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>TQ
Cradle, any other indie JP TCGs or standalone dueling card games. I don't have the time to signal boost or translate, and it's a pretty narrow niche so hidden they will remain.
Except for Trinity Draft. We need that shit in English and I might start boosting that with every post.

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>>97829548
It's time to try the TTS mod

Alpha Clash should have had a life cloth system, its too easy to win games with numerical lifepoints

>>97829277
Failure to link the threads again. Why is it that the rangers fag can pull it off but the rest of you surly lot are worthless?

>>97830369
Suck a dick femboy

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>>97830369
>rangers fag

>>97830369
Everyone applauds your effort to be here in time to talk shit, but not early enough to link the threads yourself

>inb4 a post with a fake newbie question which he'll respond to avoid off-topic reports and mass reply to continue ranting

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I hear card draw can be OP

I bought a few packs of union arena, the nikkie version, not enough cheesecake for me.
Might try a few packs of gundam, idk, I'm just a guy who buys cards randomly to scratch the itch of opening packs.

>>97830969
Buy Goddess Story boxes.

>>97830777
can be. usually only in games with very restrictive card economy though.

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>>97830688
When I make a thread it's done correctly. Sorry you're a huge fuck-up that can't follow simple instruction.

You know when the thread stops bumping it's time to speak up and request a bake, right? Not holding your breath until it sinks to page 10. You don't even have to bake right away, just say something. It's literally that simple.

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>>97831220
You had nearly 12h to make a thread as it sailed over pages 6-10 overnight, when I woke up I made the last post and then realized the thread was dead so I made this general.
>offtopic shitstirring stolen valor fuckfabbie
Can't and won't name the card in the OP or even bother to correct his mistakes even once.

>>97829875
do you recommend the game? how do you find people to play it?

>>97831270
>Can't and won't name the card in the OP or even bother to correct his mistakes even once.
I'm sorry but what even is your point here?

>>97831302
>can't even identify a card game by its art
Go post to elf thread you fucking poser. Or complain to someone who gives a fuck.

>>97831649
Holy schizo.

>*unprompted* I BET YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS OP IS AND YOU DIDN'T REALIZE SOMETHING WAS WRONG!
>what?
>GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IF YOU DON'T KNOW FAGGOT

Are you always this obtuse when you admit to wrong doing while lashing out at others?

>>97831275
nta, but I think anon in the last thread said it well: a very polished magic clone/ offshoot. if you like those kind of games like mtg or fow or duelma then you will prob give the gameplay 10/10

>>97830369
Why do you need a link? Just search the catalog for acg you primadonna faggot.

>>97831275
Nta but alpha clash is very high quality magic clone. Problem is it has very low support, no stores in the ~10 within 20 miles of me. If there was, I'd play it in a heartbeat.

Instead I'm playing Riftbound and Lorcana, and recently pokemon because I have a 5 y/o that caught the bug.

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So it's Netrunner but worse, with artwork designed by troons? What's the appeal?

>>97832655
Why don't you pick up a print and play deck before you say that about nisei?
>https://nullsignal.games/

>>97830777
Not in Ashes, funnily enough

>>97832764
I was talking about Hubworld: Aidalon, but yes nuRunner also has artwork designed by troons.

>>97832655
The Demo Decks didnt really have much of a game there but they are promising

>>97832655
>artwork designed by troons
Netrunner?

>>97833035
He's just madly in love with transsexuals. There's no other reason he'd bring them up unprompted.

>>97830777
>>97832899
it's not in games that already give you a lot of cards.
the "default" is magic and other draw 1 per turn games. they give you way fewer cards than you can use, so draw is very valuable. If a game lets you draw 2 per turn then draw is only half as good.

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>Final Fantasy TCG
Is there any place one can try this game online?
I'm interested in trying it out, but as its so niche in the west, I'd like to know if I find it enjoyable before spending money on it.

>>97832655
aidolon is the next altered

>>97833167
OCTGN. I see people playing on there. I'm new too, luckily I have a store nearby where some people play. Game looks pretty fun

>>97833322
I'll take a look. Never used it before. Thanks.
There is an LGS somewhat near me that sells the game, but I'm not sure if it has regular players or not. I'll have to look.

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EBG did show off some new cards recently, probably will a lot more as we get close to the release of Hubworld Aidalon. These three are particularly not fun to play against, but will be much fun for the Seeker that specs into thievery. Cool to see an agent that can actually defend itself after being revealed. It will be difficult to keep the 6 mandatory cost to eliminate her, but with the bleeding purse trick or a surprise obstacle, stealing could become impossible for them to afford it.

These all seem really strong for limited. I see a lot of decks splashing for purple just to get access to the good counters. The strongest pairing might end up being Orange/Purple, but we'll have to see the rest of the cardpool to be certain of that.

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>>97833793
Already got these not too long back. The mobility is going to be a strong defense in its own right.

>>97833793
who stole Linza's tits?

>>97832629
I should give riftbound another chance

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Behold! It is I! The sole Star Wars Unlimited player on /acg/!

Is union arena fun to play? I like the idea of pitting anime vs anime like a shonen arena fighter, and somebody at the shop told me Evangelion was a pretty good set so I was thinking about giving it a shot.

>>97829548
Apparently they're doing a 1v1 beta for this?

>>97834420
The beta part is just that they want you to remove a few cards from the draft pool because their effects don't make sense with only 2 players. Maybe they'll eventually give those cards new effects for 1v1s.

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>>97834289

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For me it's Redemption

>>97833793
>>97833851
I think everything shown so far is up here https://decksmith.app/hubworldaidalon/cards
lots of them were just beta cards though for testing so they could change

>>97833229
those two games have almost nothing in common beyond a crowdfunded launch.
wouldnt make much sense.

>>97834559
>all the top meta decks are demons
Kinda sussy.

>>97834806
NFTendie is desperate to get others to agree that QR codes aren't fuck ugly and ruined any possible chance of that "game" (I've yet to see a single person ever play it) ever having a positive public reception.

>>97834289
The artwork is such a turnoff

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>>97830777
>>97832899
cards cost what they cost because of other aspects of the game. if the game makes players hungry for more cards then getting more cards will be "OP" (or expensive, if its balanced). like >>97833096 in mtg you only get 1 card per turn when you could easily use 3 or more, so draw is extremely valuable. if one deck could just draw more they would prettymuch always win.

in games that just give you more draw, or some equivalent like SWU, draw tends to be less good. in netrunner you can draw up to 4 per turn with no help so things like Diesel can exist and be balanced. Ashes is at the extreme end where you usually cant use everything you draw after round 1, and you will see most of your deck, so both draw and tutoring are on the weaker side.
piccy is some exampls of cards that look similar (one shot pay X to draw 3) but are very different valuation because of the system theyre in.

>>97834922
no altered was a stupid shit cashgrab TCG with phygital dick cheese. basically just last year's version of riftbound or cyberpunk, but using a gimmick as the hype generator instead of a B-tier IP.
hubworld is a niche LCG with an original setting that probably wont even be sold in stores. there about as far apart as any two acg games could be.

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>>97834289
>>97834977
I do find it hilarious that the rebel pilot in the background is getting the full Mike Wazowski treatment.

Oh, and by the way, I'm the sole Lorcana player. Could ya tell?

>>97835098
I also play lorcana, though the post-rotation meta was almost immediately stale. I didn't add a single card to my BG Control deck with the latest set.

>>97835114
Huh. That's funny. You'd think that the rotation would almost force you to adapt a bit. Me, I don't chase the meta, I just have fun with whatever they put out, even if it means I don't win much. Not trying to be snooty or anything, it just sounds like we enjoy the game differently.

>>97834922
I played a few games of Altered and I liked it for the most part, it had interesting decision trees going on. If anything maybe the problem with gameplay was just how much you had to see every turn (cards to put into the mana zone, what to keep in the reserve, lane to play your cards, bunch of tokens to manage, three stats on each card to keep track of)

It just had some really stupid concepts like the uniques or the QR codes uglying up the designs

Also didn't really like how the character design felt straight out of 2010s Tumblr

>>97835132
Well yes, rotation killed all the prior meta decks. But the same decks have been played with minor adjustments in all three sets so far - blurple, dogs, purple/Steel, and Blue/Green control being the top decks in each format.

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>>97834803
not sure how often they update this, but for the longest time it had the old Informant nerf. Thankfully it seems like the dev team has came back around on him actually being pretty important to blue as was.

>>97834922
tilting at windmills here anon.
nobody's defending altered. it was stupid while it was alive and now it's dead. and it's not going to get a loving fan continuation because it sucked.

what’s the sexiest card game?

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>>97835624
You mean, besides Aidalon?

>>97835624
Little Troubles

>>97834363
If you don't mind winning/losing games because of luck. Yes, it is

>>97835114
faggot
>>97835132
based

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>>97835624
The Spoils

>lgs starts carrying sorcery after a long time of being reluctant to do so as an experiment to gauge interest
>wasn't going to get into it into until i could buy from an lgs
>gothic starter decks are a $30 markup over tcgplayer price
what the fuck man

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Triumph of the Will > Force of Will

>>97835624
Z/X

>>97829277
I'm wondering if spending my money going to OP15 Pre-release tourney is worth it.. 6 booster packs for about $41, so far that price was good last week.. But now every card dropped AT LEAST $5 because they're more widely available.

I'm unsure about actually making back the money I spend with those boosters. Though there's prizes for the top 4, I wonder if I could make it there.

>>97835749
Hey now, there's space for all types of players. There's nothing wrong with him following the meta. His methods are just as valid, if not more.

>>97835693
fair

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Went 3-1 at my store's prerelease for OP15 today.
Got this alt Luffy leader from my packs so pretty happy overall.

>>97834289
What deck do you play?

>>97836556
I want to like OP, but I fucking hate how Bandai handles power creep in a game that has rotation...

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>>97836606
Dedra. She fun.

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>>97836890

>>97836556
>>97836666
I just hate that the game is so simple that there's not much you can do to outplay or outperform your shit matchups, if you just play against a deck that is favored against you, you just kind of have to pray they draw like shit.

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>>97836666
Yeah, it's been pretty extreme ever since OP13, and Bandai definitely wants people to swap to a new deck every expansion.
I decided to just ignore that and do my best to push my Carrot deck instead. Been doing really well with it lately, with multiple wins or X-1 finishes at my locals.
Would definitely love for Bandai to print her another searcher though, as that would make her so much better.

>>97836990
>it's been pretty extreme ever since OP13
I wouldn't mind if they power-creeped ONLY in OP13 and used it as a baseline going foward because it's the first anniversary set after rotation afaik
>Bandai definitely wants people to swap to a new deck every expansion
Which doesn't make any sense. For fucks sake, this is a game with rotation. OP is going to sell even without power creep
>I decided to just ignore that and do my best to push my Carrot deck instead. Been doing really well with it lately, with multiple wins or X-1
You are fucking based

>>97835624
Z/X or Vanguard its female units are brain frying

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My deck for pre release.

I think I got all the best stuff in, only the purple Enel events and 7c blue Sabo event got left out.

>>97838158
Seems like a pretty solid list for it, yeah.
You've got Holly, Fuza and Zeff which were the strongest commons for it.

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I've been trying to come up with ideas for a Boost-themed Lorcana deck for a while, and this is what I've got so far:

4 Graveyard of Christmas Future - Lonely Resting Place
4 Hercules - Spectral Demigod
4 Jiminy Cricket - Ghost of Christmas Past
4 Kristoff - Mining the Ruins
3 Liquidator - Iced Over
4 Mickey Mouse - Bob Cratchit
3 Mickey Mouse - Brave Little Prince
4 Morty Fieldmouse - Tiny Tim
4 Mulan - Standing Her Ground
4 Pete - Ghost of Christmas Future
4 Roo - Little Helper
4 Scrooge McDuck - Reformed Ebenezer
4 Scrooge's Counting House - Ebenezer's Office
2 Tamatoa - Seeker of Shine
2 Visiting Christmas Past
2 Wreck-it Ralph - Raging Wrecker
4 Scrooge McDuck - Ghostly Ebenezer

It'll probably need some tweaking after testing, but is there anything you'd change?

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>>97834289
Bear witness, I'm one of like two or three HoloOCG players in /acg/. One of the LGS I play at holds SWU events the time as our events so the store ends up having a weeb corner and a Sci-Fi corner. I like peeking over at what's going on between games.

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>>97838351
Based. My store runs Gundam alongside us so I always go and check out their art between rounds.

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ZAFT bois

>>97838351
>picrel
sex

>>97833793
lmao these seems absolute aids for constructed, wtf were they thinking

>>97838883
I dunno, it has been a long time since we really started to see some of the teeth that the game has to offer. Purple was always my pick for "most pain in the ass to deal with." I have a feeling that every color gets some nice toys though. Netrunner had its run of bullshit cards to have to play around.

>>97839046
For sure but from my experience credit draining effects are way too NPE and turn off casual players more than damage does (And are kind of ridiculously NPE when put onto ID text)

At least one of those is an agent, I think having something like that on an agent is fine, the condition of having less money on the ID is kind of interesting but considering you can never have more than 10 credits anyway doesnt seem hard

>>97839046
>>97839059
Oh and comparing this ID to the others we've seen is hilarious because this seems WAY WAY stronger and is purple which I thought seemed IMBA outside of the shit ID

>>97839059
>>97839063
Yeah by comparison some of the starting IDs were really tame in comparison. I'm hopeful that will start to improve with more expansions, but I could do with more leader variety in general.

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>>97838351
>Go into LGS
>See Grand Archive on shelf
>Art looks nice
>Ask about the game.
>"Yeah its fun but some of the designs are... kinda creepy? But if you can get over that..."
These people are annoying. I wish my stores had a "weeb corner"
The game might be amazing, it might be terrible, but this attitude in general is obnoxious. If I asked about the game, and can see some of the display art, I'm probably not fucking bothered by it and don't need this weird sort of justification.
anyway /blog

>>97839081
Retards are going to be retards, anon. They don't realize they are autistic nerds too

>>97839081
>"err, yeah, the art is attractive, but I have to pretend to be weirded out by it..."
I absolutely despise that shit.

>>97838158
After selling the good stuff, today I made a net positive of $15. Yay? Some poor bastard probably didn't even cover half the entry fee, at least I wasn't him and I had fun.

People are just too skilled for me to win top 4. I swear my deck was the strongest and I always lost without realizing it, suddenly the enemy is full of attackers and I have no Blockers

>stack florian sitting with lethal on board for three turns not attacking
Why are they like this

>>97839224
>have to pretend to be weirded out
Believe it or not people can be weirded out by different things, no even needing to pretend even

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>>97839259
Ooooh weird booooobs

>>97839259
If you're that weirded out about it, don't fucking sell it. Way better than acting like a goddamn faggot about it. Simple as. Now go fucking kill yourself.

>>97839273
>picrel
sex

No, seriously, pay attention. I have several LGS, and it's real fucking simple - if you don't like the sexual overtones of a product, don't sell it. It's really that fucking easy. I don't need your fake fucking outrage over me buying something you're selling. Stab yourself in the fucking throat and jump off a cliff while you're bleeding out. Your mother sucks cocks in this life and the next. Put a stamp on that shit and certify it.
Fuck you.

>>97839296
A little harsh, but I trvke.

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>>97839330
I was perhaps being a bit too mean, but I've been drinking, and I get a bit aggressive. My sentiment remains accurate regardless, though.
Love you all. <3

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>>97839259
I just started a The Spoils revisited video and these faggots spent ten minutes making a display about how inappropriate the art and themes are, how they disavow all of it, and how it was always bad and they just didn't realise it when they were younger.

>>97839330
A harsh truth nuke. People in the West call this a "Hashruke".

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How good is Don Krieg? Just realized you can probably get the cards for free from all the bulk people got in prerelease and they're gonna throw into the trash

My current deck is purple blue Sanji which got his red rocs replaced by Ragnaraku but no clue how relevant it'll remain

The design philosophy behind these games needing 'blockers' rather than having every card being able to block?

>>97839489
Just finished testing against my Purple Blue Sanji, and it wins most of the time.

Maybe it just particularly counters Sanji, but I'm surprised a garbage bin tier deck (talking about the price, literally common bulk) can compete at all.
It should also do well into Boa... Maybe. It fucks with decks that go wide with too many bodies and rests the Blockers for free.

>>97839550
Copying Duel Masters.

What's the general consensus on the Cyberpunk TCG? Is it worth backing on Kikestarter for rare Beta branded cardboard?

More interested in Neuroscape tcg than that cash grab

>>97839752
Who knows? I've tried it on tabletop sim and while it's alright the cards so far are pretty basic. I can't imagine too many people making it their main game over Magic, Riftbound, OP, etc etc unless they're diehard Cyberpunk fans, of which I'm not sure how many exist.
That being said, I bought the minimum tier to get the beta box just because I have the money and there's a chance, albeit low, the stuff in it is worth a lot more in a few years.

>>97839800
I was tempted to get the minimum tier too (the 2 decks), does it come with those shiny backer cards or is that a privilege only higher tiers can enjoy?

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>>97839832
my understanding is everyone will get the Rebecca, David, V, and Lucy promos

>>97839843
Ok that's good then. But are these cards even playable? The pics make them look like art cards if anything.

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>>97839832
>>97839843
and then if you get the $350 tier or higher you get the beta box which I believe just has more promos, sleeves, and a playmat.

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>>97839852
I think they're just textless variants like Magic sometimes does.

>>97839855
That's just a tad too much money for me to spend. I know you could probably make that money back very easily by selling a couple promos to collectors but as of right now I can't afford it.
>>97839860
That's a shame, I have no interest in what're basically proxies lol.

>>97839296
Game shop profit margins are too slim to be picky about what you sell. Also, the guy at the counter isn't the one making the decisions.

>>97839566
Copying DM is not a bad thing to do, though and there's reason to do it.
>>97839550
It solves the board stall issue that NtG suffers from.

>>97839752
depends on who you are. as a game, it looks pretty fucking boring. but sales numbers are big so if you're a flipper it might be a win for you.

>>97840428
Coomer games aren't making them any reliable money. Pokemon, magic, and whatever recently released acg that's still having stock problems and can sell above msrp are.

Also snacks.

>>97840622
if you want to keep a LGS afloat, everything that takes up shelf space needs to be making money.

Grand Archive's art direction doesn't really do it favours. But it's alright since they're mostly appealing to the SEA region.

>>97840446
Board stall is dealt with board removal

>>97840622
If they weren't making them money they wouldn't keep selling them.
>that's still having stock problems and can sell above msrp are
Stock problems are a problem for shops too. And Magic doesn't do msrp any more.

Grand Archive feels like gacha, 2/3rds of the allies are fucking women

>>97840738
If the game has reliable removal then the staller can use it too. The reality of the matter is that Magic's blocking system is such a mess that Wizards had to change the rules around it multiple times, the last of which not even that long ago, and people who aren't playing in tournaments would regularly house-rule the mechanics by sheer accident.

>>97840785
I think the issue is less the blocking system and more the "declare all attacks at once" system.

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I like how with my LGS's main game being One Piece, nobody minds coomer card games at all, since OP is already pretty close to one already.

>>97840446
>It solves the board stall issue that NtG suffers from.
This. Magic has the flying keyword exactly because board stalls would be the standard otherwise. DM just made evasion the default state which is for the better.

Fuck, DM is just the perfect streamlined card game. In terms of base systems it is one of the best designed games ever made.

>>97840789 (Me)
Actually I retract this statement after thinking a bit more about it and reading >>97840800

>>97840660
Correct, but most LGSs don't make much money, they are hobby businesses that sorta break even.

Regardless, It's not about pure margin, it's margin * volume. Coomer games tend to have high margins comparatively, but very low volume, and sometimes negatively impact high volume stuff like Pokémon sales (less so these days with Pokémon stock basically being a money printer and selling all to scalpers). They're noob traps, essentially, unless there's already an enclave of customers that come to the store. Weeb corner is a good way to mitigate that, as another anon suggested, but it's still almost never going to be worth the risk of alienating the walk in "parents with kids" crowd.

If you want degenerate card games, just buy online and save everyone the hassle. If you want to help your LGS out, work to build a reliable event community for a 2nd tier game, buy snacks and backlog items that have been on the shelves for a while, or sell them popular staples for the 50% market price they'll give you.

Anime is more popular nowadays so is it only MTG neckbeards who have a problem with a little boobies?

>>97839489
Are the numbers ever not in increments of 1000? Can the game remove all those zeroes and not be effected

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>>97840873
>made in japan

>>97840851
Pokémon fans too. They only accept flat chests.

>>97840776
>meanwhile wind meta decks are slimes horses, a dragon and aesan protector a helmed knight.
>fire aggro is a horse and Arthur

>>97840794
>1000 men
>5 big tiddy females
>coomer card game
Why is it like this in Americuck?

>>97840873
>not be affected
>becomes tiny pp small energy weak numbers
No, power has to be represented by huge numerals. If you have a power of 5 it means you're some kind of puny insignificant fag, a weakling not worth the trouble. A power of 5.000.000 on the other hand means you're a dragon-god who is about to wipe out entire armies by looking in their general direction.
Only thing better than a bunch of zeros is the infinity symbol, which kind of looks like zeros if you think about it.

>>97840873
It's just that way so there's no possible confusion between costs and power.

>>97839860
i hate textless cards, they shouldn't be deck legal

>>97840873
No.
On a psychological level, single or double digit numbers are used to represent mundane units from real life, it doesn't convey any epicness at all, and if it were money it'd represent something cheap like a burger. It just sounds off to say I attack you with 4 and you defend with 6 (although, verbally this ends up being the case lol sometimes playing we start omiting the "thousand" and just say the number, but when I power up or drop a powerful card I WILL say the full number)


Regardless of all, attacking with 10,000 is a lot. Be it money, joules, miles, soldiers, kg.
Although some online card games do play around with basic single digit numbers, it's part of the experience being compact, mobile and quick fun.

>>97842494
>cheap like a burger.
In THIS economy?!

>>97838037
>Vanguard
This. I own 8 Vanguard decks because of that reason.

>>97842153
When I make my game there will be vanilla synergy and tribal buffs just to rub you the wrong way.

>>97840873
Nips have serious yen mental illness

Real life circumstances has hindered me for a while. How did the Duel Masters tournament(s) go? Or continuation series or... whatever it was.

Kinda wish more tcgs would rip off what Cardfight Vanguard did and twist it.
I can see a game where you have graded units that you play sequentially while you take life via placing the top card into your life zone and then your able to use face up life cards as a resource for effects

>>97843279
So Wixoss?

One piece owns this thread

What current card games are on the lower power level or slower side? I'm done with MtG at this point, primarily due to the three year rotation and 7 sets per year pushing the power level of decks too high for my taste. Digimon looks cool visually and I like the IP but it seems even faster and more explosive which isn't really what I'm looking for, but maybe I'm wrong.

>>97843788
Riftbound basically always goes to at least turn 6 since it's points based.

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>>97843788
Neopets Battledome is a 3v3 card game where you deal damage and block attacks using RNG dice rolls
You win 2 out of 3 battles you are the winner
Simple gameplay but loads of fun because anyone can make a comeback

>>97842494
pretty unfiltered view in to the mind right here.

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Hard luckshitted GA's new set

>>97843788
Lorcana is 4 sets per year with a 1year rotation, don't know if that's better or worse to you.

>>97843788
>it seems even faster and more explosive
Digimon is the new yugioh. Bandai fucked up the memory system with cost reduction, memory gain, and "without paying the cost"

Bandai are shit with handling power creep which is why they went with the rotation route in One Piece

>>97843279
Buddyfight,Wixoss,Weiss...

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Anyone else go on Youtube and watch tournament matches of games they don't even play?
Like, I'm watching Gundam right now and have no idea what's going on but I'm enjoying it.

>>97845032
Didn't even help, each set has been power creeping so hard you legit can barely play a leader for 1 set without it being useless.

>>97843190
It was gonna be a Wixoss progression series. And it didn't.

>>97845243
I was on the stream table that tournament.

>>97845275
Did you win?

>>97845289
The game yes. The tournament no.

>the website that used to post top 5 Japanese card game sales rankings for each month doesn't anymore
Fuck. What will I use for anti-Yugioh shitposting now?

>>97845294
Always feels good to win on the stream table.

>>97845316
>anti-Yugioh shitposting
Why waste your time doing that

>>97845362
I thought it was funny. Especially those few months where even One Piece was beating it.

Does your LGS loan out decks? For poor fags

Riftbound seems extremely unbalanced but I'm not really much of a card game player

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>>97845550
It kind of is? Like, at the top level Draven is the undisputed king, even after the bans and I don't think this will change too much in set 3. Being the easiest card draw legend in the game, and being able to do it 2-3 times a turn for some stupid reason, just makes him beyond powerful.
At store level plenty of decks can compete. I've been to 3 skirmishes this month and they were all won by different legends. Draven, Fiora, and surprisingly Ahri.

For the love of fuck get rid of that Rune Recycle mechanic, just make the cards bricks instead

>>97845460
Not that I'm aware of, but they do make discount sets out of bulk commons to help the cheaper players.

>>97843788
Unironically it might be One Piece, anyone else care to comment on this? I'm not that experienced and my decks are freaking Purple Blue Sanji and Krieg, both notorious for plating the long grind.

But One Piece does give me the vibes of old Yugioh in which the first turns are truly just setting up plays for waaaay later, and you tend to play few cards per turn.
Although this specific Meta, Enel exists and he's at full power the moment he has 6 DON on the field, that's like turn x3. Not sure if long grindy games will be a thing this set.

>>97841461
Do you mean the cards or the players? That game JUST had an all female expansion.

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How does Concoct Disorder work in Flesh and Blood? Does the Arsenal slot need to be empty for it to trigger? IIRC there have been cards before that allowed multiple cards to be put in the arsenal slot.

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WOAH

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This is why I play FAB and not One Piece. Your characters are terrible and the boobs are not always out. FAB girs are elegant

>>97845817
I'm trans btw if anyone was asking

>>97845766
What is that? Is that an official product?

>>97845817
Straight and based, One Piece is the ugliest cartoon going except Baki (which is ugly on purpose).

>>97841926
>>97842494
>a power of 5 is puny
>a power of 50 zillion is so powerful
so the entire fanbase of these games is second graders?
well, when you get to third grade and learn about things like "multiplication" and "units of measurement", your mind is gonna be blown.

>>97846188
>is such a fucking retard he doesn't understand visual representation
You might honestly be stupider than a grade schooler. Dealing with too many zeros too hard for you? Should we shorten everything to calculations and units to free up a centimeter of space?
Multiple posts explained it to you in the simplest way possible, but the point still seems to be going over your head.
You'd be shit at game design.

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Is there a CG in which Green would be the color of trickery and tactics? Trickery and disruption are the most fun way of playing CGs for me and Green us the coolest color, but in most games i played it is just the ramp/tempo color. From my experience the color that usually gets the cool trickery cards is blue or black/purple. And it may sound autistic but I just can't bring myself to like blue cards. I will gravitate towards green even if it is boring.

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>>97845766
>>97845850
No, it's just fanart, that playmat just cut off the artist's patreon.

>>97846321
Why was it posted here then? What's the point?

>>97846333
The point is to assert yourself as an anime GOD on this pathetic general. Western faggots wouldn't understand because they think traditional medium deserves to be called 'art' but not anime.

>>97846333
Booba

>>97846333
Guessing the original anon got tricked into thinking it was official by someone adding the TCG's logo to the top left.

>>97844698
Really should have been 6 sets to rotate, 4 is too quick imo and yet still left the meta stale. Hopefully every 4 isn't a "core" set like Fabled.

>>97846306
In Netrunner Green on runner side is the trickiest faction to play lately

>>97846413
Yeah, I guess they were going for an annual schedule, which makes sense, in a way. I would have been fine with 6, too.

>>97846460
I don't think I'd call shaper the tricksy runner faction. they're the big rig and resource ramp color there too.

>>97846753
>lately
Shaper is no longer big rig partly due to cardpool and lack of money in-faction. Crim does a much better big rig LARP these days

Most shaper decks revolve around flickering utility/one-off programs that melt ice to play control and then finish the game off with Deep Dive

>>97846762
Sounds very gay

>>97846877
Takes a fag to know it

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>>97845817

>>97847184
How will YGOfags cope when One Piece inevitably overtakes their game?

>>97845749
It's the same 4 female characters they keep on recycling over and over again because the series is full of men.

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>>97847184

>>97845755
>Arsenal
From the CRB https://rules.fabtcg.com/en/cr/03-zones/?h=arsenal#cr3.3
>3.3.2 An arsenal zone can only contain up to one of its owner's deck-cards.[1.3.2c]§
>3.3.2a If an effect would put a card into an arsenal zone that is not empty, or into the arsenal and there are no empty arsenal zones, that effect fails.§

>Concoct Disorder
From the release notes https://fabtcg.com/rules-and-policy-center/release-notes/compendium-of-rathe/
>Concoct Disorder triggers when it resolves on the stack and becomes an attacking card on the combat chain. When the triggered effect resolves, each hero puts the top card of their deck face-down into their arsenal, beginning with you and moving clockwise around the table. If 2 or more cards are put into arsenals this way, Concoct Disorder gets go again.
>If a hero is unable to put a card in their arsenal, that effect fails for that hero.
You can play the card even if you or the opponent cannot arsenal an additional card.

>>97847413
Thanks, I didn't even know about those release notes. These clarifications should be under the cards on the official website's card database though.

>>97847460
It gets worse when you realize sometimes the ruling only showed up in example in a back alley oracle or rules reprise.

>>97847473
At least they show up somewhere. There are far worse games in this regard. Some games only have official rulings for obscure situations in person with the top judges / devs, and all of their communities have to keep up with what they don't even write down.

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>>97846306
ashes' green (sympathy) is kind of a tricky control / engine color. it's not a blue, there's no direct counterspells, but lots of traps and reactive sideways moves.

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>>97829277
Taking a break from pokemon
Should I get into Digimon or Hololive? Both have small but sizeable communities at my local store cluster.
Saw there is a sakuyamon deck that's very pretty and seems competitive enough, haven't researched much about hololive meta. Which one is better designed and more enjoyable to play?

>>97847222
One piece has no legs. Printing a dozen different luffies and a dozen different choppers every set is going to cause severe fatigue among the fanbase sooner rather than later.
Pokemon has a thousand+ different creatures to go off with new games coming each couple years. MTG goes to different planes with new sets of characters for every set, ygo makes up new archetypes every now and then. One Piece (and some others like lorcana and riftbound) have a limited amount of content and characters to go by, heavily restricted to adapting stuff from other sources.

>>97847910
hololive if you want something similar to pokemon and in general because digimon has retards at the helm. the bans are too little or way too much in a powercreep meta

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>>97847910
I'd love to recommend Hololive if you you want to play something Pokemon adjacent but with no huge basics to deal with but we are currently less than two weeks away from a rough meta where the top deck is actually expensive to build. Come back in June when things smooth out.

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>Major event in a few days and flying off in 24 hours
>However recent performance at locals has been shit.
>Even more stress as it's supposed to be a good meta for my deck.
>Slander from everybody around me. which builds resentment as i was there supporting my group meanwhile i'm getting belittled when i need support from them.
>Stress and tilted from everything and everyone.
>Endless self doubt in my play as i'm constantly losing.
>Deck is also gonna rotate so it is literally my last chance to play before it is gone forever.
>But i know deep down if i can't envision winning i've pretty much lost the game at the beginning.
>Can't imagine the last time i had fun playing this stupid game.
>Last thing i want is to tilt and not have fun on the trip
>But i know i'd also seethe at myself if i don't take part after months of practice.

I have no idea what to do anymore.

>>97847222
Yugioh players compete for air fryers at their biggest events, they already know their game is cooked in term of popularity in the west and it's just a question of time before it's dethroned by another shonen card game.

>>97847953
bandai. it's not meant to last.

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>>97847953
>Lorcana
>limited content
laughing_mickey.gif
>buys all of your IP

>>97848285
There are already around 100 mickey cards and the game has been out for like 2 years? Surely you are not implying they are gonna release a star wars or simpsons set do you?

>>97848304
Doubtful, but they still have plenty of IP to mine, and they're just getting started on Pixar in the next set. They also have certain expectations to meet... of course they're putting out more Mickeys in each set. Mickeys and Elsas print money.

>>97846753
last i've seen a shaper deck they were using that wacky dude who makes a singleton deck full of best-ofs from all other factions, if that doesn't scream "so tricky there's too many cards up the sleeve" and "tactics of just figuring out what to do with your turn" then i dont know what will.
but that was ages ago, maybe they changed with the NISEI releases who knows

>>97848060
>>Slander from everybody around me. which builds resentment as i was there supporting my group meanwhile i'm getting belittled when i need support from them.
yeah you have shit friends. rip man.

>>97848060
who cares if you lose as long as you have fun
also what game and what deck?

>>97848060
>>Slander from everybody around me. which builds resentment as i was there supporting my group meanwhile i'm getting belittled when i need support from them.
your friends suck
find new ones

>>97848596
>the last shaper deck I saw was professor
>a professor deck in the wild
>drawing any conclusion from that at all

>>97845736
>Unironically it might be One Piece, anyone else care to comment on this?
Yes and no. It was on a lower power level a few sets ago, but Bandai is power creeping the game each recent set despite the game having a fucking rotation
>>97845766
sex!
>>97846353
based
>>97847910
>Digimon
Bandai fucked the game, so play hololive

What's the meta for One Piece looking like atm?
Same question for Gundam

>>97849271
>One Piece
Afaik, Purple Enel is the deck to beat

I'll have to try out the decks on OPTCGsim

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>>97849271
These are the top decks right now.

Mirror matches are just a dice roll or can you pivot skill in One Piece?

Tryna learn Riftbound and see there are like 40-50 min videos on how to play.
Gonna be interestinggg

>>97849569
Depends a bit on the deck, as some become much stronger if you win the dice roll, but there's still some skill involved in the win.

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>>97849267
>Bandai fucked the game
Please elaborate on this, Sakuyamon is looking at me with sex eyes.

>>97849760
New card designs break the memory system (>>97844727). The game is becoming as fast and broken as yugioh in less years than it took yugioh to become what it is right now

>>97849828
Ah I see, such a shame. Watched a couple videos on how to play and the memory system sounded really insteresting to me, the fact everything had a cost, creatures not having haste and getting tapped reminded me of magic but now that I think about it those videos were 4 years old, didn't bother researching modern meta. Well thanks for the heads up, guess I'll go hololive or just take a vacation from card games altogether.

>>97849867
Digimon has one of the best systems out there. The mechanics were amazing, and the card effects translated to what the Digimons did in the anime/games/books/manga. But recently Bandai started fucking all this up. Colors even don't matter much anymore because of decks like TS, CS , or Adventure
>guess I'll go hololive
It's for the best

>>97849940
>>97849867
>>97849828
>>97849760
I currently play digimon and yeah, Bandai power creeping all their games like mad right now, not sure why. Still think digimon is more fun than one piece right now though.

Digimon is still also better than vanguard and yugioh at the moment.

>>97849760
Nigga it doesn't even have eyes

>>97849991
>Digimon is still also better than vanguard and yugioh at the moment
I don't know anything about Vanguard, but I agree with Digimon being better than ygo. But being better than a pile of shit doesn't mean much. Also, Digimon is powercreeping faster than ygo.

>>97850024
Yeah, but so is One Piece. I hope they slow down a bit in the next few sets, feels like you HAVE to be playing the brand new decks every week or you're behind.

>>97850121
To make it worse, OP has rotation. In Digimon, they must power creep to sell new cards, while in OP power creep doesn't make much sense.
>I hope they slow down a bit in the next few sets
Digi went to shit after BT16, so let's see if Bandai will do the same to OP

>>97849991
What's your opinion on Sakuyamon? Does it fend well against current meta or has it already been powercrept to trash in just the couple months it has been out for? Have been looking around some tournament tops and Sakuyamon is nowhere to be seen. I just want to win from time to time at my local store.

>>97850155
It's fine and a lot cheaper than it used to be because of structures but there are better, cheaper decks.

Bandai game's decks price are not representative of power level, one of the best decks in one piece is Lucy and its like 60 bucks? Boa has to be hundreds and its not much better if at all.

>>97850161
>there are better, cheaper decks.
Such as? My only requirement is that it has sexy girlmons in it.

>>97850178
None because you want to pay the waifu tax.

Is it safe to buy sealed boxes from TCGPlayer?

>>97849991
All their extant games have lasted too long, they want to crash a couple to consolidate "serious players" into one long running game, then relaunch the other two's IPs with a brand new game.

>>97850198
Hot chicks are like half the appeal of digimon and I'm not really into fuckhuge biblical mechas.

>>97850479
It makes sense for them to crash Digimon and the two Dragonball games, but OP brings them too much money. I wouldn't understand if Bandai killed UA, OP, or Gundam

>>97850372
safer than amazon

>>97849569
mirror matches are high skill in basically any game, because all the other variables are removed. If a game isn't high skill in the mirror, then it's not high skill in any matchup.

>>97850515
UA is basically dead but presumably has nearly zero carrying costs, so I can see that one surviving. Gundam was a flash in the pan, I don't expect it to last long. Neither dbz game has any player base so I'd expect those to die in the next year or two.

They should bring back Dbz score ruleset

>>97850552
>UA is basically dead
It's growing in Japan, while the last three sets sold more than any of the others in NA. The last one, Solo Leveling, will even have a restock.
UA might not have lgs players, but it sells, and that is what matters.
>has nearly zero carrying costs
Pretty much. Most cards are anime screenshots
>I can see that one surviving
Imo, UA exists solely to eat the competition(Bushiroad's Weiss)
>Gundam was a flash in the pan, I don't expect it to last long
I can see Bandai pushing it for sometime even if doesn't bring much profit because of it is Bandai's own IP
>Neither dbz game has any player base so I'd expect those to die in the next year or two.
Me too

>>97850552
>Gundam was a flash in the pan, I don't expect it to last long.
this is bandai's oldest and only child. they're gonna ride it until the wheels fall off.

>>97850890
the IP yes. but this TCG is just one disposable product in a long line.

>male character with chest out and basically no shirt
>yeah this is le fine
>female with cleavage
>NOOOOOOO HECKIN' GOONER GAME
why is the west so cucked

>>97851134
Cali

>>97851340
ah yes, california, well known as the state where women never show cleavage

>>97851564
I met so many onions fucks there it's not even funny, however they are not exclusive there. Nerds in general are anti sex because no one gets laid.

>>97851134
People want equality of representation because it is important, you want it because you're horny. There's a difference.

>>97851795
What's wrong with being horny? You people flaunt your sexuality all the time.

Finding out that World of Tanks has a TCG makes me want to design my own TCG. But I haven't played any regularly since I was a kid so I'd have my work cut out for me.

>>97852419
I guess there could be a tf2 TCG where you can only have one of each class on the field at a time. That could be good.

>>97851134
>why is the west so cucked
Gynocentric society. The west cucked and brainwashed two generations into thinking that anything related to appealing to the male sex drive is bad and predatory. Now that TCGs are are more mainstream than ever, we have to expect the cucks that ruined cinema and video games in the last 5 years to come and ruin this hobby as well.

>>97851795
>because it is important
Says who?

>>97851134
this with the one piece tcg. enelfags you know who you are. Nami and Robin le gooner but my chest guy le wholesome. Male sexualization ok, female bad. Hate the community.

Rude Tea just said that the Won Peace bubble is popping. I am truly sorry for your lots.

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>Goes to MTG centric LGS
>Takes out playmat
>Gets stares from pathetic virgins
>LGS owner comes over and tells me to change playmats
>Tells him to show me where rules
>MTG players decide to grab my playmat and throw is outside in the bin

T__T

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>>97854720
Based imaginary Magic players in this made up story

>>97854720
>hard nipples
Sign me in

>>97835896
This. As a game It wasn't balanced all that well, but I miss it.

>>97839388
Amazing how the latter half of the 10s just fucking ruined any discussion about anything remotely sexualized. So much "this hasn't aged well.'" Like, no, it set out to be a game of vices and gratuitous violence, why do you think the resources are sins.

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>>97854774
I have magic player stories to share that would make your toes curl.

>>97856631
they are the hypocrite gods

>>97856631
Commander trannys don't count as magic players

>>97857242
Old Skool Mtg player here: They were insufferable even before Commander existed.

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>>97854720
Never understood why so many people have a problem with sexy anime girls. Do they hate beauty or what?

>>97858267
only big cocks allowed for the western mind

>>97854720
Things that never happened but weebs will believe because it fuels their persecution complexes and AGP

>>97854720
>'where rules?' to the owner
Pathetic.

>>97854720
>LGS owner comes over and tells me to change playmats
>Tells him to show me where rules
He should've spit in your face and banned you for life.

I am still on your side playmat anon

>>97854720
fake and also gay

>>97857700
as one to another, doubt.
EDH has been with us a long damn time. we were playing that shit a decade before WotC every heard of it.

>>97859247
MtG players have always been such garbage human beings that at the literal first huge official event a couple years in when Wizards rented a huge building and had journalists come over the actual players were put on a separate floor from the staff and ignored by the press.

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>>97852419
As long as you're focusing on the actual core mechanics and not wasting hours on border design or figuring out monetization for 100 untested cards I don't think there's any downsides. Because even if somehow you don't learn a single thing from the process, it'll at least rid of you of that nagging "wouldn't it be interesting to..."
These days I kind of take it to the extreme and see how fast I can spin up a prototype and get to testing in hopes of offsetting all the "10/10 best idea ever" I never actually made progress on back in the day (nandeck + game-icons.net usually makes it take 10 minutes top now)

>>97859346
>MtG players have always been such garbage human beings
This. No one was old enough to play fnm in the early 2000s to know that the playerbase has almost always been this way, and to some degrees worse. They were gatekeeping even before normies invaded LGS.

>>97859545
>fnm in the early 2000s
most of the "old skool" mtg players had moved on to other games by then. different people, different scene.

Speaking of casual game design, what is /acg/'s preferred method of state tracking? Say a card can be played at 1, 2, 3 or 4 mana cost, would you prefer a dice to indicate the value, a "clip" to place on the side of the card, dry erase marks, or a block on the space on the card (easy to knock off perhaps), or something else?

>>97859714
Make the orientation of the card different for each mana cost. The amount of extra pieces or elements you can reduce the better

>>97850515
>It makes sense for them to crash Digimon and the two Dragonball games
Dragon Ball has legs, they need to get rid of Masters and fully invest in Fusion World.

>>97859714
What I came up with when theorizing a stamina system was instead of making it a counter stacking mess like Pokémon have a 1 to X scale as part of the card border and only keep track of which number you're on. The problem with that is it's easy to cheat or even mess up by accident so in practice you end up back to pen and paper.

>>97859826
Maybe it's where I live. Here it's pretty much forgotten
The more games, the merrier

>>97859826
>>97860555
Fusion world has 0 traction where I live too, but digimon and one piece are doing fine.

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>>97859826
the cards look sick but dragon ball is only having success in the market, not so much in active players. very few players at my lgs

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>>97854720
For me, it's Saya.

>>97836990
I applaud your commitment anon.

>>97849760
This deck has gotten me right to the edge of buying in to digimon.

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>>97858299

>>97860957
LMAO

>>97860678
>digimon
In some places there is an active community. There is one where I lived. However, Bandai fucked up the game
>OP
Afaik, OP is doing fine everywhere
>>97860932
Don't. There are better card games
>>97860957
WTF?!

>>97861606
I think digimon is bandai's best game honestly

Bandai has low standard games they are clearly more casual in design.