>>97341642
Did Hans just give a point to Wesley? Yes, but the question is, was it justified? Were Indian players presenting themselves points too? Idk, too many games to check.

>>97341713
This game?
https://www.chess.com/events/2026-tata-steel-chess-india-open-blitz/17/Niemann_Hans_Moke-So_Wesley
I don't see anything suspicious. And it's blitz, kind of irrelevant desu.

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Renowski's Mate

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Sven Magnus Øen Carlsen shit

>>97341824
This of course:
https://lichess.org/broadcast/tata-steel-india-rapid--blitz-2026--blitz-men/round-8/V4XkOqKz/dtZuymQT

Any good recent forearm hair pics?

>>97341949
It's winter :(

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I'm waiting for Gotham to become number #1

>>97342065
He's already number one in the list of worst chess personalities.

>>97342800
I bet you're number one with this shitty envy of yours

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I'm quite proud of this
Yes I'm 600

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>>97343081
this too
alright thats it

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>>97343081
dang

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some players enjoy living dangerously

>>97343525
YOLO

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I MADE A BRILLIANT MOVE
followed by a blunder in the next move
I love being hard stuck at 300 elo

>>97344396
Happens to the best of us, I had a game yesterday where I was up on material all the time and then missed the opponent setting up mate in one I could have easily defended
just keep at it

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a good victory

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>>97345600
his strategy is to stop playing when he loses

>>97345605
Tilt prevention should be teached in schools.

I lost a casual OTB match today on time because I couldn't reach sub-in my captured queen to promote my pawn before hitting the clock. I was few moves away from mate. Feelsbadman.

>>97347023
*reach and sub-in

>>97341713
>Hans
He better focus on more important things: https://tatasteelchess.com/en/masters/players

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wrong move

what are some good moves to always keep in mind? I've just now learned that a3 and h3 are often good to block off knights

>>97348512
Don't double fianchetto. Knights are good blockers of isolated pawns. Castle in the opposite direction for a more dynamic game. Keep bishops when the position is open, knights when it's closed. Chess is full of these type of principles. For single moves I guess they belong to opening theory rather than principles.

>>97348722
I guess principles (and maybe tactics) where the terms I was looking for. Thanks anon

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so this is a draw

>>97348512
learn Tal's five rules and learn how Fischer kicked his arse

>>97349718
Only if white has to move, otherwise black wins. Put the position on the editor, choose which side moves first, and then check the analysis: https://lichess.org/editor

>>97349789
kino. ty

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I got fucking Traxlor'd yesterday...

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Never resign!

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>>97314264

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congratz

>>97353189
Tasty.
The cheese I mean.

>>97349718
should be a win for black every time, if using superior Capture The King rules

>>97353677
2>1>4=3>6>5 with varying margins

>>97349718
>>97349789
It's all about the key squares. The key squares of a pawn where it's the only (relevant) pawn on the board are if it's on the enemy side of the board all six squares directly in front of the pawn, and if it's on its own half of the board it has only 3 such key squares - you skip the row in between.

What the hell is a key square? A key square means if the attacking king can occupy it, the pawn queens, if not it's a draw.

So here the pawn is on d7, the key squares will be c5, d5 and e5 - skip a rank due to it being on your own side of the board remember? So these concepts are kind of clunky at first and can take time to get to know but they're well worth it if you want to be good at such endings.

If white moves first: Kd2 Kc7 Kd3 Kd6 Kd4 - and the black king can never reach one of the key squares because the white key can gaurd them. Obviously if for example Ke6 instead white will just go Ke4, still stopping him from getting to the key square. The key squares are only different for a rook pawn, where the defending king only has to get to the last rank on the third file across c1/c8/f1/f8 for it to be a draw.

It's more interesting if the king has to go to the side. For example if the position is a white pawn on b4 and the white king is on c1, and the black king is on f8 the key squares become a5, b5 and c5 and the attacker must get to one. But if he goes Kc2 Ke7 Kc3 Kd6 Kc4 Kc6 he again can't get to a key square. But if he goes for the a5 square instead: Kc2 Ke7 Kb3 Kd6 Ka4 Kc5 Ka5 and he's made it and he queens.

2/2
>>97357011
Also if you're the defending king always put your king in one of the two squares in front of his pawn when you can, when that's not possible, move it to the side to match his king's movement. You can do things different but when you've seconds on the clock you want simple rules. It's very painful to lose a clearly drawn k vs p ending.

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>the German Internet Chess Server had Atomic in 1995.
>The ICC had Atomic in 2000.
>Lichess implemented Atomic in 2015.
>Chess.com implemented Atomic in 2020.

>>97357270
Too many forced lines in the opening. It's fun to play only against very low rated players.

>>97343081
>>97343211
wd anon. Flank hits are fundemental attacks and practicing them is good form.
While not as common try queenside flank puzzles as well since it's rediculously easy to catch some mistakes on the weak flank pawn.
>>97343525
Black ELO 240 confirmed
>>97344815
>>97344396
I'm hovering around 800 ELO and constantly fucking up discorved check attacks where the engine goes BRILLIANT MOVE HOLY FUCK, and I somehow follow up with lobotomy-grade continuations. It's the nerves, it's the timer, it's knowing that one fuck up is all it takes so you look for the safer play.
>>97348722
Double Fia makes sense for black against an English Opening does it not?

>>97360345
>does it not?
Maybe someone can manage, I'd get rekt for sure.

God I love Fisherandom.

>>97362815
We all do, but wtf is this shit? https://www.fide.com/the-first-official-fide-freestyle-chess-world-championship-to-be-hosted-in-weissenhaus/

>>97362893
I bet FIDE kikes were terrified about the weird German thing kinda gaining some momentum and wanted to make sure they keep control

does the CIA still recruit chess players?

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>>97360345
Thanks anon, I was wondering if this liver move develops bad habits and whether I should get rid of it. Analysis says it's fine though.
I just googled it now and realized that originally you were supposed to mate with the queen, and not just fork with the knight. I'm sure I saw it somewhere before but I've arrived at it independently, more or less. Neat.

>>97364302
The Cold War is over, so no.

>>97367099
>implying

>>97364302
No, thankfully they screen for that now. None of them make it past the initial recruitment stage.

>>97367339
They don't hire autistics? damn

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place your bet

>>97369770
anish or vincent win, hans middle of the field somewhere

>>97369770
Erigaisi > Keymer > Giri > Erdogmus

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>>97341642

Can someone here explain why every player at lichess that loses a game refuses to resign? Instead, they wait for the clock to run out; why? Is this part of chess culture now?

And then, if they lose, they ask for a rematch. But if you ask for a rematch, very rarely do they agree. WTF is their fucking problem? Goddamn passive aggressive faggots.

>>97374646
Gentlemen are rare online.

>>97356660
>no Kosteniuk first
anon...

Puzzles Championship live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOLpSqwJPZo

>>97374646
it what happens when Chess is exposed to non-western nations

no class

>>97374646
Report them.

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>DID YOU JUST IMPLY SOMEONE WITH A 100 ACCURACY WAS CHEATING IN CHAT??? THAT’S NOT A HECKIN KINDNESS!!!!! SHADOW MUTE!!! WE’LL SEE HOW YOU LIKE TALKING TO A WALL, CHUD!!!!
>DID YOU JUST MAKE A SECOND ACCOUNT WHILE SHADOWMUTED OF WHICH WE GAVE NO NOTIFICATION!!! THAT’S CIRCUMVENTING OUR AUTHORITY!!!!! BAN BAN BAN!!!!!
>DID YOU JUST CREATE A THIRD ACCOUNT IN YOUR ENTIRE HISTORY OF USING LICHESS??? WE STRICTLY FORBID MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A CHEEKY ALR ACCOUNT AS LONG AS WE DIDN’T SHADOWMUTE YOU FIRST!!!! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR!!!! BAN BAN BAN!!!!!!!

Are there any good Chesstubers that aren't GothamChess? He's so conceited that he pisses me off.

>>97384424
Tons of them, but what do you want?

If you want some random recs, then Daniel King (for high level game review), Andras Toth (for bombastic coaching kind of advice but less conceited), Daniel Naroditsky (RIP) for educational stomping on lower rated players but in a nice way, and the Aman Hambleton half of Chessbrah for same at a much lower level (Building Habits series especially if you're new.)


Chess Dojo is good for like "chess talk radio" stuff as long as they aren't interviewing people (I think they suck as interviewers, but if it's just the three of them chatting it's fun to listen to) and the absolute best if you want computer-free real time slow analysis of stuff like the candidates tournament, especially as a lot of the "official" coverages has gotten worse, these guy have become my favorite thing to watch to understand wtf just happened in the big tournaments when they actually cover them (just Candidates and World Championship usually).

Those are some personal favorites, but there are a lot of people out there, and I'd put GothamChess as like my 3rd? least favorite. Maybe not that bad, because like I said there's a lot, but I don't remember all the crap.

Also, be aware that Pegasus Chess is a cheater/scam artist who is just making stuff up for clickbait and doesn't actually know what he's talking about, so stay away from those.

>>97384509
Thanks for the recs.

I think Danya's videos/streams are exactly what I'm looking for, but he's no longer with us sadly. I'm a newer player, hovering around 500, so that kind of "this is what beginners usually play, this is what you should be playing, this is how you punish these mistakes" are very valuable to me. But for the future I think I'll check out Andras Toth and Chess Dojo.

>>97384580

For now, I'd recommend two other things:

John Bartholomew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao9iOeK_jvU

John might be a bit too chill for some people, but I can't imagine anyone calling him conceited, and he's very educational.


Chess Brah's building habits: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8N8j2e7RpPnpqbISqi1SJ9_wrnNU3rEm

There are also edited shorter versions out there, and kind of the same type of content but focussed on specific openings from him if you like them.

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/ourgirl/ is there too

>>97385845
There are protests at the venue, I hope she's ok.

>>97384424
I never see him rec'd but for me Remote Chess Academy is the GOAT. I gained 200 ELO just by following his tips.

Tata Steel finally started:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kMU5MP-AtQ
https://lichess.org/broadcast/tata-steel-chess-2026--masters/round-1/FRGTkE8Z#boards

>>97386333
i didn't know that her farts contribute that much to global warming...

>>97386892
Sindarov almost won a winning position, just like me

best game today: https://lichess.org/broadcast/tata-steel-chess-2026--challengers/round-1/ZVNLsNSS/0uaJzhsn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDB6ZO490vA
Tina a cutie

>>97364980
Liver rook takes are good unless you've got something else available. Generally if I could get a check in a move or two I would hold the knight but without the foresight to follow up you're just missing out on a free rook. Under 1000 elo I'd say take the rook unless you're happy to choke a game while you learn more. Oddly, puzzles can be good for this kind of thing as well.
Looking at it (god I wish we could pause these) you could have also checked with Bf7 then moved your queen up but black would likely have taken Qxh8 and recovered material without a solid follow through. It's hard knowing how good your opponent can see into the future.
>>97374646
>lichess
>full of classless faggots
>must be the Russians again
Funny, I don't see this happen on chess.com. I wonder if there's a demographic divide.

>>97386892
round 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqbUg27Hnog

>>97394025
I wish I had 1/4 of their enthusiasm for chess.

>>97394025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DikSSy6la4

>>97398597
i didn't know mia khalifa played chess...

>>97398597
RIP Anna-Maja's beautiful arm hair. Just proves that even smart women can be dumb.

>>97398994
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iunUKjvCI0w

I found the video where it happened. That fucking idiot.

>>97399151
damn, nice find

chess sucks too many draws. White has too big of an advantage over black. Shogi is superior

>>97394025
Round 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ36IOcq5Gg

Has anyone ever attempted a version of chess that uses IGOUGO instead of alternating activation? Like each player would take one move with each of their pieces per turn. Might demand some ground-floor modifications like enlarging the board and/or multiplying or reducing the number of pieces per player, etc.

>>97400979
I looks like white will always win.

>>97400127
>too many draws
This was partially solved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess960
>White has too big of an advantage over black
This is still an issue. I've no idea how to solve this.
>Shogi is superior
No.

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>>97401048
>This is still an issue. I've no idea how to solve this.

I've been getting much more frequent chat requests on chat.com lately. Is there a reason for that? Some change in the app perhaps? Anyway, the function sucks on desktop. Is there a userscript to improve it? I'd like to autoaccept chat requests and have a timestamp for each message. Maybe even have an audio cue.

>>97401730
Tell them to use discord, you can even share the screen with the game.

>>97401769
>Tell them to use discord
I'd rather kill myself

>>97400127
>chess sucks too many draws. White has too big of an advantage over black.
The advantage at anything below 1400 ELO is about 5%. Once you get to master level then you have a valid gripe because it's something like 40-20-20 white win, draw, black win. You are not at this level though.

>>97401816
!! BRILLIANT MOVE !!

>>97401100
Cute af. It's even protected by a knight. Some positions on Chess960 have unprotected pawns, which is annoying. I'd add one more square though (alpha5?) to allow for the two steps forward and en passant shenanigans.

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this is now a dark hair thread

People are even desperately cheating in lichess anon and you people think online chess is still a thing.
LOL.

>>97384580
chessnetwork jerry's beginner to chess master playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSA9se6t82I&list=PLQsLDm9Rq9bHKEBnElquF8GuWkI1EJ8Zp

>>97400953
Round 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6KNRPACftA

>>97407331
>vertical
wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k9OVPj0QyA

>>97385845
>zero points in 4 games
:(

>>97401939
What’s the other 20%

>>97405243
There are online tournaments with prize money, those are ok, everything else is kind of irrelevant.

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get the new book by Vishy

>>97407384
Round 5:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX7YbiBnpy0

It's just a game for cunts. Think you are smart for memorising a bunch of moves but can't create anything new.

>>97414418
Go Faustino!

>>97416614
Too bad that he can't get a GM norm out of this, because he needs one from an open tournament with the Swiss-system.

>>97401048
BBRNNQKR has 0.00 centipawns advantage for white according to that wiki page. So you can just use that instead of the standard position.

Anyone like the Geller Gambit? It feels like a cheap gambit, but unlike other gambits is slightly feared at GM level as a surprise weapon. What makes it more appealing is the Slav is so hard to get any kind of attack against by playing the "proper" way, while the Geller is a riot and there's no "outgrowing" it.

>>97409501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-2JDZkcU44

Think I have a game for Levy's "this is what minus elo looks like" series. I'm black here - opening is fine for my level, but from move 47 onwards... holy mother fuck. 2 seconds increment so it's not like it was a severe time scramble. -6.7 was the evaluation at that point, it even goes up to -9 at one point, what a fucking disaster.

https://lichess.org/sejzML1D

>coroner rules naroditskys death cardiac arrest by substance abuse
vlad haters on suicide watch

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The captcha is trying to teach you how to play chess. The pattern in the picture shows which squares the queen attacks (or guards) when it stands on a corner of a king's field, adjacent to the attacked king. If the queen itself is defended, and the other two squares are covered, it's mate. Elementary chess puzzles are meant to get solvers to start seeing these patterns.

>>97424238
>substance abuse
There wasn't any doubt about this since the day he died.

>>97414418
Round 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE0jcKYa_Cc

I just had the most humiliating loss ever. My opponent played random, retarded and confusing moves and then beat me on time.
https://lichess.org/mOUj9nAj/black
according to Stockfish, there was a forced mate for me at the end of the game but, during the game, I couldn't spot it and play it due to time trouble

>>97426801
My boy Vincent scored big today. Tomorrow he gets Abdusattorov with white, let's go!

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Getting back into chess for the first time since high school, Nd7 into my Rook trap felt like a stupid, risky move, but worked out, can't expect better people to fall for it at better ratings, whadda you guys think?

>>97430100
You better try Backgammon.

I get all the pieces of chess but why bishop? they don't belong on the battlefield!

>>97430874
It's the ancient elephant (alfil). The anglo mistook the tusks represented in the ancient pieces for a bishop mitre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfil

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>>97430874
>au contrair
Google "medieval warrior bishop"
https://www.medievalists.net/2024/01/five-warrior-bishops-middle-ages/

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>>97341642
wanted to share this because I honestly impressed myself with this win

>>97426801
round 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CSvvPbEv08

>>97428375
>I just had the most humiliating loss ever.
Gukesh....

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good sign from the training warmup game

Capablanca greatly annoys me because his name isn't Casablanca.

>>97433751
>why isn't a chess player from 1888 named after a mediocre 1942 movie about World War II
what an intellectually stunted issue.
Capablanca means white-cape, casablanca means white-house.

>>97430874
the bishops originated as the elephant pieces in ancient chess, which were the most useless pieces on the board. An alfil could only jump 2 diagonal, which results in only ever having 8 legal positions on the battlefield of the 64 squares.
By jumping 2, it is impossible for any of the 4 elephants to ever capture any other elephants (white elephants may only exist on rank 1/3/5/7 while the black only on 8/6/4/2, hence never touching)

When war elephants died off, they were changed to bishops, and it was satirized that "the roundheads" were always in conspiracy against normal humans, and thus no priest would harm another priest, the roundheads would only conspire to harm non-priest pieces.

>>97433904
>he only knows the movie and not the single most historically relevant city in Morocco
NGMI

>>97433969
>he thinks morocco has ever been historically relevant
HAH. I daresay, goodsir, HAH.

>already world #1 duck rated, each game I win nothing changes
JESUS WEPT, FOR THERE WERE NO MORE WORLDS TO CONQUER

they are streaming the Crazyhouse World Championship: https://www.twitch.tv/visualdennis

>>97435138
>https://www.twitch.tv/visualdennis
nice, I can't stand bughouse since it's entirely just shitty bullet and waiting when ahead on the clock, but crazyhouse is kinda cool.

>>97435138
also, poor variant players, 225 prize fund for 60 games. If it's like 70-30 for winner that'd be less than 3 euro a game for the world champ.

I don't know how to fucking checkmate. I am a 100 ranked player, i just beat my coach magnus in the chess app by taking all his peices but i can't understand how the king can just take my peices when i get them close to it. I had my rook and bishop boxing him into the corner, my pawn transformed into a queen and i still failed to capture his king and single pawn.

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>>97435825
Do a lot of mating puzzles:
https://lichess.org/training/mate
learn how to draw arrows and highlight squares controlled by your pieces

https://support.chess.com/en/articles/8568781-how-can-i-draw-arrows-on-the-board-like-streamers-do

>>97433924
not to mention... jumping?! who ever thought it was a good idea to make an elephant piece jump? At least it makes sense with a horse. (Alternate rules in the chaturanga variant that spread to southeast Asia make more sense, one square diagonally and one square forward, like the legs and trunk of an actual elephant.)

>>97436094
it can also help to say "ok if he takes, then I take, take take take" under your breath

was thinking over the idea of making dnd classes as a chess pieces

>barbarian: rook that can leap (it's supposed to be an unstoppable force)
>bard: moves as a king but can only capture or be captured by a queen (horny bard meme)
>cleric: bishop that can perform a 0,0 move where it sacrifices itself and replaces itself with a captured ally piece (resurrection)
>druid: swaps between knight and bishop when it moves (wild shape)
>fighter: knight that can capture or move twice in any combination (action surge)
>monk: Bishop that can move twice then capture once (fast movement)
>paladin: knight but allies in ±1,0 and 0,±1 can't be captured (crucifex-shaped aura of protection)
>ranger: Knight that can move 0,0 to mark a capturable piece. On a later turn it can hop to that piece's space and capture it (hunter's mark)
>rogue: pawn, but cn swap places with an ally to the left or right when captured (bait and switch)
>sorcerer: *something something king something something*
>warlock: ???
>wizard: ??? *something something wazir something something*

>Um why am I banned? I will click appeal my ban and see what I did wr—
>DID YOU CREATE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS? YOU WERE EXPLICITLY TOLD WHEN YOU WERE CREATING AN ACCOUNT THAT YOU ARE NOT TO CREATE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPEAL YOUR BAN, PLEASE CONFIRM THAT YOU DID NOT CREATE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS. OTHERWISE, YOUR APPEAL WILL BE REJECTED. WE DO NOT ALLOW MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS IN THIS WORLD OR THE NEXT. YOU ARE PERSONA NON GRATA WITH THIS WEBSITE FOR AS LONG AS YOU LIVE BECAUSE YOU MADE MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS.
>Oh… o…k….

>>97433014
Round 8:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuuUmc6qI6g

You can’t convince me that this isn’t literally a Bobby Fischer game
https://lichess.org/broadcast/tata-steel-chess-2026--masters/round-4/TU7qC17C/0gJOyyep

>>97425081
This stuff has been unearthing some strange pattern recognition within me. I feel like I know some of these shapes. I'm pretty sure that one is something more, a glider or something. Or it could be OLL on a rubik's cube. It's the dovetail mate as well, yes.

>>97438032
Since when are multiple accounts banned? plenty of players like Hikaru do smurfing climbing runs as content.

>>97439928
he asks for permission and they return points after he's done and close the account.

>>97436511
>take, take take take
Stay positional you fools.

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>>97440721
>stay positional you fools
Sir, yes sir, captain sir. We don't go for gambiting here, we leave that to the dandys.

>>97436094
Ive played like 30 games in the last 2 days, im now starting to dominate the board by taking all their peices but i srill can't checkmate

https://link.chess.com/play/ZGh1CO

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Holy SHIT
This was the most intense game/endgame of my life. I won with 0.2 seconds on the clock with premoves, 10 minute no bonus.

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Is this good?

>>97441481
That’s funny, I won with 0.1 yesterday while I was trying to mate. My retarded Never Resign opponent had been trying to flag me the whole game and I almost tilted out of my mind, in the end he was the one who flagged
>>97441514
Yes, it’s checkmate

>>97439928
He’s talking about lichess, you can create as many accounts as you want on chess.com. Lichess is basically a police state but not in a good way, because they don’t ban cheats, they just ban people for calling people cheats or multiple accounts or other trivial things.

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What are they feeding these kids in Uzbekistan

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>Still not banned for abuse by chess.com for calling brownoids subhumans and telling multiple people to kill themselves irl
>Don’t want to keep playing on a doomed account but also don’t want to make a new one

Just ban me already

>>97442248
>too weak willed to quit playing without being banned
kwab

>>97442288
I never said I want to quit playing, I just don’t want to waste my time grinding on an account that’s going to get banned. But I also don’t want to create a new account because everyone aborts against them and thinks they’re cheating

>>97438749
Recap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aevz0NmfSos

>>97341642

Ludus Latrunculorum
https://youtube.com/shorts/WCMCReY7b6M?juXLaP7D_BUxihw5

Imagine a 3 on 3 chess game, with a special table size board that also contains geographical obstacles

>>97442341
>wants to get banned
>doesn't want to make a new account
>wants to keep playing after being banned
You're such a fag lmao

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white to play. at first I thought the answer was the pawn (red arrow) but then bishop (blue arrow) was better but it is not. can you help me, please?

>>97447356
Take the pawn, but black should win anyway.

>when streamer hides rating display thinking people won't know they're 300 ELO
We always Know. And immediately block your stream.

>>97438749
Round 9:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJaK9MthDA0

>>97440889
>blocks d6 40 times
What a faggot

How much longer until AI completely solves chess? And I don't mean "reliably wins against people", I mean "wins 100% if playing as white against another AI" level of solved.

Or is it more likely that it's easier for AI to always force a stalemate?

>>97451585
yeah clearly the best play is to randomly place things in meaningless spots for variety, not to put a duck in middle preventing proper development of 2 bishops, a pawn, a queen and 1-2 knights using a single duck. I can tell you're a real smart person, one day you might even be top 100 in duck.

>>97451610
in 2 weeks

>>97451610
always draw, definitely. If you look at computer chess tournaments over the last fifty years, the trend is obvious. It is what killed the traditional WCCC (even games, single game per match), and the TCEC that replaced it has had to introduce unbalanced openings (as much as a full pawn advantage out of book) and more games just to overcome the draw hump. Even so, the TCEC superfinal has to have over a hundred games just to get a statistically meaningful result. They've done a good job to bring the number of draws down to only 50% of the results.

>>97451610
If for AI you mean stuff like ChatGPT then several years, if not decades.
Stockfish can't lose as white from the standard position given enough time and hardware. During the last TCEC season, it lost game 84 as white from a weird opening (KGD, Falkbeer, Nimzovich variation), but the other engine did the same.
https://tcec-chess.com/#div=sf&game=84&season=28

>>97451610
the reason the question is an incredibly stupid one, is it could be that for a 5000 ELO computer white wins 99% of the time but for a 6000 ELO computer it's a draw 100% of the time, and when it's finally solved by a trillion dollar super-computer playing at 50,000 ELO white wins 100% of the time, but none of those things have any relevance to chess as a game.

Humans would not be capable of playing 100 terabytes of book move trees covering 50 quadrillion possible branches, so the computers answer would have zero relevance to human play.

And even if a human were to get a computer brain implant, their own mini-computer playing at 6000 ELO would be too weak to play like that trillion dollar super-computer algorithm so instead of white always winning, your brain-computer would again be stuck at 100% drawing level if that's the peak for 6000 ELO computer power.

It's an entirely pointless question. The more important questions are human-questions, like how much would a company need to spend to get chess to switch to a superior 3.0 ruleset which removes the stalemate draw rule entirely so that chess stops being a drawn game? Answering those kind of questions would improve the game, unlike pointless computer chess.

>>97451995
It's an interesting question. If you did an abstract comparison to "How much can a human being ever lift" vs "how much can an optimized robot lift", obviously no one is ever going to think that a person can lift more. No one is debating whether or not a trillion dollar supercomputer can ever lose against a person in chess. The question is more of a "At the highest level imaginable with two perfectly equal opponents, is chess basically just tic tac toe and always a draw game?", to which the answer is very likely to be "Yes". Going first or second in tic tac toe does not matter as if you do every move correctly, it will always result in a draw. Even if humans can never operate at that level for chess, knowing that it is always fundamentally a draw game if played properly removes a lot of the magic for some people and makes it seem fake and gay as far as a "game" is concerned.

>>97452067
Wrong, you're simply fucking retarded.
It's exactly the same as comparing a human power lifter versus a 50,000 LB forklift in a strength competition.

"Oh, a forklift CAN lift 50,000 lbs, I guess we should stop Powerlifting"

Humans have exactly zero reason to care what the brute force solution of chess is if it requires 10 trillion times more operating power than the human brain has.
If a current GM winrate is 35% wins, 50% draws, 15% losses, and tomorrow we find out at 100,000 ELO chess is a draw, GM winrates will still be 35% wins, 50% draws, 15% losses. The answer itself does not tell anyone any information. It does not tell you how to change your play, or why to change your play, or have any effect on humanity whatsoever.

It's like declaring basketball a pointless solved game because with perfect play, whatever team has first possession could lob the ball straight vertically up into the hoop instantly with 100.0% accuracy. Does that resemble human play? No. Does it have any relevance to humann play? No. Could a human pull it off? No.

But you're such a stupid fucking retard you think it'd be some grand meaningful thing.

>>97452144
>The answer itself does not tell anyone any information. It does not tell you how to change your play, or why to change your play,
not him but computers changed chess openings
and we know more about endgames thanks to tablebases
chess compositions improve a lot thanks to 7 men tablebases
that said most chessplayers are really lazy so most of them just ignore that kind of stuff

>>97452144
>muh human spirit
All the best chess players are just deeply autistic and basically biological computers that have memorized more than their opponents. If we know chess is solved and how, they will 100% gain insight from the most popular opens and 7 men (and soon 10 men) databases.

>>97453596
>soon 10 men
We are stuck at 8.

>>97450406
Round 10:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNpQsQogtWo

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https://lichess.org/RTuhrXor
>tfw you intentionally play so badly anonymously that you get quick matched against hopeless fish

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56 year old Ukrainian man DESTROYS 15 year old American boy
https://lichess.org/broadcast/tata-steel-chess-2026--challengers/round-10/AAORwjO7/fTlERyOB

>>97458390
A legend.

>>97459594
He got a smothered mate in round 6 too
https://lichess.org/broadcast/tata-steel-chess-2026--challengers/round-6/51cViUfg/5sT1proP

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>3 rounds to go
This is going to tie-breaks.

>>97460328
They stole your idea for the vg chess general wtf

>>97460862
based

Watch Chuck playing Bughouse, it's highly instructive if you don't know how this variant works: https://www.twitch.tv/chuckmoulton

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Why did this get deleted?

>>97399151
Holy shit, what a turd. Why didn't she just find a guy who likes hairy girls instead. She's really cute.

>>97462255
based

>>97462255
Supposedly it’s off topic? it literally says tg and chess and has a picture of a chess player. Can you explain how that’s off topic?

>>97462612
Don't worry, it'll be used eventually.

>>97452306
>most chessplayers are really lazy
Pro players use advanced tools, but spend an insane amount of time with them, normal people don't have to, because it's just a game. It all adds up nicely I think.

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Really liking this new feature on licheats that shows the full idea’s worth of multiple moves instead of just the one move arrow

>>97462939
They can't stop improving. Amazing.

>>97450354
>block your stream
Don't be rude, he's trying his best.

>>97451610
even if it were solvable in pure theory, its impossible to calculate or compute. solvable essentially means having a massive unbeatable 'gambit' planned out before the game even begins. but the number of 'book moves' that in that gambit would be similar to the number of atoms in the observable universe. even for computers thats incomprehensibly large.

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I dont have the memory for memorizing openings so I rely on systems.
I use an Indian/Alekhine system for black and a Jobava London system for white.
Recommend me some other systems for black and white I can use to expand my repertoire.

>>97342065
When I first started getting into chess I would watch his videos and I got tired of him really quick.
Between being a Carlsen dick sucker and an ugly repulsive jew Ibhad my fill pretty quick.

>>97464662
im a die hard englund gambiter, fs ur whole system up

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>>97341642
been learning new lines by forcing stockfish to play my favorite (sub optimal) openings. i play replies i commonly see my opponents make and watch what it does. pretty humbling to see how quickly it can thrash me when given an aggressive opening to work with.

hello chess who’s the strongest player here?

>>97460862
>old man beats up women and children
a hero, just like me!

>>97465649
winrate and ELO-wise, the duckman

>>97467027
It’s kind’a gross when you post about yo’self like that.

>>97467027
You’re literally disgusting.

>>97456952
Round 11:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg2iT5C-Ob4

Can Ergodmus still win the tournament?

>>97468855
Technically yes, in practice he needs a miracle.

>>97468855
>>97468864
lmao we jinxed him

>>97447356
E2 to D2

whats everyones elo atm?

>>97470662
Embarrassingly low.

>>97470662
>Ladder anxiety
I haven't played rapid consistently enough to maintain a rating in well over a year.

I have a lot of ladder anxiety, too, so I'm only getting back into it very slowly, but I have a provisional rating of 2062 Lirapid atm, every win makes me more and more nervous and I'm just as uncertain as lichess of what my rating should actually be, also adding to the nerves...

>>97470662
140

>>97468748
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g22c67r-O_w

>>97471870
>long sleeves
>probably has nothing anymore anyway

Dog shit game

>>97472346
git good

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I FUCKED UP A TRAXLOR
AND STILL WON
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>97470662
498, about to break 500
I wish this win would have broken my 500 cherry...

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Ladies and gentlemen, I have reached 500 Elo with my game having a brilliant move. I couldn't ask for more.

>>97470662
Chess.com - 737 Rapid and 1089 Daily. My highest on Rapid was 806 but I've been struggling to reach those dizzying heights again ever since my fall a month ago.

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/vg/ apparently doesn’t know that you’re supposed to respond when ppl post their games, maybe you guys won’t ignore me
I really like these positions after getting the clamp on e5. The engine always wants you to trade bishops on d6, I wait until black trades to get the f4 pawn and support it with g3. Intermediate players have no idea how to play against structures like this, they can’t break free. Similarly they can never figure out what to do against 6th rank Sicilians (pawns on e6 d6 a6) because they’re just staring at a block of black ice.
So most of the time you can just suffocate them. In this game though, my opponent tried his best to break out without knowing how and ended up losing his knight. The game then became very sharp, which you need to be prepared for as well, because when these positions do break up, it becomes a fight for mate on the kingside. Fortunately, I am always extremely accurate in tactical games and am only a positional player as a larp. So little do they know it’s out of the frying pan…

https://lichess.org/dKsQI02i/white

>>97474719
You have good instincts if you’re already counterattacking at 500 instead of just retreating. You should always be fighting for the initiative

>>97475762
Oh and it’s lichess anon because I don’t play on my rated com account when I’m out and about and just bullshitting on my phone. Jsyk

reddit found Jeffrey Epstein’s cheat chess.com account lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/1qs1zzv/jeffrey_epstein_chesscom_account/
It’s chess.com/member/jefferydrip12, in case reddit deletes the post

>>97475821
lmao

>>97475762
>Similarly they can never figure out what to do against 6th rank Sicilians (pawns on e6 d6 a6) because they’re just staring at a block of black ice.
Can you expand on what you mean here

>Pragg and Sindarov drew in 14 moves
Cringe

>>97468748
round 12:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzEstiC35F0

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>>97475934
Sure, I mean this sort of set up. All the way up to an intermediate level (1800 on com) white tends to struggle with figuring out how to proceed. They typically overextend while trying to induce weaknesses, just creating weakness of their own. There’s no tactical breakthrough, you have to play very positionally as white. A lot of knight and rook manuevering and only very well-timed pawn pushes.

>>97476267
No shit White has a tough time, Black is already developed and White hasn’t even moved

>>97475762
People ignore you because you write like a 600 rated player that thinks they're good.

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>>97477348
No, I don't at all actually, because I'm, you know, not. Actually, I'm proud to say I'm one of the few genuinely strong players here. :)
Meanwhile, you write like the typical embittered retard though who lashes out at the world to feel better about himself, hope that continues to work wonders for you.

>>97477523
This was Stockbitch 6 btw
https://lichess.org/5q8ubdkC/white

Apparently its rating is supposed to be 1900-2300 which I find hard to believe, but who knows.

>>97477536
No, Stockfish 6 is genuinely that strong. Hikaru started struggling around 6-7. That's a good win anon

>>97477831
Thanks. I'm sure it varies wildly, a handicapped engine can play very strangely. Usually they make poor moves in the first half of the game to give you an advantage and then turn it up in the second half, in this case it just got outclassed the whole way through which confused me.

>>97467027
>>97451925
>>97434256

Man, Vanziqx really comes off like an ass.

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A close come-from-behind victory by opponent-resignation after a few mid-game blunders (Ruy Lopez opening; just getting back into the game after a year-long hiatus).
>thoughts?
https://lichess.org/Jlw68HpB

>>97478777
Wow! Someone posting an actual CHESS game, and not some TRASH variant. Good game, anonymous fren. You played a nice tactic at the end. I was impressed when you went Rg8 instead of panicking and going Ra8. Feel free to post more games, your contribution is welcome here.

>>97477831
six seven

>>97479064
Yes that’s what he said

>>97478152
Any response from Vanziqx? I’m still hoping he’s a nice guy and there was a mistake.

>>97471870
Someone should tell her to stop waxing and shaving again, if she can even grow any forearm hair anymore. Maybe she lasered permanently.

>>97479534
Someone should tell Vanziqx to reply.

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>analyzing alternative lines
>long castle is a brilliant move
???

>>97480170
With the white king bongclouded like that it makes sense.

>>97476138
last round starts earlier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FAe9rvKSLw

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>>97476057
>Cringe
no, smart

>>97451992
>Stockfish can't lose as white from the standard position given enough time and hardware
Isn't that pretty meaningless to say? Anyone can program a chess computer that will play perfectly "given enough time and hardware" just using a minimax algorithm.

>>97462014
No they fucking didn't, I made that in the /vg/ general before it was posted here. >>>/vg/555490830

>>97480672
Impressive tournament for Jorden, congrats!

>>97480170
1. gxf5?? Re8+
|
2. Be3?? Rxe3 3. Kd2 Qxd4+ 4. Kc2 Ncb4#
2. Kd2 Qxd4+ 3. Kc2 Ncb5+ 4. Kb3 Qxd1+ {mate is certainly soon}
2. Kd3 Qxd4+ 3. Kc2 {transposes}

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It's nice to see that all the Indians got rekt :D

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Indiasisters...not like this...

>>97481774
They'll lose the Candidates and then the World Championship.

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>"world champion"
>does nothing but lose and draw
has there ever been a bigger fluke "champion" in the history of chess?

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>>97481554
Here's the game if you're curious. I'm playing Black.

1. e4 e5 2. f3 Nf6 3. d3 d5 4. exd5 Nxd5 5. d4 Nc6 6. c3 exd4 7. cxd4 Bf5 8. g4
Be6 9. a3 Qd7 10. Nc3 O-O-O 11. Nb5 Kb8 12. a4 a6 13. a5 axb5 14. a6 b6 15. Bxb5
Qd6 16. Nh3 f6 17. Qc2 Re8 18. Bxc6 Bf5+ 19. Kd2 Bxc2 20. Kxc2 Nb4+ 21. Kb1 Nxc6
22. Bf4 Qxd4 23. Ka2 Qd3 24. Rhd1 Nb4# 0-1

The alternate line I mentioned is 8...Qh4+ 9. Ke2 O-O-O!! (also works with 9. Kd2).

>>97482110 (me)
I actually hung mate in 2 here but neither of us noticed.

https://lichess.org/SwkoFCfH

i am rated 300 :^)

i think one of the most common pitfalls as to why players get stuck at lower elos is the tendency to make moves HOPING the opponent doesn't notice or respond correctly. Scholars mate and wayward queen are good examples sub 400(?). Many of the gambits that indian guy posts ("you hop the pony, he eat the candy" etc) are also atrocious examples.

Even at 1200 im guilty of this when i play guioco piano, because its uncommon to see the correct response at my current elo. But if i hope to improve I have to be expect my opponents (above 1300) will know it.

Stockfish (and advanced players) will never underestimate their opponent and always assumes every threat is perfectly visible to both players. This what rigorous play looks like.

This is all mainly with rapid + in mind, you can probably get away with a little more in bullet/blitz. But 'know the rules' before you break them.

https://lichess.org/1MQ55hdm
who dares to challenge me

Wow this place is really booming tonight, post another challenge!
>>97482775

>>97479289
What happened to him? He was posting frequently until a day ago.

>>97483233
not him

https://lichess.org/UVG1f2P7

https://lichess.org/h5YYLcF1

>>97483255
My browser blocked the game after I clicked the link. Repost it if you can.

>>97482775
new link:
https://lichess.org/?variant=standard&minutesPerSide=10.0&gameMode=casual&increment=5&user=rmutt17#friend

https://lichess.org/@/StockfishNews/blog/stockfish-18-is-here/vztqTa71

>>97483480
good game rmutt post more games this place is happening

hey what happened to the duck poster? did he ever confess to making a mistake or hes hiding still

>>97483661
gg you played well friend

>>97483776
Thanks next time I’ll get you haha happy tg browsing

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>>97483661
heres our game if anyones interested

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>>97483776
heres our game if anyones interested

Anyone drinking any playing tonight?

>>97483851
yeah that ones a little embarrassing...
did you premove qa5 expecting kd3 at the start?
thoughts on kf3 in response to scandinavian?

>>97483942
I was just playing nonsense. Pretty sure you were hiding your true power level too.

is the vanigx gone for good

Vidit is for sure the cutest indian player

>>97484317
Don’t know about that, but def not prag

>>97484311
He used to post multiple times a day until just recently.

>>97482060
Ding Liren. But we dodged a bullet really. Imagine if the world champion was a prick like Hikaru or Nepo...

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>>97485830
Imagine if some cute chess daddy with rizz had the title...
No one ever talks about Anish like it could be him, but he has been top 10 for forever why can't he be a good candidate?

Why is Chess segregated? Are women really dumber than men that they need to have their own division? I want to see some Chess cuties fighting their way up alongside everyone else, not just amongst themselves.

>>97486689
>Literally no one at all:
>Anon: Are women really dumber than men that they need to have their own division?
So first of all, ESL. Secondly, there is no question that women can be very strong club players, so most women don't need another division, it's really only needed at the highest levels.
But imagine just wanting to go play some fun chess games and socialize on a sunday evening, and half the people at the club are some uscf 1500 who thinks women are retards and scares all the hoes away.
Women don't *want* to compete with men, because you're a bunch of fragile spergs.

>>97486689
>Are women really dumber than men that they need to have their own division?
The answer is yes although there are some exceptions to the rule, women generally can't compete on the same level as men when it comes to Chess.

>>97486689
Why else do you think the Elo requirement to become a Woman Grandmaster is several hundred points lower than it is to become just a Grandmaster?

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lmao
I have an anime profile pic for context.

>>97486795
>Women don't *want* to compete with men
is it really that simple? its a thorny issue, and im not convinced that being a 100% in support of the segregation is even a feminist stance.
>imagine just wanting to go play some fun chess games and socialize on a sunday evening [...]
im confused are you suggesting they segregate clubs as well? theres barely any chess clubs where i live, let alone female only ones

i met a girl at party the other weekend asked if i thought men are better at chess. something about how she phrased it gave me the impression she was looking for a fight, which i didnt feel like having. i mentioned the gender division in competitive chess, how its a bit fucked that it exists at all, but it ultimately levels the playing field for woman who, have been gate kept from playing chess for generations and playing catch up. its designed to make it more accessible for them, but on the other hand surely some woman find the segregation a little demeaning.

what i forgot to mention is that boys are more likely to be encouraged into chess, receive mentorship, face other boys, etc. by the time you're competing at the top 0.001% these advantages are magnified.

all that being said there probably is some truth to girl = left brain good, boy = right brain good. plenty of outliers to this, but it compounds with the cultural stuff.

>>97489047
Do you show a flag? I put Israel and get some funny reactions.

>>97489485
I have the USA flag and my opponent was from Mexico...

>>97489521
Oh nice one, is there an ice cube flair? That’d be so bad lol

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>>97479050
Thanks; here's another:
https://lichess.org/KF9bdfhE

>>97481642
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNmhQy5VLaY

>>97489246
No, clubs are not typically segregated.
Also it's not exactly accurate to call it segregation.
Most women with a mid/low rating are playing in small open tournaments like anyone else with a casual uscf/fide rating. Women's only tournaments are designed to make chess tournaments more inviting and accessible to women, and importantly there is no "mens" division, just an open one.

What I was saying is attitudes like the one I was replying to that presume female inferiority are a big vibe killer, and explains why women with the opportunity wouldn't want to play with men or why women might not like showing up to chess club, outside of wider culture pushing women towards other interests.

>>97485969
He is one of the favourites.

>>97493034
Anna Cramling will play in the Menorca open like the good girl she is.

>>97497585
her first name sounds like anal

>>97489485
>flag? I put Israel
>>97489047
>anime profile pic
You guys are weird.

>>97498309
>flag
mine is the Vatican
lots of players think its legit
i bless them over chat

>>97498341
can you bless me? been having a rough week