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>>11797961
I got studio series 86 shockwave at a walmart this afternoon. As far as i could tell skywarp wasnt their but i wasnt interested in him anyways
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>>11797961
bless ya, Madge.
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How would (You) stop Core Class from dying if you were in charge?
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>>11797847
The TFCC made concept art 11797847 a BW Megs out of Animated Grimlock, but it never went anywhere
>>11797970
My immediate ideas would be
>G1 Retro Minibots à la United G1 Prime
>show scale Beast Wars characters like the canceled Dinobot
>Spychangers with actual articulation, could easily be redecoed several times over
>Operation Combination Micromaster combiners, starting with Devastator/Sixbuilder to match Volcanicus/Dinoking
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>>11797970
Not being fucking retarded as shit with them and do braindead shit like make Rumble an insanely limited run that didn't even hit physical stores
You can't hate this god damn nigs at hasbro enough
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>>11797970
By not wasting a bunch of tooling making worse versions of characters you already did as legends.
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HasBro is losing money by not making a selects retool of Commander Class Sky Lynx into a Deception Aerial Assault griffin toy.
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>>11797963
how is Shocky.
I have the Seige version but am thinking of grabbing this one too.
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>>11797970
It wasn't dying. Hasbro just wanted to charge Deluxe prices for Core sized figures so the smaller class had to go.
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>>11797983
I figure core class died so cyberworld could slide in
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>>11797970
release some cores

actually, make the class about 30% bigger. Core should be to deluxe what deluxe is to voyager. The recent cores are too small. They're the height of old Beast Wars 'basics' but significantly thinner. If you aren't gonna make chunkybots, then make them bigger.
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>>11797973
that's still not show scale no matter how many times you suggest it is
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>>11797991
No one but you is being that autistic about it.
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>>11797973
I still need to pick up that little authentics Primal.
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>>11797992
how many people being right does it take?
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>core class star saber? nah give starscream that goofy looking lollipop
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>>11797986
What a horrible change
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>>11797970
Make a buncha new guys, have them turn into cars and planes and shit, make up some shit how they landed on an alien world and are fighting over energon as per usual. You can do 6-12 guys on either side, don't have to be bound by Earth altmodes and could look pretty cool if all the vehicles had some consistent alien aesthetic.
Or just make them regular cars and tanks or whatever, it hardly matters. The point is to just make some new guys.
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>>11797989
BWAAHAHAAAAAA.
Habsro giving us MORE for our money
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>>11798024
why do they have to be new guys? There's ton of existing characters who could use a CHUG figure
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>>11798033
i was about to say 'they can raise the price a bit' except cores already cost way more proportionately than higher size classes.
probably because of packaging and shit
>>11798035
name three
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>>11798035
I'm bored of seeing the same guys, I want some new ones. Besides, I like the idea of the Cybertronian civil war having little fronts all across the stars, not just Cybertron/Earth/Nebulon or whatever. I think it'd be cool to start fresh with some new guys on an unfamiliar world like they did in Beast Wars. Nobody gave a fuck about those new guys at first but decades later people still like them and have favorites like Quickstrike or even toy-only ones like Airhammer.
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>>11798041
The Throttlebots
The Omnibots
The Triggerbots
The rest of the pretenders
The rest of the Autobot Targetmasters
The rest of the Autobot Headmasters
should I keep going?
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>>11798052
I can understand not making any more toys of the guys they've been making (Ironhide, Soundwave etc), but I mean, there's tons of teams and lineups that are still incomplete because Hasbro never made any CHUG figure of them.
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>>11798054
I want a new Micromaster Autobot HQ with the combining micromaster dudes, and Landfill, and my nigga Tote.
>>11798059
Fresh blood could invigorate the toyline, I'm never opposed to more chug guys too but I like my idea more than Weaponizers or those fossil guys they did. Maybe make it more of a thing by doing a web short or something introducing new characters, then people might care more and want to buy them. It worked with the Bay films after all.
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>>11798064
But that's not what the Generations line is for. It's literally in the name. It's celebrating the various generations of Transformers over the years. Occasionally, they throw in new guys, but 95% is new toys for the generations of characters.
Like I said, there's tons of guys who could use new toys and for most people, they would be new guys anyway because they're fairly obscure so everybody would be happy.
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>>11797970
I wouldn't I'd bring back scout class
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How are we all enjoying our BREASTFORCE?
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>>11797983
I think there's some truth to this. Core class stopped making sense when the average deluxe size was shrinking with the addition of minibots.
There's also the fact that rising prices meant the cheap, impulse buy price point was no longer cheap enough to impulse buy (but still looked cheap).
I also doubt poor sales at the time were a factor. They wouldn't have expanded to studio series if they were struggling to sell the mainline stuff.
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>>11798072
>But that's not what the Generations line is for
I was responding to
>>11797970
>How would (You) stop Core Class from dying if you were in charge?
And said they should do a bunch of new guys.
Not everything has to be Generations anon, they can do other stuff sometimes and it might even not suck for once.
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Star of the Dark God, part 1:

Millions of years ago in the Galaxy Force World, Primus is aided in his plans of Transformer colonization by a team of Autobots from another universe led by Optimus Prime. With the visitor's spaceship technology and the Cyber Planet Keys derived from Primus's spark, they seek to bring together all sentient beings across space. While the disappearance of Gigantion ended the Space Bridge Project proper, all four spaceships landed on their proper planets and the colonists on all developed a vibrant culture that enures to this day. Optimus Prime helped found Velocitron and is now in permanent rest somewhere...
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>>11798103
the present day, Shockwave has revealed himself as the mastermind behind the Nemesis's transformation into Nemesis Prime using the remnant of Unicron's power from his destroyed universe that he seeks to bring back by resetting this world. With his Terrorcons mass-produced by Nemesis Prime's Wheelhouse trailer, Shockwave gathers energy and seeks out Optimus Prime, whom he has not found on the other planets, so he concludes he must be on Velocitron. He forces his new servant to hand over the Heart of Cybertron, which has been refashioned into a Matrix, as the Decepticon intended. The Terrorcons alert their master to their discovery of the Autobot leader in stasis lock underground.
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>>11798105
Knowing of Optimus's transformation into the mighty Star Convoy, Shockwave instigates a similar transformation by implanting the Unicron orb with the energy accumulated by the Terrorcons. Optimus Prime's body glows and expands, and the rechristened "Nemesis Star Convoy" emerges from the ground!
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>>11798107
The alarmed Clocker identifies the new entity as sharing the same wicked energy as the Grand Black Hole which threatened the universe, and Jolt informs the others that Primus has confirmed the giant as the powered up form of the "missing ancient warrior", who Motormaster takes as his eternal rival from his own world.
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>>11798110
Metroplex takes on Nemesis Star Convoy, despite lacking his Sparkdrinker axe, and is summarily taken down by the dark warrior's Chaos Bringer cannon. To help in the battle, Hot Shot activates his Cyber Key power, revealing that Primus has endowed them with new color change upgrades, becoming Fire Hot Shot. Motormaster, having come to this world to find such power, notes that this wasn't from either an evil god's power or forestonite. Before he can mull things further, the two are accosted by the corrupted modules of Optimus Prime—his trailer (reconfigured as a Micro Trailer) and Roller (in his Micro Carrier form).
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>>11798103
>>11798105
>>11798107
>>11798110
This is /toy/
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>>11798113
Roller traps Hot Shot between his halves while the Micro Trailer has a head-on collision with Motormaster in his truck form. Stunticons Dead End, Drag Strip, and Breakdown help out their leader by taking out the Micro Trailer, but the formerly attached cannon continues talking and attaches to the Micro Carrier, blasting intense firepower everywhere.

>>11798114
These are comics made to promote current toys.
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>>11798118
Inside the abandoned Micro Trailer, the Stunticons find some fake forestonite, and, as Nemesis Star Convoy pulls out the Heart of Cybertron Gun, Motormaster realizes they were lured here solely to bring the Nemesis's power core, the Heart of Cybertron, to this world.
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>>11798114
Go be autistic somewhere else
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>>11798120
Satisfied enough with his creation's display of power, Shockwave has the evil Convoy unleash his Nemesis Star Meteor Fire attack in base mode to ravage the planet before leaving to attack the G1 World in search for even greater power.
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I can't read moonrunes, anon.
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>>11798124
The Stunticons are left on the devastated planet of Velocitron. Drag Strip figures that Shockwave and Nemesis Star Convoy must be going to the G1 World to acquire the power of that universe's Unicron, Angolmois Energy. They attend to the fallen Nemesis Prime, who was hurt by friendly fire—Shockwave only needed the Heart of Cybertron from her. Motormaster has his team reintegrate Nemesis Prime back into the Nemesis's brain circuits and return to their home universe.
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>>11798135
Drag Strip says his goodbyes to Hot Shot and promises to return so they can race again.

As Nemesis Star Convoy travels to the G1 World, the Sideways duo, Sideways and Noisemaze, reveal themselves. Shockwave doesn't take to Sideways uttering his new name, but Sideways explains that they were both resurrected by the power of Unicron in another universe after the Grand Black Hole was destroyed.
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>>11798140
As Unicron acts as the natural counterpart to Primus, the evil god will never truly die. The black mist born from Unicron's power has revived the sparks of those who were absorbed or fused with Unicron, including Sideways himself. Shockblast, on the other hand, seems to have mixed with Mirage, giving him a new name and a new alternate mode (Energon Shockblast used Shockwave's jp name, Laserwave, while Mirage was called Shockfleet and used the Shockwave name in his original, the one we remember as Tidal Wave) matching that of his hated rival. Sideways promised Shockwave that they'll resurrect his brother once they've completed their goal of using an empowered Nemesis Star Convoy to destroy the Galaxy Force World and bring back the MD World, but this was all a lie. While Unicron can create a similar universe, his brother is still forevermore dead. The true brains behind Unicron, Sideways has Nemesis Star Convoy grab Shockwave and use him to rip a hole in spacetime to the G1 World.
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>>11798143
Megatronus, having recovered from his battle with Lio Convoy, is aghast when the Sideways arrive with their gigantic servant. Sideways explains that they're here to help their Unicron conquer all other Unicrons and the multiverse; Noisemaze takes out Planet X's Cyber Planet Key—a part of Unicron's spark—and inserts it into Nemesis Star Convoy.
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>>11798145
The corrupted Convoy expands to planetary size and, ignoring feeble attacks from the Prime Council, rips the Fallen's Matrix-encased Cybertron in half.
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>>11798146
The trio of Dark Amber Leo Prime, Bluebolt, and Untite, delaying their trip to Junkion to save Lio Convoy's son from the Primes' clutches, arrive in time to see the massive threat of Nemesis Star Convoy. Upon seeing him, Dark Amber recognizes that the planet-sized robot is a parallel to him—a Convoy corrupted by the energies of a Unicron. Meanwhile the Primes escape in Nexus Prime, who grew in size and has Silberbolt's frame, for some reason.
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>>11798149
Dark Amber Leo Prime fires a beam at his counterpart, attracting the attention of Sideways, who recognizes the lion's energy as Angolmois Energy. Since their stated goal is the subjugation of all Unicrons, Nemesis Star Convoy blasts back with the Nemesis Star Convoy Energon Laser.
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>>11798143
This storyline is pure betrayel-ception. So nemesis convoy betrays all the bots of velocitron, only to be betrayed by shockwave, who is then betrayed by the sidewayses, but all while shockwave planned on betraying them beforehand anyway?
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>>11798152
Dark Amber Leo Prime leaps off and starts... eating the laser, growing to enormous size! Since planets and stars are his favorite food, Leo Prime gnaws on Star Convoy, inadvertently consuming a different Unicron's energy...
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>>11798157
Transforming into Unicron himself! The angered Unicron gives Nemesis Star Convoy a good beating, but the Decepticon takes one half of Cybertron and swats his counterpart with it.
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>>11798160
Reverting him back to his leonine form. Before Nemesis can use his Heart of Cybertron gun to finish off Dark Amber, he's attacked by Shockwave, who hasn't took well to being used. The Sideways capture their ex-partner and have the Nemesis Prime copy Terrorcons throw him into the dungeon.
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>>11798163
The Stunticons aboard the Nemesis finally return to their home universe, only to see that Nemesis Star Convoy has combined with the halves of Cybertron in base mode. Chained in the depths of Nemesis, Shockwave notes that he expected this betrayal all along, having used some of the Terrorcons' energy to create a bullet that carried a control module into Nemesis Star Convoy's nervous system. With his radar dish as a remote control for his creation and the Terrorcons, Shockwave swears that if they can't resurrect his brother, then he'll start destroying all universes, starting with this one.

>>11798156
Nah, it's just Shockblast using the Nemesis computer, turning into a Prime, the steals the heart of cybertron from it. Shockblast was revived in the Cybertron continuity after his death in Energon and did all this for his bro.
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>>11798168
Major things:
-Giant Dark Amber, that 2010 Armada Unicron G1 retool and Star Convoy are all on scale with their toys.
-Planet X's gold cyber key finally shows up, and they actually used the Unicron connection Sideways/Noisemaze had in his takara toy blurbs, that key drawing upon Unicron's energies.
-In Japan, Sideways from the UT are different characters(Double Face for ML, Noizemaze for GF)but homaging that, they're essentially called team Sideways here since their new toys use the english names.
-Like mentioned earlier, both Tidal Wave and Shockblast used the Shockwave name in Japan, one using the jp version, the other using the en version. Shockblast hated Tidal Wave so being called that really pisses him off.
-Armada Sideways has always been a bit nebulous on how much he was his own character, or if he was just some puppet used by Unicron. The dub made it seem like the latter, while the jp version went with the former (he was possessed, but was aware and working in simbiosis) this is the first time he's shown up as an individual and clearly had no issues assuming full control of Unicron.
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>>11797963
I too would like to hear your thoughts on shockwave. the gray backpack is throwing me off.
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>>11798168
>having used some of the Terrorcons' energy to create a bullet that carried a control module into Nemesis Star Convoy's nervous system.
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Smile!
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>>11798103
I love how this is a reference to these four having their G1 selves cameoing in Galaxy Force
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>>11798168
Where did Shockblast learn all this? He was just a thug in Energon.
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>>11798103
So, when "Sleeping Prime" releases, what are the odds of his box looking like the coffin here?
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>>11798107
The pervert in me is slightly disappointed that Nemesis Star Convoy isn't a woman like the Nemesis/G1 Nemesis Prime.
Also I hope New Legends does well enough that we get a new Megaempress.
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>>11798324
Pretty low, Hasbro's not that creative.
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>>11798345
Creativity is overrated.
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>>11798297
Who are these?
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>>11798359
Yeah, it’s just the crappy core class Dinobots repaint as Monstructor
What a waste
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>>11798052
> I'm bored of seeing the same guys, I want some new ones.
This gets said all the time but when we get the likes of Modulators, Fossilizers, Junkions or the Primes, those same people aren’t interested.
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>>11798390
I meant, that's what they were always meant to be in the first place. They were just pre-tooled as dinobots because the dinobots sell better.
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>>11798024
I'd love it if a Transformers line did this. New characters with new designs would help paper over the deficiencies of modern Hasbro, too. The biggest issue with Generations for the last decade is that far too many figures pale in comparison to their predecessors, whether it's the previous CHUG iteration or the original toy. I honestly can't think of anything out of WFC/Legacy/AOTP I like the most. Studio Series is even worse about this with respect to the Bay movies.

I'm not even trying to be contrarian. I'm sure there's something I'm just not thinking of, but it's (almost) all just charmless downgrades.
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>>11798024
>>11798406
I've said it before; It would have been great if Hasbro had put their whole ass into the RID15 toys
There were a lot of OCs and reimaginings in that show
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Dinoking > Volcanicus > Monstructor
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more Beast Wars tom and jerry gags.
want to draw Wazzpinator and Cheetor
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>>11798399
It was Dinoking, not Monstructor
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>>11798420
Oh, my bad.
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>>11798419
I really like that Inferno
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>>11798429
Fucking cool. I was gonna break down my Devastator for a new display idea, but maybe I'll leave him together a little longer to take pics when my Shockwave gets here.
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>>11798296
the camera should be a transformer too
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>>11798406
legacy animated bumblebee is great I'm hoe
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>>11798429
ooh, the purple matches pretty damn well huh
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>>11797982
>how is Shocky.
He is really really cool. Shockwave is one of my favorite cons so i got him immediately after seeing him on a shelf. I havent transformed him yet but in robot mode he articulates very well. Heres a pic of him with a jurassic world dunkleosteus toy i also got yesterday. Also i can post pics of shockwaves barcode if youd like.
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>>11798217
I dont mind shockwaves backpack since his OG toy had something similar but i know some people have nitpicks that i dont. Heres a pic of shockys back if you wanted
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>>11798459
Anon what is that prehistoric fish toy??
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>>11798465
Its a dunkleosteus from mattels latest jurassic world wave. I didnt even know this was going to be released until i saw it at walmart yesterday, a different walmart then where i got shockwave. Dunkleosteus has always been one of my favorite prehistoric creatures so i snatched him up fast, ive always wanted a good toy of him.
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>>11798467
awesome i didnt know it's a new toy. This fish was always one of my favs - in every "dinosaur encyclopedia" it was one of the coolest creatures to look at.
It's a fish with a shell-head and a bunch of literal razors in his mouth.

there should be transformer of it
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>>11798469
Yeah Devonian era fish were always my favorite in documentaries or books like you mentioned too. Again i had no idea this was going to be a toy in the JW line until i saw him in person yesterday. I was so happy seeing him on the peg, like if a character you thought would never get a figure in a million years suddenly has one and you only just found out about it when you see him on store shelves. I felt like a kid again in that regard.
>there should be transformer of it
Oh totally but hasbro doesnt really design new beast alt mode characters anymore they only remake older legacy beast wars characters as new figures
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>>11798471
I see there is this famous german company version also
i think he can open/close mouth as well
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>>11798445
The new Animated stuff is a little trickier to judge because they're trying to meet the other figures in the middle, but even then they feel like lazy downgrades that don't commit to the aesthetic transition. The face sculpts in particular are just peculiar. I certainly don't think they're better than the Animated line.
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>>11798406
But Hasbro did that for a lot of Bayformer movie years. Barely anybody remember PCC Bombshock or Jetblade or Hailstorm/Mindset. You need a show to go with the toyline for the characters to take off or they are going to be "glub shitto" characters people complain about. And even with a show that still happened with a lot of the RID15 characters.
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>>11798489
I loved the PCC guys, Smolder and Bombshock are my favorites. RotF Hailstorm is fucking rad too, and Stockade and a bunch of other toy-only bots.
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>>11798489
PCC wasn't a very good toyline, though. RID15 never had a chance in general, for various reasons.

For the record, I just said I would like that to happen, not that I think it's in Hasbro's best interest. I don't think a Beast Wars or even Car Robots level refit would be successful, at least not near to that extent. I'm not even sure I would enjoy it. Things are just very different from what they were in 2010 (or 1995), in all kinds of ways. I'm just saying Transformers as an IP has become too captured by self-reference and nostalgia, and while I don't think that's a problem for the Skybound comics it's not very flattering to HasTak's modern capacity as a toy maker.
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>>11798429
Huh, does it actually tab anywhere?
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>>11798474
It doesn't look as much like the cartoon as the original one, yeah. I still think it's a better toy.
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>>11798497
>PCC wasn't a very good toyline
Only because of build qualities, the designs were fun as fuck
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>>11798143
See, this is the high-quality autism I expect from my Transformers fiction.
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>>11798510
I like Crankcase as a good generic Decepticon cannon fodder bot, and him combining with his drones into a tiny not-Menasor always made me laugh, like he's cosplaying his hero or something.
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>>11798513
That's not even the best part, they outright say Shockblasts new alt mode is likely based on Tidal Waves cybertronian form that only shows up for a few seconds.
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>>11798513
Sakamoto coming up with random headcanon shit on the fly feels way more faithful and sincere than shit like Skybound ever did. I hear a lot that the Japanese "don't get Transformers" even though they technically made it but its the other way around.
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>>11798527
Go to bed William-san.
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>>11798143
For anyone wondering why he would have anything Tidal Wave related when they bring up that only those who fused or bonded with Unicron are being revived, Tidal Wave went with Starscream and Megatron into the energon sun.

BTW, if we're taking Double Face's word for it, the black mist should be able to bring back a bunch of characters, notably Optimus Prime, not just Megatron.
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>>11798527
They only made the toys. It was Marvel that came back up with the actual story and characters.
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>>11798444
That's literally supposed to be Refraktor.
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>>11798473
> I think he can open/close mouth as well
>Schleich
Afraid not. Schleich only makes static figures - literally 0POA statues, just hollow and made of lightweight materials for children.
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Sure wish I had a Shockwave (hurry it up Amazon), but this is all I've got right now.

>>11798444
It should, but I don't have DCS Reflector (yet).

>>11798566
It is just an accessory, so he's technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.
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>>11798566
I don't see his ass transforming.
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>>11798593
C'mon anon, Refraktor is doing the whole size changing thing. That's maybe the one excuse to have a non-transforming Transformer. Or like having the tiny PotP Pretenders to represent when they shrink themselves in Super-God Masterforce.
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>>11798605
Uh huh.
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>>11798605
Technically for Metalhawk, the potp toy could be just a suit for his TR Titanmaster.
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Armada Optimus got relisted for preorder on Hasbro Pulse.
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>>11798626
BBTS too. Damn it, missing out on him was the only thing keeping me from getting into the Armada toys. My wallet doesn't need this shit right now.
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>>11798633
Just look at Optimus's giant dangling blue labia to talk yourself out of it. That's what I did.
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>>11798626
Now I’m just waiting for Armada Nemesis to go on Outlet (in Outlet?). I’m guessing it’s going to be somewhat soon because Powerlinx Hot Shot took about the same amount of time and Hasbro just cleared a bunch of their Outlet stock
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I skipped all the recent big Optimuses. Armada, Fire Convoy, Star Convoy, Big Convoy, G1 Commander, MPG Ginrai, I don't need any of them...
But when Grand Convoy eventually comes out I'm getting that fat bastard. Always liked him
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>>11798634
I can probably just talk myself out of it just by reminding myself how mid Armada was as a cartoon (the Starscream stuff was good though).
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>>11798429
If you get 2 shockwaves can you give him double cannons?
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>>11798419
kek
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>>11798396
yeah because those all sucked and have basically no writing. a good design and even mid writing is enough to make new designs stand out
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>>11798374
It's the Battletoads.
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>>11798649
Better keep praying.
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>>11798396
I dont follow the kids line but I'm pretty sure they get new characters in those. The BW comic had some OCs. Crossover characters are all new at least here and not on Japan. Nemesis Star Convoy might count I still dont know what's up with that.
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>>11798714
Oh and that Japanese Wild Force stuff have a ton of new arms and leg animals and Rexblade probably more
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Aren't most of the 13 primes all new? I haven't followed transformers lore much besides weird tangents like Dillo and Sentinel Prime or beast wars stuff.
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Nerd alert.
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>>11798719
New molds, yes. The characters themselves...well, Alpha Trion and Prima have been around since G1, Liege has been around since G2, Vector was in the Cybertron cartoon, Alchemist was in Cyberverse (as Maccadam), and even if you didn't read any comics, Megatronus was still in the second Bayverse movie. The others were all in comics over the years, but this is the first time we've gotten toys of most of 'em besides Vector, Megatronus and Alpha Trion (unless you count the Build-a-Figure Maccadam as Alchemist's first toy).
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>Ultra Magnus! A cursory evaluation of Decepticon forces indicates a distinct tactical deficiency!
>In other words, Perceptor...?
>We're outnumbered.
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>>11798724
>no tank mode
It's shit
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>>11798738
Honestly they should have went the extra mile and remolded the legs to remove the treads. They're just there for a shitty mode nobody even cares about.
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>>11798724
I honestly like the TR Perceptor mold more, headmaster nonsense aside. The Magnificus deco is kind of neat, though.
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Incredibly lame that Studio Series persists in doing things that aren't "making Transit".
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>>11798745
The headmaster's gimmick is great too because his altmode works as a mini-base.
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>>11798756
So weird that after the great designs of Bumblebee, Rise of the Beasts doubled down on terrible impossible Bayformers again.
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>>11798719
Alpha Trion - 1985 - G1 cartoon
Prima - 1986 - G1 cartoon (via retcon)
Alchemist Prime - 1986 - UK comics (via retcon)
Liege Maximo - 1994 - G2 comics
The Fallen - 2004 - Dreamwave
Nexus Prime - 2005 (first component) - FunPub
Vector Prime - 2005 - Galaxy Force/Cybertron
Solus Prime - 2011 - Prime cameo, Exiles novel
Micronus Prime - 2011 - Prime cameo
Onyx Prime - 2011 - Prime cameo
Amalgamous Prime - 2011 - Prime cameo
Quintus Prime - 2011 - Prime cameo
The Thirteenth Prime (concept) - 2013 - The Covenant of Primus book
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>>11798359
My brain tried to remember who this was and its not until >>11798390 that I remember it even existed
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>>11798776
and the overall concept for the Thirteen started in 1999 as the Covenant (here only 12, based on the zodiac), then reworked as the Thirteen for the Dreamwave-published Transformers Ultimate Guide in 2004, which would get built upon by FunPub and other media until 2011, when Hasbro solidified the concept and roster, eventually publishing the The Covenant of Primus in 2013.
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>>11798776
For those curious
Prima - 1989/1990 - G1 comic (pictured/named)
Alchemist - 2004 - The Ultimate Guide (hints at Maccadam being one of the Thirteen)
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I don't mind the 13 as a concept, but I wish they didn't keep shoving it in our faces. The one time I didn't mind them was in that JG1 version because they're not ancient guys there, just a bunch of assholes led by the only guy who can claim that pedigree (Megatronus, who's from another universe).
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>>11798787
In IDW1 the thirteen are just normal guys and there's a DIFFERENT set of ancient Cybertronian demigods:
Primus - Life
Mortilus - Death
Solomus - Wisdom
Epistemus - Knowledge
Adaptus - Transformation
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>>11798787
I genuinely would not bat an eye if they all ceased to exist tomorrow
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>>11798796
This, just keep Alpha Trion as "old guy who knows ancient shit" and leave it at that.
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>>11798787
I do find it interesting that Transformers is one of the few series where the Japanese side tends to be more sci fi in its explanations while the American side tends to be more spiritual instead. I feel like it’s usually the opposite in most cases
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>>11798809
JP TF has a metric shit ton of spiritual shit in it
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>>11798809
The 13 not being like other incarnations was mostly due to G1 having its origin pretty set, they already tweaked it and there's no real room for the 13. Hell, we're not really sure if they have all 13 traditional members, we already know they don't have an Arisen since Lio Convoy took his place, and we haven't seen a couple of members yet, notably Vector and Alpha.
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>>11798811
I feel outside of “life energy” stuff, JPTF isn’t really that openly spiritual. They usually try to explain most stuff in a sci fi way, if a little complicated. Stuff like Primus, the Thirteen, and there being a divinely appointed Prime are all concepts that originate from the US side of TF. Even Vector Sigma, God of the Transformers in JP continuity, is still explained as just being a powerful supercomputer
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>>11798830
I should also bring up that Liege will show up in the next toy tie in comic, bu5 what's notable is that he's already around with his Cybertronian empire around 2030's-2040's according to a number of MP bios.
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>>11798795
And in IDW the Guiding Hand are also frauds, just the first five Transformers, nothing special about them.
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>>11798833
We're just going to ignore Godmasters and Devil Z being the evil that was released from the Matrix?
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>>11798467
love me a dunkle. very cool teeth.
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>>11798830
The Thirteen don't NEED to follow any specific cast, or even even all be present as a group. There's no rules.
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>>11798835
The one that gets me in IDW is that Unicron doesn’t even exist prior to the Visionaries crossover and Shockwave traveling back in time
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>>11798445
Eh, it's still worse looking than the hydrodive mold.
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>>11798767
Great designs and nobody can still make accurately transforming versions of the two main antagonists while the "Impossible bayformers" were pretty much nailed on the 1st or 2nd attempt.
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>>11798841
Yeah, but they'd logically use the current toys since they're promoting them, and they did say they do currently have a line up of 13 at one point, and that was not long before Lio gave up his title.
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>>11798519
Crankcase is the best Motormaster we never got. I always wanted someone to blow the design up to a voyager with CW slots.
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>>11798785
>Hasbro solidified
More like "killed anything interesting about"
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>>11798732
>Megatronus was still in the second Bayverse movie.
And had is debut in the Dreamwave comics in the second War Within mini-series before that. He also previously had a figure in the Titaniums line, as well as a non-transforming toy from Flame Toys.
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>>11798887
I really hope this isn't about ANOTHER Haslab Unicron! Or even worst, a slightly updated Haslab Unicron. It's bad enough when Hasbro tries to get fans to double dip by releasing a slightly improved version of a toy a couple years later, but there's a huge difference between doing it for a $40 toy and a $500 one!
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>>11798898
Probably a Haslab Unicron with some features gutted and one of the AOE Dinobots, so the spinosaurus with all the spikes.

Not getting either of them, but someone will be happy.
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It bothers me that the best a
Energon axe I can give 86 Prime, is the one included with MPG Optimus... which homage the same feature. None of the third parties seem interested in making one (plenty of useless Megatron arms though). The closest I've seen is a stylized axe on fire, but it's not what I want.
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>>11798836
>I feel outside of “life energy” stuff
Also, in JPG1 the Matrix is a receptacle created by Primacron to convert information into energy which sounds a lot more sci fi than Primus gifting it to the first Cybertronian created
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>>11798898
I feel like it's saying "do I buy Legends Gigastorm, or Titan Grimlock".
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>>11798898
Haslab Unicron cost just south of 600 bucks back in 2019. There's no way they're doing any kind of rerelease at just over 400 in current year.
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>>11798905
What features could they possibly remove from Haslab Unicron to bring it to $400? It cost $575 5 years ago.
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>>11798908
He already comes with an Energon axe.
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>>11798918
JtP usually tends to tease stuff we don’t know about yet.
>>11798920
>>11798921
Scale, maybe, or make him closer in design to Armada Unicron
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>>11798928
The shitty rubber axe that melts his shit.
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my kingdom for a Unicron that turns into a massive rhinoceros (the horns rotate around til they're pointing the same way and move to the rhino's nose)
yknow people often think rhinos are related to unicorns. People who haven't seen.. unicorn drawings.
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>>11798905
They'll never top the Aoyi
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>>11798918
Titan Grimlock is this year.
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>>11798933
Dont say that, i want Armada Unicron at retail Maybe it can be cybertron Primus, he was spiky too.
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>$400+ thing with spikes
You're all wrong, obviously the next Haslab is the famously popular Dark Nova
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>>11798887
He posted this in a studio series thread, so the 200 one is almost certainly a titan dinobot.
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>>11798954
It’d be funny if the $400 one is just a Dinobot multipack
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>>11798958
That's about the on $400 thing I'd actually buy
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>>11798946
plantigrade legs though.
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>>11798583
I can only think of Skybound comics Shockwave as the only time he mass shifted.
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>>11799045
Pretty much, he normally goes giant gun and fires pathetically. The small gun is literally just that, a gun that looks like Shockwave's gun mode to mimic the scene where he held up a gun of himself.

I can only imagine they misinterpreted the script and had Shockwave wielding himself, instead of pointing his gun arm, something like:

-Shockwave aims his gun and shoots.
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>>11798626
Fuck it. I said I'd buy him the first time and the second time. I thought I'd get him when Nemesis was rumored. I wanted to hope for Powerlinx version but I'm not waiting another time and completely missing out.
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>>11798887
Make a haslab thats just every minicon from armada in one pack
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I don't care about most of the minicons, but megatron shouldve came with Leader 1.
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>>11798864
That'd be pretty sick
Do it anon, lrn2CAD
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>>11798583
>shockwave is one piece and they still waffled him
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>>11799262
in fairness, weapons are usually one piece aren't they
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>>11798626
The jetfire combination was also shown off a little more. I wonder if it has any more partsforming outside of the usual chest?
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>>11799294
Looks like it's all one piece? The shield coming off hardly counts.
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>>11799294
The background pattern makes it look like someone badly photoshopped out the space between the two parts
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>>11799299
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>>11798461
>>11798459
i think the only difference is G1's backpack came off? the MP does anyway. I've seen people just knock out the pin and make it removeable
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>>11799306
The G1 toy's backpack was the back of the gun. The barrel was a detachable piece, so now modern Shockwaves split the difference and move the barrel to the back.
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>>11798738
I tried for about ten minutes to tab the legs into his arms before consulting the wiki and discovering the following:

>The red portion of the robot torso is entirely new (and appears to be a painted piece sharing a mold with Ramhorn's parts), now with a panel covering the gap behind the head, plus new longer biceps. An unfortunate side effect of the new chest is that the tank mode of the previous release can no longer properly tab together, resulting in its exclusion from this release's instructions.

>>11798740
Like this anon said, they should have just taken off the treads, but I guess that would have been too much effort.
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>>11799383
>and appears to be a painted piece sharing a mold with Ramhorn's parts
I fucking hate these retards
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>>11799389
>ruin the fun tank mode
>"okay, but you'll get rid of the treads to make him more accurate at least?"
Abysmal decison making
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>>11799312
Still looks so good.
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>>11798626
I was looking around for Armada Primes the other day and came across this 3d printed overload remake. It's cute but seemingly only available as part of a bigger upgrade kit with a bunch of shit I dont need, shame
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>>11798569
No? They often have mouths that can open and close.
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>>11799406
I bought QQT's jet pants half-regretted it. Their major swivel joints (hips, knees) were tightened by chucking lumps of blutack in there. It does work but you can only move the joint so many times before the blutack comes loose.
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Not really feeling mpg 17 Optimus. Mine came with imperfections on the mouth plate, the shoulder ratchets are way too weak, the butterfly joint is loose, the hips extend a comical amount after a single click and it's a bitch to transform it while avoiding the chromed bits. At least I finally have a use for the Ion Cannon in the Centurion pack.
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>>11798474
>The face sculpts in particular are just peculiar.
How so?
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I think Hasbro is missing out on a easy money set of exclusives by putting a whole bunch of figures in their Marvel color schemes
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>>11799530
I was thinking that earlier this week. I don't want to commit to rebuying a bunch of figures I already own, but I'd totally take an SS86 Kup in these colors.
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>>11799483
I like it a lot myself, but while it's somewhat better than MP-10 in several respects I think it's a lateral move everywhere else. MP figures just aren't as fun in general to me. I liked MP-10 a lot more as the Voyager class KO (it's maybe my favorite Optimus Prime figure of all time, even).
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>>11799306
>I've seen people just knock out the pin and make it removeable
Do you have any photos of that? Shoot, sounds perfect for me.
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>>11799530
SS Comic Edition will be a thing soon enough. Supposedly Purple Marvel Soundwave from SS86 is among them.
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>>11799505
Homaging the ugliest part of Animated instead of making a good looking toy.
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>>11799600
Which part?
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>>11799605
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>>11799622
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT CHINSCREAM
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...and cleft, the boy-chin wonder
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>>11799505
It doesn't match the other details at all. It's like they did the faces that way just to ensure you got the point.
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>>11799626
Looks fine to me. Is the that the other details aren't round enough?
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Science bros!
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>>11799629
It's too blocky and the proportions are something else entirely. You could put any number of Bumblebee heads on that body and get away with it, and that in itself is fine, but it makes the specific face they chose fucking weird looking.
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>>11799638
>Get Highbrow and Brainstorm, they gotta see this shit.
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>>11799623
Actual best Starscream design, I really hope they don’t fuck up that Slipstream
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>get Sidways
>very obvious tabs to lock front bumper into place for robot mode
>try
>create massive stress mark instead
Don't know what I expected
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>>11799689
you expected hasbro to make a competent product in 2026, that was your mistake
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>>11799689
Sideways has alot of problems but thats not one of them, sounds like you fucked it up
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>>11799689
Haven't heard that happening to anyone else, and it certainly hasn't happened to mine. Try not going full hamhands on your toys next time.
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>>11799666
I’m just glad we’re finally getting a Voyager Slipstream to match all the other seekers
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>>11799638
What is the smallest possible unit, a quantum, of Energon?
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Springer deserved a better attempt at recreating that shot from the movie.
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>>11799777
Reissue when
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>>11799774
I'm ready to be immensely disappointed when they inevitably reveal she's just a head pretool of animated starscream
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I was going to pre-order Skywarp but I changed my mind and canceled it. I’m just going with. Cyclonus, Shockwave and Kranix for now.
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>>11799808
Isn’t that exactly what she should be, a clone of Animated Starscream?
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>>11799808
What, no robotits?
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>>11799818
That's what she is yes, but she has a unique feminine body compared to the other clones in the cartoon.
>>11799819
I DESIRE ROBOOBS.
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Should I try to grab a nu-Cybertron Sideways? Is he even worth the $20 clearance price?
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>>11799600
Oh yeah totally, when doing a reference figure to Animated you'd never want to reference the chins because nobody ever remembers the chins when they remember Animated
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>>11799800
Hasbro: Never, buy the Siege version!
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>>11799824
Meh, He's okay. sort of a lateral move compared to the original Cybertron version
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I've got better things to do tonight than die!

>>11799800
Springer is a pretty popular character and SS86 stuff is clearly a priority right now, so hopefully it won't be too long a wait for the people who missed him. I like the mold aside from the shoulders being a little awkward and wishing there was a little more head articulation. The deco is perfect for cartoon Springer. I picked up the Wreck and Rule collection version used on the cheap too, might do some pics with that later for comparison.
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>>11799800
Wouldn't be surprised if a Dramatic Capture set came out at some point
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>>11799865
I want the studio series version but with the wreckers insignia. Without needing to customize it myself
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>>11799865
I just wish the helicopter mode on that mold wasn't so shit. It doesn't even have the tail fins.
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>>11799877
if so im betting itll be a catapult set with a arcee and kup, maybe even a daniel
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I like my chinformers
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>>11799977
That was my thought too
Maybe even a Hot Rod
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>>11799977
I'm expecting a Autobot shuttle attack pack before that.
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>>11799977
but no catapult
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>>11800054
SS 86 Commander class Catapult when?
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>>11800059
A Transformer that changed into the Catapult wouldn't be a bad idea
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>>11800062
the way hasbro has been cutting corners, itll be a repainted weaponizer that can vaguely take the catapult shape
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Consider this: A transformer of the Autobot Shuttle from TF:TM called Massacre. Just a sad sack with a lot of dead Autobots inside of him and a big hull breach blown into his side. Permanent frown on his headsculpt. Maybe a sound feature that plays a snippet of Instruments of Destruction.
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>>11800062
a catapult with wheels would make a perfect timelines megatron

perfectly retarded, but perfect nonetheless and I WANT it
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>>11800065
>just another tank because anything else looks too gunish
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>>11800065
catapults should be fine, nobody is afraid of catapult violence in the modern day
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>>11799865
I wish they painted his eyes a little nicer. I need to go in there with some paint or something because the eyes on mine look like they're pointed in different directions.
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>>11799824
>>11799840
Eh, he's alright. Better hips, worse weapon. Better cape, no leg armatures. If you ask me pretty please, I'll do a photo comparison tomorrow.
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>>11800082
It only takes one school catapulting and soon every fucking mom will be crawling out of the ductwork like the filthy lizards they are, screeching that we need to ban catapults (and put strict regulations on the length of trebuchets too.)
Anything but admit your abusive-ass kid was fucking asking for a catapulting, or a sicko who catapults people. Or both.
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>>11800082
>>11800206
The 2nd amendment protects catapult and trebuchet ownership. I can have it for self defense. If the home robber is 200 yards away and stands still he's FUCKED.
Now I kind of want some transformers that turn into pre-industrial objects. Perceptor could become an Antikythera mechanism I guess, Broadside could turn into a Trireme.
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>>11800220
see to me, part of what made transforming robots cool is how they turned into the kinds of machines I thought were relatively cool: modern industrial factory-manufactured boxes of metal. Not spindly spires of wood and cloth. They made me feel like any car could be a robot in disguise.
Now do I want triremes to transform? sure. But that should be magic. A crew of wizard pirates with a ship that turns into a fucking sea dragon, hell yes.
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>>11800229
>what made transforming robots cool is how they turned into the kinds of machines I thought were relatively cool: modern industrial factory-manufactured boxes of metal.
100%, but I like trying new things too. A DaVinci flyer seeker trio could be cool, they could suck too but I'd like to see it tried just to find out.
WW1 vehicles are also sorely underutilized, any tank from that era would make for a cool bot. Biplanes too obviously, look at RotF Ransack. I'd be fine with an Astrotrain that turned into the Gustav gun, that'd be cool enough for forgive lacking a third mode.
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>>11800234
Yeahhh definitely a lot of potential in oldtimier machines. And I wish they'd bring out experimental ones more often. We do get em, but they're rare. Like that double cockpit plane.
>gustav gun
exactly!
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Have they announced a Starscream out of this mold yet?
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>>11800239
there are seeker molds that don't BEGIN as starscream??
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>>11800239
Maybe it's Starscream's turn to be the exclusive
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>>11800237
>>gustav gun
>exactly!
I think you could fit 3 modes into that toy: Robot, locomotive, rail-mounted cannon. That's be pretty sick.
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>>11800249
you mean he'd turn into a normal train? I'm not sure that would work, since parts of him would be visibly scaled larger. Y'know this thing was like, being towed by train engines like, uh...

Who's that one Convoy whose altmode is a massive folded-up-robot trailer being towed by a teeny-tiny little truck?
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>>11800253
A regular-ass locomotive that shifted form into a big cannon (lots of panels I'm sure, main gun emerging from the top of the vehicle mode) would be cool. Idk if it could be made to work but I'd be interested in seeing.
Making another bot tow him is optional, and probably more profitable.
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>>11800258
yeah I guess I mean you could make him a GIANT locomotive. But he can't be like, a train of normal size, and then this giant rail cannon, without completely hiding the scale-obvious elements of both modes. And that sounds like a big panel-y mess. But I do like your thinking.
The real trick would be where the cannon goes in robot mode. It's just so fucking long and thin.

Ironically the other largest caliber weapons in history are total chodes, they have the opposite problem if you try to make transformers out of them. way too short and fat
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>>11800267
If everyone's cool with Broadside being a plane and an aircraft carrier then I'm not bothered by the scale difference between a standard train and that fuckhuge nazi cannon. Maybe you could do some neat engineering to make the barrel telescoping so it tucks away nicely. Or go full partsforming and make it a seperate piece but I like that idea far less.
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>>11800239
Why would they?
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>>11800242
Yes
>>11800243
Has there ever been a line where at least one of the main 6 seekers was some kind of exclusive?
>>11800283
I just want my 3 amigos Anon
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>>11800243
>Maybe it's Starscream's turn to be the exclusive


It is. He's going to be a Target exclusive along with SS86 Prowl and the Insecticon 3 Pack.
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>>11800296
Those bastards
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>>11800275
well I don't so much mean scale as just hiding all the complex piston mechanisms and wheels so there's no obvious clues. I'm big on my toys not LOOKING like obvious toys, and these days? They barely try to hide altmodes at all.

I suppose if you partsformed the TIP of the barrel, that wouldn't be so bad. what remains would be a fuckhuge cannon but nothing out of the ordinary for, like, G2 Megatron.

>>11800243
just like his counterpart, Terrorsaur
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>>11798785
>and the overall concept for the Thirteen started in 1999 as the Covenant (here only 12, based on the zodiac),


Whut was this in anything at the time?
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>>11800319
3H BotCon stuff, written by Simon Furman, who would later write the 2004 Ultimate Guide. This guy is one of them.
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>>11800326
This scorpion is fucking naked
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>>11800344
Yeah...?
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>>11800295
Awesome shot. Light piping on your Skywarp looks a lot better than it does on my Thundercracker too, but I think that's maybe because the clear plastic didn't make it in as far it should have and there visible gaps around the eyes.
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>>11800344
i wish I'd saved pics of the custom paint job I did. Made it look a touch more natural.. and I'm too tired to go take more pics.
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>>11800344
lol he really is a naked guy
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TAKARA WINS... AGAIN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsX2uOzl4s0
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>>11800353
Thanks Anon, I think most of the glow comes from the purple lights.
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>>11800400
>Megatron is a super soaker
Takara... has fallen...
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>>11800400
Kuromi when
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>>11800441
>Attacks you in the middle of winter
>You die a slow death due to pneumonia instead of dying immediately by a gunshot

Don't let that smile fool you, anon.
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>>11800296
it's almost like hasbro doesn't want me to buy their product
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I know this is a bit off topic but what is everyone’s opinion on improving G1 Starsaber combined mode
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>>11800481
Not that offtopic if you include the Adamas Machina version
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>>11800488
Yeah but he’s IDW
They’re both based on this guy though
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>>11800465
getting cold doesn't magically give you pneumonia
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>>11800495
Can't you just take an exaggeration for the sake of a dumb joke for what it is, anon?
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>>11800481
that picture is pretty much what my ideal Victory saber redesign would look like, a much more even distribution of Victory Leo mass, along with actually having the cool lion face on display in combined mode instead of stowing it away on the backpack like a coward. I'd also maybe have a new helmet or some extra ornamentation on the existing one, because I like when super modes do that sort of thing. Basically, just copy Great Da-Garn GX's homework, which was already kind of a redo of Victory Saber anyways
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>>11800481
I like this one. I like the idea of the lion chest but >>11800493
goes overboard making him look edgy and feral which doesn't really suit him
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>>11800509
> Basically, just copy Great Da-Garn GX's homework
My brother
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>>11800512
Yeah but the second one is IDW and we can thank flame toys for the designs existence, but I do somewhat agree, it’s very pointy
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>>11800504
it's not an exaggeration, there's simply no connection whatsoever
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>>11800509
I don't mind that Victory Saber's combination is a bit clunkier, since he's the working prototype of Great Da-Garn
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>>11800493
lol does he have whiskers? kinda like that idea
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>>11800441
>Hasbro also owns Nerf
>Never made a transforming Megatron dart gun
The idea's looking you right in the face, Hasbro!
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>>11800618
Wasn't Classics Megatron based on one?
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>>11800625
Yeah the Nerf Maverick to be specific
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>>11800618
I think the mechanism(s) for actually firing darts would be too obstructive. you could make one but the robot mode would look like complete ass
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>>11800653
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>>11800665
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>>11800515
You must be fun at parties.
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>>11797974
What? Both of them showed up in stores. I found Rumble at Target twice and one at Walmart but I am in the North East US less than 8 hours away from most of the ports and distribution centers are so it can get weird and hard to find shit like that Walmart GIJoe Ghost Viper is making a monolith tower in my store.

>>11797983
>>11797986
>>11798094
Also worth noting that if they kept Core size and matched it with the price hikes of Deluxe onward they would be between $14 and $18 dollars which I can't see collectors stomach nearly $20 for say Steeljaw or Eject.
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>>11800465
Gave me a chuckle, don't let that retard get to you anon.
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So more or less leaker from China semi confirmed that Primus will be next haslab. So it tracks with jtprime 400$ spiked bot.

>still happy with Cybertron one, even if it lacks ass flap
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>>11800665
You're only proving >>11800653 right. Those look like complete ass. That said, I still want one.
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>>11800717
Aw man, I wanted Devil Gigatron.
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>>11800717
How much smaller than Unicron is he going to be if he's only 400 in current year money?
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>>11800723
>You're only proving >>11800653 right.
...Yes, anon. That was reason I posted the pics. I was agreeing with them. I was providing examples of their point.
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>>11800727
I bet their aim is smaller one so haslab Unicron or potential SS86 Unicron could scale in those few scenes from the movie.

>>11800724
That can be done at titan, also haslab kills any repaint potential.
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>>11800717
I like Cybertron/GF, but this would flop if true
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>>11800717
>only one Cyber Planet Key
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>>11800481
As neat as that design is, I don't want him to look even more like a generic brave robot. Arm weapons are appreciated though.
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>>11800717
Wallets breathes a sigh of release.
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>>11800717
I'd rather get an Armada Unicron desu senpai.
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>>11800724
Gigatron can't be a haslab because he needs to be available in two color schemes. He can be a MTO figure.
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>>11800813
I got Energon deco

>>11800751
Yeah, trying to hunt rest of those.
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>>11800814
He'd have to be a leader or smaller for them to release him in two decos. Look at how long it took to do just G2 Menasor or SG Skyfire.
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I just wish they did an encore of Cybertron Primus and Armada Unicron. I always liked playing with them, but they're so old now that I'm scared the ratchets will break.
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>>11800839
I wish they'd do them in a smaller size class, make the altmodes the size of a softball or so. Then you could transform them back and forth without having a baby-sized plastic robot balanced on your lap.
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>>11800896
Those images of haslab unicron sitting in the backseat were something else
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when Hasbro?
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Got a cheap 86 Optimus on ebay. Will probably get fucked over, so stay tuned.
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>>11800907
This one of Takashi Kunihiro will always be my favorite
>>11800926
I feel like Takara has probably told Hasbro to not do these kind of toys to not compete with Missing Link. I think this would be an excellent Commander class
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Great, after wallet killer Unicron, we're getting another figure in the Divorce class.
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For all the fan service from the trigger anniversary short, I'm surprised there wasn't a shot of Primus and Unicron grappling in space.
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>>11800513
He really is just an improved Victory Saber
>>11800540
I don't mind it on the original VS toy since it was the proto-brave, but any iterations or redesigns should absolutely be cribbing as much as they can from Braves. Transformersl should be cribbing more from yuusha in general. Give Prime super modes again!!
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>>11800481
Is that heavenly tyrant? That looks amazing. I already have him and he's blow the haslab out of the water if he was just slightly bigger. Don't like how small their Saber core bot is, but it also has a lot of attention put into it.
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>>11800488
I really want AM Star Saber in Decepticon colors since Haslab is probably a no-go.
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The NFL collab is working out really well, guys
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>>11801012
There might be an issue of being sold in states they don't represent.
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>>11800400
I want a Kittytron..
>>11800441
japan fell a long time ago.
>>11800447
I'm more of a Mimmy man myself.
>>11800465
>>11800495
They do for Japanese. They don't really have homeothermy (or functional earwax) the way the rest of us mammals do.
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>>11800950
Did Primus and Unicron ever actually fight in any of the cartoons?
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>>11800931
Why, what did the description say?
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>>11800400
Looks like a toy for little girls, how is this takara winning
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>>11801019
yeahh I'm pretty sure footballers only like some teams..
I guess I would theoretically buy a dallas cowboys former because good color scheme and logo, but I would want it to turn into something cooler than a helmet. like howbout a steer.
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>>11801034
making little girls cooler
which means little boys will have someone to marry
which means we won't be as fucked
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>>11801037
Is that you, ghost of Shinzo Abe?
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>>11801036
can confirm, only teams id buy are the eagles and bears; other than those two i could care less about the colab
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>>11801042
.. did he die?
>>11801050
if they were smart, they'd make them all just the mascots. Most sports teams have fucking cool vicious animals, or ethnically-specific warriors (for the robot modes), or whatever.
Though occasionally you get some people who missed the assignment, and you get teams called the Twins or 'The Wild' like your team is the concept of wilderness? what?
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>>11801058
>.. did he die?
I don’t know how to tell you this, anon, but, yes, he did. Very violently so
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>>11801031
The one that's an open box listing that is almost certainly a scam, but might as well try.
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>>11801063
You’ll take your toy accurate head size and like it
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>>11801063
My Liokeiser came in the mail, but I'm too sick to play with him :(
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>>11800983
>Transformersl should be cribbing more from yuusha in general.
I'd love a yuusha transformers series where Prime gets his super mode, then a SUPER super mode, and the rest of the autobots are 2/3 man combiner teams. And as I'm typing this I realize I'm just asking for Victory 2.
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>>11801061
aw man. did it at least make people sympathetic to his cause and start making babies?
>>11801083
oh yeah, the Phillies. well... you could make a cute pony transformer, the Philadelphia Filly. I'd buy that.
actually a somewhat chibi horse would be a lot easier to make transform than the spindly-legged real life kind.
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>>11801092
No. The Phanatic must remain AS IS. With his nose as a power fusion canon.
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I wonder when will HasBro make the season 1 Maximals multipack?
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>>11801099
It was already leaked, it's 2027.
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>get shipping notice from Hasbro Pulse
>It's Dramatic Capture Skywarp/Insecticons and Missing Link Ultra Magnus
My credit card is getting pounded this month.
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>>11801085
It's good news that he arrived safely! At least you can mess with him anytime you want once you feel better without worrying about any lousy shipping mishaps!
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>>11801012
another desperate attempt to get kids interested in a dying brand?

>>11801083
would be perfect for BEAST WAAAAAAAARS
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>>11801130
I gotta say, the combined mode looks even better in person! It's proportions are great, which is super relieving since I thought frame combiners all had weird proportions. As for the individual bots, I find all the arm bots great, I love the engineering in them, and their alt modes don't look off. Liozack's weird, all of his transformations are super simple, I expected more from the leader! The leg bot alt modes look kinda lazy, i'm guessing they had to "budget" them since the they have so much more mass than anyone else in the set. Though personally, I love how drillhorn's altmode looks! Killbison, not so much. Jaruga is there. They didn't let him do much.
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How many of you actually grew up watching Victory?
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>>11801142
I just watched it last year
Liokaiser is definitely one of the best combiner teams
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>>11801137
>Jaruga is there. They didn't let him do much.
Side effect of the original transformation. I do miss the jets touching toes across his back, but who knows how the hell they would have pulled off the arm mass otherwise if they had to split the difference.
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>>11801155
ooh that is nice and solid.
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>>11801089
>Prime gets his super mode, then a SUPER super mode, and the rest of the autobots are 2/3 man combiner teams
That's why Energon was so cool, the toyline anyways. Actually, when was the last time Optimus(or another main guy) got any sort of super mode? Transformers Go?
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>>11801184
the fuck is transformers go?
what new version of optimus has there even been since the movies and Prime? what, some of that netflix shorts stuff?
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>>11801203
>the fuck is transformers go?
Japan didn't import season 3 of Prime, and instead released its own miniseries released through, like, dvds included with magazines. Prime in it tripleschanges from bullet train to dragon and can also combine with other characters
>what new version of optimus has there even been since the movies and Prime? what, some of that netflix shorts stuff?
u wot m8, you're like, a decade out of date with Transformers media. there's been constant new Optimuses since then
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>>11801210
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>>11801203
Japanese exclusive sequel to TFP, Optimus was a train and could combine with the two other leader characters. the original toys kinda sucked but there's some cool ideas probably
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>>11801210
Fair enough, I kinda forgot about cyberverse. And Wild King, which is stupid of me since I'm really excited for Rex Blade.
That Optimus combining with the Ark looks kinda cool, reminds me of Gridman. I don't remember if it had knees or not though, that's kind of a dealbreaker
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>predacon box arrived damaged
I know it's autism but would they replace it?
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>>11801250
If you didn't open it, they do.
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>>11801092
He was assassinated with a ludicrous homemade shotgun.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Shinzo_Abe
>>next megatron deco when
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>>11801254
oh nice, guess i'll be sending it in tomorrow
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>>11801092
>aw man. did it at least make people sympathetic to his cause and start making babies?
No, believe or not, people actually took the shooter's complaints seriously and looked into the corruption Shinzo Abe was involved in, and enacted laws to help prevent that corruption from happening again. Abe's assassination is one of the most successful and effective assassinations in a while.
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>>11801289
Corruption is bad but having children is pretty good
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>transart rage quits before we get an Apelinq
>RotB has Ape Linq but different continuity and no cool teal and red
>No transmetals to even repaint him from
>I just found out we got a Swapticon Apelinq

What the fuck how?! I only know what these are because of the fanart last thread. What gulp shittos are you guys waiting on?
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Maybe we'll get him in this form when we get Overload....
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>>11801325
Wait for Robot toys to make one
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>>11801331
Actually scratch that
I forgot they already made one
Albeit a smaller scale
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>>11801336
It's not released yet but I'm excited. I bought their Megatron but I wasn't a fan of how they stylized it but it seems like went back on it.
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>>11801325
>What the fuck how?!
A lot of the Swapticon pairs are guys that are same alt-mode. Apelinq came with Primal.
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Cryotek when
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>>11801340
Me too, im hoping they redo them both
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>>11801343
Fun fact, Hasbro executives actually read through these threads and every time they see someone ask about Cryotek they push him back another year
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>>11801325
Cryotek
G1 Skyquake
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>>11801378
That's cold.
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>>11801207
>>11801208
cute idea at least
>>11801213
oh THAT. I thought that was called something else. Something japanesier.
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>>11801258
that is at least kind of badass
>>11801289
the fuck? well that's at least a step toward japan questioning their government more.
>>11801313
yeah I guess it's like even Hitler cared about dogs and shit. Nobody's all bad.
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>>11801329
overload! THAT was the guy I was talking about earlier >>11800253 here

and yeah I like the red n blue guy, he's been very cool repaints of Primal and I want those.
>>11801331
This is good but the altmode needs work and the kibble is kinda misproportioned all around.
>>11801336
god this design needs to be redone from scratch.
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>>11801343
>22 years ago
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>>11801396
>kibble
This is bait right?
> design needs to be redone from scratch.
Sounds like you just dislike TM Primal
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>>11801407
Forgot pic
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>>11801388
Well yeah, it is Cryotek after all
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>>11801407
I am very open about the fact I dislike TM Primal. I dislike everything except
>the cool chrome blue gorilla face
>the third mode being a flying surfboard gorilla
he needs to be started over.
>bait
am I wrong? I don't think his arm-legs were that small. I don't think that's what his wings looked like, least of all how they were spaced, and I don't think that's what his abdomen looked like in either mode.
The head antennae being so thin, I would say "okay I guess it's unavoidable" except his wasp antennae don't seem to have that problem.
also his forearms look too short, but I'm open to being corrected on that with a screencap.
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>>11801409
Waspinator has an indestructible spark.
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>>11801417
Maybe you're just misremembering what he looks like?
>I am very open about the fact I dislike TM Primal
Evidently
I only dislike his Robot face, the rest I like
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>>11801428
hm. yeah you're right. I'm just so used to T30. but you're right, this does nail his show look. His wings were just always flappin' so quickly I didn't notice they were... weird kinda diamonds.

this thing is smaller than CHUG scale, right?
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>>11801432
No, that one is MP sized Waspinator
The Primal is smaller than CHUG
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>>11801436
ohh. man it's gotta be weird collecting MP and having to rely on like three chinese companies to finish it for you. That one Terrorsaur is fucking amazing, even got his chest and neck parts right.
I'd be content with one that simply copies the toy transformation and modifies it, but for MP that might not be enough.
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>>11801378
Fine then, Hasbro. Fuck Cryotek, all my homies hate Cryotek!
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>>11801445
I've been keeping my eye out for an affordable 3p one, but so far nothing has tickled my pickle.
it's gonna be crazy when this finally comes out, perhaps 5 years from now. I mean molds last a while, right?
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>>11801453
Far from affordable but there’s a huge one that pretty cool
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>>11801464
hm yeah not bad
not to cunt up our thread with 3p talk but I feel like an absolute numbnuts for missing out on another run of that one 3p movie grimlock (the one GOOD one) I'd already missed out on, at an affordable price, and at a store that it turned out I had like 90 dollars in store credit on. But it's probably gone for good now.
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>Guns aren't exactly friendly...
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>>11801467
There's one at TFSafari for very cheap
The G-Creation one right?
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Who on the team thought this pancake face and weirdly centered tits looked good?
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>>11801497
Forgot the soulpatch they gave her for some reason.
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>>11801500
that's just normal transformer head design, several female characters have it. you gotta stop seeing it as facial hair
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>>11801512
It's a recent trend and it looks like shit.
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>>11801468
Still can't figure out what is going on with Kup's head.
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>>11801540
the chin thing has been common since G1
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>>11801325
War Within Jetfire feels like a shitto when there's 15 other Jetfires that will likely be made before they consider him
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>>11801590
I'm talking about on fembot.
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>>11801512
>that's just normal transformer head design
More like a normal super robot head design, same with the chin protrusions. I just can't see them as a goatee at all.
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>>11797961
Thunderwing is so fucking cool. I hope he sells gangbusters so they can make a proper Bludgeon too.
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>>11801497
please understand, it's been so long since they made a toy that actually looks female that they forgot how
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>>11801619
Those are literally visual callbacks to fake beards on samurai armor.
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>>11801623
Don't get your hopes up
Thunderwing being a mega pretender makes a lot more sense to adapt since the whole thing can actually transform/combine rather than just being a shell. Plus we haven't gotten a Thunderwing in 14 years.
The two recent Tarn-Bludgeons are both very good, probably better than a "proper" pretender Bludgeon would be.
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>>11801637
>The two recent Tarn-Bludgeons are both very good
Wrong and gay, queer even. The best Bludgeon we've gotten since the RotF figure is unironically the RID deluxe.
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>>11801637
>The two recent Tarn-Bludgeons are both very good
Not with that sad shrug of an altmode.
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>>11801633
so why are they sticking them on the women?
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aside from G1 and Alternators, which Transformers have the cleanest vehicle modes?
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>>11801650
2006-2014 has a lot of "still the best"s.

I don't even like this thing all that much amd I loathe IDW but it's obviously better than the Siege/SS86 one.
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Pretenders are an awful gimmick one step above action masters
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>>11801664
I own that one, transformation is kind of a shit and he doesn’t pose too well, jinda fiddly shoulders too but that's my copy getting loose. 86 is much better.
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>>11801662
A lot of the original movie toylines are pretty nice in the alt mode department, even the Scouts. The RID/Car Robots car guys also have nice altmodes, though they're shit otherwise.

And underrated one I'd propose is WFC Bumblebee. It looks so satisfying, and a rare example of a Cybertronian altmode being more than an excuse for laziness. The recent SS version also looks nice, but the robot mode is so naff in comparison to the original I refuse to give it much credit.
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>>11801688
WfC Optimus is great, I even liked the FoC one though it's nowhere near as good. I kept the Ultra Magnus repaint and call him Magnum.
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>>11801677
Explain your position
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>>11801649
The same reason they put greeble meant for far larger scale objects than 5 meter tall robots during siege, they're bad at their jobs.
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>picked up Excellion at a con
>probably overpaid for what's a very unposable figure, poses less than a beast wars toy
>but he's in Hot Rod's colours, my favourite
>never owned any UT series figures
It must have been like 7.25 USD
I guess he's okay? Can someone sell me on this toy I already bought?
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>>11801700
NTA, but I personally tend to not like Pretenders because I think the shell gimmick is kind of boring. It’s basically the equivalent of Ultra Magnus's armor not transforming into a trailer for him to pull, which is why I actually do like the Mega Pretenders, since their shells actually do transform
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>>11801715
Why didn't you buy this instead?
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>>11801715
Why didn't you buy THIS instead?
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>>11801715
>>11801724
>>11801725
This guy's got some funky arms doesn't he?
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Did somebody say Bludgeon?

>>11801623
Hyped for Thunderwing and would also love this.

>>11801637
But as this anon pointed out, it seems unlikely due to pretender toy design logistics.

>>11801648
I like the mold but I can't really disagree. The Stormbringer Bludgeon alt actually looks worse despite being less shitty to transform.

>>11801650
Hey, that actually looks pretty good.
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IDW Bludgeon was a real piece of shit.
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>>11801664
I wish I didn't miss out on the Cloud repaints. Although I have no idea why they even made this mold Rodimus
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>>11801775
Battletrap was even stranger. Cool though.
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>>11801779
Oh yeah I forgot about this guy
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>>11801775
I feel like part of it is due to it being the closest mold to IDW Rodimus's design. I’m more shocked they never used it for a Drift toy
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>>11801664
this was a great Springer.
Sandstorm was pretty good too.
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>>11801781
Strange that they did Battletrap from Springer but not Flywheels from Blitzwing
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>>11801821
Cripplechanger
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>>11801830
>spare some change
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What do you guys think of Breakway? He seems like a decently fun bot, but I have little actual interest in soccer
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>>11801855
>spare some triplechange?
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>>11801664
>>11801821
I still have 30th Springer, but I wound up buying 86 Springer on clearance. It was still a waste of money, totally inferior. Naturally I have no intention of "upgrading" from 30th Sandstorm.
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>>11801865
YOUUUUUUUUU!
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>>11801830
Great War veteran Sandstorm lived to the Beast era.
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In the court of the Decepticon king.
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>>11801436
Smaller than chug? Is it supposed to be legends scale? And if so, have they done normal primal yet?
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>>11801855
>spare some convert?
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>>11801889
IMO it's more impressive that you have the SS86 Frumbles than all of Devastator.
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>>11801882
Was the BW dude supposed to be him? I thought that "Sandstorm" was an alias, and he was actually some kind of spy.>>11801889
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>>11801830
>"Hey, I saw you not standing during the pledge! Some of us don't have a choice anymore so ungrateful shits like you can!"
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>>11801825
>but not Flywheels from Blitzwing
Well kind of
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>>11801977
Sandstorm was a member of the Convenant (the prototype to Furman's 13 primes) so no obviously.
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>>11801975
SS86 Rumble is so expensive it's generally cheaper to buy the whole Legacy Soundwave leader pack just for that Rumble instead.
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we getting any SDCC reveals like the Joes are?
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>kit cost more than the base toy
but wow
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>>11802041
Some headsculpts are so bad they singlehandedly almost convince you to get a resin 3D printer
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>>11802018
yeah there's gonna be a SDCC exclusive of that one transformer you really want and it's going to be $500 on ebay
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>>11802018
Nothing official yet, though JTPrime claims the SDCC exclusive is a Jem crossover toy
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>>11801471
whoa! yeah I think so. I have to do some research now but.. thank you!
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>>11801830
kek
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>>11802041
The bigger question here is why you would bother buying a kit that replaces the robot mode head of a character who basically doesn't transform because her whole thing is that she literally believes she's a real magpie. The bigger concern her would be to get a kit that fixes her bird mode, as she's a rare example of a Transformer who's alt mode is more important than her robot one.
The only reason that one fraction-of-a-second, out-of-focus rear shot of her even made it into the show was because her designer was upset that he made a robot mode for her only for the script to demand that she was going to be in bird mode all the time; you never actually see her face, the robot mode is never seen again at any point in the one episode she was in, and her later appearance in that short story had her permanently in bird form at all times.
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>>11802117
Because she's hot, dumbass
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Never change, bros.
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>>11801497
"Dad why don't we get female transformers that look female?"
"we can't, We don't know how"
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>>11802041
what else does the kit come with?
I'm kinda happy with her but I didn't watch the show she was from
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>>11802124
NTA, but birb mode is hotter.
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>>11802018
They're going to show off the Haslab Primus obviously
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>>11802145
>I didn't watch the show she was from
Here - 21 minutes of your time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm7Yv7IbbVY
It's literally her only appearance, so you don't need to see any of the other episodes. Her whole thing is that she's such a birdbrain that she literally believes she's a giant bird, and steals shiny shit to decorate her nest like real Corvids do. She's not actually evil, just animalistic.
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>>11802153
and i love that, but i'm okay with the toy I got because it's not like this show design is exactly a masterpiece
but i do wanna know what the kit changes, might keep an eye on it
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>>11801985
Now I want some steak.
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>>11802143
>"we can't, We don't know how"
The key is to let Takara design them. The hasbro designers can't even tell you what a woman is.
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>>11802143
We can but they'll suck
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>>11802151
Shame it'll probably be the Galaxy Force design and not G1 Cybertron
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>>11802153
>Hey Hasbro, can we get an Airazor retool into a literal one episode who from RID?
>Sure
>Hey Hasbro, can we get a Strongarm retool into Nightra?
>No
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>>11802288
>Hey Hasbro, can we stop for ice cream?
>I don't see why not
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>>11802244
It will absolutely be a G1 Cybertron you stupid fool, what year do you think it is?
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>>11801744
They should turn Bludgeon into a mega pretender like thunderwing desu, he's popular enough for it
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>>11802244
>>11802315
Are there any major differences between the two besides the head sculpt?
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>>11802329
Cybertron, the planet.
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>>11797961
make it so
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>>11802357
The Galaxy Force Primus design has a ton of G1 cities on it, including Iacon and Kaon
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>>11802380
>a ton of G1 cities on it
It has two and some generic cities.
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>>11802369
I don't like that the human sized disguises are the shell while the bigger robot is inside it triggers me
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>>11801724
>>11801725
They didn't have those!!!
>>11801727
Mine only has ball joints for the shoulders (and thighs) and some sideways motion for the arms due to transformation, felt like they could have given him knees, even Bee's knees perhaps
I'm looking at the orange and black and just considering him as a Rodimus who's mastered both the matrix and the darkness inside of it, like a sort of books-only Luke, so I'm rather happy now
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>>11802459
If you give it a black visor, the shell basically looks like SNAKE armor instead
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>>11802474
Oh that's kinda sick, I like that
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>>11802459
In Marvel G1, the shells are giant humans in suits because the Decepticons they were trying to trick were rock stupid.
In JP G1, the shells shrink to human size.
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>>11802459
now that you mention it, that is a tad backwards
>>11802474
whoa that' sfrom GI Joe??
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>>11802497
Yeah, it’s from the 6” Classified line
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>>11802474
That Stormtrooper looks JACKED
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>>11802505
You mean Zero-G Assault Trooper, the thing the original Darktrooper Phase III was supposed to be inspired by and intended to replace in the original Dark Forces game.
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>>11802509
I'm just saying, the workout regiment he's on is no joke.
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>>11802492
rock.
stupid.
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>>11802520
badass
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>>11802520
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>>11802524
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Which G1 optimus can survive being struck by pinballs?
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>>11802529
>C-lister
That's a very generous statement
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>>11802529
You know, if Skybound ever want to make a quick buck they could make a new bio book that reprints all the old Universe ones and finally include the ones that were accidentally left out like the Deluxe Insecticons or Hubcap
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>>11802532
Sorry, I meant Z-lister, my finger zlipped
>>11802548
>no Marvel bio for Doublecross and a bunch of people who were missed out
Deluxe Insecticons would be nice, poor Venom especially. I do have a DW one for Hubcap tho
>this fucking bio
I generally have no hate for any Transformers character but something about this guy makes my eye twitch
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>>11801975
Sad, but true. I was able to get him from an Amazon third party seller for a ten dollar markup last year before he became stupidly hard to find. And I'm glad I did, the little loudmouth has always been one of my favorites.
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>>11802459
That's why pretenders should also be headmaster.
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>>11801889
>>11801975
>>11802557
Man
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>>11802555
One of the few they had to expand for the Dreamwave bio book. Many years after it was published the full Budiansky bio was finally discovered.

>Profile: Hub Cap has everybody's friendship but nobody's trust. He is affable, witty, generous, even charming -- it is no wonder that his fellow Autobots find him such pleasant company. But he's also a con artist. He is likely to enthusiastically accept some work detail one moment and then try to sucker someone else into doing it the next. Or he might try to smooth talk a comrade into trading his weapon for an inferior one. Hub Cap is surprisingly effective at his scams. Perhaps it's the smiling, sincere way he talks or perhaps it's because he looks small and unthreatening. Whatever the case, Hub Cap is living proof of the old Cybertronian adage, "You can't tell an Autobot by it's finish."

>Abilities: Not only is Hub Cap adept at speaking, he's even better at listening. Equipment within his head module allows him to receive a broad spectrum of electromagnetic signals -- AM and FM radio, shortwave, UHF and VHF television broadcasts. He uses his phosphorescent windshield as a television screen when receiving TV signals. Amplifying circuits allow him to detect signals as weak as .000001 watts. His audio circuitry can hear a pin drop 500 yards away, and has a frequency range of 5 to 50,000 Hertz. In car mode, he can travel up to 90 mph and has a range of 1000 miles.

>Weaknesses: Hub Cap is physically among the weakest of the Autobots. Even low-speed crashes can result in severe damage to his body.
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>>11802520
Wait, Iguanus can FLY!?
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wonder if we'd have gotten octopunch if core class hadn't been retired
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>>11802612
No, Bomb-Burst is carrying him
>>11802615
I would prefer him to be a deluxe
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My dang Amalgamous has two dang left feet
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>>11802644
dagnabbit. Oh well, factory work is hard.. It's sad we don't have robots doing it all yet.
Well I guess it's new thread time.. who's feeling up to it? Do we have new bins?
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>>11802609
>he's even fucking worse originally
KILL
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>>11802145
>what else does the kit come with?
Thread's at image limit so:
>Cartoony tail extender
>Two big "feathers" on 5mm pegs
>Replacement waist front armor
>Non-organic looking replacement feet
Basically the rest of the parts try to make her look more cartoony and less BW-organic without serious disassembly. It's like the only kit for Filch from Chinese sellers so it shouldn't be hard to find on ebay or whatever.

>>11802117
I did want the bird mode parts only but it's in a bundle. I'm warming up to the new head though after seeing it in-hand and comparing with Hasbro's.
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>>11802660
ahh thanks, I'm glad people still do stuff like this from time to time.
I'm actually surprised the face seems to have a nice more G1esque face rather than the one the actual toy gave us, which fits that often-horrendous-looking show that tried so hard to ape Animated without understanding it
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>>11802660
>>11802668
oh that's unfortunate, the new tail fits UNDER the existing tail. but still, better than nothing. And it looks like the original 3d printed design also replaces part of her chest? I'm confused about how the head works since the eyes seem hollow, does it clip on? and if so, can she still transform? hm.
I feel bad about how chineebs just steal these 3d printed designs and sell them, but I don't know how else I'm supposed to get them without a printer, and in the right color at that.
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>>11802668
It's the missing nose. TF Prime and RID's designers weren't that into the producer's request to omit the noses, so they compensated by deliberately extending the helmet arch down to fill up where the noses would be and don't all look like Voldemort.

Legacy TFP and Strongarm skipped that and just gave them noses. I don't like it but it helps them blend better with the G1 characters I guess.

Whoever did Filch's head though, didn't do either so you end up with a freaky Voldemort-face.
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>>11802670
>And it looks like the original 3d printed design also replaces part of her chest? I'm confused about how the head works since the eyes seem hollow, does it clip on? and if so, can she still transform? hm.
>I feel bad about how chineebs just steal these 3d printed designs and sell them
No idea what you mean and this one's not a stolen design, are you sure you're looking at the same kit?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/205307853319
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>>11802670
>oh that's unfortunate, the new tail fits UNDER the existing tail. but still, better than nothing.
Wasn't there an anon here who gave her really long tail feathers? I think he said it was an Airazor kit her repainted?
>And it looks like the original 3d printed design also replaces part of her chest?
No, that's a new crotchplate, from the looks of it. Her chest can't be altered because her bird head has to slot into it.
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>>11801909
> legends scale?
Yes
>have they done normal primal yet?
Yes, but it's stylised and I hope they have another go at both Primal and Megatron
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I just picked up SS86 galvatron and was just wondering is his horn during transformation something I should be worried about? The way it goes into his chest makes me think it's going to damage itself over time
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>>11802778
>>11802778
>>11802778
hit img limit
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>>11801858
I would like a repaint of him into a generic fifa branding, not interested in the US glaze

>>11802244
Good, the "dreamwave" colors kind of sucks
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>>11802584
Yes that's perfect, it makes more sense for the tiny bot inside to be the human disguise. Reminds me, i'm peeved that saber doesn't seem to use his brainmaster to hang out with jan. Do they ever use the tiny brainmasters on their own in the show?

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