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Welcome to the First Decade General, the thread dedicated to first-decade, Gygaxian AD&D 1st Edition, Gygaxian 0th Edition, Macrisian ACKS, and content created for use with them. Later editions (2e,Basic, retroclones and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.
Broadly, BroSR games encourage a tonal and mechanical fidelity to the one true way to play Dungeons & Dragons, played as intended by its creators from 1974 to 1983 — less emphasis on linear adventures and overarching metaplots and a greater emphasis on player agency.
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>>97473611
>Thread Question:
What is your favorite first decade adventure module? How do you run it to ensure it's by the book?
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>>97502613
I'm glad we came to a common consensus about this.
>favorite first decade module
I usually just force the Ghost of Gary (pbuh) to write me a brand new adventure every time I play. Anything to be out of Hell even for a minute, he says.
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>>97502663
they keep screaming about FOE material. post first decade material.
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Wow, from reacting to 2e-faggotry to ACKS advert-thread.
There's no need or reason to have that random retro-cloner dude next to names like Gygax. Just buy an ad, instead.
Can't we get a proper OSR gygaxian/arneosnian thread at all?
>(2e,Basic, retroclones and newer) should be discussed elsewhere.
Macrisian ACKS
Fucking faggots. But at least I'm glad that this marketing scheme showed its true face. Good riddance. Fuck 2e fag, and fuck ACK fanboys, too.
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>>97502668
>advert-thread
You mean containment thread.
Still no idea why BROSR give ACKS a pass though. Even that Jeffero guy, who is as hyper-traditionalist as a BROSR can be, went on a limb to say "you know that non-tradionalist b/x clone that has feats like Weapon Focus and Weapon Finesse? That's super trad and only real chads like me play it."
I don't want to say it's justpolitics, but I think it might be.
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>>97502668
>fuck ACK fanboys, too
They are pretty repulsive. But if they need a thread to argue over their character builds and discuss the best way to stack their spreadsheet piles, that's what the /fdg/ is for. Though, it is kind of funny that acks wasn't made in the first decade, but who's counting anyway?
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>>97502694
We BrOSR love ACKS because it understands that RPGs are serious business. We're here to maintain tonal and mechanical fidelity, not to have fun. And ACKS is about rules and procedures for everything. For an Alignment, if something like Morkborg is Chaotic and something like AD&D is Lawful, ACKS is just a little past Hitler but not quite Mecha-Hitler yet.
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>>97502668
>arneosnian
arnesonian gameplay is nothing at all like gygaxian gameplay, you can't invoke both of them without talking about completely different things. Gygaxian gameplay is more in line with OSR while Arnesonian is characterized by open worlds, theater faggotry, and rulings based on vibes.
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I have a suggestion / question for you guys then.
now, personally, I am an ADnD nut, i found 3.5 and 5e to be well, wierd, and oddly constrained.
BUT, as this seems to be about gaming of a certain era, may i suggest the Sword World games, as they 'play' very much like Anime of the 80's. and very much fit the whole 'player agency' of this schtick.
with the whole 'pick your own quest' from the guild schtick, player groups can avoid the whole 'you must go out to defeat the demon lord reeeeeeeee' etc. and since it IS weeb as fuck, the mechanics DO very much support
>nah fuck that shit, I'm going to go be a farmer in the countryside and we're building a house and shit instead
thanks to NON combat classes for professions and shit. again, REALLY like playing old school rpg's or watching old school anime.
so IF this general is legitimate, a topic of protracted, multi-thread discussion COULD be whether to include sword world etc. (especially since english translations and such are now available for everything[almost])
so, please consider DnD (og) , but weeb edition.
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secondly. here me out. now ADnD had rules for all sorts of cool spelljammer shit, gamma world conversions etc.
MAY I also suggest, but again, probably NOT for inclusion here, IF you are after more OG play, consider Star Trek Adventures 1e, for despite being a much newer game, its player agency, combined with the 'episodic' nature of campaign play, allow you as a player group to construct endless seasons of OG trek and tNG of the '70s and '80s in any way you feel free. the use of 'b plot' and/or even 'c plot' if you (for example) use a random mission brief from the shipyards book (blaaaarg! the fizzbanger on the warp core has gone Kersproing! oh no! your ship is left to drift in deep space until it is repaired!)
allows you massive leniency in player agency.
SO, if you WANT a break from western DnD, consider WEEBmode. or consider
DnD ... IIiiiiiiinnnnn ssssssssSPPPPPAAAAAAACCCCEEEEE !!!
I feel anyone who likes OG DnD will find STA a great way to trek out.
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>>97503107
this is a thread for OSR games, specifically the first decade of D&D, or Gygaxian D&D. your discussion belongs in the NuSR general
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>>97502613
Upon hearing about the bros I (during a time in my life with more free time) listened to a podcast or two that had him as a guest. I was prepared (or so I though), he was well known for his performative kayfabe so I expected aggrandisement and comically harsh critism of which he may believe but not to the degree he is professing. After 90 minutes of listening to the shit dribbling out of his mouth, with ne'er more than a few sentences from his host, I realised there was no kayfabe, there was no trve adnd run by the book. There was only a fucking moron who confused being rude with being a professional actor.
There is no hope for the bros. Even your own idol has abandoned you.
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if OSR is the archaeological study and reconstruction of Gygaxian D&D, I consider ACKS to be the ultimate culmination of all of that study. by its quality and adherence to Gygaxian values alone, it does belong in any discussion of the OSR. That is not up to debate
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>>97503245
Can you specify exactly what you mean by "seduction" rolls? Because what I see is using a reaction roll to see if seduction works.
So is your issue with using reaction rolls, or with allowing a player to try and seduce an npc?
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>>97503264
>nonsense, rolling to seduce is an OSR staple.
surely you will have no issues pointing it out in all first decade rulebooks then? if it's a genre staple, surely it must be in all rulebooks?
no?
how about 2?
no?
how about 1