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PNSO announced they're joining the articulated dinosaur toy game. Looks pretty decent, though the range of motion doesn't seem very impressive. Seeing as they will be directly competing with Creative Beast, hopefully this will force David to finally improve his dogshit paint apps.
Also, fucking lmao at the dweebs at Dinosaur Toy Forum absolutely malding over this not being statueshit.
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Speaking of T. rex and Creative Beast, the 2.0 they showed off on stream actually looked alright in terms of movement. It's basically what the first one should've been to begin with. Though, inevitably, it'll be ruined by the paint.
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Obviously, but this is more comparable since they're both doing plausible reconstructions rather than film creatures.
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So, I PO’s 2 andrewsarchuses from Creative beast. One I’m keeping as-is but the other I’m gonna do a head-transplant onto the upcoming movie version of MOTU’s Battle Cat and mod the claws into hooves so I can have the all-but-disproven mesonychian reconstruction in articulated form. Thoughts?
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Hyped for this macho man
Gotta find some clothes to put him in, like a wifebeater or something
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oops, wrong post reply. meant for >>11725505
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>>11724781
>PNSO
>lips
Guess the guy who runs PNSO finally caved in huh? I know he was an advocate for lipless Rex for the longest time.
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Kek
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oh hey, finally another dinosaur thread.
Anybody else pre-order their Nanmu Rex off of BBTS?
Was curious because now that everyone else seems to be getting theirs, mine still hasn't shipped, and I wanted to check and see if that's just a "BBTS takes longer than other stores" thing or not.
I only ask because I have literally never pre-ordered a toy before and so anything even going slightly not to plan is making me paranoid that my order specifically is fucked for some reason.
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>>11725052
Wow this looks good. If the retard can actually release more things and stop posting about how terrible his life is and how he can't do anything ever he'd be doing alright.
>>11724781
Exciting stuff, hope they don't just stick to very well known species for these now that they're doing articulation. They've done so many interesting models over the years, would hate for them to start back at just basic dinos now that they're experimenting with articulation. Their water creatures and fliers have been stellar, hope we see some of them get this treatment.
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BBTS will literally not get it for months compared to everyone else. They are good for guaranteed orders that you don't need to pay for until they're in, and of course the cheap combined shipping. But they make up for this with higher prices and they choose boat shipping for all their stuff to allow for the cheap combined shipping. This means while every other retailer gets stuff off a plane and to you in a few weeks max, BBTS will be much, much longer. But don't panic, totally normal.
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>>11726296
Alright, good to know, thank, anon.
My only real context with BBTS was two other orders I made before for SHF dragon ball stuff, and since one of those things came in and was available for normal order while it was still only available for pre-order on Amazon, I just assumed that meant BBTS was good about getting newer things shipped out faster.
Guess I just gotta be patient.
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>>11726263
Dinosaurs should be used more in medieval settings specially if said setting is meant to be somewhat grounded. They are the closest thing the planet has had to dragons except for maybe the giant pterosaurs
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>>11725353
this excuse would be fine if any of these actually had decent revoltech esque articulation that allowed things like the head and neck to have really great range of motion, or the legs to actually be able to get into crouching positions etc, but they're all barely movable. I don't know why we've needed 150 releases from Creative Beast Studio before they started to improve articulation but it's annoying as fuck. Like they really could just print a few of them, and improve them, and print a few more, and improve them. Go through a few rounds of prototypes instead of selling people a hundred different releases at $100+ each before they bother.
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I truly don't understand it. The entire thing is that every release is the most articulated dinosaur ever, and then the engineering for most of them means that despite being made out of 25-35+ separate pieces many of them have stiff limbs, even stiffer necks and torsos and mouths that can barely open etc. I get that for decades we had basically only dino statues but damn. It always feels like such a chore moving most of these guys around for me. At least the small ones are nice and easy and pose pretty well.
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Something i've realized with BOTM articulation is that if you are rough with them you get a little bit more range. I feel people are too scared of breaking them that they don't move them to their full potential. Still not as good as something like Nanmu tho
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>>11726514
Still new to the line and I have to agree with this. I've noticed the same, though, I am a little gun-shy after the foot peg tore off when I tried to remove it from one of my Dromeosaurus when I was just trying to change out one of the swappable feet. Granted, as far as I'm aware it's also one of their oldest figures so I suppose that checks out.
But the legs especially have way better range if you just push it a little further than you might think may be okay. Most especially in how high they can kick. The legs can go so much higher than I think most are willing to try.
Here's hoping that 2.0 Rex is successful and it makes them reevaluate how important real goddamned articulation is.
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All I'm saying is, if Haolonggood isn't the first company to make a Haolong toy, then there is truly no God. Also BoTM is making a Spicomellus and I'm just wondering how the spikes are gonna be. Because it's one of three things.
>Frail as fuck and break easily
>Rubber so they're not actually sharp
>Sharp enough to classify as a mace
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>>11724781
that articulation looks like dogshit, man.
>Also, fucking lmao at the dweebs at Dinosaur Toy Forum absolutely malding over this not being statueshit.
why are statue collectors the most annoying collectors on earth?
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Ross isn't a dumb ass, he's just annoying with the fact that he cares more about sculpt fidelity than articulation. Comparing the polar bear he did for hasbro to the Sabertooth he did for Creative Beasts is like night and day.
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>>11726575
Have to ask them during the next live stream. People only asked about the range of articulation and whether it was gonna be able to roll into a ball.
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>>11725195
But the BOTM Rex 2.0 will have it
I'm so annoyed that the Rex is going to have toe articulation, but the fucking Acro isn't
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>>11726599
Forgot to post the Twitter link of the articulation showcase
https://x.com/TMtheEQplusNerd/status/2026863350957973780
Glad I skipped the first Rex, I'd be pretty mad if I paid $200 for a glorified statue
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>>11726514
half the people who collect BOTM do not understand that you need to nuke your figures to free up the joints and that allows them to be more expressive. Chris can say, "You need to warm up your figure every video that he does on a figure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHoKwAVzsCQ
and yet you will still get people who won't heat them up and work them.
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>>11726622
I'm happy that I finally have figures that can scale well with it, because of how smal it looks
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>>11726906
I like the HC Trike as well, the horns especially look good. I just would like it more if it were the size of the Stegosaurus.
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>>11727073
I'd say there's very few hammond collection figures that are perfect(my favorited are the Cerato and the white atrociraptor) with things like all the wildly inconsistent ever changing eyes, opening mouths being worse on many of the dinos than their cheaper mainline counterparts, noticable paint rub at torso and neck joints, those new stupid swap out mouths and articulation issues/quirks like the rex torso getting floppy or the weird restrictions on the carnotaur neck etc.
But having affordable, available, and easily PLAYABLE dino toys for $15-30-50 dollars instead of $150 and having them move half as much at best in many cases, getting advice like "you have to heat them up every time you move them" with BotM is really no contest. I've gotten and kept almost every Hammond collection dino, where I've sold most of my creative beast stuff and have way less on order. For the cost the value just isn't there, in many cases they are actively worse. I know it's a small company vs a large but the reasons don't really matter when the finished product is such a chore, and ultimately, less fun for me.
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>>11727416
The main problem with CB figures is the higher prioritization of sculpt vs articulation. Yes, CB figures aren’t literal statues, but posing and display options aren’t very dynamic because the range of motion is less than other lines. Yes, for sculpt and most of the paint jobs (latter being a personal opinion only) CB stuff looks great. But posing them is so disappointing. I have both the Mattel HC Allosaurus and the CB Allosaurus jimmadsenni and the Mattel is just so much more fun to mess around with. If the CB wasn’t so damn pricy I’d be willing to kitbash it with various aftermarket and 3D printed joint systems to make it better at posing.
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Oh definitely. I always dunk my BOTM in hot water after opening them up and that really helps to get more range and flexibility in their articulation.
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>>11727609
>inion only) CB stuff looks great. But posing them is so disappointing. I have both the Mattel HC Allosaurus and the CB Allosaurus jimmadsenni and the Mattel is just so much more fun to mess around with.
Cant relate
I love the CB A.fragillis and A. jimmadseni
They are way more enjoyable to mess around with than the HC Allosaurus. The Nanmu Tyrannosaurs are the only dino figures that feel anywhere near as fun to fuck around with.
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>>11727658
I kind of regret selling my 1/35 rex. It'll probably get a 2.0 replacement like the 1/18, but it'd be cool to have a pack of Tyrannosaurs
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Dryosaurus
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They're fun little guys. I really enjoy them
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>>11727806
Lanatime is carrying their newer figures now and they are a Chinese based shop that ship's internationally. I believe there is a british store that supplies most of Europe but I dont remember its name. I am American I cant tell you about whether CB ships internationally, but you can probably email them or ask in one of their livestreams
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I still don't get why they thought having a seperate mouth piece was a good idea instead of a classic hinge jaw. Even if they had to go with the mouth piece, you couldn't have lined up the seam with the mouth so it looks slightly less off?
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>>11728222
It's weird because both of the other small figures in the wave had fine jaw articulation
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>>11728337
Honestly if they were gonna go with a static jaw they should have just gone with 2 different heads that you can swap out.
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>>11728725
I am mildly annoyed that CB keeps using blood effects when showing off the Stego BTFOing the Allosaurus, but doesnt make their own.
I'd love if they sold mutilated/battle damaged parts. The wounded Old Buck doesnt really count since that's a whole second figure
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>>11728893
Hopefully the 2.0 trike will have swappable horns since they are totally resculpting the head. I'm a bit suprised the Carno doesnt come with any broken horns since it is coming with so many alternate horns to swap around and the Mammoth with was designed after the Carno has a broken tusk.
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Allo got himself a new Real Doll.
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>>11729274
Slander!
Blue Brow was just bringing a meal to his lady friend. He's a hopless romantic.
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>>11729584
With the Nanmu Carno running like $230 on Ebay, the cheapest option for a carnotaurus is the Cyberzoic Carno for $109.
https://cyberzoic-toys.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders/587870
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It’s herbivores you gotta really watch out for. I need to swing by the closest Target for these fuckers.
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>>11729615
>that carno
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The carno has swappable horns so the Groucho Marx brows aren't manditoray.
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>>11730213
The leaks said we were supposed to be getting Indominus later this year, but there hasnt been a Beyond the Gates in months. Mattel may be slowing down the HC to a crawl.
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I dont think they ever showed up at Target. I got my three from Amazon.
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>>11730395
Carnotaurus: Hammond Collection. Will probably change to BOTM once it releases but who knows
Tyrannosaurus: Nanmu articulated Buck
Spinosaurus: There isn't a single paleo spino that i can think of. But the HC one is pretty cool
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>>11730395
I'm a very generic carnivore kinda guy
Giganotosaurus: the HC Giga is the only one so i guess it's my favorite even though it looks more like Acrocanthosaurus.
Tyrannosaurus: the Nanmu Buck
Allosaurus: the Botm Allosaurus
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Is the Hammond Collection Allosaurus any good? I watched a few reviews and everyone seems to love him even if posing him can be a bit annoying. To be honest I'm a bit out of the loop, in my time dino toys had no articulation at all and were solid plasic. You guys think his rubber tail and teeth will last or "rot" away in a year or two?
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>>11731065
from what I've seen, he's pretty great specifically if you like the articulation. It's easier and has more freedom to pose than, for instance, the creative beast allos, so really the big sticking point is whether or not you like the design itself.
Though if you just want any Allo with good articulation, I'd say you should ideally wait for Nanmu to do their broken-jaw Allo.
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>>11731067
>i don't like the design
what's wrong with it in your opinion?
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>creative beast
>Nanmu to do their broken-jaw Allo.
I just looked them up , I have to say I do like the color of the cb one but somehow he looks "wrong" to me, can't explain it. The nanmu one doesn't seem to even have a prototype yet.
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>>11731091
There are two different designs for the CB one. One is the Beasts of the Mesozoic one (green, fragilis) and the Cyberzoic one (jimmadseni) if the head is the part that's throwing you off. Personally I don't like the colors on the green one myself.
There's also the two smaller versions of both of these, with the smaller cyberzoic one having a completely different color scheme of its own for some reason.
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>>11731065
The articulation on the HC Allosaurus is mid. It's side to side range is meh, even when using both the neck and head. The lack of a torso cut limits how expressive you can get him in comparison to the CB Allosaurus which is in general a much more fun and fluid figure to pose ( except maybe the tail since it's 3 segments and not a long bendywire).
If you want an Allosaurus but dont want to spend $120 on the CB 1/18, I'd recommend the upcoming CB 1/35 Allosaurs or the Nanmu 1/35 Allosaurus.
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>>11731091
>he looks "wrong" to me, can't explain it
Which one? fragilis or jimmadsenni?
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Amazon Leak for Hammond Collection Scorpius rex
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>>11731319
>non-hinged mouth
Eh, I get that it’s cheaper engineering-wise plus no soft rubber cheek muscles to rear or rot, but I prefer more than two jaw poses with predators.
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I was talking about the green one and I do like the green in general. Maybe my problem with it are the turkey eyes. Is the other (on that picture) not the Hammond one?
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>The articulation on the HC Allosaurus is mid.
You're the first one I hear saying this.
>torso cut
does that really make such a big difference? It looked like it offers barely any extra movement in the comparison I've watched.
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>>11731385
>Is the other (on that picture) not the Hammond one?
It's the Hammond Collection Allosaurus. I posted the wrong picture it was supposed to be the cyberzoic jimmadsenni which is the same species as the JW Allosaurus.
>You're the first one I hear saying this.
I just really dislike it's neck and head articulation. They are an improvement on the Carno, but the limitations it has looking to the side are annoying. I would probably be kinder to it if I didnt loath the design.
>does that really make such a big difference?
On its own the torso cut doesnt add a ton, but in conjunction everything else, it adds up.
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It's too jurassic-worldy if that makes sense. I don't like the drab coloration (which to be fair is much better in the toy than in the movie model), the face is ugly and the i don't like when they add osteoderms and spikes to dinosaurs not known to have had them.
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It's honestly impressive just how fucking bad the BOTM looks.
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>>11731388
that is indeed a huge difference.
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>WDRTE pose
what is that? Even google has no clue.
>>11731389
They do kinda look like a different species here.
Am I really the only one here that likes the Hammond Allosaurus look?
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>>11731619
>Am I really the only one here that likes the Hammond Allosaurus look?
I don't mind the look, myself. My only real issue is the HC is that I'm probably the only weirdo who prefers the more washed out colors of the Movie/Big Rock Allo over the HC version of that color scheme.
It'd be nice if someone did the Frontier design for the Adult Allo as a toy, I actually think that's the best Jurassic series Allo design, with the JPOG allo being a close second. Wish that one had a toy too.
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>what is that? Even google has no clue.
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>>11731568
I'm not a fan of how fleshy the lips look or that it seems to be leaning too heavily into the inaccurate Sue reconstruction that makes her look obese, but the paint work is leagues better than the BotM rex.
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>Am I really the only one here that likes the Hammond Allosaurus look?
I just cant vibe with the modifications they made to the head. It looks like a fucked up attempt to splice a Torvosaurus with an Allosaurus to create some kind of generic carnosaur. Then there is the issue with it's hands. Just like the Baryonyx they nerfed Allosaurus's big old hand claws. I'm not as bothered by others by the iguana spikes and the feature scales though which seems to be a lot of people's issue with the design.
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>>11731757
They did the same thing with the Baryonyx
Universal makes some weird design decisions.
The utter refusal to just give us a full-sized dilo despite the fact that it would make it so much more intimidating. They don't even need to take away the venom and the frill, just make it that big in an appearance or two.
Or how they've permanently locked the jurassic series version of Moros into this tiny, cat-sized thing when the real thing was like, the size of a JP velo.
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>bottom looks flat, like it has no sculping what so ever on his body.
That's because the PNSO dude is mega autistic about dinosaur anatomy and dinosaurs had really tiny scales that would be basically invisible in 1/35 scale
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>>11731568
Oof. I always thought the default colors on the BOTM looked weird but now I'm even more glad I stuck with the muted colors of the WWD version.
>>11731684
This. Allosaurus has such a distinguishable head shape that the HC/Universal design feels way too streamlined for my tastes.
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>>11731816
>PNSO dude is mega autistic
Pretty much. I think it looks okay but when it comes to toys, a bit of exagerration in the texture/sculpt really does help because otherwise the scales would look too smooth in 1/35 scale even if it might be more realistic.
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>>11730395
Baryonyx: Hammond Collection but I'd like to see a more paleo-styled one outside of JP.
T-Rex: Sadly, my most favorite Rex sculpt is from a statue with only jaw articulation (pic-related). While the Nanmu looks phenomenal, I have a weird rule of collecting JP-style dinos strictly from Mattel (though the Nanmu pair are still oh-so tempting). The next best thing I have is the 1/35 BOTM Rex in WWD colors, but I'm hoping their upcoming 2.0 will be the one I'm looking for. Their juvenile Rex is probably one of my favorite dino figures to pose around.
Allosaurus: 1/18 BOTM all the way. Easily the best Allosaurus by far, and I'm partial to the Fragilis version since it's the Allosaurus skull design I'm most familiar with. Looking forward to the 1/35 versions.
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>>11724781
Dinosaurs are lame and gay
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>>11731823
>stuck with the muted colors of the WWD version
The standard is way too ambitious in its colors. They look fine when David paints the prototype, but they look like ass when the final product comess out, especially in those earlier figures
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>>11732100
It's so obvious when the best looking dinos they've ever put out are the ones with the simplest paint jobs. Something like the Pachyrhino with its simple two tone color scheme and not a bunch of striped spotted bullshit all over its face and back.
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>>11732377
And he also really needs to learn when a coloration should be finished. For example the T. rex REALLY doesn't need those horrible looking stripes on its snout. Hell i really wish the coloration was as simple as in that figure's art
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>>11732100
>They look fine when David paints the prototype
lol lmao >>11726575
David can sculpt like a motherfucker, but his paint jobs are always shoddy. He needs to invest in an airbrush instead of arcade machines. Or better yet, let someone else do the paint masters.
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>>11732447
Mutodon looks good
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>>11732449
JWR dilo
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>>11732450
What the fuck is this guy?
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>>11732451
And last is Indominus
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>>11732461
You were right
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>>11732472
No, we still need Maiasaura
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>>11732473
>painted teeth instead of rubber teeth
The line is evolving backwards
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The head sculpts seem off on both of these. Shame, I was actually sort of looking forward to Hank Scorpio.
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>>11732565
Scorpius looks mostly fine, but Indominus looks genuinely bad
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>no "glass" eye
Like I get getting rid of the gimmick in the small figures because it looks like ass, but getting rid of it in the large theropods is wild
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>>11732570
>Scorpius looks mostly fine
It really doesn't. Just about everything is wrong.
>no "glass" eye
That's a pleasant surprise, they always looked like shit.
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>>11732579
my mistake.
You're right, he does look totally different.
>they always looked like shit.
The Spinosaurus eye looked good, but it did look bad in basically every other figure.
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>>11731828
Imagine being super into dinosaur anatomy and still using the bad proportions of the Sue reconstruction.
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Actually a really good example of how to do and not to do lips on theropods. While the BOTM one keeps them very tight and as close to the bone as possible the Nanmu one adds so much soft tissue that it ends up distorting the skull shape
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If I had a nickel for everytime Hypsilophodon snuck its way into a completely unrelated wave of anticipated JP stuff, I'd have two nickels.
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>>11732930
That's just what Sue looked like, and because 2/3rds of Tyrannosaur reconstructions are actualy just reconstructions of Sue we have to have Tyrannosaurs with weird heads and ribs that are too wide.
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>>11732624
Casual dino fan here admittedly (I like paleo stuff but don't know nearly enough to give much of an informed opinion) but the straight-ahead stare of the middle and right ones are really cracking me up; they look like they've just stepped out of the de-extinction machine and are beyond disappointed that the world is now dominated by small smooth-skinned apes whose apparent leaders do unspeakable things to hatchlings.
>"You know what? I think another meteor is in order. This SUCKS."
Like it makes sense they'd have binocular vision, being predators and all, but god it looks funny from the front.
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I hate how when people make a reconstruction based on Sue they always (and i mean always) ignore the fact that she is crouching in that mount so her legs are not fully extended. It's how you end up with reconstructions that are absolute leglets like the PP one
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It sucks so much that probably the best Tyrannosaur reconstruction in any of the recent Paleo docs is from the worst of them. The WWD25 Rex is just leagues better than the PP Rex, but the documentary was absolute ass.
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Nanmu Allo. Pre-orders should go up somewhere at the end of the month at the latest.
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remember what they took from you
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>>11734856
I really like the HC stego, that's why I bought two, but it's tail is pretty limited in the range it can swing, and with no torso joint that limitation is felt even more. Still a great figure though
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The lack of a moving jaw is a little annoying, but wasnt a deal breaker for me, but I can see why it might be for others
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My big dream figures for Nanmu now:
>Disney Carnotaurus (Normal, Ride-style)
>Dinosaur Planet Pyroraptor (Pod, his sisters)
>JPOG Acrro/Carchar
>Gwangi
>The Dragon Ball T-rex design
>Sharptooth (Classic, Mysterious Island)
>The Isle Giga but there's no way in hell to make that happen without Dondi throwing a shitfit about it
>Jurassic Fight Club Nanotyrannus, unironically
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>>11735316
It can bend just fine, but it can't hold the pose well at all because of how bulky the rubber tail is.
I havent had any damage to the tail of either of mine
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>Dragon Ball T-rex
One of my pipedream figure lines is a crossover between the figuarts dragon ball line and monsterarts that consists of a bunch of dragon ball monsters
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They are really well made, and I wished more stores sold them so they would be more competitively priced. Right now, I see them at Michael's, at Barnes & Nobles and maybe one or two other spots - few and far between.
The sculpts on some are really good, and I would like them more if they had just a bit more articulation for at least SOME of the figurines.
I think people's hate for figurines is for soulless crap like Funko Pops.
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>Moros
he looks like a true monster but at the same time like a silly little guy.
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I got my HC Allosaurus, I love him. He feels great, looks great and does what I want him to. But damn is he big. I feel like if I go into the dino hole I will have to not give them a shelve but a corner of my bedroom floor.
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Hammond Collection Jeep. It's supposed to be an all in one even though the number is 18 so that doesn't work...
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Got some more birds today.
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>>11737733
The Deinonychus are roughly the size I was expecting, but at the same time, bigger? I expected them to be a bit smaller than Eo, but they're roughly the same size.
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>>11737736
It's weird that every time (2 times) I have gotten more than 1 of the same figure from CB, one of them is always a bit fucked up. After giving them a hot soak to loosen the joints, I'd one of the shoulders on one of them is just... Fucked now, I guess. And before the soak, that same one had a weird ball joint in the base of its arm that keeps pooping out. Their ankle (real ankle) were also weirdly tight even after the soak.
They seem pretty good now though, the tails especially, much better and more free than any of the other bendy-tails in the ones I have
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>>11737741
>My Ancestor :)
1/18 Velo is better than I expected for its size. Not really any further comments. Little dude is alright. Probably a bit overpriced.
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>>11737741
Yeah people often assume Deinonychus was smaller than it actually was because it is commonly used to show how oversized the JP raptors were. And it is true they were smaller than the ones in JP, but they were still about the size of a large gray wolf
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>I'd one of the shoulders on one of them is just... Fucked now
re-reading part of this post I feel like I had a stroke part-way through.
Which is what I get for writing a post while 90% asleep.
To fix my error:
Before the soak, one of them had a really weird, misshapen torso. Soak fixed it, but still weird.
Was a lot harder to get their leg joints going than Eotyrannus too.
Also seems like literally all of their smaller figures have a very slight underbite. Eo has one, Deinonychus has one, Velo has one. But none of the other ones do.
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Makes sense. I guess my general mental picture of the size of Deinonychus is based on that one Wikipedia image comparing it, Velo, Utah, Austro, Micro, etc, to eachother. Which, of course, is standing in a more dynamic pose, which is probably skewing my mental mage a bit.
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>>11740095
Package shot. Unless I'm mistaken, I just don't get why everyone forgets the big thumb claw when it's one of Allosaurus's defining features and makes its claws look more deadly. Only seen statue companies and CB get that right so far.
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>>11739431
The Cyberzoic color pattern for the Dilo is still up
https://creative-beast.com/product/dilophosaurus-wetherilli-cyberzoic- 1-18th-scale-action-figure/
And the 1/18 fragillis is still available as well
https://creative-beast.com/product/1-18-allosaurus-fragilis-action-fig ure-1/
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Yeah, it's so weird that so many people get it wrong. Though Nanmu has the excuse that it isnt their design.
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>If it helps, I guess they're still available on their website.
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Thank you anons.
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Their 1/64 scale Rex and Trike
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And their non-scale figures
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Dinosaur Revolution. Dinosaur documentary that had some pretty good designs. The DR T-rex with he fucking skull-colored head goes hard.
It also doesn't take itself completely seriously, mainly because it wasn't originally formatted as a documentary, it's a fun watch, but the Broken-Jaw Allo was absolutely a highlight. It's also the documentary that taught me that Torvosaurus exists.
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These are particularly exciting
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>We're getting figures of fucking dogs and pigs from this retard before dimetrodons or oviraptors or pterosaurs or any aquatic creatures
Jesus Christ.
At least the cerato is fucking 100% badass, I'll definitely be getting him.
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First wave I am vetting literally all the figures. Might even get to Rhinos
>>11743869
There is no paleozoic line. Why would there be a dimetridon? Filling out the La Brea tarpits with Dire Wolves makes more sense, especially given how popular the smilodon has been.
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>Hurr durr why no this word not make sense??
There wasn't a cenozoic line until he decided to start making a bunch of fucking cats and dogs and pigs you cum guzzling fucktard. He'll make a dimetrodon at some point and slap a different word on the box and literally no one will give a shit.
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I do wish they made a Dimetrodon. Specially since it's the last we have left to have the "mascot" of every major era
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>Cyberzoic Dilophosaurus
How is he different from the normal BotM one? Can I take off his hair/cape thing?
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>How is he different from the normal BotM one?
To my knowledge, owning neither and just looking at pictures:
>Better (IMO) Color scheme and general paint application
>I THINk the neck wrinkels and the eye-dangly things?
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>How is he different from the normal BotM one? Can I take off his hair/cape thing?
The color is different
The head crests are sculpted slightly different
The feathers are a separate piece and can be removed
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>>11744551
Different (better) paint
Different head & neck sculpts that change the crests and give him turkey waddle
Removable cape
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>can look down and has mostly decent paint apps
>substantially worse in almoat every other way.
Man, i was really hoping PNSO would pull it off, but this shit sucks.
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Same except for the crest color, I like the blue.
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Sharing a meal
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So Mattel's releasing their own Dunkleosteus and oh my god. Even putting aside accuracy, this just looks bad. Why the nerd emoji teeth? Why does it look like it just washed up on a beach and is actively dying?
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>>11745622
I just watched 2 reviews glazing this thing, dude.
>>11745712
Outside of the ability to look down, the articulation is worse than the original BotM 1:35 Rex. Yeah, the BOTM rex has the uglier hip joint, but it somehow manages to have a better range of motion. The heads sculpt looks really bad. I dont know it it is an artifact of the articulation or if they just made the lips to wide to make it's mouth close flush, but whatever it they did made the head look very wonkey. It can look down which is awesome, but it cant look side to side. The lacramal crests have almost no sculpted detail and and no definition in the paint which makes them look substantially worse than anything else on the figure... other than maybe the eyes.
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I think the head looks fine, certainly more appealing than Baardse's fugly thing.
Could you pop off the head and legs? I want to see if it's possible to dremel out material to improve the range of motion.
>The lacramal crests have almost no sculpted detail and and no definition in the paint which makes them look substantially worse than anything else on the figure
Yup, it's a PNSO figure alright.
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>>11747507
I buy lots of different scales. I have the 1/12 Nanmu and Amber Collection Raptors and the 1/35 Nanmu and 1/18 Hammond Collection Tyrannosaurs. I also have the 1/6 BotM Velociraptor that I pose next to the 1/18 Utahraptor (really crazy how much the paint apps have improved since those early figures). I just like prehistoric animal figures regardless of scale. However, I will say that one of the reasons I decided to grab the 1/35 Allosaurs was because the will make fine subadults for my my 1/18 Allosaurs or decent stand ins for A. europaeus depending on if it's a true seperate species or just a dwarf subspecies of A. fragilis.
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A multitude of (stupid) questions
>Would those two be a good introduction to the Beasts of the Mesozoic line in particular and more expansive toys in general?
>How is their QC?
>Can they pose well without the stands at all?
>Do they scale well with Hammonds Stegosaurus and with each other?
>Is there a quality difference with the different colored velociraptors? I ask because pic related is significantly cheaper than the osmolskae and mongoliensis ones.
>Is there another Dilophosaurus in the works? I know Hammond is making the one from the first JP movie.
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>>11747674
>Would those two be a good introduction to the Beasts of the Mesozoic line in particular and more expansive toys in general?
The Dilo absolutely. It's a great figure. The Velociraptor... eh. That Velociraptor was my first BotM figure it was "fine" for the time, but the paint work is an order of magnitude worse than the Dilo.
>How is their QC?
I've seen no real issues with the Dilo though there are people who complain about it not being able to stand as well without a support stand because of its long body. The Raptor has a fair amount of paint issues.
>Can they pose well without the stands at all?
The Dilo can be a little finicky when it comes to standing on its own because of its long body and weird proportions, but it can be done. The Velociraptor cannot stand at all without its support stand.
>Do they scale well with Hammonds Stegosaurus and with each other?
the Dilo is 1/18 like the Hammond Stegosaurus, but that Velociraptor is 1/6 scale so it won't scale with the steg. However, if you want a Raptor that does scale with the Stego there are the 1/18 raptors. Most are out of stock, but at least one of the color patterns is still available.
https://creative-beast.com/product/1-18th-velociraptor-mongoliensis-bl ack-4-action-figure/
if you want a raptor that is about the same size as the 1/6 Velociraptor but does scale with the Stegosaurus, then I'd recommend either the Utahraptor or Achillobator which can stand on their own without a support.
>Is there a quality difference with the different colored velociraptors?
The one in that picture will almost certainly not look as good as the one you get. The paint work on the snout for that Velociraptor is very poorly implemented so there's none of that really nice blending of the blue
>Is there another Dilophosaurus in the works?
That's actually the second Dilo. It's a popular animal so it'll probably get a third eventually, but nothing has been confirmed
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Stego arrived... still no andrewsarchus and 1:35 Allosaurus yet though. He's an absolute unit.
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Np. Saw you deleted you post asking about the raptor in my previous pic. That wasnt one of the 1/6 scale raptor that was the 1/18 Achillobator. It has pins in its arm because the first run of the figure was pinless but had serious issues with the arms poping off and never going back on. So they switched to pins to fix the issue. I've brought out my 1/6 velociraptor. You can see how bad the paint on the snout is in mine compared to the art sample. Like I said if you want a raptor that is pretty sizeable and scales well with your HC Steg I would recommend either that Achillobator or the Utahraptor.
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Pose it hitting Allosaurus you know where. Come on, you know you want to
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>>11748153
No. There's a few possible scenarios when it comes to the license changing hands, but it's most likely that anything designed for a license whether or not it was released became a part of the license holders' property. The sculpts/molds if any survived could have been retained by kenner/Hasbro or could have been sold as part of the deal. Even in the very unlikely event that hasbro retains the rights to its OC characters and designs, Mattel has already homaged many of their old toys color schemes and designs. There's no reason they couldn't continue with some sort of "DNA splicer" line of their own and do the same exact mashups using slightly different dinosaurs to get around any lingering legalities, considering they hold the JP license and you can't own the concept of a dinosaur mashup.
You've also got to consider that major companies like this generally like to play nice with one another, and homaging a line of mostly cancelled toys from a post movie toyline that was during a line wind down from 30 years ago is not really something that Hasbro would try to hold Universal and Mattel over the coals for.
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I wonder if it is common to bind the sculpts to the license. T-Rex is just a T-Rex and not very special to the Jurassic Park designs. And toys created for the toy series are not that special to give the rights away to re-use them.
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NTA, but did the Cyberzoic Dilo already come out? I still haven’t gotten it, the Deinonychus, or the robo armor hound thingy, yet last year got the Jimmadseni Allo, the 1/12 Smilodon, and just the other day I got my trio of Andrewsarchuses.
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Another way to think about it is to just look around at the rest of the toy industry. NECA remakes a bunch of Kenner Alien and Predators because they have the license, any of those old toy character designs are owned by who owns the alien/predator license.
I think the only public toy license drama to unfold in the last few years was nacelle getting shit for using max steel as a roboforce character name, and maybe the Taiwan mighty max guys. The nacelle issue was simply because roboforce was a forgotten license with no footprint and now you had an emerging company getting contracts into Walmart with a toy with the same name as another more prominent property character that emerged in the decades since. The Mighty Max thing was a mess of a legal loophole and oversight, but whether or not they caved out of pressure or just general respect to the license we don't know. Either way both very different situations.
I think as we've seen you shouldn't really expect much out of Mattel. Most of the design homages/remakes are pretty loose, and in many cases arguably (in some cases not even arguably) worse than their originals. I loved the initial batch of 93 classics but pretty much everything since has been a letdown, and even those figures are more interesting for how they look and what they represent than being actual good, functional toys.
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>>11749923
I doesnt need to be 1/12 exactly, just look cool enough like a horse ride. How about this one >>11734826 since its still pre order status
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>>11748990
The first wave of the Cyberzoic Dilo came out, but the factory accidentally under produced them so CB had to order a whole second wave to fufill the unfufilled orders. They should be shipping with this current wave
>>11749778
I dont collect 1/12 figures that arent robots or anime girls, so you'll have to forgive my limited points of reference, but here are some 1/35, 1/18, and 1/12 dinosaur figures. Nanmu does their large dinosaurs in 1/35 and their raptors in 1/12, the allosaurus you asked about here >>11750037 is one of their 1/35 scale figures and it is about the same size as the Carnotaurus behind HK416 (the blue haired girl with the gun). Most BotM figures like the achillobator, green allosaurus, Pachyrhinosaurus being ridden by the pink bunny girl, and the stegosaurus are 1/18 scale, but the blue, white, and red feathered velociraptor is 1/6 scale. The Nanmu JP Velociraptor by the nun is 1/12 scale. The Nanmu Indominus and Tyrannosaurus next to the Star Wars Black series robot and the succubus are 1/35 scale and could probably be used as mounts for most 1/12 human figures. The Hammond Collection like the Spinosaurus in the back is also 1/18 like BOTM, and while they are super cheap if you can get them in store they skyrocket in value on thw aftermarket because Mattel does not care about even distribution.
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There are like 5 iconic paleozoic animals tops
Dimetrodon
Gorgonops (Inostrancevia)
Lystrasaurus
Dunkleosteus
Some kind of sea scorpion
Cenozoic animals are way better at supporting a line of figures because there are more better known animals. Everybody knows dire wolves, mammoths, and smilodon, and a good amount of people know about terror birds. Everybody knows dimetrodon, but compare gorgonops to Andrewsarchus (the leat well known of the Cenozoic critters so far) and i'd wager more people know about it than Gorgonops, especially after Andrewsarchus was a villian in multiple episodes of this season of Primal.
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> Im thinking at least the green
The Allosaurus is $130 fyi. It was $110 when it was up for pre-order, but CB always hits you with a 20% mark up once a figure is in stock. If you don't care about Allosaurus specifically and just want a dinosaur that is about that size, then I'd recommend grabbing the Carnotaurus while it's still up for pre-order so you save 20 bucks
https://cyberzoic-toys.backerkit.com/hosted_preorders/587870
> the big spinosaurus is tempting but too much for my budget its $150 here. Is mattel quality good enough?
I like the Spinosaurus. For the $60 I bought it for, it was a solid figure, but I find it hard to justify paying the $140 to $200 that people on Ebay and facebook groups are asking. If you want something in that size, then maybe wait for the Hammond Collection Indominus to come out later this year. It's probably your best value option since it should be around $65, have decent articulation, and be very large. You can see what it looks like here >>11732454 >>11732570
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That's the Nanmu tiger-stripe Indominus. They did the standard grey-white version and a tiger-stripe variant.
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Got a few new BotM creatures today
Haven't messed around with them too much because I got home, opened them, and immediately crashed because work was soul-devouring, , but initial impressions:
>Gorgosaurus
A lot more visually pleasing in person than in pictures. I was initially disappointed that I missed the boat on Alberto and Gorgo was the bronze medal, but visually, at least, it's a lot nicer than I was expecting. Standing pretty good so far, but the ankles are really fucking loose and I haven't even soaked it to loosen things up yet. Surprised it's even holding this pose. Honestly everything else was surprisingly loose (the good kind) out of the box too. Legs switched out easy, only really had to fight the tail to get on.
>Pachycephalosaurus
Visually? Stunning. Like, goddamn, this is, design-wise, one of the best sculpts of theirs that I have so far. Very nice color scheme too. Got to soak him, and he feels like he's going to be really fun to pose. But these ankles. Goddamn, they are so weak. It's everything I was worried about with how loose Gorgo's ankles were. These ankles can barely hold it. Only other complaint is that they cut the bendy-wire in the tail off way too early so it has, like, 2 inches of flexible tail that can't hold a pose.
>Smilodon
The one I've messed around with the least, so fewest opinions on it. Seems pretty stable, even on 3-legged poses. Another prime example of being completely unable to judge size before getting the figure for me. It was both bigger, and smaller than I expected, same situation as I had with the deinonychus.
Probably going to do some posing over the weekend. These guys weren't even supposed to get here until tomorrow.
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>>11751020
some cheap thing I got on Etsy. Looks nice, but it definitely over-sold the "articulated snake" concept because there's no friction joints at all. I don't know how it works, but any pose more dynamic than that one is basically impossible to hold for more than a second before it just kind of unravels itself again.
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>>11750806
The mattel Indominus will have a reinforced bendy wire tail like all the large HC figures.