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This was posted by Sandy Petersen, the creator of Call of Cthulhu. It is wacky to imagine that this might (low chance, but non-zero) have happened in a Call of Cthulhu game.
https://twitter.com/SandyofCthulhu/status/2018802600347328608
How would you have defeated this trap?
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>>97496360
>I also have third safer those above, but will reserve it for my personal use.
What, did he believe he was going to encounter his ingenious whipped cream trap in other games now that he shared it with the world?
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>>97496533
as obnoxious as
>I made a puzzle with a specific solution, if you don't do my precise thing it won't work even if it should.
followed by
>Why did we get nothing done today? Must have been that 5 minutes of talking you did, not the tedious hour spent on my clever puzzles
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Fuck's sake, Sandy.
>10foot pole thwacking around until you hit something soft
>same for 10 ft ladder, but much easier to climb out
>filling with water (somehow) so the trapped PC can swim, gains an air pocket (the water will cut a passage through the whip for a second)
>pipes and bellows to blow the whip out of the hole?
>casting Mount over the hole; a fully grown horse splashes the whip out of the way, cancel the following round, trapped PC will be unhappy but alive
>as above but with an inflated tent (but requires more time) and someone "rides" the balloon down
>if high enough level, prop open a Bag of Holding and lower it with a weight attached for ballast
>crossing the streams (works for marshmallows)
>punching the GM in the face for suggesting we buy 'Gnomish Silly Straws - Extra Long' at the last town
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>>97496584
Ah, yes. Then everyone's favorite:
>you bypassed my bullshit no-win situation in a way that I didn't account for when suddenly something else makes things WORSE...be-because! It just does, okay?!
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>>97496575
>preferably without the inflation fetishism
But that's the best part!
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>>97496693
Would you prefer original Animation?
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>>97496722
They must have upped the budget
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>>97496830
>Don't know much about it but I thought it was more willy wonka
Blood in the Chocolate is a bad dungeon module for Lamentations of the Flame Princess that takes the premise of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and tries to use it for ham-fished social commentary.
As it is also a "Psycho-sexual romp" it poorly apes the fetish aspects of the whimsical confectionary factory in a manner most fetishes aren't comfortable with.
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OK, but why whipped cream? Is there literally no other substance that would work? Like I dunno, opaque sludge, ooze, or some sort of oil. Why would a dungeon have a pit full of whipped cream?
That's retarded.
Also
>most deadly trap
>kills only one person
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>>97497601
If we're talking specifically death by condiments, there's this infamous mishap.
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>>97496360
>whipped "cream"
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>>97496422
In a cool environment such as you'd expect in a dungeon that could take hours. In my fridge whipped cream easily lasts a week though it forms a thin crust. If sealed it takes much longer to go. This is cream I have whipped myself from a bottle of pure cream, no stabilising chemicals.
>>97496360
To defeat the trap, find traps and pits. A trap you avoid is normally a trap you have defeated, unless it existed to lead you to a bigger trap or an ambush.
If already caught, levitate the cream. Unseen servant to clean. Fireball it. Incendiary cloud.
Heat metal will give a few rounds of heat to destabilise the foam. As a foam there is a large volume change reducing to 40 to 50% of its whipped volume. The warmed liquid cream will rapidly sink to the bottom destabilising more of the foam on the way. If cast on a spear or polearm and thrust under the surface, voids formed will collapse under the cream's own weight as it's not mechanically strong. Lit torches will do the same.
Control temperature could also heat the cream by, for a minimum 6th level druid to cast the 4th level spell, 30 degrees Celsius. Assuming a cool 10 deg C starting temp which is the maximum you'd expect to keep the foam stable, that's a final temp of 40 deg. Cream foam starts to liquefy at less than 35 deg. At 40 deg the foam will completely destabilise in less than 10 minutes and will have undergone significant volume change in less than 4 minutes. The issue would be how fast the DM lets the air, which is what I assume is heated, transfer heat to the cream. Not sure people can easily float in cream.
Easier might be pouring lamp oil on the whipped cream. This should immediately destabilise the foam. I'm assuming it'd still be extremely flammable so igniting it could further melt the foam. I only had kerosene which is a bit like lamp oil. I'm not prepared to test enough of it to see if it can form a channel to let air in. Anyway burnt cream stinks worse than burnt milk.
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>>97496360
>How would you have defeated this trap?
Well, whipped cream is only about half the density of water. The whipped cream two feet down has an entire kilogram of weight compressing it, so i think at that depth it would collapse back into high fat cream and behave as a normal liquid equivalent to water. If it's magic or whipped with a lifting gas or something, then i would just tie a rope to my weapon and throw it in. My weapon is almost certainly dense enough to collapse the cream, and any that arent are polearms where i could just reach in.
All that assumes i dont have a 10ft pole or chain, which is usually default dungeoneering equipment.
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>>97497624
I was gonna post that a molasses trap is significantly harder to thwart and has historical precedent
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>>97496360
I like Sandy. I read some of his works and watched few videos with him on conventions. He seems like a bit of an ass, but fun to hang around.
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>>97503355
Somewhat true in this case, this is clearly a case of a DM's obnoxious power fantasy of making some 200 IQ trap that none of his peasant players will get to solve because he can think up any excuse as to why any solution won't work before they die.
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>>97498056
>Fall into the Cream of Doom
>Entire body flattens cream
>Standing at the bottom of a creamy equivalent to a sand trap
>"Throw me a rope."
>"Got no rope."
>"Guess I'll die."
I feel the cream trap is not as powerful as presented. Collapsing the cream is so easy that it'd be hard to avoid doing accidentally.
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>>97496708
Did someone say... CARNEVALE???
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>>97504943
>Have you actually watched any of his videos?
About 600 of them, maybe having skipped some Temple and Arcanum videos.
>I subscribed when he posted the first one and was ready to really like the guy and had probably unsubscribed by the third.
So you watched the channel introduction, the pick a topic one and bounced off when he talked about Lord of Light being his favorite novel. Okay.
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>>97496360
spider climb, levitate, summon monster, fly, gaseous form, stone shape, dimension door, teleport, passwall, contingency, shadow walk, phase door, plane shift, ethereal jaunt, reverse gravity, telekinetic sphere, astral projection, etherealness, shapechange
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>>97505007
We have such sights to show you...
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>>97505185
One man's cautionary tale is somebody else's fetish.
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>>97508511
Because the GM was being a shitbag on purpose. I'd bet the players tried all manner of things that would realistically work just fine and he bullshit a reason it wouldn't work because he wanted his 'cool zany new trap' to get a PC kill.