatives which was from retards who co opted the movement. That'd like me using shitty men to justify why men's problems shouldn't be taken seriously. Stupid logic.
Other than that, I agree general context is shit and men suffer just as much as anyone else. I also pointed out that there are plenty of places, in america and out, where women aren't protected, but do go on about how all women get that benefit, eh? Anyways, I'm out of this convo, as we can both agree there's no discussion to be had here. I can't respect men with such short perspectives who claim they care about the big picture. It's just bullshit. I also am truly jealous you think my perspective is... not seeing the bigger picture, rather than seeing maybe you live in a good enough position to be perceiving these things that way.

>>34737351
I'm thinking about letting somebody watch me clean my kitchen and it's just weirding me out... sorry..

>>34688807
This is a question for zoomer women:

Would you date a man in his early 30s that's able to communicate, is /fit/, and looks to be in his mid 20s at the oldest? Millennial women seem so bitter and I just want a girl I can be affectionate with and dote on.

>>34741625
Only if you're down to get pegged, zoomers be wild

This might sound retarded, but is it possible for a vagina to be so tight that it hurts men?

>>34742070
Maybe if there’s an issue like vaginismus + it’s very dry?

>>34688807
why do men get complacent and stop putting in effort .
> I had been on 6 - 10 dates with a guy who had hard pursued me after we met last year.
> Was doing romantic stuff, flowers movies, dates , romantic Christmas cards with long sentimental message
> I'm like a 6.4/10 , but like Allison Reynolds breakfast club 'type' (relevant).
> He says I'm 10/10 exactly his type
> I thought he was cute too
> I don't go on many dates, I was in a long term relationship that had broken off a year + ago
> little lonely
> found it nice, it's normal, he's a normie
> sleep with him. (don't slut shame , pls. I dont do this often)
> suddenly, stops cleaning his apartment, stops going out for dinner with me, stops going out to movies, stops making plans to do anything other than 'come over', turns down every one of my suggestions
> was invited to a birthday party he was also going to . While there , he looks a girl up and down and they make lascivious eye contact . they're basically eye fucking right next to me
> I'm not mad, we're not bf/gf, and I know he's pretty drunk, but I'm uncomfortable
> idk if he knows her , she's blonde , straight hair, sticklike stacy , looks the opposite from me .
> I found it rude, but don't really care about it. ask about it gently
> i know we're not in a relationship but he's very possessive over me when we go out , so I don't think it's unreasonable to bring up.
> lies to my face and pretends he doesn't remember
> hes acting very weird. I tell him I know he's lying . he makes a joke about them fucking in the bathroom. I'm like '??'
> He kind of flip flops between sarcastically admitting he remembers and then gaslights and pretends he doesn't
> it's extremely off-putting and I don't really want to see him again.

Why do men do this ? if you have something easy and good , why mess it up for no reason. not asking for much.

>>34742167
When a man feels sexually attractive he really stops caring about the feelings of women who liked him before he hit his stride. Basically most men will sleep around given the chance as that is kind of a common male fantasy/goal. It sucks that you caught feelings for him but unless you really start looking for men who really believe in monogamy expect for a guy to cheat especially the more successful he is.

>>34742167
>why do men get complacent and stop putting in effort .
Translation:
>why do men expect me to put in an equal amount of effort?

Yet another foid who can't even grasp in theory the notion that they should contribute anything to a relationship

>>34742167

Problem with this story for me is a couple of things. One, why the fuck are both of yall 6-10 dates in and not setting a boundary of whether or not you're dating seriously. Both of you are fucking retards for this. Two, nobodys going to slut shame you for sleeping with a guy, holy fuck grow up. Three, all of this is told from your side of the argument and doesnt detail any level of involvement you did. What did you do in the year to advance yourself, did you take initiative, etc. You claim he had something easy yet have no idea if he's into monogamy or not

Tl;dr, answer the fucking questions reading isnt hard. Stop being an unreliable narrator

>>34739599
>Did you know marital rape only became fully illegal in the 90's, and depending on the state?
a complete perversion of the law. you shouldn't be punished for using something that belongs to you.

>>34739599
>that's why I don't take you seriously
You don't take me seriously because seriously considering the validity in what I have to say would require a willingness to question the preconceptions which conveniently place you in the moral high ground in every scenario.
>I came from a time where women DID fight for it
No, you didn't. You petitioned, you protested, you lobbied. Semantics aside, you made requests of those who had more power than you, and they granted those requests. At the end of the day, *everything* women have men gave freely. Of course, they could just as easily take some or all of it away.
>I also pointed out that there are plenty of places, in america
By all means, name some.
>and out
I'm not a globalist, so to that I say "not my circus, not my monkeys." Not out of callousness, or indifference, but out of a healthy appreciation for what I have control over, and what I don't. It makes some (and I suspect this includes you) feel better to "raise awareness" and support the current thing, but I find it all to be so pointless and masturbatory. To each, their own.
>retards who co opted the movement
They've become the face of it. Also, at this point, what legitimate purpose does it serve? What rights do I have that you don't?
>Stupid logic
It may be, but plenty of your contemporaries have successfully leveraged it to stifle that conversation, even if you don't.
>Anyways, I'm out of this convo
Dropping a bunch of bullshit, then taking your ball and going home? Nobody saw that coming.
>no discussion to be had here
Only because a discussion is an exchange of ideas and perspectives, and besides clearly not caring about any perspective that doesn't align with your own, you've denied my lived experience every time you've posted.

Best of luck, I appreciate your pledging to no longer shit up the thread.

>>34735008
I used to be way more into lego as a kid, but I still pick up the occasional set; I actually have the Dark Falcon and the X-Men '97 Blackbird on my pile of shame at the moment.

>>34735030
Money always matters to women; money = status, experiences, opportunities. That said, if you're fit and/or blessed with good genetics, you can get away with not making six figures until you're 30.

>>34742167
>why do men get complacent and stop putting in effort
Because you showed him that he doesn't have to give you a commitment for you to be sexually intimate with him. You wanna be casual, and not put a label on things, this is what happens. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
>i know we're not in a relationship but he's very possessive over me when we go out
The good news is he's probably emotionally invested in you, so you can probably pivot this into "the talk" and establish a relationship, which I recommend you do; if you're going to act like a jealous girlfriend, then you should probably be his girlfriend.
>if you have something easy and good
You know what else he has? Options, as evidenced by the girl at the party.
>not asking for much
There's a lesson here, and that lesson is, ask for much.

What do guys actually think when they see a girl who’s just average in terms of weight or looks? (Think middle of the range BMI and skinnyfat, not deformed but not beautiful face)

>>34737351
As far as your comparison goes: nudes are entirely within one's control. You can pick the exact lighting, pose, & background you want to look as good as possible. If I'm fucking around in the kitchen, I'm worried about being judged from a bunch of different angles.
Also, I like to talk to myself. I'd be quieter than usual if I wasn't saying anything.
>>34741625
Yeah, sounds pretty nice to me. I'm at the older end of zoomers, though, so younger women might have more reservations.
>>34733429
Thank you! Took your advice, had one shot (was supposed to be green apple, not certain I agree) and a great time. Appreciate it, anon!
>>34733921
Thank you too, anon! I would have probably had more but everything was scary straight alcohol. I think I need my booze to taste like juice.
They're my favorite! I was a little hesitant getting into 40k because I kind of assumed it was all space marines, but learning about the regular degular ass humans made me kind of fall in love with it.
He said he was excited to 2v2 with his guard & my sisters, so I'm really excited! One of our friends is a Salamanders guy, and his wife's starting to get into it too - I believe she's going to be running World Eaters. Very fun all around. :)

>>34743001
nothing.
just as you have things you find very attractive, or unattractive, so does everyone else.
if you're a flat 5/10, it will be up to the observer to find something that interests him.
just be yourself, someone will love you for it.

I have a question for all female anons that frequent nsfw threads

what is a good opening for you? whenever i add a girl she becomes cold and start giving 1 word replies at the first message after i do my opening, so i'm guessing my opening freaks them out or something and decide to put 0 effort in talking afterwards, i'm not saying all the girls are like that so i'm blaming myself for this, that's why i want to ask if you annonettes could give me examples of good openings

>>34743001
Depends on her features / traits because I might find them more attractive than the next guy or vice versa. Generally though, there's nothing wrong with being average in weight, I think as long as you aren't obese or close to it then it's fine. I think muscular, fit, skinny, average, thicc women can all be attractive just depends on her face. As far as an average face goes, it's fine.

>>34743709
Hard to answer because I don't post so I'm usually doing the adding. But I get a lot of guys who are the same way so I feel you anon.

Think it depends on your style. I'm def chatty so someone whos happy to talk a bit before/during/after things get horny work for me. But that doesn't help with new adds who won't reply.

I guess respond to people whose vibe works for you, try to relate to what they're asking for or say they like, and hope. Good luck anon!

>>34741625
Right guy, right situation? Absolutely.

>>34743709
Don't add girls

>>34743004
>If I'm fucking around in the kitchen, I'm worried about being judged from a bunch of different angles
Does it help if I promise not to judge? I really wouldn't
>Also, I like to talk to myself. I'd be quieter than usual if I wasn't saying anything
Nah that's cool I mean pretend I'm not there. I'm a fly on the wall

>>34743001
You're describing someone unremarkable, so I probably wouldn't think much of anything going by looks alone.

>>34743004
You're welcome.
>I think I need my booze to taste like juice
Nothing wrong with a vodka orange juice.
>They're my favorite
I don't always run 100 Cadians, but when I do, they die standing.
>I kind of assumed it was all space marines
You can be forgiven that assumption, given they're in every starter box, and close to half of the armies are some flavor of astartes.
>my sisters
For your first army you chose one of the most notoriously difficult from a painting and hobby standpoint? Respect.
>World Eaters
AKA "fuck it, we ball: the faction." What is it with women and jumping into the hobby with the absolute hardest to paint armies? A solid half of the women I've met who play 40K play either SoB, GSC, or some flavor of Chaos. The rest play Tyranids. It's like half of ya'll want some masochism with your painting, and the rest just thinks bugs are cute, lol.

>>34744067
That's more in comparison to nudes than a fear of judgement on its own. For someone who is a stranger to me, it would feel weirdly intimate - after I got cleaned up, I'd be happy to have a friend over, but I think it's just an awkward feeling otherwise. If it doesn't need to be a one-on-one thing, I think there are lots of slow life/GRWM channels on YouTube?
>>34744078
I feel like such a cliche for picking the sisters, but I LOVE nuns and batshit women. The Triumph of Saint Katherine model was actually what got me like "oh, I need to get into this shit IMMEDIATELY". I have a bit of a background in visual arts and some experience painting minis for D&D, so I'm hoping I won't totally fuck my girls up.
Also, the bugs ARE cute. I love those little freaks.

This is gonna be a question mostly for femanons but it's open to men as well as suppose

Why the FUCK are some of yall so against verifying who you are. Like ya okay if the dipshit asking you is asking you to do shit youre not comfortable with fine whatever, but sone of yall act like your life will end if a dude wants to know hes actually talking to a woman. you know how many larping faggots and just faggots in general are on this site

>>34744975
I'd be worried they'd use my face pic for AI revenge porn desu

>>34744873
>I think there are lots of slow life/GRWM channels on YouTube?
It lacks the intimacy I'm looking for. When it's one on one it scratches the voyeuristic urge very well. I do watch GRWM type content but it's not the same. There was a girl a while back who would let me watch her while she was dressing or sleeping and it was so good. It's not even purely sexual there's an almost ASMR like quality to it. When it's broadcast to the whole world it loses it's appeal.
inb4 get a gf, I don't want one. I don't have the emotional ability for it and it would be a shitshow. I'll keep hoping some woman wants to be watched but I guess no one wants to do that outside of a relationship

>>34744992

Good point, its usually why I dont ask for face verification

>>34744873
>I feel like such a cliche
I play guard and dwarfs, I'm in no position to judge.
>but I LOVE nuns and batshit women
"Local woman literally too faithful to die" is a pretty cool concept.
>The Triumph of Saint Katherine model was actually what got me
To be fair, it's an absolutely beautiful model/diorama/centerpiece thing. It's AoS, not 40K, but have you seen Ushoran, Mortarch of Delusion? When they revealed that thing is the closest I've ever came to literally throwing money at my screen.
>I'm hoping I won't totally fuck my girls up
My advice is just take your time. Most people are pretty forgiving if you need to play with grey tide while you're getting your army painted, especially when you've chosen to play a "my basic troops have more detail than the leaders of most armies" option. These are expensive models, and the hardest part of getting into the hobby is actually getting an army assembled and painted, might as well do it right.
>Also, the bugs ARE cute
I'm gonna start 'nids as soon as I'm mentally prepared to take on painting 100 gaunts. Why 100 gaunts? Because, if you haven't put triple digit models on the table, are you even really playing a horde army? I know I don't have to play them that way, but I want to play them that way. I want a Norn Emissary making angry bug noises on the central objective while gaunts pour in from all sides. I hummed "Klendathu Drop" while typing this.

>>34744975
I'm just ugly, personally. If I don't have my tits half out, I am very often read as a teenage boy rather than a grown woman, and under no circumstances will I ever take a picture with both my face and naked body in it.
Also the AI thing, yeah.
>>34744995
That totally tracks. I get a similar urge sometimes - there are days where I want to listen to my friends without necessarily engaging in the conversation, like a podcast or something, but it feels weird to ask for that explicitly.
I wish I had more advice for you, anon. I think it's just a level of intimacy that lots of people aren't comfortable with, even if it's entirely mundane. Wishing you the best of luck.
>>34745031
>Ushoran, Mortarch of Delusion
Oh WOW. The... veins? Tendons? In his hands are GORGEOUS.
And thank you :) I want to work on my fine motor control and this feels like a good way to do both that and have fun. I'm trying not to get TOO ambitious to start out but I've started getting painting videos on my feed so I may just be fucked. At least being overzealous is in-character?
>Klendathu Drop
Based beyond belief. Godspeed chief, you're gonna knock 'em dead.

>>34745294
>I'm just ugly, personally. If I don't have my tits half out, I am very often read as a teenage boy rather than a grown woman, and under no circumstances will I ever take a picture with both my face and naked body in it.
>Also the AI thing, yeah.

1, doubt it, every woman says this and is at least passing. Two, I get im just one guy on a massive message board but verifying to me doesnt mean "heres my full body nude teehee" like are men really this fucking retarded they cant think of ways for women to verify themselves unless they do it nude/with a face

what the fuck

>>34745365

also to add I literally do not give a fuck if you're unattractive to me or not i want to know ur a woman and not a larping fucking faggot

>>34744975
i dont mind verifying when it's a guy that i'm having a genuine convo with, play games with etc
but if it's some dude that messaged me for a total of 5 minutes and starts asking for selfies, i'm not going to do that cuz i can kinda guess your intention

>>34745380

fair point, whats the timeframe for you then? mine is usually at least a week but ive heard thats too fast.

>>34745383
theres no timeframe it's just kinda based off of the vibe or context of the chat. for me ive never posted in the nsfw threads (usually the sfw gaming, music share, things like that) so it's kind of a red flag if a guy is asking for selfies and verification if i posted looking for a valorant duo like what does it matter if im really a girl or not if the context of you adding me is to play a few val games??

>>34745396

context in your situation is definitely different, most of the threads I post in are NSFW based or have that aspect to them. if i was posting more in vibes based threads like u do or just asking for a val duo i wouldnt give a fuck

>>34745404
i guess if you contact someone from nsfw thread its fair to ask for a selfie but just from my perspective id be scared bc i dont know the guy and dont know whether hes gonna dox me or something like that. ive talked to several guys who ask for a regular selfie and then they get extremely creepy saying stuff about me being asian, asking if im into white guys, what school i go to etc. so at the end of the day i dont know what theyre gonna do with what i assumed is just a normal selfie...

>>34745427

cool so this boils back around to a bunch of dumb fucking retarded faggots ruining it and making it harder for everyone else

awesome man

>>34745433

lol which is why ive learned to stop posting my contact and just contact ppl myself who seem sane and cool/normal. i think thats the case with a lot of girls

>>34745445

ah well its over anyway what can u do bros.
life would be so much easier if people weren't losing their fucking minds constantly and just be respectful to people idk. mind posting age? just want context, cool if u don't want too. I'm 33m

>>34745454
if you want to drop your disc i can tell you some of my rants abt certain ppl ive encountered here lol if you promise to be a normal chill person

>>34745466

Should be Vaqxine, bloody gir profile picture

>>34745294
>Oh WOW
Yeah, he's also the poster boy for a faction with absolute peak lore; the tl:dr of the Flesh-Eater Courts is that they're strigoi vampires with a shared delusion that happens to be contagious, that makes them, and the people they infect perceive themselves to be noble lords and ladies, and their loyal knights, courtiers, and serfs... when in actuality they're degenerate cannibals. I feel like I just redpilled you on AoS having the best models GW has ever produced. If you appreciate GYATT-blessed muscular dommy mommies that ride into battle on kaiju-sized kabutomushi, definitely check out Alarielle the Everqueen.
>I'm trying not to get TOO ambitious to start out
Woman, you chose the faction that literally has a tank with a pipe organ that doubles as a mortar. You're in for a penny, in for a pound. Like I said, just take your time, watch a lot of tutorials, and think of it as an opportunity to learn a lot.
>Based beyond belief
That's kind of you to say, the guard brain rot is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ZbXK1xY_4

How come no women actually peg

>>34746867
U seem very fixated on this topic anon.. I pegged my ex and i would peg again

>>34747169
Cause I've yet to get any suggestions that are anything other than "I found one who does" like okay congrats it's a unicorn then

>>34746867
I think a better question to ask is "should I want to be pegged?" Just because something has been normalized doesn't mean it's healthy. A good rule of thumb is if you got the idea from porn, it's a bad idea.

>>34747215
What suggestion are you looking for, anon? If you really want to be pegged, the solution is find a girl who is into pegging, or at least open to the idea.

>>34748936
>doesn’t mean it’s healthy
What’s “unhealthy” about pegging??
>If you really want to be pegged, the solution is find a girl who is into pegging
That’s what he’s TRYING to figure out!

>>34749003
Why don’t you just try FetLife?

MEN

If u saw a girl on a dating app who just wanted to cuddle would you be down? Would u think it’s odd?

>>34749342
If you make it clear you are looking for a platonic cuddle-buddy, I wouldn't think it's odd.
But people go to dating apps for different reasons - just sex, short-term dating, long-term dating. Cuddling is a rare reason, so you might have to be prepared that others will misaligned goals, hoping for more intimacy one way or another.

>>34749342

Human touch is one of the most important things people need and I love to cuddle so not weird and id be down

>>34749318
NTA you meant to reply to, but I doubt the options are plentiful on there. Idk though.
>>34749417
>might have to be prepared that others […] hoping for more intimacy
Yeah ik :/ hypothetically I would make it crystal clear, but I am too scared to use dating apps anyway.
>>34749598
You get it… I don’t want to have casual sex (nothing against it) but I want to snuggle up with someone.

>>34749342
The cuddling itself wouldn't be odd, but seeing it on a dating app might be a bit weird? Maybe on a different sort of platform it could be normal, as long as you give a lot of detail/information. I would like to cuddle as well, but after I somewhat got to know the person.

>>34747169
sounds like a threat

Question for the ladies, would you date/be interested in a guy who wants to clean/take care of the home, give you lots of attention, never yells at you, never hits you, never gives another woman any attention, wakes up early to make you breakfast, packs you lunch for work, prepares dinner for you before you get home from work, never initiates sex himself but will do it anytime you ask for it, but you're the sole breadwinner and he is about average looking?

Women that are rail thin with no tits no ass no body fat...

Can they get tits if they eventually put on weight or are they doomed to be flat as a board

>>34688807
Women: You're on a promising date with someone you're interested in. You invite him back to your place. As things progress, you remove his pants, and discover he's wearing women's panties underneath. How do you react in the moment? What do you say or do next? Do you continue as if nothing happened, discuss it, laugh at him, kick him out? Additionally, what do you do afterward? Do you call a friend and laugh about it?

>>34751336
when i met my ex she had A cups (personally i find it hot). in the ~10 years since we broke up she's gotten bigger and has C cups. today she is not what most people would consider to be a fat girl, but she is definitely fat compared to before. would still bang but be slightly disappointed at her exaggerated curves/10

>>34749620
>You get it… I don’t want to have casual sex (nothing against it) but I want to snuggle up with someone.

Where are all of these women around me that want to only cuddle and why arent they on the apps near me, like what the fuck is this cruel ass world man

>>34743001
If it's just out and about like I see someone in a shop or on the bus, I probably won't register her much. I think I tend to take a look at everyone when I'm in public but if it's someone who I clock as average to me personally I don't really stop to think anything in particular. I just return to whatever else I was doing. If it's someone I'm actually interacting with regularly then that's a totally different thing, someone with average looks but attractive personality could draw me in more than someone who might be better looking but less attractive personality

>>34749003
>What's "unhealthy" about pegging??
It's degenerate behavior, invariably traced back to trauma and/or a porn addiction. It's kind of like being into cuckoldry, or CNC, in that it's not something someone in good mental health would be interested in. That said, I realize the concept of "just because I want something doesn't mean I should want it" is a bridge too far for most, especially here, which is why I tried to give a constructive answer, and help anon towards his goal, however much I may disagree with it.
>That's what he's TRYING to figure out!
I don't think he's going to find the woman for the job here. Unfortunately I don't know that there's any advice more helpful than "date around, test the waters, cross your fingers." In most cases I'd say most women are pretty open minded if they're into a guy, and he maintains a masculine frame. The problem is, being pegged inherently means compromising said masculine frame.

>>34749342
Not odd, but also not for me, and not really what I use dating apps for.

>>34752867
>I don't think he's going to find the woman for the job here.
I wasn't trying to find a woman to peg me here lel
Get better reading comprehension

I'm sure its asked all the time, but literally what can I do to make my app profile better?
I have a bunch of pictures of me doing various things in different scenarios. (e.g. not just bathroom pics)
I have thoughtful bios and answered to prompts that have easy leads to more questions and interests while explaining my personality.

But like I don't even get bots or scammers liking me, I have a literal 0 likes on bumble, hinge, and cmb

>>34753540
All the apps make money from your boosting your odds

You're always suppressed to limit matches to force you to despair enough to pay

Go and meet someone at like rock climbing or another semi social activity

>>34753540
i think it'd be hard to give an critique without seeing your actual profile cuz there could be lots of factors or icks
if you want an honest opinion from a girl you can post your disc and ill add you!

>>34753706
Goldfender

>>34753664
I do both, I just figure I don't want to limit my chances because there's like 1 place in my city to do my main hobby, and I don't want to potentially ruin my rep there by hitting on girls.

There's a few other places though, and I sometimes go bouldering, but that's all solo. My main spot to meet people has been ruined by a few different factors though.

>>34753706
I don't want to associate my face with /soc/ if you don't mind.
But generally speaking, I have pics of me and my dog, me at an art booth I did awhile back. Some just general pics of me at my birthday dinners and such, the one time i went to car racing class, and just like my dogs.
The prompts are just like how I'm learning an instrument this year, leaving things open for specifics. times i did stuff, and like just a bit about myself.
I could see it being a bit generic or boring, but I feel like I should at least get a few scam likes at this point.

Since apps are terrible and women don't seem to like to be approached in most situations, I've decided the best way to find a 275lb girl pervert that wants to get her pussy fingered while we watch Non Non Biyori Repeat and play BattleTanx for the N64 is to put up flyers at my local library, featuring dick pics and my collection of video games (which includes the original version of Marvel vs Capcom 3 for the Xbox 360)

Women, any suggestion for what else I should add, or what combination of colors and fonts would make your pussies drenched enough to tear off one of the paper strips that has my AOL Instant Messenger name