https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHRvDo8rUoQ
Reminds me of this song.

>>97462058
>mado artist
Man went from making unnerving cannibalism to hot tomboy hentai to making a wholesome fantasy comedy manga series and I dig it.
All while maintaining a drawing style that is neither too simplistic nor too detailed that has him stand out.

And his fantasy manga series makes me want to organize a ttrpg session where the whole thing is a piss taking parody all in good humor.

>>97462058
What would be refreshing is if anyone actually talked about games here for fucking once.

>>97462058
>Wouldn't it be refeshing to see it from more optimistic angle?
Hard to do without either surrounding them with other immortals, which makes the fact that they are immortal functionally irrelevant (no on in The Simpsons has aged in decades, but you wouldn't generally consider them immortal because everything around them is just as static as they are) or by making them a psychopath who is surrounded by people who drop like flies around them and never gets bothered by it.
Neither of which approach or explore the concept of an immortal being in any way thats interesting, both cases essentially just try to ignore the fact that the character is immortal in the first place.

>>97462058
The immortals of Glorantha are usually pretty happy with the deal, but they tend tto lasst only a coupple centuries before somebody sstrong enough appears and ends them to steal thier stuff or they mess up and accidentaly ascend to godhood and become static and timeless.

>>97463524
>surrounding them with other immortals
Which is what Exalted does and to some extend World of Darkness splats like Vampire (taking just the unaging part, not the invincible part of immortality) do, and it works just fine.
>a psychopath who is surrounded by people who drop like flies around them and never gets bothered by it.
Travel a lot and keep making new friends to cope with passing of the old ones, just like Tom Bombadil (alright, not exactly a picture of perfect mental health, he is a bit loopy) or Elminster do. Though again, you might argue Elminster has a bit of a high functioning psychopathy going on, like most Harpers.

Is Mado cooking anything interesting these days?

>>97463516
Just hide threads that talk about settings and worldbuilding stuff, instead of constantly getting assblasted over not seeing threads even you refuse to start.

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>>97463615
I'd be careful with the word "cooking" here... but afaik Interstellar Immigration is wrapping up, Rudy going strong (approved for official English publication), Tara-san still untranslated, and this new thing seems to be slowly picking up.

>>97462058
It's not envy, it's putting a limiter on a very obviously desirable state, to allow for exploration of the topic or conflict unlooked for. Immortality with no drawbacks is often boring.

>>97463710
Don't ask what people think would be refreshing if you're going to get mad.

>>97463764
I didn't, but I lurk here enough to have seen you shitposting in every thread. Enough to know you're now called Wilbur for it. So please, if you aren't capable of contributing, either hide the thread or fuck off.

>>97463710
Just hide replies you don't like :^)

>>97463754
>Immortality with no drawbacks is often boring.
Sound a bit like sour grapes argument being quite on point. You've got all the time, you can do anything, how is that not exciting?

>>97465876
Not the same. Threads are made for a purpose. You're just being a pathetic retard.

>>97466573
I explained why in the very same post you replied to...

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>>97463753
Rudy is a treasure.

>>97463753
Interstellar Immigration is done if the completed tag on mangadex is to be correct.
Scanlation teams have given up so I need official translators to hurry up.
I need the scanlation teams to pick up the latest manga adaptation of legend of the galactic heroes too.

>>97462058
I've never met someone above the age of 50 who didn't relish the thought of death.

>>97462058
Nope.
It would be less refreshing, and more inappropriately optimistic, bordering on tone-deaf.
There is no true happy ending for those who battle against nature itself.

Immortality is a curse, because you outlive the context of your own life, and everything that meant anything to you, and the world moves on without you.

Men are of their time.
Growing old as the world changes around you, and you slowly become irrelevant, is natural psychological horror.

back in Anima BF I made a "nearly" immortal character, pretty much you needed to chop his head off otherwise he kept coming back though slowly, but because ABF is point buy system it cost a lot and made me a mediocre fighter. Backstory wise I made that he was trapped inside a caved in for almost a century and his skills got severely atrophied to explain why he was so mediocre. It was fun though I was mostly used as a human shield by the rest of the party who, while mortal, were way better optimized and better at dealing with everything

>>97463552
>but they tend tto lasst only a coupple centuries before somebody sstrong enough appears
What the fuck anon, you type like a snake speaks.

>>97468610
You hang out with lame fuckers. Real ones live out of spite for the very concept of death.

>>97462058
>Wouldn't it be refeshing to see it from more optimistic angle?
Eh, it got stale after the first billion year.

>>97462058
I agree. But humans only write the "Immortality is actually bad and undesirable" as a massive cope to feel better about dying.
Given the chance I would take Immortality.

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>>97469197
I like the implication that this is some immortal that must feed on humans communicating to his lastest victim who is trying to bargain for their life.

>>97469172
Well, it is undesirable for anyone else to gain immortality. Can you imagine some Indian street shitter or Appalachian cousin fucker becoming immortal? What the fuck are they supposed to do with eternity? Just consume resources and produce trash?

>>97463817
OP isn't capable of contributing to the board, so why aren't you having an issue with this thread?

>>97467326
A post saying what would be refreshing in response to a question of what would be refreshing has a purpose.
If having purpose is all it takes to make a thread here, you shouldn't have a problem with the responses to them.

>>97462058
Did you mean to post this on /a/?

>>97469524
Storytime is protected /tg/ heritage.

>>97469416
The simple fact is that Immortality is obviously desirable for the individual, because people generally don't want to die, but it is catastrophic for society. Nobody should ever want or even tolerate anyone else to be immortal. You have an obligation to kill them on sight or, lacking that ability, bind them in chains and throw them in the ocean. No exceptions.

Once immortality becomes available to a society, there are really only one of two possible outcomes:

1: Immortality is hoarded by the wealthy/elite. You very quickly end up with a caste system where the common, mortal man is ruled over by psychotic forever-kings who own everything. Over the course of generations they will simply acquire all money, all property, all power and society exists to serve them and them alone. Everyone else doesn't matter, and they've treat you as nothing more than a resource to be used because without immortality you cease to be a 'real person' to them. This doesn't even require the immortal upper class to be malign or evil in any way, its simply the inevitable trajectory of the situation. How could a class of people who live for 1000 years NOT outcompete and dominate the flicker-lives of normal people? They will simply accumulate wealth, never pass it on, and the rest follows naturally from that wealth being used.

>>97469656

2: Immortality is shared, and most if not all of society has access to it. You will have a massive population boom as people continue to be born but do not die off as they should, creating intense resource shortages. Then, the pendulum will swing the other way and immortal people will institute harsh population control restrictions to prevent new people from being born at all to stem the tide, leading to a calcification of society.
From that point onward the wold becomes effectively frozen. Whoever is in power on that day will, without some kind of massive civil unrest, basically just remain in power forever. Those that have secured positions of power or authority will do whatever it takes to keep it, and if successful they will be able to keep it forever. Even a democracy won't save you from this outcome, because population demographics won't shift or change anymore. And that matters, look at american politics and realize why all of our recent presidents and congressmen are so fucking *old*. Its because the largest voting block, the Boomers, won't vote for anyone younger than they are.
Now imagine we get immortality pills tomorrow. The year is 2778, and the Boomers are *still* in charge. They have never been unseated from power, because they are still the largest voting block and always will be. They still have all of the property and money, because there is never any reason for them to pass it on to later generations. Centuries later, their voting habits on every issue are still largely informed by the assumptions and experiences they internalized in the 1980s because as we have seen, old people stop updating their internal model of the world after a certain age and giving them extra centuries on Earth isn't going to change that.
Of course, the above scenario is completely unrealistic. We'd never make it 2778. The rulers would grow so out of touch with reality over time that the country, the world, would collapse under mismanagement.

>>97469595
>>>/qst/

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>>97469172
>Given the chance I would take Immortality.
Enjoy your golden prison at the bottom of the ocean.

>>97469656
>Nobody should ever want or even tolerate anyone else to be immortal. You have an obligation to kill them on sight or, lacking that ability, bind them in chains and throw them in the ocean. No exceptions.
This line of thinking seems be behind both Dark Sun, where immortal Sorcere-Kings become so powerful general population can never hope to overthrow them, and Vampire the Masquarade, where vampires rule through thralls and proxies and keep their very existence secret.
And arguably the girl in the OP, keeping low profile, always on the move, and only revealing herself to other immortals.
As for amassing wealth, immortal doesn't necessarily mean omnipotent of omnipresent and there's only so much landscape one invincible tireless humanoid can feasibly cover and bully into compliance. Unless there's willing mortal collborants forming power structure necessary to reign larger area a lone immortal will never rule more than a single city-state.

>>97469726
Simply wait for the atoms to stop existing via the cosmic expansion and then make your own non-compressed atoms with your blood

>>97469881
Just make a religion, anon. Duh. If you are the only immortal around, its almost harder to NOT have the normal people see you as a divine figure. Its trivially easy to set yourself up as some kind of demi-god, all you have to do is not suck so bad that they want to get rid of you and act wise enough to be worth listening to.

>>97469709
Posting images is not questing, anon.

>>97469972
>the Dao is endless
>i am the Dao

>>97470052
Storytime is questing.

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>>97462058
Just read more.

>>97469656
>>97469688
Yep.

>>97469972
I dunno. If you don't have superpowers, I feel like some king is eventually going to kidnap you to perform experiments on you. Even today, I bet you'd end up in some crazy billionaire's basement as he performs experimental blood transfusions on you. Blade of the Immortal had a whole chapter about this.

>>97470341
If you get on the train early enough, the king's divine right to rule is validated by your word, making you untouchable. Its all about setting up society to hang on your word. If you can pull off a religious gambit, money and power will simply flow to you.
The trick is, of course, having the charisma and messaging to sell yourself. But the longer you live, the more of a case you make for yourself just by existing. The trick, however, is to not claim you are all-powerful because that won't work out for you in the long term because you will inevitably be blames when the next natural disaster happens. Rookie mistake.

>>97462163
>cannibalism
What it called?

>>97469481
>>97469517
OP did contribute. You haven't. And OP asked if a SPECIFIC thing would be refreshing, not anything, you dishonest loser.

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>>97470325
Death of the Endless or one of the adjacent characters? Read a few chapters, didn't particularly like it, felt like overall message was you're going to die better make peace with that.
Though you do have a point that whole bunch of capes... superheroes are immortal (but also not really, because parallel universes?) and use it for conquest of the world/universe, or defense against such would-be-tyrants. I'm sure there's plenty to read in that regard, I just don't think I have the time to dig through all the bland stuff to find the good parts.

>>97470097
No one is making decisions or taking actions for characters based on static images, anon. If the pictures are moving around and talking to you, you may need to see a doctor.

>>97470725
>OP did contribute.
Which game is he talking about, or how does his topic directly affect playing a game?

>>97470918
The static images were decided according to the whims of someone telling a story, which is how quests progress.
Go fuck yourself.

>>97462058
If immortality just went perfectly fine, then it would be kind of boring to write about. It's already an unnatural concept, which has its own little point of interest, so it's the exploration of why it's not all that cracked up to be, going beyond the power fantasy, that makes it worthwhile to talk about.

>>97463516
Post five games that you have talked about in the past twenty-four hours, link twenty posts discussing games that you have made in the past twenty-four hours and write a two hundred word essay explaining why you deserve to post on /tg/.

>>97470409
I believe it i's spelled 食人主義 in the original language.

>>97471043
That doesn't seem to actually matter here, with all the settings lore worldbuilding, so fuck yourself.
Make better threads instead of blaming your critics.

>>97470325
Who's that in the background of the last two panels?

>>97470949
Lol. Reading a manga is not a quest. Scream as loudly as you like, it will not make it true.

>>97471185
Looks like someone in Phrygian cap, symbol of France Revolution (one of them anyway).

>>97471315
>no reading comprehension
Too bad for you.
Fuck off to /a/.

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>>97462163
Some parts just hit different when you're familiar with the artist's older works

>>97463524
Something I don't really get is that you don't have to be a complete uncaring psychopath, or a guy crying over his lost goldfish.

Consider people who like pet rats, who only live one or two years. Sure some people get overly attached to them to the point where they stop being able to take on more. But there's still a lot of people who do it without falling into that nadir.

>>97470935
Oh look, it was Wilbur this whole time, trying to shift goalposts to his favourite shitposting topic. Get fucked, you sad little troll.

>>97462058
>Wouldn't it be refeshing to see it from more optimistic angle?
Yeah if you're a Satanist, sure.

>>97472572
Some people can only imagine things in sharply contrasted extremes.
Still, immortal will probably start viewing mortals as not-quite-equal eventually. At best beloved pets, at worst tools and resources. Man is to elf like dog is to man.

>>97473302
The reason immortality is depicted as death by a thousand cuts is because the sinful world is inflicting those thousand cuts. Watching the entropy of your community, family, culture, etc. is enough spiritual friction that it would take an enlightened, lubricated bike cuck to not wear out eventually. Once Jesus comes back and prevents bad things from ever happening again, eternal life would be great.

>>97470389
>the king's divine right to rule
this has literally never mattered to anyone lol

just wealth and soldiers

>>97473264
Wait are you telling me the "traditional games??" faggot has a name?

>>97466573
>You've got all the time, you can do anything, how is that not exciting?
Because there's absolutely no reason to bother doing any of it at any given moment. You have no deadlines, you have no time pressures at all. That's a recipe for ennui and procrastination even among those with limited lifespans.

>>97472572
Yes, but those rat-fanciers don't let the rats do whatever they want. They make decisions for the rats because they know better than them. A gilded cage is still a cage.

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>>97474402

>>97474406
>>97474402
All of this sounds preferable to death.
Especially as you're magically immortal here, and thus can just eternally make magic energy to reproduce a solar system's accretion disk.

>>97474326
I know it must be hard for you to imagine, but person with a modicum of willpower can set his own deadlines.

>>97463753
>I’d be careful with the word “cooking”
I read a “Scottish slang” scanlation of it and I wasn’t sure if I was supposed to laugh or be disturbed at the visuals.

>>97473892
nah, it mattered. It is just more validation from the upper eschelons of society which always helps.
Even today people listen to the shit priests or ceo's say even when they are related to politics

>>97475345
nah, it didn't matter

>>97463613
nothing in or about exalted works fine

>>97466573
i think he mean boring narratively, as a concept. generally things that are narratively interesting have some conflict or drawback to them. nothing wrong with having immortality without drawbacks, but it tends to fade in the background because "I'm immortal and have no problems with it" "ok, i have no problems with you being immortal either" isn't much of an interesting premise by itself, though not necessarily bad.
for example if a concept is interesting by itself and can be enhanced by immortality (like, i don't know, an immortal wizard who creates life and then observes how it evolves) you don't need negative aspects to make it interesting

>>97475287
That's just the proverbial tip of an iceberg, there's bunch of other stuff from like 10 years ago, mostly untranslated. I guess it does makes sense for an artist to cut their teeth drawing weird stuff, because that's usually a niche market where the bar of expected quality is lower, but damn...
and more recently, there's the Deathtrap Dungeon thing.

>>97469290
Or someone trying to follow some dark forbidden ritual to BECOME immortal that inevitably requires organs and such.

>>97475418
If I want to make it as an artist do I have to draw nasty stuff and build a niche following from there?
Kouta Hirano did hentai before he made Hellsing.
>deathtrap dungeon
Is that series still going?

I’ve wanted to draw a fantasy webcomic influenced by ttrpg fantasy cliches in a lighthearted piss take of it. Or just be a decent drawfag for /tg/.
Very original I know.

>>97474402
>>97474406
>no you don't understand I simply MUST reddit! I must reddit so much that I must take reddit with me to other places that aren't reddit! Without reddit I'll just die!
Holy kill yourself.

>>97472572
>But there's still a lot of people who do it
If you keep pet rats past your first heart rat dying, you're a hoarder and a nutjob. Every time, without fail.

>>97475508
>if I want to make it as an artist
Then you'll need to draw niche furry porn to pay your bills. Accept the weird gross stuff, it's inevitable.

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>>97475508
>Kouta Hirano did hentai before he made Hellsing.
Yeah, proto-Alucard started as canonically gay gunslinger in Gun Mania. Because Hirano is gun nut and threatening people with buttsex is funny.
>deathtrap dungeon
Two volumes with about a dozen traps each, ending on a cliffhanger with reveal of Clone Prime, so I certainly hope there will be more in the future.
The downside of artist jugging several works in parallel is that none of them is progressing consistently.

>I’ve wanted to draw
As a hobby, sure. If you mean a living you might be shit out of luck unless you've started decade ago.

>>97475697
>As a hobby, sure. If you mean a living you might be shit out of luck unless you've started decade ago.
Yeah I meant as a hobby.
For a living it might be a problem.
My sister is striving to be a concept artist and I hope she makes it.
I’ve recommended her a miniature company looking for concept artists but I’m not sure if she’s interested in making art for tabletop companies.

>>97471536
Keep trying bro. Let me know when the decisions of people in the thread can change the plot and images of an already written manga. It's not a quest because no one can use their actions or rolls to interact with the story. I dont care how booty bothered you get by manga on a Mongolian basket weaving forum.

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>>97475697
>threatening people with buttsex is funny
>threatening

>>97476174
A quest doesn't need rolls, and a QM can choose to veto votes, just as mangaka don't need consistent writing or to listen to their audiences.

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>>97463524
The manga
>Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita
follows a high elf who lives for thousands of years but still wants to explore the world, meet people, and make human connections despite the fact that everyone will die before him. A human woman falls in love with him and he stays by her side as she passes on. He raises a half-elf as an adopted son who will grow old and die before him.

>>97475508
The main reason to fall in that niche is because you like doing it, whether it be because it's a challenge or because you like it is up to you. You really only do it for cash if you're the sort who it really is a career for/you're incredibly dedicated to the art. Also helps to be a third worlder so even relatively broke Americans being willing to pay you means your rent is paid for the month.

>>97475724
>concept artist
Ouch, yeah, that is definitely the wrong specialty to be at the moment. But as for building a following, the alternative to the niche is to do popular stuff. When you "make it" then your original works do the big numbers. Until then, the stuff that will get your work seen is to do stuff that people are already looking at/for.

>>97474370
To a point. We mostly do that because we have decades of accumulated knowledge on how to best care for them. Imagine if one stood up and asked its owner "Hey I want to do X today", once they got past the shock of a talking rat they'd probably let them do it assuming it was safe for them. Also, they like their cages as a rule, and return to them when stressed or scared. It's not so much a cage as their own personal room.

>>97471185
The protagonist of Everhood, a rhythm game in which you kill a host of immortals and bring them the peace of oblivion.

>>97476360
Let me know when a guy posting manga can veto things in any way other than just not posting the next image of an already written and drawn work of fiction.

It doesn't matter how many 4channers or their GM wish it, someone storytelling The Redeemer comic can't alter its plot, rolls or no rolls.

If that's a quest then posting a pdf (back when they were still allowed anyway) of the lord of the rings is a quest.

>>97474411
SCP-7179 is better at getting this across but at some point you might as well be dead because everything that can happen has happened an infinite amount of times already

>>97488265
Many mortals manage to go through their lives quite happily without thinking about their own mortality all that much.
Similarly, an immortal might be able to live for millennia without thinking about end of the world and inevitable endless drifting through the void of space.

>>97472497
I felt that anon.

>>97473264
>talking about games is shitposting
Post your faggy manga to /a/ loser

>>97462058
I'm all with you, in these insanely small time-spans we see in stories of immortality it totally should be portrayed positive. Too many low grade sour grapes shit homes all-in on the hurr durr all my loved ones die bla bla angle. Nah that's not even the bad part. Think further ahead.

The moment your entire species went extinct after maybe 10.000, maybe 100.000 years but you're still there. The moment the last flora and fauna on your planet dies but you're still there. The moment the sun engulfs everything and you're still there. When the star of your solar system finally dies leaving you behind in darkness. When your galaxy finally collides with another and you can watch every second of that billion year long process. But you're still there and still alive. When stars disappear from the night sky because the universe expands and distances become larger and larger. When even the black-holes, that formed from the last breaths of every source of light and warmth in your galaxy, slowly radiate away their last moments. When the last species you never even knew about enter Dyson's eternal intelligence but you're still there, kicking it. Alone. Forever.

It's impossibly far in the future but you're immortal. You're eternal. You will see it.

Borges talks about this in the Aleph.

At one point, you just stand somewhere thinking about nothing in particular forever. Be it in space, be it everywhere, sooner or later the present moment stretches and compresses to an infinite and static now.

>>97463516
Puckee invites you to talk about your games all the time, but you people through a hissyfit over his OP images.

You don't want to talk about games at all.

>>97462058
You're right, but I'm not going to read your manga. Besides, this is off-topic with /tg/.

>>97493808
Those threads alway feel so disingenuous.
Perhaps OP tries to be honest, but consistently fails to get that sense of genuity across.

>>97493808
He isn't inviting shit, its another single question thats so pointlessly vague it hinders any attempt at actual discussion that he never really engages in. Its a bunch of random comments tossed out into the void. Notice how the generals actually talking about their systems and what they play? Yeah, try doing something like instead of
>do dwarves have beards in your setting
For a gajillion times

>>97462058
How about a setting where there is no heat death/big crunch AND you live as long as you want but then you are able to die and have your soul reincarnate but you only get to deal with your past life memories via AtLA style meeting of past spirits?

>>97462058
Recently I read a webcomic were the protag calls an depressed immortal out on his bullshit. That if he actually really tried to end his life, he could've found a way (which is true for a lot of types of immortality, especially with all the time they have on their hands). And that in reality he is the most of all afraid of death after his long life, which makes sense and turned out to be true. It was neat.

>>97496607
Funny, I read a similar webcomic with the same theme but an completely different conclusion. Epic of Gilgamesh I think, immortality can suck

The one I remember was a story of immortal struggling with loneliness, trying to get a companion by kidnapping people and accidentally killing them in the effort to bond, or by lashing out when they struggled against the bonding. Eventually getting a promising one that would not die easily and essentially striking a wager of own life against the promise of love. It was equal parts messed up and sweet.

>>97496638
The idea behing Gilgamesh story should be that one doesn't become immortalized by living forever but by achieving things that will be remembered down the generations. Or so I've been told.

>>97497481
I was talking about the webcomic