>prepared
mildly annoying in terms of information density but will likely be fun in gameplay
>paradigm
it's Epic but not shit, very cool

Prepaid is dogshit unless they enter prepared.
Paradigm is only not a mistake if it never appears again.

>>97865461
The main thing that annoys me about prepared is some of the spells being real spells and some of them not.
Paradigm seems neat I guess.

>>97865485
>Prepaid is dogshit unless they enter prepared.
Ironic typo

>>97865461
>We Need More Teysa
Boobs too big. Demographic surveys say Americans prefer ass.

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Question: If I cast an Adventure spell from my command zone, can I send it back to the command zone instead of exiling it?

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>want to build urza deck
>lord high artificer is the coolest mechanically and fits my artifact fetish the best
>lord protector has one of the sickest transformations in the game but the card itself is just a cost reducer
>can't run the latter in the 99 of the former
>if you run the former in the 99 of the latter you can't build around him nearly as well
fuck.

>>97865509
Yes.
However, when he's in exile he is not taxed.
Casting the sorcery from the command zone still has commander tax.

>>97865528
>Casting the sorcery from the command zone still has commander tax.
I looked this up to confirm and not only is it true, but the creature portion doesn't get command tax applied when you cast it from exile. Makes sense but still weird.

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Behold! 'Better Chains of Mephistopheles'

>>97865589
>designed by the magic community
That's how you know it's only for bracket 2

>can't play mechanics everyone hates
>eternally stuck in bracket 2 battlecruiser meta
I need some inspiration. I cannot play discard, reanimator, landfall, aristocrats, group slug, burn and power matters anymore because it's too crazy for my best friend I don't want to have to look at his sadface every weekend.

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

>>97865640
What you need is a new best friend

>>97865509
>>97865554
after your commander gets moved from any other zone to your graveyard or face-up exile, on the first SBA you may chose to move it to the command zone. if your commander would be moved from a public zone (battlefield, graveyard, face-up exile) to your hand or library, you may -as a replacement effect- move it to your command zone instead.
'commander tax' is an additional cost applied to casting your commander from the command zone only. you don't pay 'commander tax' if you cast it from your hand or from any other zone or source of 'you may cast that card'. exile isn't the command zone, they're separate game zones.

>>97865640
off the top of my head, stuff that isn't in your list (yet) are mill, lifegain, and toughness matters. more pertinently, you are being manipulated and you should either punch him or stop playing edh together.

>>97865505
irish hands posted this

>>97865640
mill

>>97865676
Nice try, but no dice. Irish hate ass, not boobs.

>>97865664
no, he is a good friend who even listens to my deck building advice, he just tends to put lots of ineffective pet cards into his decks that drag the entire thing down.
>>97865671
>>97865680
funny, because I have decks for all of those, and he never complained about them. guess I'm revisiting captain nigga, he was kinda fun.

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>read last thread about lifegain
>browse some cards
>see this 5 mana do nothing enchantment
>fifteen (15) Dollars
but why?

>>97865640
Like the other anons said, mill but no combos. It's the ultimate pleb filter.

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>>97865687
ireland hates everything big and beautiful

>>97865589
No, stupid. That card heavily synergizes with Chains of Mephistopheles.

>>97865693
Good in Oloro

Wish swordbro was here to make more Teysa..

>>97865505
as america shifts back towards being majority rightist (just look at opinion polls of gen z), attraction is going to swing back in favor of boobs. multiple people (read: online schizophrenics) on both sides have observed this before, leftists like butts, rightists like boobs.
my personal schizophrenic theory is that this is because rightism is inherently k-selective and leftism is inherently r-selective.

>>97865711
This makes sense considering I'm a moderate and I like both

>>97865721
But do you like both in moderation? Or are you an extremist?

>>97865723
In moderation, I think there's a just right size for both

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>>97865705
>playing babies first lifegain deck
Unless you started playing commander in 2025 you should not do this.

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>>97865693
Timmybrain cards always fetch high prices, especially if they were historically powerful.

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>>97865743
My first lifegain deck was Orah and I don't really play Oloro anymore, I loan it out to friends without a deck that night, I play Azula now

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>>97865760
join me. she is fun in low power brackets.

>>97865771
I actually did want to build her when I saw her, I should just sit down and do it honestly

>>97865707
You know the thing about AI is, you can do it yourself

>>97865589
>tfw absolutely adore this card but don't want to be the guy playing hard discard control because everyone groans when they see it

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Is she viable for a 4?
Yeah, tutoring for the infinite combo asap is obvious, and kinda boring, but she's so pretty and I want her in the command zone

>>97865823
Why do you want to play 4 then?

>>97865830
Pod plays 4s and they won't step up to CEDH nor will they step down to 3s or below.

>>97865837
hell comes in many shapes and forms

What is the actual difference between 4 and CEDH?

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>>97865461
>How we feeling about prepared, paradigm, etc from Strixhaven?
Prepared is going to be a godsend in any deck that needs a spell to kickstart an engine. I know I will be putting a couple into my Neera deck. Too many times I've had pay-off on board but not had spells in hand to cast, in various decks.

Paradigm isn't going to happen as much as people think outside of decks with heavy cost reduction, but it's going to be annoying as fuck when it does happen.
They're mostly around the 5-8 mana mark iirc and there's definitely better things to be doing at that stage of the game than waiting around until your next upkeep, but it'll happen.
I've always strongly opposed effects that can't be interacted with, and this is pushing dangerously close to that. It is cast and it's still a spell so counterspells and protection will work, but it's annoying that it is being cast from exile meaning there's no way to turn it off permanently. I don't see what was wrong with letting it re-cast itself from grave instead, then graveyard removal could turn it off.

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Is there any reason you can't run this guy as your commander, have a deck of almost exclusively insects, then activate his -5 ability to deal 40+ damage to each opponent?

>>97865894
no. go ahead. chase your dream.

>>97865895
I fail to see how it could ever possibly go wrong???????????????????
>mill a land instead of an insect
Okay, just go next and try again next turn

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>>97865858
Nothing really, only that you pink promise to not be sweaty in b4
The only tangible difference is that if you put a hard line on comboing out (like say you can only infinite t5+, otherwise you might as well just combo out asap and do away with the pretension)

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>>97865894
I'm like 99% sure he's the number 1 insect commander, buddy. Sadly my queen can't compete

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>>97865858
4 is still just playing junk, though junk with a bunch of powerful bullshit in it.
Most commanders, with the right cards can play enjoyable games at bracket 4. Might not win, might not go off super fast, but possible.
its also still a bit more chill.
CEDH is just, you are going to sweat and you know everyone is going to sweat and you need to know your lines, and see the other commanders and know their lines and play on meta rather than "yeah, I just like tutors and these dumb gorgons, so we're gonna see what's up."
The games are "fast" at least in amount of turn, and you need to have a way to deal with shit on turn 1 before you've even gotten your first turn.
i

>>97865876
Just play Vexing Bauble or Boromir and it shuts it right down.

>>97865858
Nothing but cope.

>>97865947
Nice. Another non GC tutor I can use.

>>97865902
none of my decks win by even T10. but they all absolutely make the game near impossible for my opponents to win in the same timeframe. anything you try to do, i say "fuck you".

>>97865956
based. I derive my enjoyment of the game by denying it to others

>>97865947
instant is pretty big

>>97865956
>he thinks stax is sweaty and not actually a meme that nobody in cedh uses
Happy for you and your b4 pod i guess

>>97865526
Dumb question, but would anything change if it only said "You may activate loyalty abilities of X twice" without the "rather than only once" part?
Or is that just subtle reminder text for newfags?

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I want to build this fat fuck

>>97865858
the difference is largely 'printing counterfeits/proxies of mox's etc' vs just regular cards. Many of the staples such as cyc rift, orcish bowmasters aren't really all that rare, just demand caused their prices to spike. Not hard to get a hold of. There's a price barrier for cedh with mox diamonds and the complete absence of creativity. force of will is in about 65%~? of all decks. I can make a bracket 4 deck with no game changers that pops off, but has no chance against cedh decks that run instant win combos and value engines for a turn 2 or turn 3 win. Plus, many decks such as etali suck against normal decks because the shared pool of cards aren't as high impact. You can't expect to steal huge value hits consistently from them.

>>97865938
Bringing Sisters of Stone Death to the average bracket 4 table is just starting the game with one less card, NOBODY plays silly shit like that in B4. It's all value engines, combos and fast mana in my experience.

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>costs $30
Why?
>>97865461
Teysa looks like a hooker.

>>97865983
>implying i claimed cedh
l2read

>>97866020
The anon you're talking to plays in a pod that refuses to push b4 to its logical conclusion but still thinks that's how the bracket 'is expected' to be played

>>97866028
Single printing from jumpstart
Good card.
"Anime tax"

>>97866030
I like you using the same terms every time you try and get into an argument so I can just filter the tab and save my time and not see your cringe spaghetti dropping.

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>>97866029
You think stax is sweaty which is demonstrably false, proven by the fact that it's not a viable archetype in cedh
>compare stax to simic, the latter being a real archetype

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>>97866020
It was a pretty far out example, but you can fill it with the most broken cards in green and black and it could still compete, I assure you.
Not like making infinite mana is very difficult.

>>97866042
Tivit is a fake stax deck then I guess

>>97866030
>logical conclusion

You can run infinites, and other silly shit in bracket 4, such as MLD. It doesn't have to be 'WELL, THE BRACKET GUIDELINES HAVE NO RESTRICTIONS ON TURN 4 INFINITES SO OBVIOUSLY THE CONCLUSION IS THAT EVERYONE SHOULD PLAY META DECKS AND COMBO OUT ON TURN 4'.

https://archidekt.com/decks/17493977/azula_boronko
This deck can win on turn 4 if I added a tutor and added jeska's will back. It is not in anyway cedh. I legitimately struggle to understand why you people keep trying to make decks that clearly don't fit into a given bracket by trying to make them 'competitive'.

>>97866062
It doesn't have to be, but by default it should be assumed that is what people will play.

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>>97865461
Canon sex worker

>>97866053
Correct, because tivit in truth is an esper midrange deck that desperately wants jewlotus back

>>97866062
>I legitimately struggle to understand why you people keep trying to make decks that clearly don't fit into a given bracket by trying to make them 'competitive'.
Because you think everyone thinks likr you and shares your idea of holding back when all the game knows is winning or losing

>>97866042
i never claimed to be talking about cedh. i never claimed anything about being "sweaty". i never claimed anything about stax even. all i said is that the power level of my decks are not determined by the turn they "win" on because a lot of my focus is on preventing people from winning which pushes the game into much later turns.
>inb4 "what do you mean you never said anything about stax? you said you prevent people from winning!"
not all control decks are stax decks, retard. also, i don't play with cedh shitters because they don't have a thought of originality in their heads. the vast majority are netdecking retards who only know "their lines" and will actually fold against lesser decks if they don't win in the first few turns because they don't actually understand the game and "their lines" become less clear as the turns pass.

>>97866094
>all i said is that the power level of my decks are not determined by the turn they "win"
That is totally a (You) issue that you dont want to face reality but the ability to consistently win asap is in fact a determiner of a deck's power level, otherwise rogsi wouldnt be facing a 3v1 all the time
>frothing at the mouth over originality
>while being in the bracket that gives you all the GCs you want
B2 has more originality than you, or at the very least has more restraint lmao enjoy playing all your broken cards suboptimally

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So when is the MonHun secret Lair coming?

>>97866028
more like semen extractor

>>97866120
Next year at the earliest according to WotC because Capcom got furious that they tried to use MH to sell chaff.

>>97866126
Based easterners once again putting their foot down

>>97866116
you should stop breathing out of your mouth.

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Can I run this dragon safely or is he gay?

>>97866126
I honestly have no idea why they even tried to do that bullshit. The best card was Grand Abolisher and it made zero sense for it to be there.

>>97866157
>Is this dragon homosexual
You already know the answer...

>>97866157
>7 cost
>mediocre effect
I think you're safe bwo

>>97865461
>TQ
Both seems fun and don't have awkward mechanics that make it so even if they never see the light of day again, they can still fit into lots of different decks without issue. Just have to be careful with how easipy prepared can happen because that one that makes pests feels pretty free.

Also, where is that teya art from? I was looking for art for a proxy a while back, looking through scryfall using the teysa tag, but I never saw that one.

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I want to build this as a "lower" power deck. What are some cool cards that leverage his access to a sorcery every turn? I'm planning on running a few cost reducers to cut the cost of his spell to RW. I also have a question regarding "Twinning Staff", will it copy his spell?

>>97866157
App dragons are effectivly hermphrodites, so both gay and not gay.

>>97865858
One looks at the competitive scene and considers what people are running while the other wants to run Bearer of Heavens in Rakdos, Lord of Riots

>>97865822
are you me?
I tried making a group draw+discard to soften the blow but it still didn't work
Might have to revisit it, Nath was the guy

>>97866126
WotC better learn their lesson and never attempt that again

>>97866189
Gay nonbinary Russian eddie munster vampire boy

>WotC
>learning lessons
lmao

>>97866204
I may very well be, as the deck I played around with for a bit was also Nath.

>>97866028
I can't ever take the card art seriously because of her fucking hand. It looks like a baby hand.

>>97866215
I literally do not know a single piece of lore about this dude and now I don't know what is true or not, but I wish I did not know again.

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Gigapox

>>97866231
That isn’t an image of swordtard though???

>>97866225
How dare you disparage superior nip art in /edhg/ of all places?!

>>97865894
>>97865898
you're going to have the problem of your deck consisting almost exclusively of bad creatures with a telegraphed Grist ult as your only wincon
The more you pivot to a good deck by including blood artist etc the further you go from your original plan, barring maskwood nexus and such
However one should not shy away from jank, so try it for sure

>>97866244
I wish it DID look better because she's hot otherwise, love the haircut. Also checked.

>>97866243
jej

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>Be me, playing Obeka Breaker of seconds.
>Having a pretty tough game.
>One opponent has some loop with Bristly Bill and crystalline crawler where he can just put infinite +1/+1 counters on all his creature and make infinite colored mana
>Another player also has a giant board I can't get through.
>Another guy has just 1 creature, he's been the punching bag most of the game.
>I have 7 thopters, sol ring, and my commander on board
>Have hatred, Waterlogged Teachings, vamp tutor, and mechanized production in my hand.
>I need one more mana to win.
>Tutor for Ancient Tomb.
>Okay, so. play mechanized production on sol ring, go to combat, swing at the guy who can't block, play hatred going down to one health, hitting him for 33.
>Would have used teachings to get fierce guardianship to protect from interaction hoping there was only one piece.
>No one had a reaction anyway.
>Look at my board.
>I literally could have just put production on a thopter and won swinging for 2.
How can I work on not being a retard and seeing the path of least resistance instead of being a dramatic faggot?

>>97866120
Pride month, when Capcucks celebrate their culture and heritage.

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>>97866231
>since I didn't have enough creatures, your gigapox is now a MLD spell which is illegal in bracket 3. Good game anon

Should I build Jon irenicus, my friends love playing cancer tables so I figured it might be fun
Is he fun to play or does it get boring fast?

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I can't believe this lil nigga doesn't have any combos outside changelingslop

>>97866231
They keep half assing their homages. First Wight of the Reliquary and now this?

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>>97866227
Kirol is a nonbinary vampire who likes botany. His family rejected him because he's a they/them. True and canon.

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>>97866189
Retrace and Jumpstart cards leave the graveyard and enter the stack when cast.
Effects like pic related are also cheap. Pic related is also funny because it makes the table doubletake.

>>97866292
is they vegan?

>>97866225
I was about to buy it but now I can't unsee it and you're right, that's fucking retarded. WotC outsourced for the wrong nip artist here.

>>97866315
The only lore about them is they are nonbinary and athletic and a vampire. That's their entire personality. They also get very offended when villains misgender them, accordingto the nu-Lorwyn story.

how do vampires live in harmony with other species in the first place when they need to suck everyone's blood? do they carry IV bags around that they get from the nearby drugstore?

>>97866330
They don't live in harmony with other species and generally keep to themselves when they aren't out hunting blood. Kirol is the only vampire in mtg lore who lives harmoniously with others.

>>97866338
how. shouldn't them be shunned?

>>97866292
>His family rejected him because he's a they/them. True and canon.
Some 'people' prefer this over UB, true and real

>>97866136
If you ever want to know who the limp-wristed rainbow corporates truly fear, express support for East Asian companies and watch them shrivel into rage.

>>97866347
They like plants so Strixhaven accepts them to encourage their botanical genius. Maybe them is researching plants to learn hmake a True Blood drink that allows their fellow vampires to coexist with others.

>>97866356
I would rather live in a world where the choice isn't "gay 'nonbinary' 'subversive' low-test vampire" and literal Spongebob Squarepants

>>97866376
What the fuck were you doing in 2012 when Triumph of Ferocity became the flashpoint for "problematic MtG content?" You had a decade to keep things from getting to this point.

>>97866293
I'm actually looking to use the mill part of the spell and run a reanimation type deck with creatures like redemption choir and sun titan. Thou I will need various ways to get him prepared.

>>97866388
Having sex

>>97866376
Spongebob at least has its first 3 seasons that are as timeless as tom and jerry, imagine giving libshit even a little bit of seriousness

>>97866400
Then how about you have more sex than gripe about the card game for nerds.

>>97866406
>He doesn't have sex with girls who play Magic
>He doesn't bring his partners into his hobby
Then again your response is basically "I don't have sex so take that" lol

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>Tying your website to the hip to another tranny website
People put up with this?

>>97866405
And Magic had a decade and a half of absolute kino, so I guess old Magic > old Spongebob.

>>97866435
Which website is trying to tie to trannyfall?

>>97866444
>old Magic > old Spongebob
>absolute kino
Lmao proof of mtg winning any writing awards next thread?

>>97866363
that sounds like the worst excuse to let anyone invite you in. I'd never fall for anything a bloodsucker says

>>97866433
>Then again your response is basically "I don't have sex so take that" lol
What? I don't understand how you gathered that from my post.

>I hate how gay and lame this game is!
>What did you do to stop it?
>I was having sex
>Okay, then have more sex instead of complaining
>Ugh, you're such a virgin!

>>97866093
>all the game knows
the game doesn't know anything. If you retards want to play competitively, play a competitive format.. not the one bending over backwards trying to segregate you from it.

>>97866462
None of the others in that mascot group are human, so why would they care?

>>97866473
You're mad because you're called out.

>>97866476
Hey the moment you see in the Comprehensive Rulebook what prize i get for building the most special snowflake deck using all the GCs let me know!

>>97866499
Nah you're just outing yourself because even ig your gf isnt a lib landwhale you're afraid that your future kid (you will eventually procreate and not be something that's just waiting for its own extinction right) will grow up just like the libshits we laugh at itt and you didnt do anything to nip it in the bud

The game has rules. The game's objective is to win. If you have a problem with people wanting to win, then don't play a game at all.

>>97866257

Your pod sounds miserable and soulless and your commander and deck sounds doubly so

>>97866513
That's a very specific projection anon.

>>97866520
Hit the nail on the head i know :)

>>97866530
I would probably be offended by it if I read past the first line.

>>97866518
>miserable and soulless
Just like your criticism.

>>97866542
You can always avoid being offended by not facing reality yes

How do I get over my autism and try playing with randoms?

>>97866551
>accept not everyone will think like you
>learn to compromise and that the world doesnt revolve around you
>realize that your autism is a disability and not a crown people will trip over themselves to appease you
>accept that life gave you a bad hand and that you will be the one to adjust despite your disability

>>97866462
That's racist you flaming chud. Vampires are people too!

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>>97866500
then you should be content not bothering people who clearly don't want to play with you?

>>97866551
The majority of randoms at your LGS are autistic too, which is why they're at the LGS instead of playing at home with their friends. Can't you bond with these people by you all being autistic and liking mtg?

>>97866574
Nobody is breaking and entering your basement to pubstomp your shit pod but naturally you armchair what randos do at the lgs because people playing to win triggers your autism

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about to build this cutiepie, any pitfalls to be aware of?

>>97866514
You can't win any games if nobody wants to play with you. The purpose of sportsmanship is to instill this lesson "It isn't whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game that matters"

>building fotm slop

>>97866492
is vampirism human exclusive? is kirol even human?

>>97866594
>it's how you play the game that matters
Yeah where's my prize for being le moral gamer roru rumao

>>97866599
So you derive no enjoyment from the act of playing the game itself, only in winning?

>>97866606
>i get to win and stomp you
>in exchange you have the moral superiority in your head
The fairest transaction in the world, now cry more

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>>97866376
he's not even low-t, it's shocking how different the art of him in return to lorewyn and in return to strixhaven are from each other.

>>97866596
nvm I googled it. apparently vampirism is not a disease on archivos but an actual race so kirol was born that way and propably doesn't even need blood to survive because now I stopped caring thanks to how dumb that is

>>97866599
That philosophy ends in loneliness, as I've said, nobody will play with you. You cannot win the games you don't play.

>>97866617
Who is this ugly fag meant to appeal to? Surely faggots would prefer someone like Oko to Kirol the Eddie Munster clone.

>>97866621
Incorrect because otherwise cedh wouldnt even exist, and yet it does
But it's only to be expected from an autistic person you cant understand reality, given that if your drivel was even remotely true then you wouldnt mind being pubstomped as long as you played the game 'the right way'

>>97866578
>fucking random faggots at the bar is fucking gay
>but if i fuck my faggot friends in my basement that actually makes it heterosexual
Massive cope

>>97866629
You sound like someone who has found no success in life so you take it out on others in the games you play
I pity you

>>97866550
What does any of what you're babbling about have anything to do with you not having sex?

>>97866596
Ain't seen any vampires drink goblin blood. Could be wrong.

>>97866649
>haha you dont have sex
>fuck man i cant stand these binary lgbtq shit when all they know and talk about and revolve their lives around is sex
Oof

>>97866641
>still going on with his moral superiority
>cant accept that in exchange he loses in a children's card game, perfectly balanced as all things should be
>>97866614
Now cry more

>>97866564
>>97866578
Fair points. Just gotta suck it up I suppose.

>>97866618
Um ok... what exactly do they eat and why are they called vampires if they don't act like vampire?

>>97866640
Playing with friends at home is more fun than playing with fat autistic stinky randos at the LGS, some of whom will sperg out and throw a tantrum if you cast interaction against them.

>>97866589
Check your local supermarket or school supply store and by dry erase flash cards. The cheapest you can find. You will need them for Orvar. There will be so many copies that it's nonnegotiable. He's pretty much dry erase tribal.

>>97866679
>why are they called vampires if they don't act like vampire?
presumably because they're pale and have fangs and widows peaks.

>>97866685
Anything is more fun with friends, but you're just as autistic as the lgs regulars you hate lol

I need a ruling and google isn’t helping.

Does Firebender Ascension double Avatar Aang’s card draw when firebending?

>>97866743
Seems like it

>>97866743
"no"
it doubles the firebending trigger which should make you draw twice, but it doesn't double the draw trigger itself.
the draw doesn't trigger off attacks, he draws off firebending (which triggers on attacks). you'll draw twice, but not like that specifically.

>>97866698
Sadly for you chubs, I'm not autistic, I'm just a nerd. I have to hatred towards autists, I'm simply commenting on the fact that LGS regulars tend to be hamplanets who don't bathe or rainbow haired they/thems.

>>97866773
>to hatred
*no hatred

>>97865461
>How we feeling about prepared, paradigm, etc from Strixhaven?
Prepared is the neatest mechanic in quite a while.
Paradigm is whatever.

>>97865640
Quit? I'd just quit if stuck in some hell hole like that. How is that fun? Why waste my time on that? I'd demand payment.

>>97866231
>None of this 1/3rd shit
Good
I fucking hate that crap.

>>97866499
Is this really all we're going to do, now? You're going to call me a gay loser virgin and I'm going to ask what I did wrong? I mean, let's just be honest here; the outright bile you're throwing at me for genuinely answering your question makes me think you really, really didn't like the answer I gave, and instead of arguing against it decided to fall into name-calling.

I'm really sorry, anon, but "your" people (if I'm assuming you're part of the liberally progressive crowd) are pretty much responsible for the gay-loser state of Magic the Gathering. It's not really worth bitching about because your team won. They genuinely, completely won. If you can't stand the reality of what gay corporate entertainment actually means than you really were batting for the wrong team.

Guy building the apprent tranny RW Vampire dude here. So would it be a asshole thing to add Salvagers+LED as a combo with >>97866189 ?
The way I see it, as lonng as I am not running tutors and focused on it, it should be fine right? I mean it lets me mill my library and make creatures very big, so I should be able to win from there. I'm not too sure on etiquette theses days.

>>97866812
you can't build that commander

>>97865461
prepared is great
paradigm is such a edh coded mechanic that it becomes kinda lame. You can't stack it or copy it which makes it kinda ass in constructed. cool in draft. However that also makes it kinda boring to build around. Id rather have effects that are half as strong by itself but with less restrictions to creativity.

>>97866773
>>97866779
>lgs players are either hamplanets or a blue haired they/them
>meanwhile i'm a nerd which either means i'm a 90lb weakling or a commie
It goes both ways anon lol

>>97866773
>I'm a nerd
you sound like a normie desu

>>97866679
because DEI made jotc imaginarely bankrupt

>>97866679
"Vampire" is fluid because everything is fluid. Nothing matters, you can do and become anything you want. Unless you're a Nazi, and then you're Evil.

>>97866789
I don't know if I would call that a hellhole, since at least there is some communication and respect between players.
friend of mine sometimes gets invited by some childhood friends couple for edh. when he pulled off some 4 card blink initiative combo, the boyfriend of the couple went to the bathroom and cried there for 15 minutes.

>>97866870
>I don't know if I would call that a hellhole
Anyone who tries to control what I play in my free time can hang themselves. Pay me.

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>>97866870
>the boyfriend of the couple went to the bathroom and cried there for 15 minutes

>>97866886
that DOES sound like entertainment

>>97866832
I'm a nerd who is 6'1, 200 lb 36 years old and married with a kid, but I know you will assume I'm lying so that's cool. MtG is very popular in the military.

>>97866812
*Personally* I'd be fine with someone doing that below b4 since you
>Need two cards + your commander + at least one other creature
to
>basically win via craterhoof etb
It's extremely interactable, so I'd be fine with it. In practice I assume you're actually going to be running other 'when a card leaves your graveyard' effects and maybe even storm payoffs, which can make it harder to deal with, but there are several spots where people can see what you're doing and interact to stop it.
I'm not everyone though, and some people might be mad just because you're using an expensive card like LED at all.
anyway you can also get infinite ETB/LTB/LGYs with Diamond Lion with the addition of a haste source (easy) and a cost reducer for artifacts/creatures (harder) or an ability cost reducer (literally just Heartstone and Zirda). on second thought don't bother.

>>97866900
>military
>nerd
lmfao

>>97866842
I look and behave like a normie but am actually a nerd obsessed with MtG and anime. The only thing non-nerd like about me is I am in shape because I work out and play basketball 4 times a week.

>>97866915
Sounds like you are just a normie.

>>97866923
I am that I am

>>97866870
and then your friend fucked her girl while he cried and everyone clapped

>>97866915
MtG and Anime are at best gateway nerd hobbies by now. Maybe if you got into it 20 years ago (like me), i'd maybe give it to you but now...

>>97866903
The way I have it figured
>LED+Salavgers to make infinite mana
>Now with the mana I cast the prepare spell over and over (Looping LED to reprepare) milling my deck, giving creatures haste (Anger gets milled) and trample and counters
>Win with combat
or alterntivily
>Winning with some random flashback spell of I can't combat
I've thrown together a rough deck and now I am just cutting, adding draw and more self graveyard interaction. I've ended up sorta going a Voltron route with equipment as well, but will likely end up cutting all the equips except for sword of light and shadow.

>>97866969
I've been playing since visions and watched anime my whole life.

>>97867069
ok nerd

Man, how do people enjoy running 4+ mana commanders? Well, unless the commander is just some value engine.
>3-5 turns to cast your commander and actually play the game
>immediately gets removed
>now you sit there like an idiot and are basically out of the game

>>97867099
You build so you can recast or run protection and interaction. It's not really that hard.

Alternatively, you already were waiting 3 turns to cast your commander, you set up an additional turn so when they come down you've got the shot.

Haste is your friend.

>>97867099
but 5 color good stuff doesnt rely on playing your commander? Your fine with it just being a utility piece for some situations in those decks.

>>97865946
Yeah, as I say it’s only close to not being interactable. I would really rather not see Vexing Bauble become a staple at more casual tables though. If it just copied itself in the grave it would already be much easier to get rid of

>>97867099
I play lands and cast spells. also everyone elses commander cost 4+ too with the added tax because I keep removing them

>>97867099
What do I need my commander on curve for?

>>97867099
You need to be running more ramp budski.
I think my Neera deck has like 12 mana rocks just because she costs 6 to cast.
I have a Rankle & Torbran with a treasure sub theme because it’s 5CMC and a lightning rod for removal due to constantly forcing opponents to sac their creatures

I would say in both decks I’m only “out of the game” the 3rd time either of them get removed

>>97867099
In 2026 the only commander decks that are viable are ones that don't need their commander, great format

>>97867099
if you need a commander on field to work at all then critical mass of ramp to ensure that it's dropping by ~t3

>Petrified hamlet doesn't actually turn off basics.

>why would it you griefing bastard

>because funny

>>97867296
Turns off evolving wilds at least

>stop samefagging

>>97866958
no, he said the boyfriend came out of the toilet with red eyes and his girlfriend tried to console him and kept asking him what's up while he wouldn't try to change the topic.
I remember spending new years eve for a brief moment there about a decade ago. we were sitting around this tiny kitchen table trying to not die of boredom, putting various songs on their speakers from our phones in an attempt to lighten the mood. When the girlfriend asked me to change the track during Remix Techno-Hardcore Unreal Tournament, I decided it was time to leave.

>>97865938
This could be a 4 if we were still in 2002.

>>97865938
>The games are "fast" at least in amount of turn
but not as fast as people make it out to be. games reaching t6 is pretty normal when everyone knows how to play and what to interact with. in terms of time, 2+ hour single games at cedh tournaments happen all the time.

>>97866074
Thank fuck you missed the new one in last thread. Stop reposting AI.

>>97867455
Chat, repost AI to piss this cunt off.

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Something has happened to this general. We used go have good discussions, but the past year most of my posts float on by without a single reply unless its obvious bait. I must be getting too old for this place. Weird.

Is it too ambitious to try weave landfall and lifelink together in a Tayam, Luminous Enigma deck? (which is inherently a counters-matter deck as well)
The landfall seems to be a very solid inclusion, because if there's a sacland in the graveyard, Tayam can create two landfall triggers for 3 mana and 3 counters as many times as needed. There's plenty of overlap between land and counters too.

There's also a big overlap between lifegain and reanimation, but I've had trouble finding good ways to make the lifegain mesh with counters or landfall.
Betor, Ancestor's Voice is in counters and lifegain and revives, but the revives care about life loss rather than life gain.
Shelinda, Yevon Acolyte is a great source of counters that happens to have lifelink, but no lifegain payoffs.

>>97867564
Only takes 1 or 2 terminally online people to drive the quality of a general down whenever one of their many, many schizo triggers appear.

>>97867564
Same shit different flavor in my opinion.

>>97867570
Oh right, I forgot Summon: Ixion which is another counters+lifegain card (in second and third act), but that card was an easy include anyway because of how disgustingly powerful the first act becomes when Tayam can cause it to repeat indefinitely.

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>>97867471
No. Anon's right and you're a fag.

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>>97867471
Got you boss

>>97866773
>I'm not autistic
Who do you think you're fooling, and where do you think we are?

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AI = An Indian. Always.

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>>97867471

>>97867608
Your mom

>>97867628
Holy based

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>>97867471
Hello there.

>>97867637
>>97867471
>>97867455
>>97866074
It's cute you think anyone would save, let alone repost, your shit Swordfag.

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>>97867099
I run oodles of ramp because I can just convert excess mana into a gorillion cards.

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>b-b-b-but you did something to fake it.
If I were swordfag, a retard who trips and loves girls with dicks and dog dicks, why would I have such shame to samefag?
Delusional retardfuck. Maybe people just like things and you're actually the insufferable taintlicker.

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All me btw

>>97867658
Kinda this. Swordfag is so beyond shameless that I doubt samefagging to defend himself ever crosses his mind and instead he just replies to every hate post like it's friendly conversation. Dude is way off the deep end.

>>97867628
dangerously based

>>97867665
Trvth
>>97867658
Obvious fake, I can tell by the pixels

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>>97867646
ENF gets me off. I saved all of it.

>>97867676
Then go request shit in any of the other places he lurks like /vg/ and /trash/. This isn't even related to edh, let alone board appropriate.

>>97867682
>magic the gathering characters aren't related to magic the gathering
>no actual nudity.
Nah. You can fuck off wanna-be hall monitor taddletale clit denier.

>>97867682
Well technically it is related since they're all mtg characters from what I know so he's fine

>>97867697
>>97867695
>/tg/ should allow MY fetish
No!

>>97867707
>/tg/ shouldn't allow anything that personally don't like!
You are literally no different. Go fist your own asshole retard.

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>his commander isn't a value engine
what's the point?

>>97867216
>Removal hasn't actually gotten better, people just reflexively kill commanders now because of how many are setup+payoff on same card and win by breathing

>>97867711
"value engine" is such a nebulous term.
>Commander does something to progress your gameplan in anyway.
>VaLuE eNgInE

>>97867707
>/tg/ should allow MY fetish
correct

>>97867707
Literally yes. Multiple tabletop corporations support their fetishes in their game, therefore it's allowed.

>>97867749
>>97867738
>>97867710
>>>/trash/
>>>/e/
>>>/aco/
Stop samefagging.

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>>97867753
Is this going to become that thing where you start shrieking in agony because somebody has different preferences than you?

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>>97867682
Qrd on why swordsbro is so hated?

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>>97867753
no, also how is Bloomburrow? I never brought the set yet

>>97867760
Tripfag, constantly flexes expensive cards he didn't even buy, annoying "i'm so cool everyone should like me" attitude, autistic fat retard.

>>97867760
He trips.
Which makes some people unreasonably angry. Which them makes people look through history to find any crumb to make fun of, which lead to people finding out he's into futa, but specifically, futas with dog dicks.

>>97867760
Too based for this world.

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>>97867099
I pretty consistently wipe the board on turn 3/4 to nail everyone playing cheap commanders. You must punish the decks going faster than you and do some set up.

>>97867762
>>97867760
Also a futatranny

>>97867798
Pretty mundane by 4chan standards.

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how expensive will this be?

>>97867803
>one of the worst tutors imaginable
Yeah no one even plays Diabolic Tutor, this is 2 more mana to do the same thing.

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>>97865461
wow those are some LARGE breasts, what is up with GōtC allowing THAT>???? seeing a feminine body like that really triggers body dysmorphia (its not a mental illness!) and unrealistic beauty goals (unless you are a grown woman and have been pregnant) so WHAT GIVES

>>97867761
lots of cute and fun critters, I want to get the red green rakins pre-con to tune up just because it looks fun

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>>97867815
It does have some adorable art, I might get me a box soon

>>97867803
wow GōtC is trying so hard to sell this "Harry Potter at home" set. Very cringey and hilarious. Fire everyone in the design team and play testing team immediately with no severance package

>>97867822
forced meme

>>97867760
Ancient 4chan culture from nigh 20 years ago. HECKIN TRIPFAG BAD! NOW THROW A FIT AND DERAIL THE THREAD! ANONYMOOSE IS LEGUN!
He is on topic, contributes. It's just shitty fitting in 4chan culture shit from retards who don't understand it isn't 2005.

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>Release good stuff in UB
>WOW ITS LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THEIR OWN FRANCHISE
>Release good stuff in-universe
>WOW THEY ARE REALLY PUSHING [Woke] SET OMG EVERYONE SHOULD BE FIRED!

>>97867682
Oh fuck off. I have to put up with you whining about DEI and trannies
>NO THAT IS TOTALLY EDH RELATED
Fuck off.

>>97867707
dumb fuck you LITERALLY keep putting fetish porn in the god damn OP

>>97866356
What is UB?

>>97867764
Why would he post that with his trip on?

>>97867841
except its not "good stuff". Ancestral Recall, Channel and Demonic Tutor reprints would be fucking SWEET.

stapling them onto a creature is like making a billboard saying "hey check this out!" but is all hype since the total casting cost is astronomically more than the original spell would be

its desperate cheap design/marketing and its very homosectual

>>97867859
>Its bad because I don't like it!
I don't care. You are cringe.

>>97867859
Those should all be banned, not reprinted.

>>97867854
because he doesn't care?

>>97867813
Counterpoint: It says "Demonic Tutor" so retards will run it.

>>97867803
This feels like the Hexing Squelcher of this set.
It will be *just fine* when the dust settles, but I'm sure the talking heads will be trumpeting it.

>>97867864
youre a fucking retard. its bad because the cards are bad and they're trying to somehow conflate the added ability given to these cards with "ooo wow amazing powerful old cards"

bad design, cheap design, cheap marketing ploy by delusional trannies who are mentally ill and how no business designing or marketing anything to do with MTG

>>97867872
>6 mana to get 1 tutor off
These cards aren't that good.

>>97867872
Hexing Squelcher is an actual good card, this is just a shitty expensive tutor

>>97867803
25ish if it doesn't become a good card in standard. 50+ if it does.

>the reusable tutor that is also a creature is.... le bad!

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>>97867886
Just pay 2 more mana and play this, its infinitely better.

>>97867886
That's exactly right.

>>97867803
Totally unplayable in standard. Must run for every timmies aristocrats deck. Considering no one plays standard and commander timmies drive market value, easily a $50 card

>>97867803
probably like $5-25 depending on if it's any good on its own or, more likely, it gets noticed by the Edgar Markov players

>>97867913
>no one plays standard
I wish.

>>97867927
People still play standard, huh? Name every standard player then.

>>97867886
how many 6 mana tutors do you run

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>>97867930
>Name every standard player then.
FUUUUUUUCK

>>97867930
well there's uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>97867841
>release good UW stuff?
What good stuff? Show the wordbuilding that's better than the inevitable Harry Potter UB

>>97867930
Jackie Chan