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>>154235741
Leave poop fraudiola to me
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>>154235861
Probably click the not interested button on a ton of my YouTube recommendations.
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Biggest thing I hate about the club is how international it's become. It's literally a product now. I hate seeing so many foreign flags in the thread. Fuck off if you're not from British Isles or DON'T have a player of your nationality in the squad.
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>haramball vs haramball
Kino beckons, but before that >our humiliation ritual continues this sunday.
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>>154236145
I’m French. it’s literally more our team than yours bitch. The important history of the arse is French. The soul is French. It just happens to be in london
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>lead down to a couple of points
>rematch with a league rival just a few weeks after demoralizing loss
>banter at a season high
Can I dream lads?
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>muh haramball
>artetaliban
When will retards finally understand, we arent playing like this out of tactics, our team fundamentally does not exist beyond defensive midfield. The team has been shattered and has been in decline since December. It's reached the critical point where theres nothing left in them. We dont play for 0-0 for any reason other than we have a competent defense and nothing else. Our games arent defensive and controlled, they are very open. Once the ball makes it past the defensive third its just waiting to be dispossessed, and the match becomes a glorified defense training drill.
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fell asleep in the first 20 minutes, glad i missed all of it
>>154237261
it's more that teta is setting us up like 2010 spain but without any offensive mavericks like torres or villa to pull the trigger and shitty midfielders who are allergic to passing the ball forward
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woahhh STANDARDS! Making history!
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>>154236145
>I hate about the club is how international it's become. It's literally a product now.
>Fuck off if you're not from British Isles or DON'T have a player of your nationality in the squad
That's 600m people, not exactly *support your local club* territory
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>>154236145
will you.... end me?
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Battle of the Grim.
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>>154238285
We're not 6 points ahead, we're 3 points ahead because we will lose at the etihad on sunday, and we're not even 3 points ahead because we're going to lose another 1-2 matches after that.
All the aforementioned facts aside; we're playing a complete SLOG of football, david.
We're complete and utter SHITE. We have completely forgotten how to form an attack, we can't correctly pass the ball, we don't know how to make runs and through balls, we're making mistakes in our own third constantly, our defense is no where near the level it was at the start of the season. Most importantly, the team looks absolutely SHATTERED. Completely drained physically, but that's not even all there is, the chemistry between the players is no where to be found as well for some reason, they look as if this is the first time they're playing together, every time they're on the pitch. We cant even string simple passes together without fucking it up to no mans land. This all adds up perfectly with the fact that we completely lack individual prowess since this team set up have always been a "teamwork" oriented approach, which makes the current situation even more DIRE.
So in conclusion, all is not actually well, its fucken miserable in fact.
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For your sake I hope you win the Premier League but lose the UCL semi-final. It would be really sour to win EPL and then lose out on the UCL, kek. let atleti take the bullet
Maybe next season Arseanal can win UCL.
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I remember a month or two ago where we were making scores and it turned out arsenal could afford 2 losses and a couple draws whilst city had a pretty good run to the line. It's definitely not over. But after the city game they cannot lose. Their loss quota runs out after city. Play the u14s, rest arteta. After that, there's zero excuses.
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>>154240411
no I got MY eyes on you, I will not tolerate any open racism on /arse/!
>>154240387
there always is even it’s just our wishful thinking.
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Eight clean sheets in 12 CL games.
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>>154240540
Do you want an NFL pitch too?
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>>154240789
Most importantly, no fucking midday kickoffs left.
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>>154240234
This trophy-winning manager and former Hale Ender.
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>>154240234
Slegers.
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>>154241499
I dont want the club to be out of the CL in the first knockout round year after year after year after year.
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FABREGAS IN
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>>154241807
as the infamous iraqi politician mustafa sanad said when there was a decision to make a secondary oil pipe to deliver iraqi oil through jordan and into aqaba port(so that iraq doesn't get chocked when the hormuz strait gets blocked(which happened in the following two years)):-
"i will go there and blow it(arsenal football club) up my self"
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>“I am dreaming so much, I have done so much to be in this position. I see beauty, opportunity, I want to get it done. I have zero fear. Purpose, fire, direction, conviction that we will do it.”
Big words Mikel. Make sure to follow through. There will be no 2nd chances.
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>>154242232
The thing is, I know >we can actually win on Sunday. We've seen how many holes City have in their defence. We know how easily teams can exploit it. The question is, will >WE do any of that? Nothing in the last 6 years has given me any reason whatsoever to say 'yes' even tentatively. It'll be a resounding 'no'. So yeah, I can see a draw, because pretty much every single match is score a shitty goal and then defend for the rest of the match and >we can't even do the first part properly so it'll just be defend for the rest of the match starting from kick off. I pray that I am wrong but I've no reason to think I will be.
>>154242244
Oh damn. RIP.
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>>154242232
You never know with this team. Like the beyer game they came out thundering. Great performance out of the blue. A draw is very much on the cards. A win a little less. My honest feeling right now is a win however. They've got a bit of magic left this season. Is it logical? No. It's just a feel. A filthy 0-1 win. I feel that's the most likely result. I think a 2-0 loss is logically the most likely however.
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>>154241639
You come under our domain so you're allowed to be one of us in a sporting sense. We do of course carry these isles on every major sport and competition. You are like our development team that feels genes into our pool.
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>>154242270
>>“I am dreaming so much, I have done so much to be in this position. I see beauty, opportunity, I want to get it done. I have zero fear. Purpose, fire, direction, conviction that we will do it.”
Professional waffler at his peak. Every single sentence is just filled with lies and nonsense. He got 6 and a half years and a billion pounds to get here. There is no beauty anywhere to be seen on the pitch. Opportunities are plenty but nothing to make anyone believe that these opportunities will be taken. If he wants to get it done, he's showing it in a really fucking bizarre way, by dropping points and crashing out of competitions. "Zero fear" is just fucking laughably false. True fear has taken hold of every single fucking person in the club. "Purpose, fire, direction, conviction to do it" is again demonstrably false.
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This is not the face of a man delighted to be in the semifinals
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>>154242389
>miserable fella no trophies and no life, no women..omg it’s upsetting
it's ok as there are options
you should just end it now as been recommended, mr. poster 'who never posts here'
or you can get a prozzie ok your choice
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>>154242458
Kane was sent to Spurs where he was just good enough to be their greatest ever player but not good enough to win them a single thing
It was intentional. He absolutely hates Spurs (the natural state of man)
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>>154242341
We need to remember to the good times.
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>>154242244
So sad. They said it was an accident I really hope it was.
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>>154242232
Not playing like that.
Not playing like yesterday, not playing like against Bournemouth, not like against Soton and especially not like against City not so long ago.
>>154242270
>I have zero fear.
LOL
LMAO
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On the weekend, we’ll see the logical conclusion of Artetaball.
He ruins every player he coaches. >we are in dire need of a rebuild when the squad should be in their primes and in win mode.
And for all these sins, he will be rewarded with a raise and an extension.
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I just realized that we play not to lose, we don't play to win, in fact we play to draw...The way we are set up is to ensure we take minimal risks to concede but also to score...Watching Bayern yesterday was unreal, Madrid kept catching them on the counter, and they kept taking risks to score up until the very end.
Pragmatic Arteta would have shut up shop as soon as Neuer fumbled in the 1st minute
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>>154243215
playing is a very loose term now for >us since >we can’t do anything exceptionally good now. Even the defending has gone from league winning Mou Chelsea standard to still very good to absolute shit in the span of a couple months. >We can’t pass, can’t defend and sure as hell can’t attack, add the already countless neck breaking mistakes to it and ‘playing’ turns into whatever >we do now.
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>>154243282
It's not really playing, my eyes were opened yesterday when I had the two games going side by side. I came to the realization that we are not an elite team, and the talks of winning a quad were straight up foolishness.
Bayern are on to win the quad and they look the part.
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>>154243401
I think (You) should learn something.
>>154243282
yeah >we are gonna bottle again
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these people are not real
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>>154243955
I am convinced most of the people who talk about >us, or honestly any club, online genuinely don't actually watch the matches. They see highlights and form their opinions after reading the comments and they just accept that as reality. The amount of people thinking >we'd cake walk over Southampton, Sporting, Bournemouth, even fucking Man City, was just ridiculous. All while talking about >we have a cheat code with >our set pieces. It's so obvious that they haven't watched a single match in months. Hell, even some actual commentators spout the same nonsense.
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>>154242545
Look at his eyes. He's got the Kelleher look. The lad who played Joffrey in GoT look.
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>>154244176
I don't think any of those lads you mentioned look traditionally Irish.
THIS is the ultimate Irish phenotype.
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>>154244097
people also get swayed too easily by set narratives, be it online communities, the media or god forbid professional shit stirrers aka ‚pundits‘. You can easily make a rather solid prediction if you watch a team at the start of the season for maybe 10-15 games and I always knew and preached that >our style if you want to call it that isn’t sustainable. The corners and whatnot have papered over so many cracks and even the most elite of defense can’t carry you to a title if you don’t have at least one or two clutch attackers,
hell even then injuries happen or bad spells. Arteta has been utterly mind-broken because of all the bridesmaid never the bride memes over the last few seasons that he went off the deep end and instead of tweaking an already impressive team slightly he went and sacrificed the whole attack. Sure >we haven’t had players like Ode, Kai or even Saka for most of the season but that’s not an excuse. People need
to wake up, football has become so overly complicated in people’s minds and to a certain extent they are right but most often it’s not, just like with Wenger and for example his everlasting refusal to buy a real fucking DM, among other things of course, Arteta has some so obviously bad habits/core problems that he just refuses to fix. It’s driving me mad, but of course the worst thing is the mentality aspect.
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If you guys are so much smarter than Arteta, whats your line up, formation and plan to beat this?
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>>154236145
How about you cucks do something about your club hen? Start copying intrnational things too. Invade the training ground, demand answers from the players and coach as to why they are performing so badly for months?
Shitcunts, cucks, acceptance of mediocrity.
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>>154243215
Artetaball is all about control and suffocating the opposition. Push the opposition back into their box before trying to enter the box and score. If we fail at scoring and lose possession the opposition is pushed so far back that they can't counter and we win the ball back without everyone needing to run back 60 meters. Now with everyone being out of form or injured we can't play that way. So Artetaball is not working and we simply try to hang on every minute of every game.
I think we got the balance of the team completely wrong (bad transfers + unlucky injuries in same position). So what we see this season is not Artetaball but Arteta doing whatever he can to make this unbalanced team competitive. And yeah you could argue that he is not doing a good job at making this team competitive (although we are in first with a few games to go, got into one final and one semifinal so maybe he is doing well with this unbalanced squad (that he himself built))
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I grew up in norf London. My gran lives literally opposite the stadium. Went to games. The North London Forever song is fucking gay because having grown up there, I know it's an utter shit hole and my parents were right to move us away. My heart is not there "forever". I despise that shit hole, feel ill when I return and I think sharteta should cease that song ASAP. The fans singing it are probably from Saint Albans and Hemel Hempstead anyway. Let me tell you now, nothing good goes on in that area.
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>>154244824
A really good post. I'll add that injuries in the same position are not a coincidence. Every game they go hard on whoever is on the right. Saka, Dowmen, Madueke. They always go for the legs and the ankles, always double up on defensive players there.
The transfers are absolutely dreadful though. Gyokeres is a good player but I find his role doesn't do any favours. He should be more like a poacher similar to Haaland. He's far too often found out wide playing the ball in when he is thmost dangerous player to receive the cross.
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Is that the same trophy that the mighty tottenham hotspurs are currently holding
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I think Gyökeres would be very good in the team two years ago. The team when we had Nketiah playing striker because Jesus was injured (and then Havertz became a striker again because Nketiah was useless). I really thought we would return to that kind of football this season since last year was a shitshow of injuries. The true Artetaball of suffocating opposition. Gyökeres fighting in the middle as the striker in that team would be great. I really preferred Gyökeres ahead of Isak because of the way I assumed we would play. But this years football I guess Isak would have fit us better (assuming he wouldn't get injured all season as he has been for Liverpool).
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>>154244824
I can take all the shitposting and trolling and schizoposting and all characterfaggotry with all other forms of mental retardation that goes on regulary in this anonymous IRGC recruitment site. But YOU always successfully manage to make me facepalm IRL with your ungodly posts, every season it's these "unfortunate" set of events that are somehow always unique to arteta's arsenal, it's always not a direct consequence of arteta's management and tactics, but rather just outside factors that are utterly out of the manager's hand, which somehow shifts the discussion into how arteta is "doing the best he can in this unfavorable situation"(which has coincidentally happened to arteta FIVE(5)[fünf]{fem} times in A ROW).
There's no "artetaball", over all these seasons he managed us, you cant form a singular unique style that he consistently used and improved over the said period. We weren't this hyper "defense & control" oriented team in the previous seasons, we famously were saying in this general that we will inevitably concede but we will outscore the opponent usually.
This approach took a shift in the last 2 seasons and we became more defensive and set piece dependant and our attack waned heavily. And if he stays(GOD FORBID PLEASE NO) i can gurantee you the playstyle will shift again in the next couple of seasons.
When someone says hansi flick, you directly think about extremely offensive football, when someone says klopp you instantly think gegenpress, when another mentions pep everyone says tiki taka. Aretetaball doesn't exist and that's the biggest issue we have along these last 5 seasons, the football style is constantly being constructed and going into "the next phase" which is why we're always a club that's under the "next season" mentality.
God i feel like shit typing all of this when we're inevitably going to end up trophyless once more....
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>>154245333
I think you project a bit too much in your post. I never claimed any of the first part.
But I don't agree there is no Artetaball. We have always tried to keep possession and force the opponent to defend deep, we have always pressed high when losing possession, we have always defended deep when the pressing fails and we have always been a bad team at counter attacking (more important to keep possession and push the opponent back). That has been the way of Arteta since his first season when he managed to buy his own players. And I still believe we play that way except that we don't have the quality to keep possession or press the opponents well anymore. Which means we end up in the defending deep position much more than before (and emotional fans like yourself think it is a new tactic (when it was always what we did when we failed the press)). And yes, our counter attacking is still very bad.
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>>154245311
>I really preferred Gyökeres ahead of Isak
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>>154245558
>i prefer a flair merchant who cant stay fit instead
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>>154244340
>people also get swayed too easily by set narratives, be it online communities, the media or god forbid professional shit stirrers aka ‚pundits‘.
Lord knows that's true. And in some fucked up way, they kinda "have" to shit stir, because that gets them more views and engagement which means more money.
>I always knew and preached that >our style if you want to call it that isn’t sustainable.
Yup. You could tell that if the set piece goals wlever dried up, >we would be well and truly fucked. And lo and behold, >we look completely toothless in every way. I stupidly had hope until about the end of December but I knew then the cowardball would crash. >Our tactic would be fine if the manage wasn't such a fucking humongous coward. 1-0 totl the Arsenal could have worked but the manager was too much of a fucking coward for even that. It's exactly as you say, the mentality is by far the worst part.
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That was exactly my point. People, and commentators, keep saying "Oooh, they got a corner, we all know Arsenal are lethal from corners, look at them set up" when >we haven't scored from one in who knows how long. I genuinely don't know. Noni's corner against Leeds is the last one I can remember but I don't know if that was the last one ever.
But people who don't actually watch matches have this idea that >we are still excellent at them and always score from them.
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>>154245417
We ABSOLUTELY cannot blame external factors anymore, it's a complete rubbish of an excuse.
How many external factors are there? This is his SEVENTH season at the club, he delivered ONE fa CUP, and CHOCKED the league fucken 4 times(? I cant even keep count anymore thats how messed up this is) the external factor might have happened once; perhaps we're unlucky and it occured twice, but ALL THIS?
no way, in quite simple mathmatix, there's only ONE constant in the football club, everything around him from players to fans to assisstants to chiefs to medical departments to the members of the board are all shifting, but he's the only constant in this equation that remained unchanged, how can you interpret this in any other way?
The only remaining constant needs to be replaced to have a different outcome for the equation, otherwise this is all futile.
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We're objectively NOT a bad counter attacking team; nor is it not a part of "arteta's system"(whatever it may be), the sole reason we employ martinelli(whos basically legally blind) is to help the defensive fuck ups and to catch opponents off guard on the counter( which occured multiple times).
And our possession style is a complete mystery that even arteta himself doesn't know when will it work and when will it not, this becomes evident when we play even slightly compotent opponents(aka manchester city& liverpool) who just simply take the ball away and don't fall for our pass the ball to raya then hoof it in the middle of the pitch.
>press high when out of possession and defend deep when press doesn't work
What else do you think we can do? What other option is there?
"The style is we do A, and if A doesn't work we do B, and if B doesn't work we do C"
That's not a playstyle, that's just getting swept away wherever the wind blows.
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>>154244824
>Push the opposition back into their box before trying to enter the box and score.
I feel like this is the embodiment of "playing not to win, but not to lose" though. Packing 11 players into their box and then trying to score when every single player has to take a minimum of 3 touches before doing anything is nonsensical imo. And all the forwards are tasked to track back and defend so they all have to sprint full pelt back to >our box every time they lose the ball anyway. Arteta is far too worried about never conceding than actually scoring. Because after scoring one goal, the tactic seems to be to just camp out in >our defensive third and never push out. Possession and traditional control just goes right out the window completely. Which is also why so many first and second balls always goes to the other team seemingly. Because none of >our players feel comfortable chasing after them because that would be too risky. Is that the actual reason? I've no clue. But watching the matches, that's what it seems like to me.
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>>154245801
allahuakbar fampai.. idk why youre so negative and salty. iirc you were studying to be a doctor? imgine being super salty at your patience because..they come to you because they are sick?.... but fine ill bite.
>We ABSOLUTELY cannot blame external factors anymore
ofc we can. every fan of every club does that. how much weight you put on it is a different question. things have to go your (our) way. heres an example - ode challenged for a 50/50 - he has his meniscus torn; the other guy doesnt event need spray. same with merino. same with refs - sure we had a few soft calls go our way but weve had plenty of ref fuck ups and bad decision even this season let alone past seasons. lastly - imagine that korean cunt finishing the 1v1 vs shittys second GK....
>This is his SEVENTH season at the club, he delivered ONE fa CUP
>longevity doesnt count for shit.
>...perhaps we're unlucky and it occured twice, but ALL THIS?
so ok we can blame shit on something else twice, arteta has been in charge for what 6 full seaons if we include this one? we covid seasons and about 2 years for him to get his squad. so leaves us with what.. 2 seasons? last season was a joke so we're left with one season so ill give you that.
as for the rest of your argument - ill sum up artetas philosophy in one word - win. thats it. is it pretty? maybe not always. do we win every game? no. does he have flaws? yes. hes been consistent about that for years - win in different/every circumstance.
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>>154246309
pshhh
>imblying the London Football Awards isnt the ball d'or for managers
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>>154244861
>t. grew up in Finsbury Park or some other doss hole near the Emirates
Your parents moved away because they couldn't afford the nice parts like Islington. So yeah, you only knew the shit parts because you're a poor fag. (Don't worry, I'm a poor fag from south London, and if you think the Holloway Road area is terrible you need to see more of the city, and I think it's obvious north London as a whole has most of the city's nicest neighbourhoods.)
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>>154247650
No we were further north in a leafy suburb that became a shithole because people bought houses and turned them into flats meaning scum began to be moved in by the council. The nice parts are next to the shit holes too if you've ever been. Council estates are next to the big houses, scum roam everywhere. Schools are shit holes unless you go to a private school. Unless you're living in somewhere like Hampstead garden suburbs you cannot escape it. And even then you travel through shit holes. London is just a grim place. Pretty much every British city is the same. I love Edinburgh but you are never far from shit bags and the stench of weed. Hence white flight to smaller towns and villages.
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Last night i was watching the Betis Braga match. I saw Bellerin getting completely humiliated by a Braga player, who afterwards does the pass for the 4th Braga goal.
It made me laugh so hard. Never change dude, never change, 4 ever a retarded player.
How did he managed to stay at Arsenal for so long?
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All three English teams progressed last night in Europe. Even more evidence the EPL is the best league. The depth in teams is what's most notable. The top teams are similar to the other top European sides but the mid table and relegation sides blow other leagues of the water.
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>>154250647
His absence has been painful, so I never forgot him. Imagine if we had him and Nwaneri available, he? Criminal that we put Ethan out on loan when Madueke had spent half the season with next to no output vs what Ethan had demonstrated the year before.
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Eh. That's London in general, though. Nice bits next to shit bits. Some would say that's a good thing, unless you want total ghetto arrondissements like Paris. But I agree, most British cities and towns are holes and the countryside and smaller towns are the nice parts to live. But then you have to commute, so whatcha gonna do? Not like I've been dying to get back!
>>154250819
At one time he had good recovery pace that meant he could make up for his brain farts, but after injuries he lost that and he was doomed.
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>>154250845
Na Bellerin only asset was his pace, he was always too dumb to defend. When he lsot hsi pace, he was exposed hard.
Also he doesn't give a fuck about football, he doesn't watch his opponenets play. t's just a paycheck
Saka, yeah, we can make the argument that Arteta is ruining him
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*full, not fool obviously
>>154251114
I've been trying. Sporting game didn't help
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>Before hosting Sporting CP in the Champions League, the ‘fire’ referenced by Mikel Arteta was more than just a metaphor. The Spaniard lit a real fire at Arsenal’s training ground to symbolise purgation, purification & transformation.
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>>154251860
No. Football for players is about pride and knowing you’re the best. They’re not the best. Football for fans is about bragging rights and there’s absolutely nothing to brag about, it’s going to be a gay win by a very easily forgotten team, no one will talk about this team as one of the greats.
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>>154251332
Instead of this retard lighting a fucking a fire he should be getting every single one of his mentally weak players and himself a psychologist to sort out their weak mentality...unreal stuff...cultish stuff even
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>>154252062
Just meaningless ineffective gimmicks that do absolutely nothing. I wonder if he gets that. You know the 'fire' was a little BBQ oven with the fire brigade present in case of any mishaps. Light a massive effigy of Pep and Cherki and light it on fire, the players will respond to that. But the gimmicks are all safe little nothing gimmicks that have no effect, I'm certain of it.
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I am unironically Sharteta in. Give him a few more seasons. This football won't last because if it does he'll be ousted. I think he needs to pack in the gimmicks, create more of a tough atmosphere, bin off shitters like shartinelli, drossard, havertz.
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>>154251332
Bro has lost it