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>New Edition, to a great wailing and gnashing of teeth:
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『Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis』
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>What size magnets do I need?
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>Legions Imperialis Army Builder
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>Thread Question:
Should Custodes really have vehicles?
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>>97903578
>Should Custodes really have vehicles?
They wouldn't be able to properly execute their function as bodyguard of the Emperor without them. But I really hate the Eldar grav tank rip-offs that cuckstodes got, so ugly.
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>>97903578
Man I saw one of these in person recently and Jesus christ they're so big. Bigger than their stats or the pictures imply. And yet, even they don't look like they could actually fit 7 custodes inside once you take away to grav nacelles lol.
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>>97903578
yeah but they should have been more like sisters style parade floats
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>>97903578
Slowly building a unit of cavalry for 1.0 following mournival's imperial army homebrew.
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>>97903629
Meant for >>97903601. Kinda of a shame that through all of the damned's kits there isn't a single left hand holding a machete because ak47 autogun+machete would shred imo.
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>>97901524
>Command squad stands on objective worth 3 VP
Units cannot be deployed on or end movement on objective markers.
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>>97903652
It obviously meant in range of the objective and around it, not literally physically on the objective marker, autist-kun.
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Thanks for the replies back in the previous thread, I have a follow-up question: did the Incubi exist during the Heresy as well? I'm getting very mixed messages when searching for it.
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>>97903714
Probably, yes. Aspect warriors from the oldest shrines show up in HH novels, and some sources (6th edition eldar codex iirc) say Arhra betrayed the other Phoenix Lords shortly after the Fall of the Eldar.
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>>97903578
>TQ

Big guns to go with having the best fighters and premium dreadnoughts is fine. It's Sisters that should fulfill many of the other odd niches they don't bother with, with psykers obviously off-limits, but GW gutted the fuck out of them in 3.0, so...

Now when will they do an Aquilon Shield-Captain? Coasting on effectively one HQ and a half for however long in Heresy is pretty fucking lousy.
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>>97903578
>TQ
Why not?
You are hardpressed to counter enemy vehicles with infantry alone, unless terrain is high or you have high speed to get in to melta range.
As they are a fighting force, not having vehicles would be very odd.
I'm more surprised the venatari do not have more dedicated anti-vehicle gear.
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>>97903633
Yeah, the lack of options for offhand items is really a shame. Besides that, this range is amazing.
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Two more dudes done, technically sergeants but their squads probably aren't going to get painted
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>>97903941
Nice, that combibolter reminds me of Borderlands with that rectangular scope. Where’d you get the scope and the spear?
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>>97903578
>you've got the touch
>you've got the powerrrrrr
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>>97903993
The spear is from Moloch, the minotaur guy, the bolter is the SoH banestrike bolter from the kit
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>>97903578
>TQ
Why the hell not? Should the Emperor's Ten Thousand be obliged to walk onto the enemy's guns without their own fire support?

>>97903629
Any demand for an Imperial Army homebrew in 3.0? I was going to write one for 2.0 but procrastinated so much the new edition came out.
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>>97904016
I don't play 3.0 but don't let that stop you from hammering out an army list. Here's the mournival stuff for 1.0 if you want a starting point
mega.nz/folder/pRBSgAxZ#wsz_TBnE0BxjUw8GWEWK9g
Imperialis auxilia has the imperial army.
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>>97903668
>erm ackshually
Shut the fuck up faggot. Retards like you are why GW had to clarify that conceding is a game loss.
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>>97903601
Postin
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>tq
Transports yes, tanks no, their job is to catch bullets for EMoney, not get into slap fights with enemy armour.
The same reasoning sorta as why I headcanon muh dudes to have all their vehicles operated by servitors, Astartes have advantages over humans in every respect sure, but their greater ones are being tougher, stronger and faster, which comes into play most in hand to hand combat, not sitting in the driver's seat of a rhino.
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>>97903601
Great color on your SoH. I like it.
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got a ton of old male custards primed gold, is the forge world scheme just a green wash and highlights?
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>>97903601
Slowly working on gunline dreads
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hello lads!
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>>97903941
why no squad paint?
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>>97902279
Man, your making my credit card finger twitch....making me consider a nemesis over an OG Thunderhawk from wartable...

>>97904254
Holy fucking SHIT the saturnine dread is massive....
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>>97904605
>Thunderhawk from wartable
From wartable?
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>>97904608
Nice try James
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>>97904622
OH its a recaster got it. Say no more.
Ithought it was like a print shop that sold STLs of "legally distinct thunderhawks"
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freaky Friday!
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>>97903714
no eldar didn't exist in heresy no aliens did they only spawned later because of chaos or something all mentions of aspect shrines, harlequins, ork raiders, squats, rangdan or other aliens during, immediately before and immediately after the heresy are all lies.
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>>97904678
Unfortunately it is a pretty fucking dire game. People only like it because they liked epic, they are not at all of comparable quality
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>>97904537
is that a fiskars mat? I have the same one
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>>97904678
>olden demon
mega fag, defends 10e on literal sales and popularity grounds. opinion discarded.
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>>97904865
It is indeed anon, good eye
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>>97904404
Looks like flesh shade or sepia over the bulk of the model, with something like sotek green in very specific places around rivets and similar.
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>>97904864
nobody liked epic, netepic was people who couldn't admit they'd invested too much time in an unfun game gritting their teeth and making it worse instead of admitting defeat
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>>97905077
excellent choice. served me well on many tabletop projects
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>>97905100
that's pretty on the nose for the horus heresy general of all places
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>>97904678
>Grifters posting clickbait/ragebait hyperbole
In other news, water is wet.
Also, buy an ad.
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>>97904537
>Havoc launcher on the plasma dread
Nothing personal, but after the launch of 3.0 every time I see anybody put havoc launchers on stuff I automatically assume they are a faggot.
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>>97904537
Traitor XIXth my beloved
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>>97904605
Do it, titans are cooler than giant planes

I just started on a pre-owned reaver, already built but needs a repaint

>>97905162
not him but looks > rules
3/4/5/6.0 will come and go but havoc launchers will still look cool
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>>97905162
>I hate that GW finally made a shit weapon half decent
?????
Also fuck you they look cool as shit.
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>>97905251
>a weapon is half decent because it inflicts a status as part of a contrived system no one asked for
different strokes I guess
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>>97905162
I always put havoc launchers on my dudes cause more gun equals more shootan
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>>97905251
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>>97905269
no its half decent now because it adds a status and blast rules made it so that small blast actually hits its target more often then not.

Thats why its better. in 1.0 and 2.0 statistically speaking, small blast MISSED more then it would hit.
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>>97905151
yeah but at least we're not maintaining a rulebook, can you imagine the slop we'd birth
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>>97905288
I don't need to imagine I've seen the kind of shit people spew as rule "improvements" unironically
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>>97905336
I have a rules improvement I'm giving custodian guards plasma cannons I think it will be a great way to fight back against overpowered units like custodian guards
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>>97905195
Noice. I currently have a reaver, two legit warhounds and a recast warhound from wartable. Would grab it but I might have to wait a bit as I JUST found a different recasting site that actually claims to have the OG Aquilla Lander, ive been looking for one of those forever to add to my ever increasing resin fentanyl collection....
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>>97905459
I have a reaver and warhound built but needing repaint and a second warhound unbuilt in box. all legit but secondhand. gives me my favourite Titanicus maniple (venator) to take to TOC events here in the UK.

need to find some decent files for warhound voliktes and meltaguns though
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>>97905459
>two legit warhounds
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I wanna make a SA army but I suck at painting so i'm just going to do krieg nd keep using my scuffed mecanicum list
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>>97905548
Isn't it possible to figure out some fool proof colour scheme for SA, with a lot of shades/washes? The models look textured enough for it.
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>>97905548
I was having a really hard time figuring out what I wanted to paint and this video was great, tried them all out and really liked the Agathon recolor.
https://youtu.be/Zg2aHqXP3q4?si=XimKDdr9Ash7oxYr
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>>97905570
I saw a tutoria where the guy painted the armour the just coloured the rest of the model around it, might try that
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>>97905548
Solar aux aren't any more difficult to paint than kreigers, assuming you painted them. The armour is quite raised so you can do the under suit first then tidy up when you do the armour. they take contrast very well too.
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He's getting closer and closer to completion, I keep getting sidetracked with other painting projects. Also finished a metric fuckton of terrain and printing out an Imperial Fortress.
Post some fatties anons
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>>97905662
Ye I started painting krigers, I don't think they look as bad, i thought the krigers would be hard, but they aren't at all
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>>97905701
that doesn't look nearly as bad as you implied, and cameras always make your models look worse.
looks like you're staying within the lines, managing to pick out straps and the tiny eagles.

Solar aux won't be any worse than that.
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>>97905732
Thank you, i think i just get in my own head, I'll try my SA once I've finished my krieg
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I'd noticed a couple of days ago that A Thousand Sons had received a second audiobook narration. So I decided to do a bit of a test, by mixing both.
>Narration by Gareth Armstrong, and dialogue by Martin Ellis:

https://voca.ro/128wfj3peErD
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Which Warhound pattern is best Warhound pattern?
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>>97905896
I do be liking mars, but i also like the lucius pattern alot, but im going to say mars....because i own one....
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>>97905904
I think the Mars is an objectively better design honestly.
But that fortress look of the Lucius... daddy like
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>>97905896
Depends on personal preference. I just like the brutal, blocky look of the Lucius pattern more.
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>>97905504
I know someone here knows where to get a volkite for a full sized warhound, but of course when you ask them where they got it its just shitty memes about james and recasters getting "shut down" if theyre EVER mentioned.
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>>97904593
I built them for 2.0 and changed my oaths so the loadout isn't appealing, and I ripped 2 for bits so now it's a weird squad of 8, and I'm not really interested in cataphractii since I'm not using my warmonger like I was planning.
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>>97905283
>small blast MISSED more then it would hi
How many scatter dice did they use to roll?
>>97904663
I like EC as Paragons / Obsessed with perfection better than Muh Excess.
Like, turns out Slaanesh isn't the Lord of Excess. It's the Lord of Sex Drugs and Rock & Roll Specifically. 360 no scope? Pfft here's a guitar faggot
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>>97904683
I love that xenos saw the monkeighs busy killing each other and all collectively decided to do a galactic cease fire.
Nah jk, they did attack while humies weren't looking...but we collectively don't care and are too busy literally counting rivets on armour
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>>97906088
Blasts used to always be 2D6 scatter, minus BS, unless you rolled a hit. For BS 4 this meant scattering 3" was the most likely result.
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>>97906088
>How many scatter dice did they use to roll?
same as everything else, 2d6.
And average scatter would be 7" - BS which was 4, meaning you scattered on average 3" problem is, scattering 3" means you miss a 32mm target, and just barely clip a 40mm target.
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>>97906088
WE HAVE SUCH SOUNDS TO SHOW YOU
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>>97906088
>I like EC as Paragons / Obsessed with perfection better than Muh Excess.
That's the best way for them to be in HH, starting them down the path of Slaanesh. And I'm fine with them devolving over 10,000 years into "muh excess" by 40k.
Though you have to admit, Fulgrim always was a bit excessive.
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>>97906177
And as I paint them up, EC's unique models do have an absolutely excessive amount of fucking trim.
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>>97906088
>scatter
To follow up on what everyone else said: Your BS didn't help you land direct hits. Your BS3 Militia fire support squad had the same chance of landing a direct hit with a frag missile as your BS5 Veteran Tacticals; that is, 1/3, because the scatter die had 2 hit faces. It was OK on bigger targets and/or bigger blasts because you couldn't scatter far enough to actually miss, but it got to the point where plasma TSS were actually stronger than plasma HSS purely because you couldn't count on your plasma cannons to hit infantry model, whereas the plasma gun was just straight up 2 shots at BS4.
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>>97906262
>Your BS didn't help you land direct hits.
I mean it kinda did.
You could roll a direct hit, but the high your BS, the higher you had to roll before you started to scatter
With a BS of 4, rolling a 2, 3 or 4 on the scatter die was just as good as rolling a direct hit. So i mean yeah it did kinda matter.

BUT yes, The reason scatter sucked in 1.0 and 2.0 is because GW had been using the same scatter template size since 3rd, and the problem is bases did not stay the same size, so it was a lot harder to get more hits.

But yeah large templates did not have this problem becusae 2d6 - BS4 resulted in a hit on the intended target on average with a large blast .

Either way 3.0 blast rules? Big brained.
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>>97906262
A nuncio vox (provided re-rolls for scatter in 2.0) did make plasma cannon hss quite reliable. But resolving up to 10 scatters with re-rolls took forever, easily doubled the duration of a shooting phase.
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>>97906319
plus the other thing always was....you could just take las canons for the same cost iirc

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