>>97476716
Well that's good to hear
What a fucking travesty this game was

>>97476716
Requiem was good though

I didn't even realise it came out, what the fuck?

>>97477524
Not unlike like Lamplighter's League.

>>97476716
I watched a fair few people play it for awhile, and some common complaints were:
>why aren't the vampires ashing
>it feels like we're killing too many vampires relative to the size of the area
>you can't enter buildings
>there's too much walking
>there's too many flashbacks
>there's flashbacks in flashbacks
>the ending should have permanently broken the Masquerade
>they should have just called Phyre the Nomad
>general lack of atmosphere
>Tully staking you is cheap
>the emotion-based blood upgrades is bad
Off the top of my head.

Requiem was a fun idea but the execution was based around 'is not like Masq' and by the time they started to develop their own identity for the game it was too late. The vampire craze was done and the market was saturated. Even then, half the world made no sense even by wod standards. It desperately needed a full rewrite.

Shame the Ordo Dracul couldn't work in Masq though, and Theban Sorcery/Lancea was cool. The homebrew tremere bloodline growing from the Ordo remains my favourite bit of fanwork, ever.

Personally I fucking hate Ascension so seeing Awakening, even if it's off, dip is a sad day. Forsaken is better off dead.

>>97477722
Forsaken and Apocalypse had perhaps the best niche partitioning of the two, since the former focuses on a need to hunt while the latter is about a war.

Then nuWW killed them both and stitched their hides together to make Stolen Moon Edition, which has the redeeming qualities of neither and doesn't know what to make of itself, except that its creators instilled in it a sense of self-hatred so great that it overshadows even that of the vampires.

>>97476716
>>97477153
RQ was good but it's not a good wod game

>>97477636
>you can't enter buildings
Bro, you're a vampire. You have to be invited in.

>>97478739
haha
but seriously in WoD that's only if you take it as a flaw in chargen

>>97479111
There's literally zero talk about 5th or modern Wod in the general

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>>97476716
>VTMB2
They had the chance to make their not!Christina Hendricks model really popular in porn animations, but they fumbled the game and so no one cares to do anything with it. I'll forever despise them just for that since Christina doesn't want to do nudity..

>>97477636
>>there's too many flashbacks
>>there's flashbacks in flashbacks
Was it written by Narutofags?

>>97479679
naruto is better written than anything paradox has made (and some things are even better than old wod too)

>>97476716
It was a good game, just not what people wanted from Vampire

>>97479679
Naruto only did that once. One Piece is starting to do it in every single arc.

>>97477636
It's a lot of V5-isms like resonance that is the problem with the game but
>We are killing too many vampires
More like, We aren't killing ENOUGH vampires. Bloodlines had you gunning down Sabbat like there's no tomorrow meanwhile it's just fucking ghouls up the ass in 2

>>97476716
I feel very happy about this.
Thanks for sharing the news OP.

Just promote the CYOA WoD games you retards. They're cheap to produce and almost tailor made to the fanbase you already have.

>>97479630
There's only like four people with active games there and one is playing W5

>people talking about paradox failing
>oh good we can talk about their horrible market practices
>just want to talk about WoD
Fuck that, SUBSCRIPTION DLC

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anything aberrant-related...por favor...

>>97480183
I ain't got no Deviants!

>>97480207
alright cool it with the anti divis mal remarks

>>97480183
>>97480240
I didn't like how Onyx Path made the Aeonverse more hopeful and less edgy in the new version.

>>97480247
qrd?

>>97480256
Project Utopia/Aeon Trinity did some really shady shit, especially through its Proteus Division, much of which was retconned, including the Aberrant faction which tried to uncover the conspiracy.
Similarly, some of the Proxies in Trinity were retconned, del Fuego became an enviromentalist instead of a cartel boss and Larsen a UN peacekeeper instead of a mercenary.

>>97480276
did they still keep in the US being an aberrant-ravaged police state and Europe getting kinetically nuked by a space station?

>>97480283
Yes.

>>97479686
It was 30 hours of slop for me. World felt dead. All of the enemies wore masks because animating their mouths for the dialogue was beyond The Chinese Room's talent. Very little enemy variety, story sucked, combat was repetitive and boring, feeding was VERY repetitive and boring, I could go on and on.
I like Vampire, I wanted to like the game, but it sucks. You don't have to feel bad about admitting reality. I wish the game was better, but I played the game that is, not the game that could have been.

>>97477553
Still pissed I bought that game. It's not awufl, but I've never seen a company drop support for a game that still needs work that quickly.

Also, after Lamplighter's League and Mutant Year Zero I'm going to come right out and say stealth turn based tactics just plain doesn't work as a genre.

With all its faults, Curseborne is #21 in DriveThruRPG, I think there's still a demand for spooky urban fantasy games even in the current year, but Paradox isn't supplying it.

>>97476716
Fuck gWoD.
Total oWoD victory.
1 000 000 000 dead paraniggers.

>>97479698
Gunning down shovelheads is completely different from killing actual vampires, you fucking retard.

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They deserve it.

>>97481817
V5 actually sold well, it was the video game that fail. Maybe they did needed more Rubi.

>>97481831
>Rubi

Ruby Rhod in the WoD?

>>97481831
>V5 actually sold well
it didn't
>the video game that fail
they bought wod to milk videogames out of it
>Maybe they did needed more Rubi.
yes please total paradox death.

>>97481831
imagine if they made like left4dead but it's Rudi and you are fighting uh ratkin

>>97476716
Good, it should have failed. What people want from a VtM game is an open-world RPG. Like VtM. What the flying everloving holy fuck were they thinking, forcing you down a short story? Skyrim but vampires. How fucking hard is that?

>>97476716
And nothing of value was lost

>>97477722
Requiem was a game made entirely to fix Masquerade's many issues in scope and lore and it did that. The problem was that Vampire was played 99% by fags with 10 year old characters that no longer really functioned by the rules, and they didn't want a street level game.

>>97480582
>gunning down shovelheads
Beats treating ghouls like actual threats

>>97482210

What kind of brain damage do you have to possess to make shit up like this.

>>97483250
>Beats treating ghouls like actual threats
>has never played the ttrpg

>>97482320
>wake up soldier, we have to fight government of Chechnya
My services are available and very reasonably priced, Paradox.

>>97476716
They shouldn't have listened to a literal former Ubisoft exec and shutter the Harebrained Schemes version.

"Well, development by this quality studio is too slow and expensive" is a terrible rationale when they just handed it off to another developer just to hemorrhage time and money anyways.

>>97481904
He'd probably be a Changeling.

>>97482210
The reality is thay V5 frequently appears in the top 5 RPGs on sales charts, including ICv2’s charts
>https://icv2.com/articles/markets/view/54819/ogl-mis-step-shakes-up-rpg-business
So it's among top five under the heavy weights like D&D and Pathfinder. Tell me, does your favorite game do bettter?

>>97485691
There's nothing made up here. Paradox bought WOD to make videogames and they failed in their main objective. Seethe and cope.
>>97486210
That's cool but Paradox still ended up losing money. It doesn't matter how much you try to fabricate or manipulate the figures. At the end you have to reveal your profit unless you want to be charged with money laundering. Even BL2 was on the top 4 best selling games and ended up being a collosal failure in reality. OWOD remains superior forever.

>>97486289
BL2 being a failure doesn't actually mean V5 is. There's a lot of difference and you've yet to prove anything about V5, you're just saying "nuh uh" repeatedly

>>97486289
I don't get how do you pretend to know if a book is selling well besides "it's consistently in the best sellers list". Because saying "V5 was a failure" its also an affirmation and you need to back it up with something that's better than "just trust me bro"

>>97486345
>BL2 being a failure doesn't actually mean V5 is
It does because BL2 was made following all the lore and guidelines established by V5. But you can keep hitting that copium if that makes you feel better.

>>97486366
Because what matters is the end of the fiscal year reporting revenue of the company. Not some list made by a random retard filled with speculation.

>>97486386
Yeah breaking news it takes more money to make a video game than to make an RPG, that's not proof enough to say the RPG is a failure.

>>97486372
>BL2 was made following all the lore and guidelines established by V5
Not really, no. There's a couple of important differences like with every Bloodline game mostly because the big metaplot elements are just background noise, since its a single player game where you're an elder out of touch with the current events, so something you would not really play in V5.

>>97486386
V5 didn't fail. Bloodlines did (since I doubt they can pull a Cyberpunk comeback). You have shown no proof that V5 didn't sold well.

>>97486397
And Paradox bought WOD to make videogames. Their business strategy was a failure and by extension V5 itself. The rest is you coping.

>>97486488
V5 made a profit as a product, the rest is you coping

>>97486399
BL2 failed because it was V5. This is not the only V5 based videogame they have made that has been a colossal failure. People don't like V5 because V5 is terrible. How is this hard to understand?

>>97486522
Sounds to me like people just don't like the video games they make, and V5 as a product is the only one doing fine from them.

>>97486495
>News: Paradox loses 162% on profit
>Delusional V5 fan: it made le money!!!111
This is what V5 does to your brain.

>>97486563
Paradox doesn't make the V5 videogames.
At this point is clear you're either stupid or a paid shill. Either way not looking good for the V5 fanbase.

>>97486573
>a big budget video game failed
>this means the tabletop RPG failed
nope

>>97486573
You keep saying V5 is the cause of their loses, but V5 was the only thing creating funds for them to make video games in the first place.
>>97486583
No, but Paradox its the publisher. And you're implying that its because V5 lore that the games fail, and not because the games were simply bad and the lore have little to do with it.

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>>97486600
>but V5 was the only thing creating funds for them to make video games in the first place.
Beyond delusional or trolling.
Vampire the masquerade is a pissant niche rpg title, a specific version of it doubly so.

>>97486768
It only takes 5 seconds of google to confirm that its in the top five seller among RPG books consistently, even as a niche game.

>>97479690
the Manga or the TV show?

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>>97481817
Say what you will about Rudi but it gave one intrepid shitposter the ammunition he needed to ruin every BL2 marketing thread on /v/ for several calendar years

>>97487693
It makes v5 shills seethe so rudi is based.

>>97487710
never go full retard, anon

>>97479993
Nobody has ever played anything5
I always ask for a simple thing: character sheets
Its really quite a simple ask and most people are very forward about fronting and gushing about their gay shit because that's the hobby
But literally every creep who professes to play *5 stalls and then MAYBE 40 minutes later shits out a starting character (with no XP) because the World of Darkness and its corpfiction ripoff do not give any kind of scaling for "this is an advanced sample character" therefore bad faith trolls can't present anything more than a starting character as their own

>>97483178
Considering its two main sources of inspiration (Interview with a Vampire, & The Necroscope) masquerade was never meant to be a grounded street level game as pushed by V5fags.

>>97487944
Well, I have them but I wouldn't post them here because they're not in English

>>97487966
As someone who read the Vampire Chronicles I can say it would not be a fun experience to play Vampires following the tone of those books, since it would be 90% players talking about philosophy and 10% killing. I have no idea about Necroscope.
Most people just want to play GTA 4 Vampire Edition.

>>97481831
>>97486406
>>97486600
Dumb niggers post shit like this and unfortunately >>97482210 they are TECHNICALLY correct, the worst kind of correct
The part these goyim are leaving out is that when paradox acquired the copywrong for the IP (when the original writers had long departed or literally died) they were riding off of business decisions that make sense up to very moment of having to interact with the actual market
It just requires knowing how a fucking FLGS works to understand the situation plainly
Your LGS has to BUY all of its stock, theres no refunds on that shit, it's a pure gamble and THAT'S what is reported as selling great or bad, not the actual consumer purchase
There's no whining about the stock being left in dusty backrooms and warehouses because nobody fucking wants it, the only thing reported by corporate is that they make a point of sale to some fucking store for a set of books
V5 core sold very well because LGSs made a gamble on a reboot of an ancient franchise
You know what didn't sell well to the point of being a financial nightmare?
Literally every other book after that
V5 core was the scam that stores to sign on, but the other books are basically black marks
And yes, FLGS can't sell the V5 core books that they stacked to the ceiling expecting any of the marketing to be legitimate
But corporate wrote that off as a success and PR published how well it did and (((objectively))) it sold """well""" despite the evidence of your eyes seen plainly in any game store that those are the same V5 core books from damn near a decade ago STILL sitting there

>>97487968
Bearing false witness is a sin.

>>97487996
Cool, that's still doesn't explain how it sell consistently well in digital platforms like DriveThruRPG.

>>97487991
The Necroscope is the reason for why the metaplot starts around the cold war and ends about being super vampires.

The tzimisce, gangrel and nosferatu clans are from it; alongside the Reckoning hunters and vicissitude being an alien infection.

>>97487991
But that anon is correct. None of the inspiration for the original VtM were "street level soap opera", that includes the unhinged novels from VC.

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>>97488256
Well, the inspirations where a lot of stuff, including the Lost Boys and Alien.

>>97488311
Just more confirmation that VtM was always supposed to be horror on stereoids. The V5 revisionism doesn't hold up.
>Ayn Rand
Wtf lmao.

>>97488330
>Wtf
Did you read WW's books? Over exalted, any form of collectivism is seen as a moral failure, with enlightened self interest being the ultimate form of heroic virtue.

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>>97487944
I'll post mine later tonight for ya :^)

>>97488403
I would say that original vtm books are more in favor of voluntary collaboration than hyper individualism, the havel guy seems closer to what they stood up
>Within the system, every individual is trapped within a dense network of the state's governing instruments… themselves legitimated by a flexible but comprehensive ideology, a 'secularized religion'…it is therefore necessary to see, argued Havel, that power relations…are best described as a labyrinth of influence, repression, fear and self-censorship which swallows up everyone within it, at the very least by rendering them silent, stultified and marked by some undesirable prejudices of the powerful…[4]:273–4

>>97481817
Why are people still acting surprised that White Wolf are extremely liberal they have quite literally always been like this. If you're a chud and you want to play v5 just pirate their books and homebrew your own take on the setting

>>97488634
Rudi reads like a /pol/ parody. That's a problem, your earnest attempts at SocJus shouldn't be so fucking silly

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>>97488634
>Why are people still acting surprised that White Wolf are extremely liberal they have quite literally always been like this.
Not really

>>97488840
I don't think an edgy NPC proves your point.

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>>97476716
Why's Requiem out here catching strays? Especially when while it isn't doing so hot, 5e is still around raping the corpse of WoD?

>>97488840
>They weren't liberal because they made one of their bad guys a super evil nazi
?

>>97488875
Nta, feel free to post the equivalent of that picture for nu-wod. You won't because it doesn't exist.

>>97480551
>stealth turn based tactics just plain doesn't work as a genre
Why?

>>97488991
A Nazi villain? Just look at what they did to the Get of Fenris :^)

>>97489134
So you won't post it. Gotcha.

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>>97489153
I think he refers to this guy, who is a nazi but is not particularly depraved, just violent.

>>97487160
It takes less than five seconds of thought to realize that RPG books is a far smaller market than video games, and they are also much cheaper to make. You are not going to be able to fund a AAA video game off the back of TTRPG money.

>>97489314
Clearly is not just that, but when the sales are consistent usually clears the path to move forward with the video game.

>>97487996
Most people don't buy their books from LSG anymore, my dude, they buy it from Amazon or some other internet retailer. And V5 is on at least it's third printing from Renegade, and it's getting steady releases every year. Right now nuwhitewolf games are getting more support than d&d. It isn't well liked in this cesspit, but fucking /tg/ isn't representative of the entire hobby by a long shot, and books are obviously selling/people playing the game.
>Lgs have to keep the game in stock!
is such a boneheaded argument that I hope you're being disingenuous because being *that* stupid doesn't bode well for your future.

>>97477636
>general lack of atmosphere
How bad was it?

>>97488840
Bro we've been using female pronouns just because fuck you since the early 90s. VtM in particualr has always been queer as fuck. That character you're posting is queer as fuck. VtM very much in particular was for bi-curious teenagers to steal mommy's red-wine and use LARPing as an excuse to make out in the back of the performing arts center at highschool.

>>97488946
because requiemfags are insecure about their preferred game not being as popular as vtm.

>>97489471
I don't see what that has to do with Bloodlines 2 shitting the bed.

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>>97488424
Here, nigger

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>>97489381
>Bro we've been using female pronouns just because fuck you since the early 90s.
I know full well it was to attract goth chicks.

>VtM in particualr has always been queer as fuck.
The same way that Garth Ennis villains are bisexuals.

>>97489276
The guy was trying to defend V5, that's from requiem isn't it? V5 probably can't even into that.

>>97477524
Precisely no one was excited about it.

>>97489381
>i've always been a faggot, that means you were too because we both thought vampires were cool.

>>97487160
Be sure to call me let me know to take you out of involuntary psychiatric care when you've compared the size of the video game and rpg industries.

>>97476716
Let me guess? yellow paint game?

>>97489685
>nooo the game wasn’t full of fag shit because… because it just wasn’t, OKAY?!?

>>97489715
>game inextricably links psychotic, violent humanoid monsters with fags
>This was always a powerful endorsement of our people.

>>97488634
sjws aren't liberal, they are quite clearly collectivist. Why are you so retarded?

>>97487160
Just for reference the impact of white wold on paradoxes' revenue is so negligible that rpg publishing isn't even mentioned in the end of year report.
So much for all their top 100 steam games being funded by the sweat and tears of the rpg writers toiling away vampire the masquerade mines.

>>97489743
Shhhhhhh
It was dozen of millions of v5 copies sold funding da game

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>>97488960
There’s this weird thing culture warriors tend to do where they’ll show some cartoonishly evil Nazi villain or an edgy joke somewhere and take that as some sort of confirmation that the writers where actually “based” and not libshitters because they don’t understand nuance.

>>97489633
Is from W5

>>97487693
The problem is that Rudi's character writing is so smug and self-assured that it doesn't come across at all as a "flawed hero". It's pure dogshit
>>97487710
A broken clock can be right twice a day and all that

>>97488311
>Jung mentioned
Back when autistics actually ran the products instead of retarded leftists
>>97488330
Individualism is a big part of punk too

>>97489727
>Game has one such character
>Therefor it claims that that's how all gay people are!
Also what's with the greentexting instead of just saying what you have to say? You some kinda little bitch?

>>97490112
No, we weren't. "Back then?" Motherfucker I'm 45 jesus christ. I'm not dead.

>>97488330
Randian philosophy makes perfect sense for a vampire in the World of Darkness. Just because you’re referencing a book for the style of something doesn’t mean you’re behind all of its values 100%. Then again, a lot of the modern day Lolbertarians and Republicans who praise Rands work are more like the bad guys in Atlas Shrugged than John Galt.

>>97490157
Objectivism isn't philosophy and doesn't make sense in any world, anon. It just redefines self-interest to the point that every act becomes selfish tautologically. The Virtue of Selfishness is fucking trash and we snigger at it and its little cronies for a reason.

>>97490125
>Also what's with you using greentext the same way I'm using it and the way it's been used for several posts in this reply chain?
No one takes it seriously when someone who sucks cocks calls you a "little bitch." And I'll say what I have to say since you're too worm-ridden to any longer be capable of inference. Vampire is modern fantasy, and so they made fantastical the subcultures of their time. Fags and nazis were things that, to a normal person, others that existed on the periphery of society. I'm not trying to claim old vampire as "based," but claiming it was always some fag haven about queer safety is fake and gay.

You people live in the greatest era of fag acceptance there has ever been and you still claw for more.

>>97490128
wow you were 10 when vtm was first published in 1991? Sounds like you really had your finger on the pulse of liberal economic thought.
>>97490173
>We
Can't even criticize a ayn rand anonymously without imagining a crowd behind you, what a queer.

>>97490631
>>97490643
>ignorance and insults
You winnin' the culture war over there, little buddy?

>>97479690
>Naruto only did that once
Yes, and it was hilarious.
especially because the context was a guy who was explaining his past and did that for no reason.

>>97489699
Nope

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>>97476716
im surprised paradox didnt get to kill mage this time

Is Mage 5 still upcoming?

>>97491302
I don't think there's been any solid rumors about that, just assumptions

>>97491302
lol, lmao
paradox doesn't want to go anywhere near traditions vs technocracy, because of the mental hoops it would take to retcon it for a modern audience

>>97491330
kek

>>97491330
Oh, are Paradox going after the conservative right, now?

>>97491390
i wouldnt reply, its literally one of those bots going around with a paid 3rd world typist

>>97491398
Indistinguishable from the real thing, since these whiny fags' MO has been "no u"ing and coopting insults used against them over the past several years

>>97490173
>It just redefines self-interest to the point that every act becomes selfish tautologically.
Wow anon, too bad there aren't any factions in the game that fetishize self-interest to an inhuman degree.

>>97489669
>>97477524
They yoinked the game at the 11th hour then did a rewrite.
That killed what little hype there was.

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>>97476716
Paradox is big enough so that one bad year won't sink them. At most it might get them to sell WoD IP (and White Wolf).

>>97480183
Sorry amigo, this is no country for the old splats.

>>97491311
Enh. 4ed settled that well enough: some Technos are good and work with the Traddies, and some Technos are Eeeevil and work with otherdimensional horrors for their own advancement. Tradies are all good of course, having purged the three or four bad apples in their ranks during the end of the Ascension War. And I think there's actually still an audience for that.

The real problem with the game though is that the magic system requires a group to decide on things like HAP/HOP, then push players to really develop a paradigm for their character, then have a group willing to play a game about wizards and saints and mad scientists who slowly come to realize the things they believe give them power are all bullshit because "the power was in -you- all along".

But fuck, this is a game that never could decide if creating a gun in your pocket was Coincidental or Vulgar Without Witness, but it sure as shit knew you needed 5 spheres to do something to a vampire. Meanwhile it uses the Storyteller ("just max out Dexterity") System, which comes with its own baggage and problems.

>>97491311
they would never made werewolf either

>>97491410
I know and you're right. I just can't help sperging about Rand. Every straight, white male philosophy-degree-holder went through a period in his sophmore or junior year of undergrad where we got suckered into that stupid bullshit and we all resent it.

>>97476716
How many Crusader Kings DLCs will they have to crank out to make up for the loss?

>>97493673
Source?

Can't you people keep your /Pol/shit garbabe in your fucking board for once?

>>97493768
>I can think and read
Ask your AI buddy to give you a literacy test and post the results, then.

>>97478739
That's only a thing for personal living spaces.
Public areas? Fair game. Threshold limits are more common in folklore than just vampires.

>>97493801
You just made that up its not in your sources.

>>97489541
it isn't relevant, it's just a popular past time to rattle their cage

>The thread turns into a /Pol/ shit show about vaccines
that was random

>>97493801
it's well established in the sources
You mean the AI summary you requested?

>>97490631

They're only exotic to you because you don't leave your house. If you were active in the punk scene back in the day these people were all around.

>>97493878
>they made fantastical the subcultures of their time
Yeah, they were all around the punk scene which was a huge inspiration for the game makers. Note where the post says "to a normal person."

>>97493932
>me and my fag friends all liked it, so it was made for us

>>97493945
It was. We were there. That's how it is. Getting angry and posting misinformation on the internet won't change facts. Learn if you want, but greentexts and "arguments" you try to create on 4chan are completely irrelevant to reality, anon.

>>97493975

Not an argument against me, bot.

>>97493977
Projection

>>97494013
We're entitled to higher-effort trolling than what you're giving us.

>>97494023

Trolling would presume I'm being disingenuous.

>>97494031
Well you clearly are

>>97493878
>>97493977
Why are you namefagging?

>>97494053

Too lazy to change it back.

>>97494053
Hes used to reddit please understand

>>97494013
and then everybody claps when you tell them off yahyah

>>97493945
are you really still pretending White Wolf wasn't proto-woke because of a single vampire NPC?

>>97494093
Your retarded conspiracy theories would make a decent VtM Pentex chronicle. Are they good, are they evil, are they evil in the right way that's good for vampires? It'd be fun.

Reminder that Pentex as detailed in the books is a thousand times less evil than the Pentex analogues we have IRL.

>>97494103

I don't have to tell them off, their own anxiety usually solves that problem.

>>97494160
I deserve better trolls than this trash.

>>97493524
Such as? The way I see things, top 3 potential buyers woulde be WotC, Onyx Path and EA, each of which is somehow equally bad or even worse.

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>>97490890
Oh look I was right

>>97495983
If you have something to say anon, you're free to type it. But I have no interest in your collection of pictures from the internet, sorry.

>>97495995
yes but me and my gay friends liked vampires, so this game was made for us actually

>>97495995
Jesus the projection.

>>97496011
>complains about image responses
>complains about effort responses
Seems like you just want to shit everything up.

>>97496024
It's a list of claims about what the political beliefs of the employees of a company in the 90s that published TTRPGs were. They published TTRPGs. Not manifestos. If you're going to sit there and claim that they take hyperspecific political stances as a company, then you're going to have to have political publications from them. Which you don't because they published TTRPGs. You made it all up based on the inferences you WANTED to draw. That's proejction, anon.

>>97496032
The writers were individual artists you fucking retard. That anon cited examples from the setting for every single one of his points. You seem to have no argument against what he said being true which is why you've opted for the smarmy faggot route.

>>97496032
>>97495983

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>>97481817
Every Queen deserves a King.

>>97496032
Do Trench Crusade next, little bro.

>>97495964
Where's the yellow paint?

>>97496025
Stop sexually mutilating children.

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>>97477636
>general lack of atmosphere
Meh. It's certainly far from the special atmosphere of VTMB1, but I wouldn't call that it has none.

The general feeling of a rare, intense snowstorm hitting Seattle turning it into a winter wonderland, with the radio warning residents to stay inside and while all this is happening does give a comfy vibe - at the very least if you play the game during late autumn/winter.

>>97496778
I think the problem is that the game is ugly. You'd think that after twenty years this game would look twenty times better than its predecessor, but it has bad style and looks generic.

>>97493977
>Pro-pedophile
>4chan
????

>>97476716
Video games have their own board.

>>97497157
So do posts like yours.
>>>/lgbt/

>>97497008
yeah, we have pedophiles and people who hate pedophiles here, but we don't have anyone who likes pedophiles

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why was my post talking about wta tribes caught in the deletion crossfire
lol lmao

>>97493840
>>97492620
but would the traditions be pro or anti publically mandated technocracy syringe injections

>>97497470
It's difficult to say. Mage the Ascension was originally intended as a thoroughly anti-establishment game, that puts a return to spirituality and tradition on a pedestal and spites the soullessness of the establishment and its secular modernity. However, a return to spirituality and tradition is the foundation on which the 'new' establishment is being built throughout the world. Mage the Ascension needs thorough rewriting in order to make sense in the current decade and not feel terribly outdated, with some Traditions and Conventions falling out of favour and others rising to prominence, and some maybe even switching sides.

>>97497449
>this kills the dishonest spammers
How and why?

>>97492620
I play WoD and Storyteller-derived homebrew shit but infrequently and without attempts to break the system, same goes for the people I play it with. Just, never really bothered with minmaxing, because it's an RPG, I'm playing it to play a Toreador slug of a man or whatever, not roll big dice. Is maxing Dex actually just the thing to go for, for combat?

>>97491799
To be fair to Paradox, they've replaced the devs because after several delays, all they produced by spring of the year the game was meant to come out in the autumn of was 'a good foundation' for a game. Meaning, fuck-all. It was either yoinking or waiting five more years.

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>>97488634
>If you're a chud and you want to play
there is another way

Seeing leftists act disingenuously, get called out on it, and then have a melty will never get old. Doesn’t matter which board it happens on, it’s endless amusement.

still waiting on the fag OP to reply to the character sheet posted ITT

>>97498820
why are you still shilling this? everybody knows it isn't any good

>>97488960
Rudi
>His description is mostly about being a super liberal. Very little actually involves kindred.
>Triple word score sacred cow: gay black Islamic. Somehow, defends women when the sight of them probably should give him hives.
>Somehow, is living the exact same life with the same friends without murdering them or violating the masquerade.
>Is too nice. So nice princess are afraid he might lead a niceness revolution and make everyone be nice.
Its obvious the writer is trying to make a grounded character but without flaws. There is no negatives here which is a problem because being a kindred is mostly a negative thing for your character.

Doctor Von Hell Lesbian
>Chariacture. Very exaggerated
>lots of her description is about being sabot and kindred and its workings.
>Description accurately portrays someone who has to kill or at least drink most of the blood of one or more people every night.
>Is accurately described as an insane monster and why he she is a monster and the violence or her sadism and ambition.

I get that Lebershwitz os obviously an enemy NPC and Rudi is clearly a GMPC but its clear that one writer wasn't afraid to say naughty things while the other is too petrified to offend someone or does not know how to write characters.

>>97489699
More Witcher sense and open world.

>>97498214
I think a line like "His path has gotten his ass kicked plenty of times but he keeps trying to make Garou see reason."

>>97499572
>>97499572
Exactly, compare an older edition's Ventrue signature character, Jan Pieterzoon; a potentially-helpful major figure for a chronicle who also has a particularly repellent feeding requirement and one of the most infamous lore incidents in oWoD

>>97499572
I don't like this type of cherrypicking, because usually the best way to actually make an analysis worth anything its to make a sample of a bunch of NPCs from similar places. The Doctor is from the Tzimitze Clan Book, not the generic city neonate NPC sample. They're not coming from comparable books.

>>97500371
qrd? where does this guy appears?

>>97497449
>and I had already discussed wanting to make sure things like Crinos in headdresses didn’t appear in the book (as had often happened in previous editions, particularly on a certain white-skinned character whose name rhymes with Steals-the-Past).
Reminder that he wasn't woke enough for W5, chud

>>97476716
Nobody won. We all lost

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>>97500543
From the wiki, but I think they've forgotten a few

>>97476716
YES!!!
LET THESE FUCKERS BURN TO THE GROUND! I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THEM SUCKING TRANNY DICK UNDER THE OVERPASS FOR SPARE CHANGE BY THE END IF THE YEAR!!!!

>>97488634
No.
Modern liberals are entirely different beasts than their 90s counterparts.

>>97497858
the pendulum has been forced to stop midway for nearly a decade now so its a 50/50, because the study of social power has progressed enough to the point where every actor knows the advantages of being perceived as an underdog, even if its performative

>>97497379
Kek

>>97497449
What?

>>97477524
same

>>97476716
none of nwod was even given a chance and only lost by being starved on the vine. every other line except vtm lost because they made earthblood and action/stealth game instead of an rpg. vtm lost because they made a game wholly unlike the last game and made waffling excuses for why they didn't try
in short all of the world of darkness lost

>>97498820
QRD?

>>97490951
Why do rightoids post this after we catch them pretending not to understand how things work?
Is projection the only thing you have?

>>97513633
>n-no u!
>WE
lol

>>97488634
Anyone surprised about white wolf being liberal is a foreign invader here more for politics than playing the game.
White wolf people are faggy theatre kids. This is known.

>>97488634
or just take the best aspects of 20th anniversary and the previous versions like how everyone else who doesn't solely play VTM runs the game???

>>97488840
>They weren't liberal because Nazis were portrayed as literal inhuman monsters.
Hmmm....

>>97513665
That's a stupid argument, nobody is surprised, they're criticizing the quality of the product.
Just because they're leftists doesn't mean people don't have the right to criticize their woke crap.

>>97514869
read this
>>97490951

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>>97515126
>subnormal anti woke bros have come full circle and adopted the post-modern cry "no, I'm not wrong, you just don't understand it!"
Yeah bro, your twitter posts complaining about pop culture are just too intellectually advanced.

>>97507677
>none of nwod was even given a chance and only lost by being starved on the vine.
Dubs of holy truth.