>Woofs
>Beat OKC
>Lost to bears
>Profit??

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>>153252151
The NBA has lost all of its soul and I it’s time to have that conversation. Nobody in the league cares about basketball, non of the analyst’s do, fans only watch highlights and playoff games

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>early 2019 mock draft
>Garland isnt even anywhere to be seen

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>>153252175
>dombouya
what went wrong

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>>153252151
Meal. I’m hungry.

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Draymond Green is a FAGGOT

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what the fuck

>>153252201
How many times a day do you pee. Do you pee at night

>>153252174
Most of the NBA are second generation college or pro hoopers and have been playing since they could walk. Basketball at this point is just a job to them.

I think petefag and malnutritionjew is the same anon

I like when Whites dunk on darkies and I like when darkies dunk on light skinned negros

>>153252253
And aforementioned poster(s) are even lower quality than inceltic and weapcel(who are also the same poster)

Low quality posters like this make me unironically miss low quality posters like nobitches or “;)” lakerfag

remember when some retards thought valancuinas would be such an insane impact addition that people were rejoicing when jokic convinced him to play another season?

>>153252281
bawbs shouldn't have a valid basketball opinion.

Your team needs a backup PG and Silver pulls a gun to your head and makes you pick between Ben "SimmoTheSavage" Simmons or Chris "former NBA Finals addict" Paul, who you get?

>>153252290
chris paul, at least he has heart

>>153252285
BAWBs....

>>153252292
hes still technically with the clippers. you'd have to trade for him kek.

I went and found an imagine of a bbc to post “meal” to make fun of meal anon, but the picture had already been banned. I wonder who already posted it…….

>>153252281
I never got why. For matchups like OKC, Jokic is still gonna be playing 40+ minutes a night anyways.

>>153252290
>>153252290
chris paul. hes got the addiction

>>153252298
i wonder why CP has been silent of being sent to the cuckcave, kinda sad if he just gave up and is just waiting for his retirement.

>>153252306
You can pay me a couple million to sit at home and play video games. I won’t say a fucking word either

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If Pelinka is not going to make any move, why even bother competing for the playoffs? The Lakers have their own first round pick this year. Just tank.

>>153252306
hes probably fine with being paid millions to do nothing in LA.

brook lopez with the iso lmao

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The media hype does NOT match the player (Anthony Edwards)

this yall hottest team in the west?

>>153252341
no harden and zubitch is still playing since theyre desperately trying to show him off before the deadline

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>>153252290
How’s that even a question

it's time for nbe to split rebounds. contested and uncontested rebounds.

It's really incredible to me how bad zubac is and how he's been able to stay on this team for so long

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Don't shoot the messenger. Lol.

>>153252467
hang yourself

>>153252467
Why would the Nuggets trade the GOAT for 31 year old run-and-dunk man?

>>153252480
the goat wouldnt let his team get btfo at home by a random role player on the team that knocked them out the 'offs

>>153252487
Even the GOAT has off games.

[Mannix] Sources: Clippers, Cavs, have had advanced discussions on a James Harden-Darius Garland swap.

>>153252532
Do it for the lulz

>>153252532
>lose lose trade
lets get it

Do you guys think this upcoming draft class will be better than this years? Flagg, Kon, Edgecombe, Harper, Queen have all shown all star potential, Flagg superstar potential, Kon and Edgecombe 2nd and 3rd, but no one else form the draft seems that noteworthy .

Meanwhile Boozer looks inane, Peterson looks crazy, etc

HARDEN GONE

>>153252532
Cavs are finally tired of coming up short in the playoffs so they are trading for James Harden.

>>153252577
It looks similarly top heavy but no one as good as Flagg.

Is Harden retarded? The clippers have been on an insane win streak. Why would he want the team to facilitate a trade?

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Who wins the Hardenbowl?

>>153252471
SHAMS MAD

>>153252598
clippers are not winning shit in the west. they are behind the fucking trailblazers

>>153252602
>harden leaving his bag era and entering his ring chase era
based

>>153252602
This is the most random thing ive ever seen. Theyre literally the most winning team in the nba since they started winning. They need to ship Zubac not Harden what the fuck are they doing

>>153252598
>memory only goes back 2 weeks
poor anon

>>153252602
This helps neither team. Garland is riding off hype from years ago and is at best a low level all star. Cavs aren’t a harden away from competing, it’s pointless, unless this move is just to save money.

>>153252598
bro they just got smacked by the nugs and are getting booty blasted by the sixers. They won games off a weak schedule and have no shot at contending

>>153252594
>Cavs are finally tired of coming up short in the playoffs
So their solution is to trade for the most notorious playoff choker?

James harden should unironically get you more than just Darius garland

>>153252602
If the Clippers are blowing it up, can DJJ go to the Lakers?

>>153252602
Sorry Shams, Mannix >>153252532 snatched your chain for this one

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>>153252624

nnaje, strawther, and pickett for Collins and CP3

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>Mitchell and harden backcourt
Incomprehensible level of playoff fraudulence

>>153252629
Shams has lost a step. Woj retiring has made him soft.

>>153252602
Rockets salivating

I don't rate Garland but Haren is ancient. I only see this as blowing the team up by trading for Harden's expiring contract to shed salary for next season.

>>153252641
Your forgot they’re in a fraud east. Th ey have to face
>celtics without Tatum
>Detroit LionsPistons
>76ers that have to rely on a healthy Embiid to make a run
>knicks (they’d be 2nd behind the Knicks)
>meh raptors
>meh Heat
>fraud magic

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cavs would be retarded to get harden. And they would be even dumber to eventually bring back lebron

Does every old star that wants an extension get traded? Seems like AD is up next after Harden

>Harden wanted an extension, Clippers didn’t want to pay him. This is pretty straightforward as far as NBA things go
So it's about the bag

Seems like more made up bullshit by the jeet

>>153252681
Always was. You think any player on that Clipper's team gives 2 shits about a golden ring?

>>153252577
We're already seeing players from this draft leading teams or being important contributors and a few of them are only 19. The next class seems really good but I feel like this one is generational

If the players were only allowed to sign 1 year contracts the league would be so much better as a whole

>>153252467
Nets would be instant championshop favorites.

>>153252681
I swear I don’t remember this being a thing before. Where a mid-late 30s declining all star wants a big extension and always finding a sucker. These contracts will always be bad 100 percent of the time. Even LeBrons is turning in to a bad contract. Did this always happen? I swear teams never used to do this

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>>153251725
I lied. I just had 20 McNuggets and a coke.

Would the warriors be better off if KD didn’t veto the trade last year?

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Why is he betraying Kawhi?

>>153252712
So many uncs have been able to cling on despite everything from stats to team results saying they aren't worth the max anymore. I think the league being so offense friendly just keeps the door open for these vets and allows for copium from GMs and owners that they still got it. In the past once you lost a step you were more fucked because there was no spacing and more defense allowed so player's FG% would start to plummet. Now if you have a step back gather step 3 point shot and some old man strength you can still get shots up.

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>Cavs trading for a playoff choker
>Clippers trading for an oft injured "star"
This trade makes no sense and perfect sense.

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Aight I lost respect for Zach with this one.

>>153252602
Time to learn chinese Buddy

VJ edgecombe...

>>153252746
within this picture, there are two fake demons

>>153252737
I mean I don’t disagree that a lot of these guys still have a place in the league. Harden is obviously still valuable, and probably will be for a few more years. But not on these contracts they give them. When you factor in they will get worse every year, and play less(on average) each year. Probably less minutes each year, etc etc. they need to be taking drastic pay cuts to account for that, or the contracts become very predictable dead weights keeping the team down. I just don’t understand what these teams are thinking.

>>153252746
>Clippers trading for an oft injured "star"
You're right but at the very least, Garland is only 26 years old. Even if he isn't going to win you a championship because he's clearly not a #1 or #2, at the very least 18PPG 7APG you can slot him in as the #3 a la Andrew Wiggins. Or worst case scenario, you use him as a trade piece for actual assets or draft capital. I know Minny is dick thirsty for Giannis but I was under the impression they desperately need a PG. Either way though this trade makes more sense for the Clippers. Meanwhile, Harden is a proven playoff choker. Trading a 26 yr old for a hobbled 36 yr old is kinda crazy to me. Cleveland would have to be huffing farts and really believe that this is their year.

>>153252712
>Where a mid-late 30s declining all star wants a big extension and always finding a sucker
The only guys i can think of are PG, butler and KD. But KD is still worth the money, PG is ironic bc the 76ers didn't want to pay harden but turned around and gave PG the max instead. The rest all resigned with their original team (bron, steph, kawhi, etc)

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The end of an era....
Hopefully he goes to the East and doesn't end up in some shithole like the Lakers

>>153252786
>Cleveland would have to be huffing farts and really believe that this is their year.
Which is why i believe the main goal is to get under the 2nd apron instead

>>153252771
This league is run by (((agents))). They are the ones who negotiate these contracts. If you don’t give these uncs the max bag they will blackball you as a gm and nobody will want to sign with your team

>>153252798
The latest contract killer for the Klutch Mafia. Who is Bron targeting now?

>>153252771
Clippers are just desperate to stay a playoff team with their new expensive arena and see the Unction as a safer bet than going full analytics and building a deeper younger team of underrated guys. It's like how Hollywood makes endless shitty remakes and sequels instead of trying to invest in anything new. IMO it's mostly backfired despite their recent run. They've had a crazy run just to still go sub .500.

>>153252737
>because there was no spacing and more defense allowed so player's FG% would start to plummet.
Percentages have never mattered though. Harden has always been a bonafide chucker. I think his absolute best percentage was probably when he was coming off the bench back in OKC. Since he left and went to Houston he's been a glorified chucker with shit percentages...it's just that people don't care when you're averaging damn near 40 PPG.
>>153252794
>PG is ironic bc the 76ers didn't want to pay harden but turned around and gave PG the max instead.
This was retarded as fuck by them but I think the genuine thinking was that PG still played top tier defense. Which while PG may not be All-Defense level defender anymore, he's still 100x better than Harden defensively. I think they were banking on his defensive upside being >>> than just Harden's offense. Plus worst case scenario they probably figure they could lean on McCain, Maxey, and Embiid for offense. Don't really blame them for not wanting to pay Harden though, just like I don't really blame Miami for not wanting to pay Butler either. And as you said KD is still elite and worth the money. I would say the same thing for LeBitch but defensively the nigga plays like a 50 year old LA Fitness...the 25PPG he's giving you means nothing compared to what he's giving up defensively.

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>lose pharmacy P for nothing
>about to trade harden for scraps
>kawhi and balmer about to get suspended

>>153252798
I 100% believe Klutch will fold as an agency within 5 years of Lebron's retirement.

>>153252532
Theres just no fucking way my Goat goes to the Clippers. I mean I never even considered this because If he plays with Kawhi he cant have his Hali 2025 playoffs moment, because no amount of personal success will be considered his own.

Its why I prefered the Kyrie Irving trade rumour with him.

lol harden wants out of the west

now you remember bradley beal

>larden is gone
so outside of getting the clippers their own stadium we can now for certain call the kawhi era clippers a failure right

>>153252817
>injured-prone star about to cash out on Ballmer
If you really like Garland, you would know this is the best move for his career.

>>153252759
I respect his honesty and openness.

>>153252812
Yeah, and PG was coming off an all star season, so that fooled the 76ers too. After he got the max, he went back to being a podcaster

>>153252829
kill yourself retard.

>>153252812
Harden has always been a chucker but in his prime the rules let him get 12 FTs a game hooking people so it made up for his meh FG%. I think this year he's somehow got with FTs up again so analytics still have him as an above average so the Clippers were right to pick him over George Paul but would have been more right if they got rid of both players.

>>153252815
I actually don’t think so. Those agents survive entirely off of reputation, whether they deserve it or not is irrelevant. And like it or not(I don’t) that douchebag now has a reputation for getting the bag. That won’t just disappear once lebum retires.

>>153252821
It was always a failure. What have they done besides beat up on my Mavs/Luka in the first round? I can't think of a single year where people genuinely thought the Clippers were a serious contender or something to be worried about because every single year Kawhi's health was the topic of discussion. Keep in mind he missed a full year and the last 2 years he didn't even play 40 games. I remember I said in here that there was no way in hell they'd resign or extend Kawhi or PG and while I was right about PG (I was shocked that Philly paid him) and I was wrong that they'd extend Kawhi. At this point I think the Clippers just want names, which is why they grabbed Harden. And even got Russ as well. If you're an unc, then you remember how fucking DOG SHIT the Clippers were pre-Lob City era. It was literally the place you go when you were completely washed as fuck and just wanted an easy check. I'm not even shit talking, they were literally the place you went when you wanted to retire. I think with Balmer there they REFUSE to go back to that level of mediocrity so they're willing to spend, do illegal under the table deals, and pay whoever whatever just so that they can keep their hat in the ring, even if it it means getting their asshole gaped in the first round or play-ins.

>>153252848
klutch has just as many instances of losing the bag and it's just they have a strangle hold on the media so those get buried, and without Lebron's influence as an active player their power will drop and it'll happen more and more. Klutch will survive for a time because NBA contracts are guaranteed so even if they get no one new they'll last as long as their current clients remain in the league. But that shit is a ticking time bomb of arrogance without substance and that shit doesn't last with this much money involved.

how do we know the clippers trade rumor is real and not just shams desperately trying to stir shit up because he knows his yawnpiss trade is going to fail again

>>153252868
It came from Harden's camp apparently

Shams ain't what he used to be. It's just he has less competition now so his fading athleticism isn't as noticeable. But he's gotten fat and lazy on his ESPN money. If another hungry lion comes on scene to replace the power vacuum left by Woj retiring, Shams is cooked.

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>>153252836
Yeah you're right, that's probably what did it. I knew he was cooked but I just didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to pay him, at least not the max.
>>153252844
Pic related are his FTAs. It's not like his free throw attempts are drastically fallen. I think there was one year where it was down to like 4.8 FTA but outside of that one year, he's always gotten around 6+ FTA, so I don't know what you mean by his foul baiting made up for his shit percentages. But as I said he's always been a chucker. He's hovered around 44% for most of his career with his career high being 49% his last year in OKC in 62 games played.

>>153252868
Because it's another guy who reported the news first

>>153252881
hardens a retard for leaving the rockets. him and westbrook were the best duo in the league. could have just ended up tanking for a few seasons, draft sengun instead of wasting all your time in bkn and philly doing nothing.

>>153252891
wow just looked up sengun and he was drafte in 21, retard just needed to tank for one year

>>153252881
Like I said he got his FTs up again. They aren't prime level but 8.5 is still up from the last few years and is probably a quiet reason behind the Clipper's recent success. Foul baiting absolutely makes up for shit FG% and it's why we have metrics like True Shooting %. The graph of his overall production is obviously going down and bound to fall off a cliff again and I wouldn't pay Haren a bag.

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he's still not gettin traded before the deadline btw

>>153252901
Onepiece will retire a Buck.

Bulce are clearly waiting for those expiring contracts they have to expire so they can sign some free agents. They aren't gunning for Jaundice. Get ready for some of the worst FA signings in the last decade this off season.

>has a career year for the Nets after his team gave up on him
MPJ is just 6'10 DLo.

I'm not mad at Cleveland pursuing Harden if they genuinely think this is their year. But giving up Garland for Harden is fucking retarded. You already have an issue of a small backcourt of guards that can't defend which won't win you shit (see: Dame/McCollum or Beal/Wall). You're trading a 26 yr old for a 36 year old, which is also retarded even if Harden is better offensively. Also, cashing all your chips in for one or two years and you don't win will be a fucking disaster.

Look at the Knicks. They soul their fucking soul to get KAT and Mikal there and completely mortgaged their future and are shaky as fuck this year and are already talking about moving on from Bridges who they raped their future for lol big market or not if they don't get a ring or at least a NBA Finals appearance in the next 2 years they are FUCKED.

Also keep in mind that the Cavs pretty much have fuck all draft capital already: 27 and 29 gone and 26 and 28 are swaps with the Spurs who will for sure be in the playoffs. Trading your good young assets for old ass niggas pushing 40 may not be the brightest idea. But you know these NBA GMs really think they're playing MyNBA in 2K.

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WestGOD births legends

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>>153252918
dumb as fuck

>>153252916
>so they can sign some free agents
Anfernee Simons (27)
Coby White (26)
Quentin Grimes (26)
Collin Sexton (27)
John Collins (28)
Rui Hachimura (28)
Kevin Huerter (28)
Mitchell Robinson (28)
Robert Williams (29)
Matisse Thybulle (29)
Kristaps Porzingis (30)
CJ McCollum (34)
Khris Middleton (34)
Tobias Harris (33)
Jordan Clarkson (34)
Russell Westbrook (37)
Lebron James (41)
Nigga these are the upcoming unrestricted free agents. Who the FUCK here would the Bulls be stupid enough to give a bag to, I'm being serious? The only person here even worth paying would be Lebron and that's ONLY because the profits he'd bring in merchandise/ticket sales wise. Everyone else on this list is either washed as fuck or don't move the needle in the slightest for Chicago.

>>153252936
>no trades
>no free agents
THE NBA IS FUCKING DEAD AS DIRT

>>153252930
westSENSEI sensed Avidjia ability to sniff out Gazan rat children and used it to hone his snack finding skills, which was secret training for the NBA. such a wise and honorable westSHIFU

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>Curcuck begins his career begging for a superstar to carry him to rings, Curcuck ends his career begging a superstar to carry him to rings
This manlet has zero shame

>>153252813
chris paul is kind of a bitch, but ty lue is far worse.

>>153252946
ring check

>>153252798
the fix is in. Say goodbye to your repeat chances OKC

>>153252936
It's the Bulce so just imagine who the modern Ben Gordon is and that's who the Bluce will give a 30 mil a year contract

>>153252944
seriously
at least when the heat were begging for dame they were giving up players that could actually play, cuckry fans want the bucks to give up giannis for the 36 year old corpse of butler and draymond
fucking outrageous

>>153252951
Lebron, Kyrie, and Love handed him that ring. CP3 almost grabbed one with Ayton and Booker.

>>153252936
How is it that these dudes in their mid 20's have been so injury prone and it still feels like theyve been in the league for 10yrs. Its ridiculous how much abuse these niggas have during their ACC years and then in their College years. When they get to the NBA they are just a walking injury waiting to happen.

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>>153252962
ring check

>>153252967
>falling for the overworked jrs myth

>>153252967
because players have way more wear and tear coming into the league, its the same shit happening in the MLB and NFL
most athletes who make it are starting even before middle school now, hell in baseball pitchers getting tommy john surgery in fucking HIGH SCHOOL, its just a common practice now
if you told someone that even just a decade ago they'd send you straight to an asylum

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>>153252941
>no trades
Yeah I don't know wtf these retards are waiting for man.
>no free agents
This has always been the case though. Any player worth a shit can always just request a trade or be moved in a trade. Really great players rarely hit the market like that. And on the off chance that they do, they are almost ALWAYS restricted and teams will just match the offer anyway so it don't matter.
>>153252954
If they were smart they'd just overpay a bunch of shitters on 1 year deals and wait for 2027. As far as "names" there are much better names on that free agent class for 2027 but those dudes are also mostly old as shit:
>Steph Curry
>Jimmy Butler
>Kawhi
>Zach Lavine
>Trae Young
>Harden
>Jordan Poole
>Tyler Herro
>Isaiah Hartenstein
>Wiggins
>RJ Barrett
>Draymond
>Miles Bridges
>DeFrozen
>Cam Johnson
>Kuminga
>DeAndre Hunter
>Kuzma
>KCP
>Dillion Brooks
>Keldon Johnson
>Klay
>Lu Dort
>Max Strus
>Caris Levert
>Austin Reaves
>Divcenzo
>Grant Williams
>Josh Green
>Valanciunas
>Derrick Jones Jr
>Lonzo
>Naji Marshall
>Ayton
>Saddiq Bey
>DLo
>Beal
>Marcus Smart
>KPJ
>Alvarado
>Gary Trent
>Gary Harris
>Deanthony Melton
Even if you remove the top half of this list and say those are untouchables, the role players alone are much better for 2027 than 2026...and this list is also unrestricted...that doesn't even take into consideration the restricted players that could possibly be sniped or moved on from. Bulls would be brain dead as FUCK to sign anybody long term this offseason, instead of just waiting until 2027.

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>>153252984
this was the biggest moment in the nba, ill never forget it. free agency used to be lit. the dwight howard one too.

>>153252984
Nice list but this is the Bulce. That's why I say get ready for some anus contracts to be handed out this off season by them

>>153252936
Uncle Robinson, Grimes, Simons (maybe) and Coby are the only worthwhile signings here. Maybe timelord if you want some big depth

maybe FO of all teams should just agree they'll no longer give insane contracts for these old git so they stop giving washed players like PG 50mpy

>>153252980
They're unironically training too much. Most sports sre braindead intuition and doesn't need much training if you've got "it".

>>153252991
Yes but what you have to remember that those players colluded for that. Remember originally it was supposed to be Melo, Lebron, and Wade. Melo being the greedy fuck that he was, decided to take the money instead of the shorter contract, so that's how it became Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. Shit like that rarely happens, the only other time I can think something like that happened was when KD+Kyrie decided to go play in New York...unless we're going backwards, which I guess Allen, KG, and Pierce but that was before Lebron and company did it. So 3 times in nearly 80 years.
>>153252999
It'll never happen because a lot of the players are already under paid based on the money they bring in. These teams are worth billions of dollars and they're only worth that shit because of said players playing for them. Lebron might be an old whiny sack of bitch, but he's being paid 60 mil a year, while generating billions for the teams he plays on. It's the same reason why everyone laughs at the WNBA since these chicks want to be paid millions while barely generating any type of money.
>>153252994
Your front office can't be THAT retarded can it? They've at least made moves to try and win which I can at least respect. I do think they need to get better at drafting though.
>>153252997
We're not talking about worthwhile, we're talking about going out and giving a bag. None of these players move the needle for Chicago and Coby White would be a resign, I forgot to remove him off the list. Simons is a glorified chucker. Grimes is alright. Honestly, they're better off waiting for 2027. Maybe sign one highly coveted guy that you can move at the deadline for draft stock and then hope you draft well+hit on someone in 2027.

>>153252984
>Kawhi
He doesn't care enough about basketball to stick around so he'll probably retire by 2027.
>Draymond
Unless he's in Golden State, he probably retires too. If he's still in GS, I can see him sticking around for as long as Steph is around.
>Jimmy Butler
He doesn't care enough about basketball to stick around plus his body is failing him.
>Steph
It really all depends on what happens this year. I don't see Steph caring enough to stick around and playing mediocre basketball with a dog shit lottery/play-in team. He'd probably retire and be a family man instead of wasting his time.
>Harden
Retired or begging for another contract.
>DeFrozen
Retired or playing for peanuts.
Everybody else on this list is young enough to where they'll still be playing and probably not resigning, everyone else is probably up for grabs.

All that 'playing for my hometeam means everything' rhetoric doesn't count for much when Harden sees the writing on the wall, hell his main residence is in PHX ffs

>>153252842
>jeet mad he'll be the only clippers fan here
KEK

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Since I hear Garlic is being shopped around, I know a seasoned POA vet that got 2nd in finals MVP rankings not too long ago!

>>153252930
there's zero percent chance russell westbrook eats wavy lays. there's a reason mealanon loosk like he does, and there's a reason russell westbrook looks like he does.

>>153252943
kek

>>153253161
You have a retarded understanding of nutrition

>skimmed twitter due to recent trade talks
>bunch of normie retards repeating things i was told here nobody believes about garland, and that garland totally isnt actually getting traded
>"injury prone", "overpaid!", "shit", "cavs dlo" "overrated"
>realize that /nba/ probably believes this
>all the bandwagoning fools not realizing all this was said as much about Hali before his playoffs run
>only difference is that garland might get traded to a team so shit, and with so few prospects that the narrative will stay
realizing this is the biggest filter of realizing whether somebody knows ball or doesnt lately.

>clippers look like top 3 team in the league
>AHHHHHHHHH GET ME OUT OF THIS SHITHOLE
really, harden?

>>153252930
lmfao

>>153253166
You have a retarded understanding of russell westrbrook

>>153253175
>clippers look like top 3 team in the league
Must've been quite some dream you were having.

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still waiting for those heavy hitting games

>>153253171
Literally nobody cares about Garland but you. The only guards worth a damn in the East are Cade, Hali, and Brunson

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>>153253184
they been hot recently

>>153253200
>Bumson

>>153253200
Wouldn't even put Brunshit in Cade/Hali talks

>>153253208
you think hali is on cades level? lol

>>153253208
Yeah, I debated leaving him out like I did Maxey, but he's at least brought his team to a conference finals

>>153252577
Boozer is having arguably the most productive freshman season in college basketball history. Peterson has just looked like a really good 3nD guy so far, the playmaking has been really poor. Also Kansas hasn’t really played better with him on the court versus off of it

>>153253200
Many literally said the exact same last year. Infact, even when Hali made it to the finals, ESPN retard panelists were still freaking about whether they could call him a "superstar" because their smallminded brains couldnt imagine a guard averaging 17 and 9, being as impactful as he was.

People did this shit, and still do this bullshit with Steve Nash to this day. ESPN can't anymore because theyre accolade merchants and Nash is literally employed with the NBA media or whatever.

Those who understand ball, understand that Garland is in that same category of underappreciated as Hali and Nash.

As for Cade? You know what. I actually give him some credit. Not as good a playmaker as Garland, and HARD carried by his height (ive seen garland make tougher finishes at the rim or get into the paint easier, but because hes shorter, hesess successful at finishing). But hes a genuinely solid defender, and at the very least, he can chuck his way enough to 25 points because nobody else on his team can handle the ball.

The true test of Cade, will be how he fairs alongside a better teammate who could demand as many or more touches than him.

Nash already experienced that (in an era where the PG was even less valued) alongside Dirk. But Nash is also like a top 3 passer ever, while also being a top 5 most efficient players ever, so hes excused of being ball dominant a bit more than most imo.

>>153253236
>HARD carried by his height
manlet detected

>>153253204
The problem is this hot streak has a lot to do with kawai playing well, who is either going to be suspended soon, or out for the season with another injury. Maybe both.

>>153253254
valid.

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>>153253204
>they've been hot recently
>12 wins in January
>beat Washington twice
>beat Utah twice
>beat Brooklyn twice
>beat Charlotte and Toronto (which took an overtime to do)
The only impressive W they got the entire month of January was beating Detroit but okay.
>>153253254
No the problem with the "hot streak" is that majority of their wins came from playing absolute atrocious dog shit teams. But sure, I guess they're a top 3 team in the league. They're clearly better than Detroit, Knicks, Celtics, Thunder, Spurs, and Nuggets. Or at the very least better than 4 of these teams.

>>153253250
I bet im taller than you. Height is overrated, just makes you look awkward among the average person if you have no "practical" use for it.

>>153253272
We need more people like you. Retards are genuinely subhuman and just look at everything at the surface level to be consumed and spun to affirm their preconceived narrative.

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>>153253289
what would you bet, and how would you prove it

>>153253300
kek, draymonds face
dont need to prove anything to your dumbass anyway, you can believe what you want

I got a brand new phone from Amazon for free. Thanks NBA

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>Mr Silver, Shams blew the Giannis story. He's not leaving the Bucks.
>Activate the Harden Plan B

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>>153253306
so what you're saying is that, in fact, you would NOT wager you are taller than an anonymous person on the internet.

>>153253314
The NBA is so fucking gay

>>153253314
makes you wonder what kinda shit teams have in the works

>>153253314
You are a huge faggot

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>>153253333
What did I do?

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Who's he getting?

>>153253342
kek

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>>153253333
based faggot identifier

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>>153253360
>hey Reggie, if you could compare Caitlin Clark to any NBA player, based on their game who would you say?
>Payton Pritchard
Nigga shitted on her

>>153253333
HE'S A FAG!
HE'S GAY!
HE PARTAKES IN SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH MEN!

>>153253362
>5.1 turnovers per game
>37% on field goals
Pritchard is flattering her, she’s Cole Anthony

>>153253362
>>153253393
pritchard is at least 500 levels above caitlin clark.

>>153253438
5 gorillion hundred

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>niggas in /nba/ sucking the skin off Pritchard's pink cock

>>153253443
if caitlin clark and payton pritchard played 100 1v1 games, payton would win 100. and it wouldn't be close.

>>153252972
Getting crossed up by Iverson for the ring.

If trae was traded for a bag of chips imagine what Larden is worth. Probably a bag of rice, weird decisions by the clips

>>153253362
more like sports media is required to export celtics propaganda

>>153253475
Harden isn't a midget, so he's automatically worth more than Trae

>>153253475
Says the retard spanish who is not even worth a bag of rice for paella.

why do my eyes hurt like a very very faint "burning"

According to basketball folklore, teams that keep personnel together for multiple seasons are rewarded with success. This is called continuity.

>>153253495
continuity requires faith in your players and staff

>>153253490
Also correct but mean and uncalled for
>>153253486
36 and also plays zero defense

>>153253506
harden has a weird talent for post defense. cleveland could maybe hide him.

>>153253492
Tired eyes probably

damn damn damn damn....

Why the fuck is jokic dogshit now. The past two seasons were actually his last chances to get another ring. His threepeat was stolen from him.

>>153253521
Sold his soul for that rang, not been the same since

>>153253519
>damn damn damn damn....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIPJfdjnR_8

>>153253506
EPM has Harden at -1.2 and Trae and -1.5 D-EPM
Trae is legit one of the worst defensive liabilities in the NBA because of his size

Gonna night night now. Today is slightly better than yesterday. At least we got that harden news. Hopefully we get more once i wake up.

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>Deni,

>every time you step onto the court, our country beams with pride.

>For the People of Israel you aren’t just any star, you are OUR Star of David!

>>153253539
This makes me so proud to be Jewish

>>153253514

Harden finna be washed the moment he lands in Cleveland my nigga

>>153253548
There are a lot more Jewish stars than manlet third worlders players, that's for sure.

>>153253539
This makes me so embarassed to be Jewish

>>153253548
FUCK JEWS

>>153253554
SEAbros…

>>153253518
it's time i go to bed i guess.

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Nobody rates DenIDF

>>153253571
the majority of nba players are african american, and they are guided by white supremacy, so therefore the jew is harmed

>>153253571
>sengoon
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
and wow the players really hate lauri and reeves too. i dont understand why randle is so rated though

>>153253571
I do

Remember when Airious Bailey was going to be rookie of the year because he had magnets on for a single preseason game

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>LeBron James has never suffered a season-ending injury

>>153253583
>i dont understand why randle is so rated though
he's very "athletic"

>>153253606
Must be his “defence”

>>153253606
he fucks their wives???

>>153253571
with these votes and the harden trade it's pretty obvious kawhi is getting suspended or some shit

>>153253571
>CurrGOAT over FTA
The players know.

yooo...
https://x.com/i/status/2018342669425295421

why are all leafs retarded

>>153253698
>t. retard

what are the casv cooking

>>153253690
>come on milwuakee podz and kuminga are good players u should take the deal
desperate

>>153252467
Whats the point of you making these trades? Bored? Lonely? Retarted?

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thoughts?

>>153254766
As the #1 artist and OC maker itt I like it aside from the shitty gradients and spray paint looking texture on the shapes. Those look like a little kid made them.

>>153254752
hes indian and retarded

>>153254787
Like i dont mind trades but when its just spamming shit like JOKIC FOR GIANNIS XDDD tier shit it gets old instantly

Harden, Bitchell, Mobley and Jarrett Allen on the same team gonna set records for choking.

/nba/, who is OUR Star of David?

>>153254861
KKKooper & KKKon

>>153254861
I guess the israel poater

>>153254838
Is Harden getting traded again?

>>153254835
Yeah it's annoying and retarded. Most of his trades don't make sense for either teams as well. Just trading for the sake of trading

>>153254902
He wants out again and every single time hes wanted out he got what he wanted. Deadline is in 2 days and about 4 hours

Flagg will score 70 tonight in his first game against the Celtics. He probably won't even miss a shot. In fact, he'll probably end up with more points than he actually scores due to a Celtics player accidentally tipping it into their own basket while he's nearby. Probably.

I like the Kyrie for Garland rumour I heard better than the Harden for Garland news. Its just that, the cavs likely have to abandon all contention hopes this year if they committed to Kyrie, so its not a likely trade.

>>153255023
Weird. He didn't ask when they were losing and now they're vibing he asks for a trade

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When an ugly stranger calls you twin

>>153255064
Its about money, he wants a bag that the clippers front office isnt willing to give him.

>>153255023
>ynr the harden fat suit

>>153255071
is this gay or comraderie?

>>153255082
Isn't he getting the max now? What's his problem

>>153255108
Extension. Clippers won’t give it to him.

>>153255093
Youngins call it glaze

I like when Whites dunk on darkies and I like when darkies dunk on light skinned negros

>>153253854
a 2nd round exit but they can blame harden instead of injuries

>>153255139
East is so shit harden led Cavs team could actually win the east but they would be swept by the west winner. Kinda like those old early 00s nets teams that would be swept by the lakers or the spurs

>>153254752
Kek

Honestly think harden on the cavs makes
sense, they need someone to stop mitchells retard heroball late game

>>153254752
I’m thinking all three

cavs got schroder only to put him in the deal for harden
then the clippers will probably get rid of schroder also if that trade happens

Brook lopez is unplayable now

>>153255217
theyre trying to trade garland not schroeder.

>>153255217
Why does the league love slave trading Dennis

>>153255287
Punishment for ww2

Jawniece is gonna go to India's Rabdors for one chip then he's gonna dip to Somalia's Knisk to never win again until retirement.

>>153255292
I see

>>153255296
Raptors should get draft comp if they are taking on Greek Negro's salaray and future extension

Can an old head tell me why Jordan’s competition was so weak relative to LeBron’s?

>>153255322
bball was underfunded in america because it was the sport for blacks. now affluent blacks/nigerians are investing in their kids bball education early.

>>153255322
No competetition in any era is 'weak'. These are professional athlete's who have dedicated their life to the sport.

>>153255322
Realistically, aside from Cooper Flagg, you will not see anyone white or really even light skin guard LeBron James. In Jordan’s era it wasn’t uncommon for him to be guarded an entire playoff series by a Danny Ainge, Jeff Hornacek, Craig Ehlo, guys like that. And there was no zone

>>153255371
>Underfunded
How? Besides soccer, basketball is the easiet game to go somewhere and play.

>>153255322
when you defeat all the competition you're supposed to, because you're the best, they don't get rangz
when u don't, because you're not the best, your opponents build dynasties on your head
this may appear that the competition was harder

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What the fuck is his problem?

>>153255322
Smaller international talent pool, Jordan never had to go up against a Jokic/Luka/Giannis and only faced Sabonis way out of his prime. Now 4/5ths of the 1st All NBA team is international, Jordan never had comp.

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>>153255387

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>>153255440

>>153252532
So the Cavs just got Schröder to address their PG problem and already looking to replace him?

>>153255442
Jormickey

>>153255465
My guess Schroeder addresses their Lonzo/Ty Jerome problem whereas Harden will address their Garland issue

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Sam Presti saw this and thought it was lottery pick worthy

>>153255391
still blacks couldnt afford to send their kids to camps. kids could get good on their own, but they werent being seen unless a coach went out on their own dime to recruit them. thats why most stories in the past were about ghetto kids being scooped up out of poverty. now all the talent just shows up to basketball camps. kd wasnt kidding when he said his mom was the ream mvp cause she spent all her money getting him to camps and bball powerhouse highschools. now every story is more similar to steph currys.

>>153255322
Can your mother tell us why she didn't swallow you?

>>153255418
>WHY DOES THIS MAN DO THINGS STRICTLY FOR MONEY??????? IT MAKES NO SENSE?????
Stop being a fucking poor

>>153255490
ok buy whats the difference between this and current day wembyama

After all that

>>153255322
Every other sport’s fans admit today’s players are far better than their predecessors due to sports science and the ability to learn from the past. Every sport aside from NBA

>goes to the easier East
>chance to get 1 more big contract
Chef Harden cooking

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>Giannis to the Warriors
>Harden to the Cavs
>Sabonis to the Raptors
Who else?

>>153252480
Jokic is 31

>>153255543
'nadian truth nuke

>>153255322
When Jordan came into the league there was all kinds of competition but it became a vacuum in the early 90s. Bird, Magic, Isiah figuratively ded, Bias, Lewis, Drazen literally ded, Sabonis and Kukoc in yurop, league expansion, arguably the second best player in the league on the same team as the best.

>>153255425
>Jokic/Luka/Giannis
Hakeem was better than all of them, only he was letting down by having no help during the majority of his prime

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>>153255407
No this is wrong. There were no players like Jason Terry in the 90s

>>153255634
Hakeem's greatest achievement was being born into a weak era and Jordan take 2 seasons off for gambling.

Harden on 2 years 40m/yr is better for cleveland than Garland on max money. Miracle move by cleveland. Emergence of tyson and them getting strus back + sniper in merrill. Oh and they have Donovan Mitchell, the dpoy in mobley, jarrett allen. Oh and guard depth and defense in Keon Ellis and Schroder. Cavs gm is a miracle worker. Looks like Harden plays almost every game these last 3 seasons and he's still better than garland in the playoffs.

>>153255592
Giannis to Raptors
Harden to Raptors
Sabonis to Raptors

cleveland will regret this

>BREAKING: nobody wants GAYBE or knecht

BREAKING: The Memphis Grizzlies are trading star forward Jaren Jackson Jr., John Konchar, Jock Landale and Vince Williams Jr. to the Utah Jazz for Walter Clayton Jr., Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendricks, Georges Niang and three future first-round picks, sources tell ESPN.

>>153255789
Memphis now has 13 firsts in the next 7 years.

They are tied with Brooklyn and OKC.

>>153255789
The Utah fucking Jazz made a move before anyone else

>>153255789
Why is Utah going all in for JJJ of all people?

>>153255789
>"we'll give you 2 first round picks to not include ja morant"
>"naw, 3"

>>153255730
Yesterday on a podcast Windy said Garland was getting close to coming back but they’re figuring out a plan to have him play with plates in his shoes. This isn’t sustainable

do the pisstones do anything at the deadline?

im retarded can someone explain why the tanking bad utah jazz are trading picks for players like they want to win

the grizzlies are rebuilding

>>153255789
Ainge just facilitated Giannis to Memphis lol

>>153255789
Wow, they are blowing it up completely

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>>153255786

>>153255789
BASED GRIZZGODS

Danny Ainge is a retard.

>>153255824
I think his son is the GM now

>>153255789
why?
>>153255802
kek
>>153255809
yeah someone explain it to me.

>>153255786
you have to go back.

>>153255634
All those players you mentioned also have no help during their primes. Hakeem is better than all of them though for sure. I think Hakeem might be the best center of all time

UTAH KWABZZ

>>153255786
He’s right, you know

>>153255809
They like what they are seeing form Lauri and Keyonte who are duo-handedly carrying their offensive rating, so they might just go for it next year with whatever draft pick they get this year

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>turns JJJ and Bane into effectively 8 firsts
I kneel. All in on Edey.