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>fantasy and or medieval setting
>Must insist upon and have every single female dress like dehumanized sex objects with their breasts out
>be a different medieval fantasy setting bit supposedly """realistic"""
>Have a totally realistic female character looking like a modern current day super model/porn start with modern day make up
Why must the fantasy always insist and force every single member of the female gender be blow-up dolls and porn stars? Do fantasy nerds really? DO MEN REALLY!?
Also you all do realize having and forcing these types of """conventionally attractive females"""" in a archaic barbaric society where human rights and our superior laws do not exist, just means such "sexy babes" are just going to be brutally raped. You all know that right!? You know the peasants want a woman that looks like a magazine model to be killed because said woman looks like the very oppressive dictators that rule over them right?
Gee, maybe there IS a reason why fantasy seems to be male dominated and women are hesitant and afraid to be fantasy fans too.
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>>97448456
If I'm not mistaken, this is in reference to some twitter drama where one medieval fantasy game pissed off people by saying they wouldn't put gay brownoids in their game. So this is not even /tg/ adjacent and OP is an enormous retard.
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>>97448477
No no. This is related to fantasy and fantasy nerds as a wholem
As in this blatant insistance that every female HAS be this gorgeous super model with their tits hanging out. And that any female who isn't conventionally attractive or is actually fully well dressed and not only wearing a bra and panty is somehow "woke agenda!"
Yes I am complaining about the forced and insisted sexualization in every single form of fantasy and that not making every single woman a Victoria's Secret model is somehow bad and it means you must be gay or whatever.
And don't you fucking dare say to me "women like seeing characters be wearing nothing but a bra and panties"
FUCK YOU and your anti-woke talking points! Has it ever occurred to "fantasy nerds and fans" NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SEXUALIZED AND THAT WOMEN WHO AREN'T PRETTY DO EXIST??
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Rape is a very common fetish for women, why kink shame them?
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>Rape is a very common fetish for women
OH BOY HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! NO!!! Normal healthy sane women DO NOT HAVE SO CALLED "SEXUAL ASSAULT RAPE FETISHES!!!" NORMAL HEALTHY SANE WOMEN DO NO THINK LIKE THAT!
That stupid fucking "meme" and notion is nothing more but lies, libel or even propaganda by pornography and certain groups of evil men out there who hate women and would have all women; INCLUDING YOURS, to be assaulted abused and have such assault, violence and abused towards women everywhere to be normalized. "Women having rape fetishes" is a psyop by pornography to convince them to whore themselves out and normalizing and legalizing women assaulted and exploited willy nilly! You are falling for such dangerous precedence that will ultimately affect YOUR wives, daughters and mothers you just don't know it yet!
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>"But these studies and data shows women have rape fetishes and love fantasies of themselves being violently raped!"
NOT TRUE! NOT REAL! Those so called "studies, data and statistics" are one big psyop and malicious disinformation campaign spearheaded by certain groups of men and the Porn Industry targeting women to make them not only look bad. But to normalize such DISGUSTING and morally abhorrent and debasing roles and imagery that reduces women into sex object whores and as battered and manipulated victims.
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>>97448349
>with their breasts out
Amateur hour
In my dark fantasy setting all women are Free UseTM just like the Scythians except special Gloryhole War Wagons tour the land offering available holes to frustrated warriors who must frot during the winter season thoughbeit.
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>>97448349
>Do fantasy nerds really
Yes. Fantasy nerds love hot bitches, and want hot bitches in their fantasies.
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>>97448349
I know this is bait, but I'll bite anyways.
1. I feel like modern media seems to tone down the required sexiness of women. For example, how /tg/ loses their shit over an old woman paladin or fat bard in the DnD PHB.
2. Men are usually sexualized similarly, but we don't associate a half naked man as sexual, but more as manly or cool.
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>Men are usually sexualized similarly, but we don't associate a half naked man as sexual, but more as manly or cool.
Wait, you DON'T fantasize about Conan frotting his dick with yours, as a rescued slave girl rubs them together with her hands and tongue, hoping some of his load will spatter on your chest when he climaxes?
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>>97448349
kys faggot, this is now a fantasy cheesecake thread until i get bored
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>>97448581
>Normal healthy sane women DO NOT HAVE SO CALLED "SEXUAL ASSAULT RAPE FETISHES!!!
Yes, yes they do. You just never had a relationship with a woman that was intimate or deep enough to honestly discuss such things with her. All they goon to is rape, gangbangs, vampires and wealthy handsome abusers. What? You think Sixty Shades of Gray was a psyop by big porn?
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>>97448887
The woman isn't wearing a christian head cover.
Is wearing excessive make-up a symbol of whoredom and vanity.
Is wearing only underwear meaning she is either possessed, mentally ill, or a member of heretical religion.
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>>97448581
You write posts like a gayboy. What are you, gay?
That being said, I actually kinda agree with your points but from the exact opposite standpoint. Modesty is good and women shouldn't be fantasizing about being victims of violence.
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>>97448958
Look, that first anon is sort of right in a way. As in, yeah, some women don't have a rape fetish. But those women are a minority because the culture of rape fetish is too widespread. There are way more women out there who want to get "Raped" but in a sexy, cool sort of way, not in a realistic way. The women who don't have a rape fetish are outliers and are naturally shunned by other women in general because women fucking hate other women who go against the grain.
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>>97449132
>How the fuck did this make sense in your head?
Speaking from experience (lurking, /pol/, Twitter threads and hanging out in a right/conservative leaning and or politically incorrect Discord group). Communists and Revolutionaries hate pretty attractive women because it is tied to the Elites they hate and want to murder and rape, but mostly violently murder in the end of the day.
Yes I am implying OP is indeed, wokescold left leaning loser who probably does think and believe Game of Thrones and Lona RPG are an accurate and realistic depiction of pre-industrial and pre-slave abolishment society.
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>>97448581
What are you basing any of that on, anon? Also are you sure you actually know what fetishes or sexual fantasies are? Because they usually aren't things people want to happen anytime, everywhere, with anyone and in uncontrolled circumstances. Actual sexual assault and rape fantasies involving someone you find attractive and know won't actually hurt you are pretty much entirely different things.
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>>97449146
No, the real reason why those women died was that the women who killed them were jealous. Women fucking hate pretty women, they will use whatever to get them killed. When there was a "Witch" burning it was because the ugly women were getting rid of the pretty girls so their men wouldn't lose interest in them.
A woman's worst enemy is women. There's a reason why Sisterhoods aren't a thing.
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Warhammer 40k itself, Female Custodes.
>>97449159
>Women fucking hate pretty women, they will use whatever to get them killed. When there was a "Witch" burning it was because the ugly women were getting rid of the pretty girls so their men wouldn't lose interest in them.
Care to back that up with a sooorce?
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>>97449186
You haven't been in a relationship before, have you? This is just basic ass wisdom you pick up when in a relationship with a girl. They'll be fine if they're all "Equal," but if one girl looks a little too good, they start backstabbing. Like, look at all the hate Sydney Sweeney is getting from women. It's all just them being jealous that she's prettier than them and she's getting all the attention.
There's a reason why a lot of women want to be included in your hobbies. It's because she doesn't have girls whom she can count as as friends.
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>>97448349
>DO MEN REALLY
LARPing as a woman?
>such "sexy babes" are going to be brutally raped
The mask slips, only an incel chud would type this
Conclusion: OP is an annoying faggot and should stop trying to pretend to be a woman.
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>>97448349
blaah blaah no one cares
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FUCK YOU! And fuck everyone who perpetuates this toxic notion of "women enjoy rape and have fantasies of it!!!" YOU ALL ARE ONLY SAYING THIS BECAUSE 99.9999 OERCENT FOR CERTAIN YOU ALL DO NOT HAVE GIRLFRIENDS OR WIVES NOR ARE EVER MARRIED! BECAUSE WHAT TRUE LOVING MAN SAYS THIS ABOUT WOMEN!?
Personally I just originally wanted to raise awareness and maybe shame a gooner here and there that not every single female character has to be forced to be this bombshell super model just to sexualize. BUT NO! ONCE AGAIN I CAME ACROSS THIS HORRIFIC VILE "MEME" AND JOKE AND FORCED NOTION THAT WOMEN ARE "*TOTALLY DEGENERATE FREAKS WHO LOVE RAPE!" FICK UFKC YOU?!! STOP SAYING THIS!!!
How would it feel if it were YOUR woman, YOUR wife, YOUR daughter, YOUR sister, YOUR female friends to have been assaulted and then you hear and readd people saying "I much prefer "rape" to be like in hentai where the women enjoys it despite being inconvenienced by it. No matter if it's a monster, ugly bastard or whatever, she'll enjoy it even if she's married, embarassed about it or too proud to want that happening again."
All of you say this because you live good comfortable safe lives and such vile terrible acts of violence and corruption towards women never happened to YOUR woman or any females you personally know and care about.
Only when it finally happens to YOUR woman and the women in YOUR lives whome you care and love. Will you realize how awful most of you are and understand and get what I'm saying.
I swear everywhere I go! This stupid "fact" keeps getting pushed and forced everywhere! And for what!? To increase the profits and quota margins of Pornhub and OnlyFans!?
Y'all really aspiring your future daughter and women to be whored out and raped by evil men aren't you all?
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>>97448581
>Normal healthy sane women do not have rape fetishes
>normal
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So all women have rape fetishes?
Seriously though, I've literally been told in high school by a girl who had the hots for me that she wished I forced myself onto her. Men aren't inventing women having rape fetishes. Women have rape fetishes. It creeped me the hell out.
Is it good? No. Does pretending they don't have rape fetishes make them not have rape fetishes? Also no. Do women write rape fetish romance fiction for other women? Undoubtedly yes.
Women having rape fetishes isn't caused by "muh piatriarchy". It's caused by women being naturally sexually submissive, naturally desiring strong dominant men, and spicy submission is being raped. Women go full niagra falls if you can catch on to the fact they're into you, and they don't ever give consent, but you just go for it. This has been my normative experience with women.
Do I like it? No, I find it disturbing. Do they like it? Undoubtedly yes.
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Okay now go tell your neighborhood that you find rape is fun and they should let you do it instead of being "antis". Hell, go ahead and parents who love and care their daughters and happily married husbands who love their wives that their daughters, sisters and wives should and must be sexually violated and brutalized. Tell mothers and fathers that imagery of their daughters being sexually assaulted by ugly bastards is a fun and sexy fetish because muh hentai and doujins. Tell married husbands that them being cheated on or witnessing their wives being gangbanged by ugly or overly masculine dark skinned men is also good and a fun fetish because "NTR have very good stories and is the most realistic results of all relationships" and also because "NTR has excellent and sexy artwork."
And let us know how it went and what their reactions are.
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>>97449374
Okay riddle me this!
Whenever I'm told and see these "women like rape fetishes" claims. It's always the most grotesque, absurd, violent and unbelievably hideous outcomes of "being raped by ugly men and monsters and goblins, ugly black men, etc." Like- HANG ON A MINUTE! Do women actually like this bullshit!? Why specifically does it always have to include women being raped and violated by this hideous monster or that ugly fat man? The only time I will EVER find a woman liking a rape fantasy is if it were involving remotely likable and attractive men like Fifty Shades of Grey.
But no!!! These days I keep seeing le studies and muh data saying "women like sex fantasies of being gangraped by ugly old men and goblins" like shut the fuck up! What mentally unwell and unstable women did these researchers asked or interviewed? Did these data gatherers and researchers interviewed women in a mental institution!? What normal sane woman has such violent morbid fantasies!? This HAS TO BE shit made up by perverted men or members of the porn industry to try psyoping women and normalizing such thinking amongst women, basically porn-made brainrot accompanied with OnlyFans and modern day feminism. These people clearly did not interview or ask normal sane and mentally well women.
This NEVER EVER HAPPENS TO MEN! THERE ARE NEVER EVER ANY CLAIMS, JOKES, FACTS OR STUDIES OF MEN DESIRING AND FETISHIZING BEING VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED, VIOLATED AND RAPED! NEVER EVER!
SO NO! I don't believe you either and even if you are not a woman hating monster. You are unwittingly spreading the same insistent message and Propaganda by the evil men and porn industry that women for some reason yearn to be sexually abused and violently raped. Again, because Pornhub and OnlyFans need their stock shares and profit margins to go up.
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>"But these studies and data shows women have rape fetishes and love fantasies of themselves being violently raped!"
NOT TRUE! NOT REAL! Those so called "studies, data and statistics" are one big psyop and malicious disinformation campaign spearheaded by certain groups of men and the Porn Industry targeting women to make them not only look bad. But to normalize such DISGUSTING and morally abhorrent and debasing roles and imagery that reduces women into sex object whores and as battered and manipulated victims.
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>>97449374
>*rape fantasy is realistically a male centric fetish and power fantasy, made by men for men. in which men fantasize the idea of physically beating down, dominating and violating weak defenseless women.
Fixed your typo and mistake. Women never have these violent self hating and self destructive "fetishes" naturally.
Rape fetishes and rape porn is a male-made fetish and "kink" made by men, for men, for the man's pleasure at the unbelievable expense, harm and trauma towards the woman.
Literal woman hating fetish.
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Kill yourself my man.
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>>97449145
>The women who don't have a rape fetish are outliers and are naturally shunned by other women in general because women fucking hate other women who go against the grain.
This I disagree with because I don't think people generally know about each other's fetishes and don't care unless it's something really weird
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I'm beginning to regret my previous comment because I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're actually just freaking out about eromanga. It's not real and you should ignore it if it upsets you. That's all.
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>>97449402
>Riddle me this
>Literally answers his own riddle in the next paragraph.
You literally said it yourself. The fantasies that women have about being raped are different from the fantasies men have about women being raped. You already understand the difference. Why are you flying off the handle about something you already understand?
I don't know what studies you're seeing about "women like sex fantasies about being gangraped". I wouldn't rule it out, women are capable of being sexual degenerates just like men, and porn culture encourages people to become degenerate.
>THERE ARE NEVER EVER ANY CLAIMS, JOKES, FACTS OR STUDIES OF MEN DESIRING AND FETISHIZING BEING VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED, VIOLATED AND RAPED! NEVER EVER!
That's because men have different fetishes than women. Men aren't women, and you shouldn't need to be reminded of that. Men are normatively dominant, women are normatively submissive. Their fetishes will match accordingly, until they become super degenerates, in which case their proclivities flip and you get submissive males(simps) and dominant females(simp farmers).
I agree with you that the porn industry is involved in increasingly normalising sexual fetishesincreased levels of sexual fetishisation is a psyop by porn industries and such. But the fetishes don't come from nowhere - they have to parasite off of and pervert some kind of actual underlying biological sex drive to have any kind of foothold. Women have a biological sex drive to be submissive to a strong man. Their spicy sex fantasies are about being raped by strong vampire millionaires. This isn't rocket surgery and it isn't even remotely worth flying into conniptions over.
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I choose to believe this is a real meltdown because it's funny.
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>>97448349
Anon, why are you playing games that feature sexy women if you don’t like them? Can’t you just use art of normal looking girls instead?
What’s that? You don’t do that because you don’t actually play games and are just here to complain about something you haven’t actually experienced?
Oh dear…you really should get back on those meds, anon, your parents are worried sick.
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>>97449423
> I don't think people generally know about each other's fetishes
Men don't generally know about each other's fetishes, because unless you are all coomers, you keep your sensitive private shit to yourselves. But women for some reason divulge all sorts of sensitive topics to each other. They yak and yak with each other all day and so eventually they will just talk about their sexual feelings with each other and the expectation is to listen to and validate each other's sexual feelings and fantasies.
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>>97449446
The theme of the meltdown is too boring to be anything but sincere. If I were trolling on this topic, I would do something like, bring up some absurd hot button political point with intentional logical fallacies like "trans women don't have rape fetishes like cis women allegedly have so women objectively don't have rape fetishes " and go absolute maximum gigabait.
Either that, or it's a troll who has a surprisingly subtle touch and is willing to jack a subtle premise up to autistic screeching levels of commitment. But this stretches my belief - this type of trolling is too inefficient. Too much typing for not enough (You).
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>>97449454
>Men don't generally know about each other's fetishes, because unless you are all coomers, you keep your sensitive private shit to yourselves.
I talk about mine with my buddies though and I know some of theirs as well. Don't care because it doesn't get weirder than futa and transformation, if any of them were into scat and guro I would excommunicate them
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>>97449485
Haha clever gotcha my friend but I sincerely doubt you've actually ever read any fantasy aimed at women and you're just regurgitating some shitty line you heard people say on twitter.
Name 2 women's fantasy books you read and tell us why you chose to read them, and you can't use pic related.
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I assume you're baiting, but on the off chance you're not: please learn the difference between fantasy and reality. Inability to make that distinction makes you sound pretty unhinged.
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ITT people have referred to bodice ripper novels written by and for women, where male love interests are hot, and to women having fantasies involving men they personally find attractive. It's demonstrably not true that people point to hentai about ugly bastards and goblins when discussing female rape fantasies.
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>>97449518
EEEEEWWWW! Fuck that, I prefer Female Japanese Artists and Writers and Josei in general, thank you very much.
>https://nhentai.net/g/431355/
>https://nhentai.net/g/499196/
>https://nhentai.net/g/516644/
Pic related is from Umekoppe.
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ACTUAL FACTS FOR ACTUAL RETARDS: women have rape/sexual assault fetishes as a vestigial survival instinct. Women who got raped and didnt get off on it would reject or kill their offspring, while the women who internalized it reproduced GUARANTEED. Given enough time with low tech and little societal protections for women i.e. the million years we didnt have modern technology and every woman who doesnt get off to being raped will eventually die out.
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I don't think that's the be-all end-all of it, consider that in most primitive societies the society ostracises raped women no matter the woman's feelings on it
That said, too many books written by women feature the woman falling for someone who killed her family members
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>>97448349
The Left insists on lesbians, combat wheelchairs, minorities where they'd have been treated with fear and hatred.
And it's conventionally attractive women that you hate? Yeah I can totally see your bias.
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Beauty is to be cherished.
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>>97449889
I dunno, I've survived several poorly managed projects that have tanked because aesthetical concerns came before practical ones, and have been partially crippled on one of them.
I think I'm at the point where I might unironically say fuck beauty. Beauty might even be evil.
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>Beauty might even be evil
And with that, you are lost.
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I'm sorry anon, I think I might have to do something about beauty. Look at nature, it is all around us, and so stunning that you forget the astronomical amount of suffering being produced by any given patch of land. Everything's fighting and dying all the time.
There must be something better.
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stop liking evil women
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I know that people who unironically think like that do actually exist on both /v/ and /tg/, but I also know you can't actually name a single modern fantasy franchise where this is a thing because bikini armor has been dead outside of anime for like 2 decades.
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>>97449896
Nah, I'd definitely say beauty is objectively good. The issue is people having an increasingly narrow view and definition of beauty, as well as mistaking "hotness" or basic-ass appeal for beauty.
Beauty can be ugly, beauty can be brutal, beauty can be cruel, beauty can be sweet, and beauty can be venomous. But beauty is fundamentally inspiring and evocative. People have gotten too obsessed with broad and safe aesthetic appeal over something true and genuine.
Danny Devito ain't hot or broadly appealing, but damn if he ain't beautiful.
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>>97448349
As opposed to....?
What's your alternative?
I'm seriously asking what your intended goal here is.
It seems like you're asking for beautiful and exciting fantasy art with Cletus and Brandine as models.
... because peasants are commonly featured in such art?
Or for men to stop imagining attractive women?
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Oh no! Don't look op.
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>>97448349
I could argue both ways. There's nothing wrong with games trying to appeal to straight guys and a handful of bisexual tomboy types. A problem with social media is that it's hard to tell who your actual customers are and who is just causing trouble for attention. But you'd see a lot of women covering their hair and the like.
I think the filth and rape are often exaggerated outside of wars and famines and the like. One of the Saxon kings was described as enforcing law so well that a naked woman could walk between two cities without being hassled. And harlots and noblewomen and women who wanted to stand out would 100% cake on gaudy makeup. Unusually pretty peasant maids might be scooped up to be ladies in waiting and the mistresses of powerful men.
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4u, George. Does she remind you of your oft-raped friend?
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2008 called, they said you're a little too late to the Gamergate party.
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>>97448500
>And don't you fucking dare say to me "women like seeing characters be wearing nothing but a bra and panties"
women like seeing characters be wearing nothing but a bra and panties
There, what are you going to about it? No one fucking cares what women think so it's irrelevant, stop forcing yourself into male pursuits
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You are speaking from a position of temporal privilege. As a human being with Internet access in the 20th century, you are among the 1% most privileged people ever to exist. You may have had to worry about how you would afford groceries on any given week, but you've never had to worry whether food would *exist* in six months. You've never had to confront the possibility that a minor scrape might lead to.a fatal infection. You take this for granted not because you earned it, nor because you are better than anyone else, but because you had the good fortune to be born in this wra. In short, your temporal privilege is showing.
Every single modern convenience you take for granted was created by the very society of people you denigrate. Every single idea about human rights and fairness which you obsess over had to be invented by the very society of people you denigrate. You owe not inly your present comfort, but your very idea of right and wrong, real and unreal, to the ideas gestated in this society. Ever medieval European peasant contributed to the survival of the whole, in an uncertain world, to create the conditions in which everything you take for granted was made.
Be humble. Be better.
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>>97448349
You do realize that the image on the RIGHT is the less historically accurate portrayal of medieval peasants.
I mean neither is accurate, but the portrayal on the right is less accurate than the one on the left. See, medieval peasants actually did understand personal hygiene… of a sort. They would’ve believed in the miasma theory, the idea that diseases were spread from breathing in stinky air. And you of all people should know that the unwashed human body REEKS in a very short time. Now these are poor peasants so they would’ve been more incentivized to remove their BO by bathing with soap; because soap and water is cheap and effective while perfume is expensive and doesn’t always work well. Not to mention that peasants are still human, they want to look nice and feel pretty too, so they probably would, as best as their non-existent budget allows, try to gussy themselves up, and dress in… pale, but practical, imitations of what might’ve been fashionable in the noble courts of last season.
But if someone were to go full mudcore, tattered clothes, covered in dirt and shit, and smelling like they haven’t bathed in… ever. Yeah that probably would go over about as well as someone in 2020 walking around mask-off and loudly coughing in everyone’s faces.
What I’m saying is mudcore peasant would more likely whip the whole village up into an angry mob that will pelt him with soap and throw him into the nearest body of water, all out of fear that his funk will bing about the plague, and nobody wants the plague.
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>>97448349
You can tell feminism is and always will be a shallow fad for spoiled fat girls and retarded men because there's never a point of practical decision making where they actually consolidate women's rights in the real world and their focus shifts entirely to complaining about first world entertainment like RPGs and comic books and video games. Even when they get a ton of material pandering to them they don't even care and instead push to defoliate other things mentally healthy men enjoy. Absolute NPC type existence and it's why conservatives are able to outmaneuver them in IRL politics.
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>>97448581
Crack open one of those smut novels that women use as porn-in-plain-sight and you'll find most of the "toxic masculine" behaviour they claim to hate.
They don't actually hate it. They simply think only Chad should do it.
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I always thought the "babes" in fantasy art were sort of because they were the only places those artists could vent their desire to draw/paint the female form. Otherwise it's just armor and monsters and without something pretty to balance out all the range of things "fantasy" can make you feel, the art gets pretty boring.
That and afaik women like roleplaying as beautiful characters and all
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>>97458503
It's also not like fantasy art is just 100% pinup models either. There's plenty of fantasy art where there's just a random lady and nobody thinks twice about it.
Likewise with outright ugly women when you have hags or crones.
All that's really changed is that more recent fantasy art has tried to cover up and flatten female art as much as possible in order to try and get women to play, except that doesn't really work because real women don't like being represented that way either. They might not like bikini armor, but they enjoy having an attractive character wearing pretty robes.
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>>97458694
>Well really the issue is very basic: nobody actually likes being pandered to, It’s cringe.
Neckbeards were entirely happy to be catered to completely before the first basedbeards started trying to wear the hobby like a skinsuit for attention. The people currently being catered to are just colossal embarrassments. Hot babes in fantasy art are and always were fine and the right women never cared. It's people who stop existing when no one else is in the room that have been the problem.
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>>97449419
Okay, if any of you are still here and curious why this guy is acting this way? Context:
>https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/95988435/#96005306
His words, not mine.
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>>97459197
>That post
Hey rapemeat-orbiter-kun.
I want you to know she pretended to he afraid of men as an excuse to slowly freeze you out of her life and gooned herself incoherent to the memory of being raped each and every night.
After he gets out of prison you can bet your virgin ass she'll track him down for a reenactment in a dirty, nasty motel somewhere.Stay mad
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And continuing what I posted above. Assuming it has been true and real that the guy who made this thread had his dear childhood friend raped so bad she no longer mentally functions well. I suppose it is tragic that a girl was raped real bad and in the case of our anti sexy poster here, his moral crusade is a result of unresolved or long lasting trauma or guilt he has yet to recover or move on from. I'm which I guess it is understandable, I never had any woman in my life who was assaulted and all and definitely can never relate. So I am giving the benefit of the doubt this current sexy-is-bad posting is a result trauma or guilt some of us might never truly understand or comprehend because some of us never experienced it or had something similar happen to us in real life.
Now I come back to scrutinizing him:
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Seems to me the only thing that would satisfy and appease the guy is literal or outright censorship and banning. Of course that never works and if such censorship and banning does happen, you and I and all of us knows it will not stop and pornography or any images of sexy attractive women.
So I outright ask you this OP >>97448349
Are you basically saying we as a species should just ban porn? Basically make a Just Stop Oil movement, but for porn or anything people like you perceive as pornography and sexual violence and hate towards women? All because you did have one person in your life who was brutalized in such a way and you hadn't moved on from? Just so you know, it might not work the way you and similar people wish to and it will never stop at porn.
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>>97459330
Hey not him and if you think we're the same because of the ESL I can understand. I have a gut feeling the guy is ESL I'm also outside the West, I guess it does take one to know one. But unlike him, I actually do not mind and would like my fantasy places to be filled with pretty women and less HR Karens.
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Never thought of it that way often whenever topics like this happen. Other than I just assume that is a first world western problem.
>>97449574
>Japanese femoid smut good
>Western femoid slop bad
Further enlighten me people. How and why is the same type of female targeted smut good if it were written by the Nips other than "THING, JAPAN."
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>>97459376
>Hey not him and if you think we're the same because of the ESL I can understand. I have a gut feeling the guy is ESL I'm also outside the West, I guess it does take one to know one. But unlike him, I actually do not mind and would like my fantasy places to be filled with pretty women and less HR Karens.
Oh don't worry, I'm not saying you are him.
I'm just leaving a little present for him to read while he's in gay baby time out for his sperging.
Who doesn't love rattling the chimp cage now and then?
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>I would like my fantasy places to be filled with pretty women and less HR Karens
Then you are now and shall forever be my nigga anon, we're brothers in that.
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>>97448349
>Gee, maybe there IS a reason why fantasy seems to be male dominated and women are hesitant and afraid to be fantasy fans too.
Are you on crack? You really think this is a guy driven thing? Have you not looked at the author's names on these books you're complaining about? Seriously, go to a bookstore, go to the fantasy section, and read the authors' names after you're done being offended by the cover art.
Women are freaks.
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>tourist shill thread
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>>97459815
>Oh no, lunatics are doing everything they can to make the world worse!
Welcome to being an atheist. Your reward for this will be getting mocked relentlessly for not buying into the lies that justify ruining everything all the time.
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>>97460755
It actually isn't clear, because you changed the topic incoherently. You're trying to say that it's the same experience being an atheist, and noticing how destructive leftists are. Huh? Number one, that doesn't make sense. Number two, it doesn't make sense for you to say it here. Number 3, you explained that concept with two sentences of borderline gibberish.
I unironically think you probably have a mental illness. What is it? Schizophrenia?
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>>97460804
Yeah, you're obviously a schizo when your first instinct upon getting slight pushback is to start shopping around for evil categories to slot people into. You're a delusional retard, your worldview is mental illness fanfiction, and talking to you is a waste of time.
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>>97460856
Note, the delusional's immediate jump into this kind of behavior when it's pointed out his beliefs are not true.
Be it the religious, the tranny, or the conspiratorial, they all act this way when given skepticism.
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>>97460890
>Which of these groups are you in to be so offended?
>AAAH YOU'RE CRAZY I'M NOT IN ONE OF THOSE GROUPS WHICH OF THOSE GROUPS AM I IN, HUH?
Iunno, probably a tranny. Or religious. There's a reason I asked you this question.
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>>97460894
So, you have no idea what I believe in, you're just angry and searching for a reason you don't have to listen to me. Why? Because you don't like how I pointed out that you're a delusional schizophrenic. The only "belief" I have right now that's relevant to you in any way is that I believe you're a dumbass. A belief you're unable to change, because every response you've had for me so far is increasingly retarded, not less retarded.
I don't need to be a religious transexual(?) to notice how you're a gibbering moron.
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>This NEVER EVER HAPPENS TO MEN! THERE ARE NEVER EVER ANY CLAIMS, JOKES, FACTS OR STUDIES OF MEN DESIRING AND FETISHIZING BEING VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED, VIOLATED AND RAPED! NEVER EVER!
https://youtu.be/-sMQpWCNTQw
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It's an anonymous forum you delusional self-important faggot nobody here cares about your beliefs for even a single second
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>>97448349
Well, in some places in Europe. They did have some of the women who were known "whores" run around naked and do sports to show the goods during festivals. So it wouldn't be too far off to have them in more revealing outfits.
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I am disappointed and not happy at all.
You all still continue to deny what is wrong, what should be right and what is just clearly and obviously just BAD.
Why do you all still play defense and advocacy for the porn industry and the men who'd have and desire and lobby for legalizing rape and sexual violence towards your women, your daughters and sisters. ONLY AHEN IT IS YOUR WOMEN KF ANY OTHER WOMAN YOU PERSONALY CARE FOR AND KNOW GETTING ASSAULTED WIL YOUR REALIZ WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT AMD THAT I AM RIGHT ABOUT ALL THIS YOJ ARE ALL FALLING FOR THE TRICKS AND DECEPTIONS OF PORN AND EVIL MEN WHO WANT TO VICTIMIZ AND RAPE TOUR WOMEN MO MATTER THE COST PLEASE I BEG YOJ AND WHAT ECE HUMANITY YOU HA E TO STOP DEFENDING PORN AND STOP DEFENDING THE IDA THST WOMEN LOVE BEING VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED BECAUSE YOJ ALL JUST LIKE PORN
I GIES YOU SOME OF YOUR ARE RIGHT THST I AM GOING CRAZY AT JE FSCT PEOPLE BELIEVE WHAT THEU SEE IN PORN AND BELIEVE ALL WOMEN EVEN YOUR BELOVED KNES AND DAUGHTERS SHOULD BE RAPED BECAUSE ITS SEXU FOR YOU ALL!
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Surprised this is still up and while it's still up. Lemme just take the highroad just say, OP...
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Please remember. Whatever deranged and awful shit you may have seen in porn or rule 34 is not real, please remember that. No matter how dirty and unhinged porn or eromanga can get, its fiction. At least most of it is fictional and not real and perhaps you should seek help and try to reconcile things with your friend.
Trying to censor and ban porn is not going to work as well as you and others might think.
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May I make a suggestion Cheesecake poster? You play Gacha games? You play Genshin Impact? If so, I ask you post Lauma. I hope Genshin players here post Genshin and Gacha babes especially Lauma. Especially since her character is literally based off of mythological creature with literally big boobs.
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>muh separate fiction and reality!
Wrong! Fiction HAS already affected real life. There is NO separating for it HaAS already happened! You are just ignoring it!
Consider this:
Politics is downstream from culture/pop culture. AKA; popular shit in media and or the internet including online art can affect policy making and enforceable laws due to said popular shit that people love, celebrate and are being influenced by. So the logic is, the more the deranged /d/egen art (including the rape fetish ones) are more popular and loved to the point of normalization and desensitization.
How about that? Get it now? The further you continue and insist defending porn, the more and soon you will see rape being legalized and normalized because enough and too many people have been brainwashed and psyoped by porn!
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>It's demonstrably not true that people point to hentai about ugly bastards and goblins when discussing female rape fantasies.
FUUUUUUUUKKK YOU!!! YOU EVIL IMMORAL PIECES OF SHIT! STIP TELLING ME THIS! STOP REPEATING THIS LIE! STOP DEFENDING PORNA AND THE PORN INDUSTRY! STOP HELPING THEM NORMALIZING AND LEFALIZNG ASSAULT IS AND VIOLATING OUR WOMEN!
FUCK YOU AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN "It's demonstrably not true that people point to hentai about ugly bastards and goblins when discussing female rape fantasies"!?
THE. WHY IS IT EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE I GO?? WHY IS IT SO COMMON WHY IS IT SO PLENTIFUL WHY SO INFINITY WHY! IS ?! IT! EVERYWHERE WHRBJS!?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PORN OF UGLY MONSTROUS MEN AND OTHER MONSTERS RAPING WOMEN "IS NEVER REAL!?" YOU'RE TELLING ME ITS NOT TROOOO!!? BUT AT THE SAME FUCKING TIME THE SAME FUCKING BRRATH SEVERAL DOZEN MORE KF YOU MEN SAY "HUIURRRUDUDURR HUIRR!! WOMEN LOVE RAPE PORN THEU LOVE BEING VIOLENTLY GANGRAPED BECAUSE SEXY AND HOT!!!"
DHJSUWASSDDFBF ITS YOU PEOPLE MAKING ME I SANE ?!! ITS YO PEOPLE WHO ARE.DRIVINGDS INSANE WITH YOUR DENIAL FO TRUTH AND MORALITY!!! WJU DO YOU I SISJ T WHY WHUWJU WBU!??
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>>97462983
We've got more porn and less rape today, at least in the West, than in any other time in history, I'm pretty sure. Are you yearning to the good old days when porn wasn't as common but marital rape was legal, or for the days when an owner could rape his slaves all he wanted?
>FUCK YOU AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN "It's demonstrably not true that people point to hentai about ugly bastards and goblins when discussing female rape fantasies"!?
I mean exactly what I said, that people in this thread have pointed to stuff like bodice rippers rather than to the kind of hentai you obviously read way too much.
Also this was more amusing earlier on when it still seemed plausible that you were genuinely confused and upset. Now you're making it way too obvious that you're just trolling. Please put in some effort. You were doing pretty good for a while, so don't ruin your act now.
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>using the LaDS femgooner (sploosher?) cope edit of that meme
Lost what little credibility you still had with that one, chief
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>>97462943
We're actually not sure what impact porn has on peoples' views and love lives. A number of studies have been proposed and attempted. The problem with them is that you cannot get a control group. There literally aren't sample populations that have mainstream socio-economic status and do not consume porn. The control group doesn't exist, so you can't run a test on what effect the introduction of porn to the control group has.
I don't care about the rest of the conversation you're having. But that fact does interest me. We simply have absolutely no idea, whatsoever, what impact the easy availability of porn is having on our culture. Just none.
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I have a different one in mind
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>>97462983
Having watched women talk about womens literature the images in your meme are reversed. The average man wants a loyal woman fantasy and the average woman wants a billionaire werewolf to gently rape them.
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>>97463374
>women are just as bad as men
The people who actually think like OP irl believe that women are ontologically 'good', compared to men being ontologically 'evil'.
They can not comprehend that women are even capable of cruelty without some manner of provocation or 'trauma'.
I know, it's absurd, but if you remember this, and the fact that 90% of the accusations are projection, then a lot of the rhetoric makes sense.
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>>97448349
The only trve male fantasy: be strong, fight slightly less strong men to get hot women.
The only trve female fantasy: be hot, have strong men fight over access to you.
>women are hesitant and afraid
That sums up their sex, yes.
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>>97462983
Hey, buddy.
I stand by what I said here; >>97459330
Your "Friend" knucklefucked herself cross-eyed thinking about what happened to her and she'll never, ever let you touch it.
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>>97464051
>screechy karens and feminazis.
Nah, they're still powered by fear. It's just fear of immorality, of being excluded from the herd for wrongthink, hence the constant virtue signalling. No different than how christianity operates.
Being raped is just less of a statistical concern for women than being ostracized for being a racist. There will be a point where the fear of scholars and engineers raping them will outweigh the fear of being othered for bigotry, at which point they'll flip and vote Hitler.
Honestly, a lot of men operate this way too. It is the normal tendency for social mammals.
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>>97448349
on one hand i agree it gets to be a little eh
on the other it's like, if you're a woman/to any woman reading this: try to make your sexy man content instead of policing what guys do. we don't really live in an era anymore where misogyny is just crazy prevalent. it's still there but it's not like you ladies can't organize yourselves and try to create the content you want to see on a small scale level
even beyond the feminism issue it's fiction. it's not real. who gives a fuck
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i say small scale not to imply large scale isn't possible (hades popped off) but in general there aren't enough female programmers into video games or game dev studios with females who will make that content you want to see. so it's tricky. no trannies aren't women
btw whenever a woman complains about LE SEXY CARTOON WOMEN it's just subconscious jealousy that she doesn't have anything like that, or she doesn't have the variety of choice i do
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>>97464137
>it's not like you ladies can't organize yourselves
It actually is. Women are biologically incapable of forming hierarchies. There haven't been sufficient selection pressures to make women good at teamwork, meanwhile hunting and warfare select for men who optimize teamwork.
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>>97464309
I never said they didn't. I said they cannot form them.
>equal
No such thing.
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This would surely sting if it wasn't for the pitter patter of tiny feet in my living room and the clings and clangs of dinner being prepared in the kitchen.
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>As in this blatant insistance that every female HAS be this gorgeous super model with their tits hanging out.
Yeah they should be.
I don't want ugly shit in my fantasy, retard.
Go goon over "realistic" wahmen by yourself IRL and leave my fantasy alone.
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>>97449518
nta but
>Name 2 women's fantasy books you read
Fourth Wing, didn't bother to read other
>why you chose to read them
I was craving for a fantasy book and decided to ignore the fact author is female and bestseller. what I remember best is MC having hots for a guy that'd kill her if he knew who she was(or he knew don't remember now) but he was a bad boy so they had to get a chapter about fucking each other
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>>97448349
I've had female players draw their female characters as supermodel porn stars. And then go and romance some NPC ones.
Female fantasy fans want to be (and fuck) the supermodel porn stars as much as the male fantasy fans want to fuck (and be) them. Being attractive people attracting attractive people is part of the fantasy. No it's not realistic, being an adventurer isn't realistic, you should be a gongfarmer with cholera. Dragons and necromancers aren't realistic your biggest enemy should be rats in your grain stores and a slightly harsher winter than usual.
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>>97448349
The overwhelming majority of women want to be attractive and the overwhelming majority of men want to look at attractive women.
The only ones calling for the uglification of women in fiction are are bitter, lonely, ideologically-driven feminists who would crawl over a mile of broken glass to spite men, and the pseudo-castrato male pick-mes who pretend to agree with them for good-boy points.
T.L;D.R. - Hope she sees this, bro.
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>>97449518
How about I just link you to about a gorillion fanfics and chatbots made for women by women?
>>97449402
>Whenever I'm told and see these "women like rape fetishes" claims. It's always the most grotesque, absurd, violent and unbelievably hideous outcomes of "being raped by ugly men and monsters and goblins, ugly black men, etc."
Werewolves and serial killers are the ones I see the most.
Goblin and ugly bastard rape I think are mostly for guys that mostly just care about the debasement aspect or need to self-insert but have piss low self-esteem.
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I fucking hate this board and modern discourse about this hedonistic bullshit that dominates everything now.
Mods allow fucking threads like this but delete any quality posts if they as much as question the retarded egalitarian shit they believe.
Hitler was right. Watch, jannies and mods will delete this post but keep this fucking faggot thread up.
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>>97466492
dude, the OP is likely a Janny.
There's a retard wastoid that get's board and start's shitfits and then bans the people who responds to them so long as it can vaguely be forced into the global rule system.
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>btw whenever a woman complains about LE SEXY CARTOON WOMEN it's just subconscious jealousy that she doesn't have anything like that, or she doesn't have the variety of choice i do
Hmmm.
You might be onto something there. Baldurs Gate had plenty of nekkid voluptuous women, but it had massive support.
Clearly, we just need to go back to the days of Frazetta, Vallejo, and Bell.
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>>97463042
>people in this thread have pointed to stuff like bodice rippers
And like what I also have meant! ADVOCATING, DEFENDING AND PLAYING DEFENS EFOR THE PORN INDUSTRY! Why do you all have INSIST and FORCE this notion! This "fact" that women "love being sexually assaulted violently!"
>Are you yearning to the good old days when porn wasn't as common but marital rape was legal, or for the days when an owner could rape his slaves all he wanted?
THAT IS YOOUUUUU PEOPLE!!! THST IS WHAT YOU WANT! NOT ME! I DO NOT WANT WOMEN BEING DEHUMANIZED SEX DLAVES! WHY MUST YOU DEHUMANIZE AND DEBASE YOUR WOMEN LOKE THIS!? WHY WHWUWHEUY!? WHY IM GENUINELY FURIOUS AND CONFUSED WHY NONE OF YOU CAM JUST SAY RAPE IS BAD AMD SEXUALLY ASSAULTING WOMEN IS BAD!!!!! WHYE??
DO YOU ALL REALLY YESRN AND WANT YOUR DAUGHTERS AND SISTERS TO BE GANGRAPED SO BADLY BECAUSE PORNOGRAPHY NORMALIZES AND LEGALIZES IT!? DO YOU ALL WANT YOUR WOMEN TO END UP LOKE IN THAT CRIMINAL HILLBILLY RAPE MOVIE!? DO YOU FIND A FATHER AND HUSBAND'S WIFE AND DAUGHTER BEING SO VIOLENTLY GANGRAPED BY EVIL MEN AND MOSNTERS SO AROUSING BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE THAT HYPERSEXUALIZED AND BORED!???!
STOP SAYING WOMEN LOVE THAT! WHU WHY I REALLY AND GENUINELY AM IN TEATSS WHY NINE OF YOU CAN JUST SIMPLY SAY VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN IS WRONG!!! I DON'T WHAT TO DO TO TRY SPREAD GOOD IN THIS WORLD WHU WHY WUYH!!
PLEASE ITS NOT FICTION ITS REAL LIFE TOU AR E ALL BEING BRAINWASHED AND MANIPULATED!!!
and fplwae for the love god stop saying there are women who think this is okay haven't you all thought that maybe these women who say the like it are victims or are brainwashed by the porn industry and evil men and manipulate ld and force d to see they love being assaulted by men! OS WHAT OF TIIS IS BECAUSE MY BELOVED FRIEND WAS ASSAULTED SO WHAT INF I CANT KET IT GO TI SHOULD BEVER HAPPENED TO HER AND WHU CNAT YOU UST SEE THOS IS WJUST WIONG!
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>Baldurs Gate had plenty of nekkid voluptuous women
The "smokeshow" everyone told me I was supposed to be getting irrepressibly horny over looks like chudjak in a wig
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The fact remains that a not a single female character in Bearsex Gape 3 was particularly attractive, much less conventionally so. You had chudjak in a wig, the "musclemommy" (read: built like a dude), and the frogfraced freak. None of which were particularly voluptuous either.
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>trying too hard: the post
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>>97458445
Dennis was right. It's all about ugliness.
When it's the rich oiled muscle pirate of those Harlequin novels, it's all swooning and 'take me now'.
>But when "average American: now with British teeth" does it... Taser time.
This is understandable if we think about it flipped: Hot fit rich chick decides she wants your lovestick now and won't take no for an answer, her bypassing your consent feels like the dumbest of technicalities right now.
But when "morbidly obese T-rex with the meth mouth" says it wants to suck you off, you wanna call in an airstrike.
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>>97458445
The problem, at its core, stems from how men give women an even bell curve 1-10 attractiveness score, wheras women give men a significantly lower overall attractiveness score.
They think the top 90% are the top 70%, the average is below average, and the below average is horrible.
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So, this thread has lasted this long and will end soon. But let me impart some words of wisdom or more specifically, my thoughts and reason why porn is actually bad and shitty these days. But it has little to do with morals and "moral decay.* And the answer?? Oversaturation, overabundance and easy access thanks to the internet.
If you ask me these days why porn IS bad and harmful, blame the overabundance, oversaturation and borderline normalization of shit like cheating, NTR, rape and sexual violence porn. That is numerous, plentiful and nigh infinite in the current modern day internet. Normies very much know if NTR and know what it fucking means. Sure vanilla and wholesome loving shit did became stale and "boring" back at the time and the rise of the more unhinged and or outright violent and vile porn genres and tags became popular because more and more people came into the internet and developed kinks because of it .
But now even the unhinged gross violent tags and subgenres of porn especially NTR has now become oversaturated, overabundant and stale because of the normalization and overabundance of it. I do believe when I or some other people complain and talk about porn these days being shit and garbage and truly degenerate in a bad harmful way. It's not because of muh morals, but mainly because porn has become so oversaturated and normalized and normified to the point it is everywhere and way too easy to find and way too easy access it is practically in the front pages section of normal surface level websites.
Normies KNOW what NTR is, that is why people bemoan and complain about porn and the degeneracy it brings. Because it becaame mainstream and normalized, which now meant everyone else now gets to see other people's genuinely weird unhinged and repulsive fetishes and kinks that would've otherwise remained niche and obscure in the older days of the web.
That has to be the big main issue of porn and even rule 34 of your favorite 3D settings and characters.
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>>97462478
>Criminalizing porn won't work
You are wrong! Real prosecution against it hasn't been tried or done yet. And Yes, I am 100% behind removal of all porn from both the Internet and from shelves, and for prosecuting pornography producers as criminals.
Pornography doesn’t just mess up a lot of people’s views of marriage and love, it COMPLETELY distorts them to a point of complete disassociation from the entire point of marriage.
Porn takes something that was meant to be an action of love between a husband and wife and turns it into a commodity to give someone outside of that union a cheap dopamine hit.
The demystifying of the sexual act has destroyed modern life.
All of that, and plenty of people who engage in pornography are predators in the making or predators in hiding bidding their time in pouncing on their victim and grooming any unfortunate minor that have gotten their hands on.
It is the ultimate evil, violence and hatred towards women. Including YOUR women YOUR wives, YOUR daughters YOUR mothers YOUR Girlfriends YOUR sisters! THINK OF THE HUMANITY!
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Also I really am ashamed I haven't posted the more White pilled version of OP image sooner when I had it this whole time >>97448349
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The reality of the medieval era is that cute women with fat tits could exist and there's a good reason why some professions like Dairy Farmers with access to lots of fatty milk and cheeses often had well figured women as daughters.
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>>97471576
Hey there, Tatsuya Ishida, how's that Neo-Nazi TERF webcomic of yours goin'?
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>>97448349
Women exist for men to consume. That's pretty much their purpose for most of recorded history, for the simple fact that men are stronger than women.
This is why we never have societies with female armies or matriarchies, they just got gang-raped to death.
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>>97462983
>Porn normalizes rape
>Americuck puritans elect the same convicted rapest, twice.
My god, this guys is right all along.
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>>97475688
NTA. There is little sexual selection of males for beauty.
Males are sexually selected first and foremost by other males because they bar them access to their females and must be killed or convinced. This selects for power: what is attractive about a man commonly boils down to height/strength (physical power) and/or wealth/intelligence (social power). These things also make a man appealing as a friend, colleague, neighbor or in-law, and have little to do with how women are selected for being aesthetically pleasing.
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>>97448349
>Why must the fantasy always insist and force every single member of the female gender be blow-up dolls and porn stars?
Oh, so you can accept a firebreathing dragon but not makeup or women being hot? Cosmetics are mentioned in the Bible and in ancient greek texts.
>Do fantasy nerds really?
Yes.
>DO MEN REALLY!?
Absolutely.
Glad we had this talk.
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>>97468655
>This "fact" that women "love being sexually assaulted violently!"
The fact that many like to PRETEND about being sexually assaulted violently.
>maybe these women who say they like it are victims or are brainwashed by the porn industry
No more brainwashed than all the male gooners are.
And honestly, this idea you have that all women are these perfect little innocent angels with potential for no taboo sexuality screams of benevolent misogyny. Not to mention your equating of provocative dress to an inferred signalling, priming, or desire for rape. If anyone here has been brainwashed by the patriarchy, I'm pretty sure it's you.
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>>97477024
lol, the Democrats are crying because I told the truth
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>>97477306
Samefag. inb4 inspect element "proof".
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>>97477118
Your shot in the dark missed I'm afraid, I'm a 30-something year old virgin.
>inb4 what makes you thinks you know what women like then
I have eyes and ears, and I use them. You might want to try listening to women some time too.
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>>97459343
>Are you basically saying we as a species should just ban porn?
>>97471576
>Yes, I am 100% behind removal of all porn from both the Internet and from shelves, and for prosecuting pornography producers as criminals.
Thank you for the clarification.
First, let me say that I believe that the porn industry is roughly 99% pure evil and should be regulated into the fucking ground rather than outright abolished.
However, the issue at hand is the depiction of women as being unrealistically attractive.
The actual reality is that lookism is real, we're all guilty of it, and it is literally NEVER going away.
People like to look at beautiful things more than unattractive things, regardless of whether attractiveness is the point. That's never going to change.
Holding your breath, stamping your feet, and protesting all night and day won't change that.
Like the man said:
>Mr. Jones strikes up a conversation with a black-haired flamenco dancer
>You know she dances while his father plays guitar, she's suddenly beautiful
>And we all want something beautiful
>...Man, I wish I was beautiful
Instead of raging pointlessly and impotently on the internet, wasting yours and everyone's time while achieving nothing. Instead, my advice would be to play some ttrpg with a handful of decent people. Laugh, share some beautiful moments, and enjoy life before age and pain strip everything from you that you hold dear.
But that's just my opinion.
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>>97477408
>all the women that refuse to fuck him secretly want him to rape them
To be an incel I'd have to be on the market. My entire attempt at dating was like, 4 months when I was 20. They all went bizarrely, so I backed off of it to just observe and learn. And once I figured out what I was looking at, I decided I had enough hassle already and would just focus on myself. Even people in relatively happy relationships, they're still work. Maybe I just haven't met anybody that feels worth that amount of work? I'm certainly not on any trajectory to ever do so though.
I don't think all women want me to rape them, I think a sizable contingent of women want to imagine being raped by something powerful, dangerous, and masculine for sexual fetish purposes. I (correctly) register as harmless twink, so 0/3 (and probably why i've basically only ever pulled fujoshis and gay men). And you don't have to take my word for it, literally just go to Ao3, chub.ai, or pick up a book in the fantasy romance aisle with a woman author's name.
But again and more to the point, you're still equating attractive features and scant clothing, the technical topic of this thread, with rape. People want to self-insert as being desirable, and they enjoy imagining desirable people. Neither of those inherently imply rape fantasy, raper or rapee.
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>>97477139
Zero Democrats are crying about Trump the Gay Lump being in the released files.
>>97477306
Yes, /pol/tards are happy about that when everyone with a brain understand ICE doing that is a very bad thing, The last thing anyone needs now is retards shooting people in the streets.
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>>97477622
>the trick is to not listen to their words but listen to their actions.
How's that working out for you?
Especially the bit where you treat women as a monolith hivemind rather than treating each woman like an individual with a distinct life history?
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>>97477622
Indeed. That applies for everyone, but doubly so for anyone charming enough to make you consider listening to his or her words.
>>97477671
I can't speak for him, but I'm over half a decade into the same woman and have successfully reproduced with her by drawing upon my experience with other women, given that they are all fundamentally the same.
How many dutiful sons who call you father with love in their voice has your individualistic approach secured for you so far?
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>>97477671
>How's that working out for you?
Quite well actually.
>Especially the bit where you treat women as a monolith hivemind rather than treating each woman like an individual with a distinct life history?
That's part of their actions now ain't bud.
In fact, "judge people by their actions over their words" is just good general advice. It just matters more because women have a bad tendency, probably a matter of societal conditioning, of saying one thing but feeling another. Sometimes it's intentional deception, sometimes it's testing or mindgames, sometimes it's trying to keep peace or reassure, sometimes it's wishful thinking, sometimes it's self-deception. Where as with guys, arguably they do it even harder, but it's concentrated on only a few subjects, so a lot of what they say you really can take at face value, and since it's concentrated if you know those areas you can easily guess when they are and aren't saying something you should disregard.
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>>97477989
>I'm over half a decade into the same woman
Cool story bro.
I'm three times that. Git gud.
>have successfully reproduced with her by drawing upon my experience with other women
That's not how the birds and the bees work.
>given that they are all fundamentally the same.
They're all carbon based life forms but their expectations regarding their needs, desires, fears, and insecurities vary by individual.
>How many dutiful sons who call you father with love in their voice has your individualistic approach secured for you so far?
Zero because I am not interested in having sex with your son. I think that's a weird thing for you to pimp out if I'm being honest.
It's almost like my needs and desires vary from yours like we're different individuals. Oh, right. We're men. In your world view are men allowed to be individuals while women are are all "fundamentally the same"?
>>97478327
>"judge people by their actions over their words" is just good general advice.
You're thinking of "judge an individual by their actions."
Not "judge women by the actions of women."
To be fair, you might simply communicating poorly instead of being totally wrong.
For example:
>That's part of their actions now ain't bud.
What is? Their life history?
And when I raised the point, you didn't clarify whether you're judging an individual or a collection of people.
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>>97478607
>are men allowed to be individuals while women are are all "fundamentally the same"?
Some. It's a bell curve, which, like with IQ, is significantly narrower for women. Most men are fundamentally the same too. You, for example, are indistinguishable from every other reddit-brained goyslop eating funkopop collecting consumer regurgitating the exact same tired claims of modernity which all men prior to the enlightenment would have laugh at.
>I am not interested in having sex with your son
What an odd topic for you to bring up. I guess I did find something that distinguished you from the herd of braying plebeians. Please face the wall. I've... uh, gotta address the rest of your redditspaced post.
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Solution B is better at first blush, but I think sometimes you just want media that caters to you specifically. Media that doesn't try to cater to everyone. Media that's just for boys or just for girls or just for bisexuals or just for prudes.
I therefore boldly propose that everyone draw whatever the fuck they want and market forces sort out the rest.
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>regurgitating the exact same tired claims of modernity which all men prior to the enlightenment would have laugh at.
Individuals remain individuals regardless of who you imagine would laugh at the idea. Slapping that simple truth with the label of "modernity" so that you can be dismissive and huff your own false sense of superiority changes nothing.
Judging individuals based on generalizations of a group they are part of is literally and definitively ignorance. That's not even debatable. It's literally what it is.
You can claim willful ignorance is superior wisdom but it seems pretty laughable to me.
>You, for example, are indistinguishable from every other reddit-brained goyslop eating funkopop collecting consumer
I made my mistress set her hand on fire for me because she feared it more than my knife. You know nothing of my works and your argument is invalid.
>What an odd topic for you to bring up.
You are the one bringing up a child staring at you lovingly in a discussion about unrealistically attractive fantasy characters whereas I am the one uninterested in children at all.
Just sayin'
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>>97480025
>listens to women
>doesn't understand what children have to do with women
>assumes people who bring up children are trying to sell them for sex
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>>97459076
It’s not pandering if you actually give people what they want. Neckbeards want scantily clad sorceresses and knights with big tits and ass. Women, even feminists, don’t actually want a world full of ugly prudes. Feminists are just in denial about it and only support this puritanical bullshit vindictively, to “get back at men”
Women are incredibly fickle and almost never say what they actually mean.
So making all the female characters ugly always fails to get women into the hobby because you’re basing marketing decisions on women's STATED PREFERENCES rather than their OBSERVED ones