>>2847160
>is there something I am missing
I rather enjoyed the furniture museum...but yeah, Korea isnt very functional for foreingers.

Yeah, South Korea is kinda lame compared to the other East Asian countries. Still okay though, most of the historic and cultural sites are in North Korea. South Korea was the peasant backwater, so you gottta wait until daddy Kim lets in capitalist piggus if you wanna see the real Korea.

>want to go into shop to get some food
>NO SORRY NO ENGLISH!
>place also clearly has those electronic ordering things to use
>(proceed to say that's okay in korean)
>SORRY CLOSE
>sign is 24hr
>uhh okay I guess...

While it doesn't exactly bother me that much it's insane how dumb this shit is when you get outside of shit right around the main train station downtown. I've tried to find a place to drink and either I am doing something horribly wrong, like full retard mode, but every time I slip into a foreign themed bar it's full of either
A) Depressed old dudes who spent their 20's-40's there in the military now just here for the rest of it
B) Fresh from college military or English Teachers who know about as much as you do on anything fun to do "but at least it's not the fuckin USA LOL!"

>>2847160
>>you saw a picture of yeah hope you got an ARC card because you need to book it on our shitty government run app that barely works
>nooooooo what do you mean they don't allow rampet tourism to destroy their shrines
>>Ha paying with visa? chump, not accepted here why you not have Kakao pay? Oh yeah you need ARC for that lol.
Hardly an issue if you have half a brain cell
>> Yeah those are closed for uhh idk... Oh no it doesn't look like that really except one short part of the season that lasts for a week or so
See point 1
>>every subway smells like kimchi+garlic+fish even if you're on the 5am train it somehow still smells
Wow you mean it smells like their most popular foods that everyone eats?
>>every historic site is basically a reconstruction of what it might have been way back when Korea was a farming nation
Wow it's almost like Korea has been bullied by both of their neighbors for thousands of years now
>>want to go up mountain path or hike get asked "what are you doing here?" by every passing 50 year old park hand?
How dare locals want to know about you!
>>half the websites barely work when using an English function if you're a foreigner some shit is just completely off the table to attempt even if you want to pay cash
Almost like you're in a foreign country that doesn't speak English as their first language!
>>try to find some other tourist tips but it all boils down to "Seoul->DMZ->Gangnam!!! and maybe Jeju"
Reddit take
>>women are decent but have insanely weird expectations on things or full on crazy
wow, it's almost like you're in one of the most feminist asian countries!

Stick to Japan, it's definitely more your speed if you want to litter and shit up the local shrines with no care in the world.

>>2847265
Is SK good to travel to if you’re a female?

>>2847160
Idk, I think you just did SK wrong mate, there is plenty of cool stuff there if you do some research. Go to some other neighborhoods of Seoul if you hate Itaewon, go check out some markets, go hike in a park in the mountains, go to Hongdae, go to Busan if you can't stand Seoul. I kind of always though SK was basically Japan-lite without all the weeb stuff, although there is manhwa in South Korea and a fair amount of weeb things there. Anyways, I think you just did it wrong.

>>2847309
>Korean markets
The only worthwhile one is Chinatown and that's mid at best. Most Korean markets are secondhand used slop or actual chang shit that barely works.
> go hike in a park in the mountains,
The OP discussed this, there are issues with being bothered and yeah most are boring. Outside of Seoul it's a fun guessing game of "is this owned by someone?"
>Hongdae
I legitimately wish I knew why people bring this up, it's an incredibly shitty place. The shops are just more copy and paste of what is all around every mall in Korea. Maybe it was the shit before covid but it's mid at best, inb4 "go at night bro" oh yeah dude can't wait to go by copy and paste 70/80 karaoke clubs and shitty bars that won't let anyone none native/asian in. Wow bro so cool. The University is laughable.

>SK was basically Japan-lite
I thought that before I went there, now I see it as basically a place that looks at nature as kind of an afterthought. Sure it exists I went to busan already, and it was fine. Without sounding like a weeb/otaku, to Japan's credit I can basicaly google/search up have everything, have google maps plot a hiking trail I know is open, stroll through, and find something unique.

Korea is
>download Naver/Kakao
>get shitty instructions on a day trip with who knows if the hours are actually correct
>get to place, after crowded ass train smelling of kimchi and garlic
>3/5 things closed in winter because fuck you, reading the trail sign shows nothing about being closed, 2 km in park hand mentions closed in winter
>okay I'll explore the town of Chuncheon
>old people wonder why the fuck I am in their town, explain I want to explore Korea and see outside seoul
>they look annoyed and just say something like oh okay
>try to find some place to have a local taste of the alcohol there lol nothing open till 6pm that isn't cass/tera
>go back home

Maybe if into clubbing it's fine, but dunno that shit's like the weekend only for me

>>2847265
>Hardly an issue if you have half a brain cell
Then what am I missing, some of the concerts I wanted to attend only allowed for Kakao pay as Visa and MC weren't accepted. Looking to pay in alternative methods is usually a reddit thread of "worked for me I went and used my ARC card and it was fine" CLOSED! Yeah I have a wowpass card for local card shit but it still asks for information I don't have as a tourist for a fair number of things unless I want to register into a tour group. Sorry grampa I am not going to go into a tour group to see a few things.
>Wow you mean it smells like their most popular foods that everyone eats?
I know this might be hard but most trains in asia don't absolutely fucking reek of breakfast/lunch/dinner like they do in india Raj.
>How dare locals want to know about you!
You know what I mean if English is a first language, it's the "what are you doing" in the tone of a cop or someone in authority who's trying to dick wave or just be an ass. It's annoying and you can't tell me you've not experienced this in korea. Been here multiple months to get around and yeah it's fairly mid.

>Stick to Japan, it's definitely more your speed if you want to litter and shit up the local shrines with no care in the world.
I've been to Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand, HK, Taiwan, Mainland China, etc etc. Outside some of the remote islands, mongolia, and indonesia I've been mostly to all the wrothwhile places.

Korea is just a fucking shock in how it bottoms out on promoting itself and tourism industry, I'm all for countries doing their own thing but come on. Tourism is legitimately free money for the country. I've genuinely tried to make the best of it only to be met back with middling results that make other adventures seem nearly senseless to do.

>>2847314
Ok.. how about Busan, Jeju, skiing in mountains in the northern part of the country, Gyeongju, Jeonju, Daegu? It isn't just Seoul you can visit, both Gyeongju and Jeonju have a fair amount of history and temples also if your interested in that stuff. It doesn't just have to be about drinking and partying. Yes, Japan is solidly better obviously, but I still think SK is not as terrible as OP is making it out to be. This isn't India we are describing here.

>>2847317
Ski season hasn't really started and as mentioned in the OP leaving mid next week.
I went to Busan it was fine... I road the KTX up and down already stopping at places that looked interesting from the resources online I could find.

Gyeongju and Daegu are laughable, they have some pretty sights I guess if you don't mind taking the most retarded hiking trails imaginable. Nothing like a good hike to some scenery filled in with 84 floor apartment sectors poking out of the city. Wolseong and surrounding is going through some heavy reconstruction so not sure if it's worth going all the way out there for, even if close to Daegu.

> It doesn't just have to be about drinking and partying.
I'm not saying it does, I'm saying the variety of it is all copy and paste. Hell even in Gangnam you could have told me I was in random part of Daegu or Daejeon's downtown and I probably would have believed it.

>I still think SK is not as terrible as OP is making it out to be.
I'm not trying to advocate as it being the worst place ever, it's just the amount of hiccups you get in Korea with very seldom information regarding alternative things to do is kinda demotivating to straight up frustrating. Sure if I rocked an ARC + proper KT txt number (not sure why some prepaid # don't work for places), had a full JCB card for payments or Kakao pay, and also had a Samsung phone that was native and could use NFC properly here; I'd be having a smoother time. However, I'm a tourist and the amount of hurdles I've been willing to jump through just to get some of the things I've done already is kinda pushing it. I don't expect a country to kiss my ass and hold my hand for me but holy shit Korea really takes the cake on visiting. At least in HK or Taiwan, google maps actually was relevant to me and if X was closed I could easily spring to Y as a backup. Here? lol enjoy shitty government run apps from the 90's

Maybe if I had done 2 weeks I'd leave it to whatever, nearing 3 months? hell no

>>2847265
>Wow you mean it smells like their most popular foods that everyone eats?
Trains operate from 5AM to midnight IIRC, 5 hours of cleaning and it still smells of kimchi and garlic? Might have a quality issue there Songyi

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>>2847309
>go to Hongdae
I'm convinced this place doesn't go outside in their home country. Hongdae offers virtually nothing over that of a basic college downtown outside a small threat of gun violence. Even now the nogs that flooded itaewon are flowing into Hongdae due to the decline and utter disrepair of it. Wow they have a place you can SHOOT A (airsoft)GUN!!! for a prize!!! and see K-POP STREET PERFORMERS!!! and best of all they have get this, CARFT BEER AND GAMES SHOPS. YOU CAN DRINK BEER WHILE PLAYING BOARD GAMES LIKE GAMES YOU DID AS A KID BUT AS AN ADULT AND HAVE BEER! POGGIES! After a drink or 3 (lol I drink the flavored soju because I am tough they told me) you can go to the s*x shop that's right THEY HAVE A FRIGGIN SEX SHOP ALLEY WAY WITH P*RN!! LOL! BOYS NIGHT OUT AMIRITE?

Korea just feels so fake regardless where you go, it's like they had a board of city planners and copy and pasted it all over the map at every train station or city central.

>didn't stay in hongdae and pick up women
You fucked up

The east coast looks lightly populated with a mountain backdrop, interesting to explore (but not in their freezing-ass winter weather). Four star hotel on the beach for $24 USD per night? Sounds pretty sweet. I'd have to shell out a lot more than that in fucking India. Doubt it'll be that cheap during the nicer months, however.

>>2847314
>day drinking
the locals were right shun you

>>2847374
Yes anon having a glass of local soju is unexceppabru and dishonorrrabu best to commit sudoku

>>2847378
day drinking is universally shunned. the only people who think it's okay are drunks.

>>2847374
>>2847380
>asia
>drinking is le bad
I know you're trolling but having a drink pairing of a local spirit is the norm, please go back to eating KFC/McDonalds.

>>2847403
>obsessed with america
>drunk
typical

>>2847160
is it really this bad? i wanted to go but now im kind of wondering if its really this shitty lol

>>2847318
I guess so, I mean I also never go anywhere expecting tourist infrastructure to hold my hand and don't mind jumping through some hoops when visiting some place new, but again I would be the exception and not the rule for most tourists as most people like things as simple as possible, cut and dry when visiting somewhere. Now I personally never had an issue using a credit card for payments in Korea so the whole Kakao pay thing is news to me although I am sure it was in use when I visited. Naver maps, OK I will give you that one because Naver is a pain in the ass to use and google maps are so much simpler. So if we re making the argument that SK is not an easy place as a tourist to visit, yeah i'd agree, Is it not worth to visit? I would disagree I do think it is still worth visiting SK, the culture is still interesting. Again, I had a good time visiting there so I am only basing this on personal experience of being in Korea. Anyone else who has never been to East Asia or Southeast Asia, I would say go to Japan first and foremost then check out the other countries if you want to explore more.

>>2847322
You totally missed everything else I said and just focused on hating Hongdae, but ok...

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>>2847306
Probably the best place for a female to solo travel.
>>2847422
People have different experiences. For me I loved South Korean. Locals were very friendly at me, some folks would smile back on the street, the atmosphere was freeing, easy to get around with basic English, food was incredible, and young women actually flirted back. Make sure you visit Busan for at least 3 days. Its gorgeous
>>2847527
kek

>>2847422
Stop being so easily impressionable. That's how you get suckered by scam artists.

>>2847160
no

>>2847265
Wow. He's completely wrong on every single point he's made? What an unbiased and convincing reply. I'll book a flight today!

>>2847422
Have you been anywhere else in East Asia? If so, you'll see it as a cheap Chinese knockoff of whatever place you visited before. No? You'll love it.

>>2847642
>a cheap Chinese knockoff
Hah, there are no such thing as "premium Chinese product".

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>>2847380

Don't go to Europe or LatAm chud.

>>2847160
I genuinely cannot comprehend how autistic and mentally retarded you have to be for this to be your actual impression of korea

unless it's just another weeb seethe post

>>2847518
Lot of festivals(if a fee is required, light show/drone show or carnival like thing) or concerts really only take Kakao pay.

In 2015 Busan was an incredible place to be. $2 taxis, public transportation, walking was reasonable. Way down south there was cool island camping (I taught ESL in Tongyeong). I didn’t like Seoul as much.

Not sure now. I was 22 and an edgy atheist with yellow fever.

I enjoyed PC rooms, singing rooms, weightlifting niche, $1 soju bottles. Saving $26,000 in 2 years after contract bonuses. Friendships, exploring holidays, bars and nightclubs played music I liked.

Busan Thursday Party had a niche of westerners with Koreans that were more likely to know some English but learning Gyeongsongnamdo province Korean slang is a lot of fun actually, find some language exchange friends, get multiple tutors, practice Korean every day, be okay with not being 100% understood.

I’ve been in Busan, Gimhae, Geoje, Seoul, Changwon, and lived in Tongyeong.

Reasons to go back are mostly just food for me. Real local kimchi is incredible, the spices in the southern province had a blend of robustness and spiciness.

I had more fun in Vladivostok but Korea made travel there easy(before the war).
I could visit Japan a few times with 30 minute flights and gave me a reason to try out New Zealand.

It’s got its perks, benefits, advantages, etc.

This board has always had ridiculous hatred (strong word) of Korea with a very very vocal minority.

Also, Christianity is growing over there. My ex took me to church(very hospitable) and I only went because I wanted to pound her pussy. It took me several years of exploring before I actually was cured of my atheism.

I think Korea is a victim of the "las vegas syndrome".

It either 100% hits for you or it's a one and done thing to check off the bucket list of things to do. A revisit of Korea is HARD. Oh Lotte world.... yeah cool once. DMZ great can't wait to be told 500 things again to look like a tool surrounded by boomers. Oh now way this city has a train station at the heart of it AND it's the mega mall? WOW! Wait what's that weird air pollution warning thing about?

Maybe this is my shit take but the seasons in Korea are stupidly short, not sure if I have just gotten unlucky 3 years running but fall and spring felt so quick it was hard to see a lot of it like in Virginia, Japan, Germany. Nature can be amazing with some of the rock formations but only if you catch it at the right time, summers in Korea somehow suck harder than any place I've been and I have no explanation as to why.

Really doesn't help that Koreans will shut down white people they assume are American without a second thought from entering an establishment. Been to a lot of places I 100% got the shit stain service and felt it because they had a grudge. At least Japanese while they hate you will bite their lip to milk you for some cash.

>>2847422
It's not bad but keep your expectations reasonably low to moderate and you'll have a good time. Korea really has a shitty tourism industry since it's basically all government regulated revolving around the tour bus mentality and Jeju.

>>2848096
>My ex took me to church(very hospitable) and I only went because I wanted to pound her pussy. It took me several years of exploring before I actually was cured of my atheism.
wholesome

>>2848096
congratulations on joining a cult. i hope it's the moonies

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>>2848096
>It took me several years of exploring before I actually was cured of my atheism
Based

I'm in Itaewon right now, I arrived at the beginning of the month, and I'm having a good time. I might stay longer than planned because I don't want to go back to Europe as of now.

Granted, it's my first ever trip to Asia so I don't have any point of comparison so far, but the food and alcohol is cheap and great tasting, so many things to try and I love the spiciness and weird flavors of it.
I don't have much trouble to pay for things with my Visa card, and if I do, I just withdraw cash at the nearest KB.
I don't make a lot of effort to speak and learn Korean but I can still get around with no problems, and I simply bow at cashiers and staff to be pleasant. I eventually learned a few strokes of hangul as the time passes by, and I have a hangul keyboard installed on my phone to translate stuff, it's funny to mess around with it.
Koreans don't seem to be the kind to mingle a lot with foreigners, in part because most of them don't speak good English, but I meet funny foreigners in Itaewon and Hongdae almost everyday, pretty interesting people from all walks of life.
The subway system is confusing for basically 30 minutes as you arrive, then it's a walk in the park.
I went to a few specific clubs I researched beforehand, and I can vouch for the fact that Seoul's nightlife is great.
Free WiFi is available basically everywhere I've been to.

I haven't even truly visited the touristic attractions yet. I went to Gyeongbokgung and Changdeok Palace one early morning after a night in Hongdae, but I didn't feel like dealing with tickets and security, so I just strolled around the nearby random streets, and I don't regret anything.
I just walk around districts and enjoy the atmosphere, try some different things at the convenience stores, look at what people do (drunk people in Itaewon during the weekends are the funniest), and for me this is extremely relaxing, to not abide by a checklist of things to do, but just go with the flow.

>>2847306
Yes. There is plenty of solo female travelers in my hostel and they all seem to have a good time here. Some are into the whole K-pop/K-drama thing, but some aren't at all.

That said, be careful if you go clubbing, there have been instances of girls having their drinks spiked with date rape drugs, so watch your drinks.
This advice applies everywhere around the world, but it's easier to forget in Korea because everything is so safe and nobody steals your shit (except umbrellas), so you might be tempted to think scumbags don't exist too, but they sadly do.

Otherwise, as >>2847581 said, it's probably the best place for a woman to solo travel indeed.

>>2847306
Korean women pussymog you incredibly hard. I just thought you should know that.

>>2847160
OP i’ve been living in korea for 8 years now and I agree with every single point you said. Every single thing you see here is fake, low quality trash. All those modern shiny buildings? Full of misaligned and mismeasured tiles, unleveled floors, etc. the girls themselves if pretty, are covered in layers of makeup and would probably melt in the summer. Fake as fuck shithole country. I’m leaving in a month thank god. And the people are so goddamn braindead they cant even walk in a straight line i shit you not.

>>2848631
Why did you live in such a terrible country for eight years?

I love every bad review of Korea. More space left for me to have fun. Go to Japan if you want to see Japan. Neither South Korea or North Korea are Japan currently.

>>2848644
Is North Korea fun?

>>2848631
That's (mainland) Asia, anon. There is no Germanic culture of perfectionism here. Efficiency is the goal. Construction takes so long and costs so much in America because everything has to be done with flawless attention to the smallest details.

All the same, I think Kyrgyzstan is more up my alley than Korea. I want primitive nature populated by stolid sons of the soil living a traditional way of life...not glitzy modern cities full of uptight looksmaxxed faggots who spend every leisure moment doomscrolling tiktok before huuuurrying to their wagecuck desks.

>>2848642
NTA but lots of military people stationed for 4-8 years here is common.
>>2848701
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about...

>>2848096
I used to go to South Korea (Busan) quite a bit for work from 2015-2018. Whats changed for the worst since then? Thought about going back for a visit, does it suck now?

>>2848774
Just everywhere else is better in every single way

>>2848701
>everything has to be done with flawless attention to the smallest details.
lol

>>2848783
Well no shit, but Korea always had a great nightlife and party scene (at least before COVID). It's a good place to go blow off some steam, or at least it was. Going to Korea for history and cultural shit is retarded (they have none), its not at all like Japan in that regard, the country is basically one giant, colder version of Miami- a shallow culture that is only really good for nightlife, girls, drinking, food and nightclubs. It used to be very good at this sort of thing, and it used to be pretty cheap too, not sure if it still is however, which is what I am trying to find out.

>>2848195
Could say that about every asian country. The only benefit they have is that they are bigger than Korea so it takes longer to see it all.

>>2848809
Disagree with that anon, I could easily go back to HK and Taiwan for fun anon. There enough things that if you just google tourism or events in tons of stuff pops up. Korea is like, go to this obscure knock off site of social media that you need to sign into with an ARC or citizen ID then know it's happening that month so you can buy tickets through a Korea only payment service or service that blocks non korea IP's then go pick up your tickets at CU or GS from a guy who doesn't know how to handle the foreigner version of tickets and then go to the event where everyone assumes your lost even if you're not.

Most Korean cities are see mall in center of town->go to shrine that is in constant repair unless you visit in the window of spring and fall otherwise it's tourist boomers and literal flood of elderly people reeking of piss->sit down for shit pork or chicken->go to bar where most people are incels and women are nice but something always seems 'off'->rinse and repeat

>>2848325
You were lucky to visit Korea before going to Japan—enjoy Korea to your heart's content.

>>2847160
>is there something I am missing?
i haven't been to korea specifically but from my visits in japan and studying history it's clear that korea's destiny is to become a Japanese colony ... only as part of Japanese dominion can Korea achieve greatness and find spiritual realisation ... in service to the Emperor they did build some beautiful shinto shrines in the early 20th century , and there was great potential there. alas ...

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>>2848834
there is linguistic evidence for japanese presence in Korea even in prehistory - the Peninsular Japonic languages ...
i do agree that the japanese hate in korea is so manufactured

>>2848829
I went to Japan first and then Korea.
I still prefer the people and atmosphere of Korea.
Feels like I am able to relax

>oh you want to go to that cool shrine/temple you saw a picture of yeah hope you got an ARC card because you need to book it on our shitty government run app that barely works
Never heard of this, you could always just get tickets to anything at the place, except maybe concerts
>Ha paying with visa? chump, not accepted here why you not have Kakao pay? Oh yeah you need ARC for that lol.
Again has this changed recently? I know China is stuck on alipay but during my time I could always use cash everywhere
>oh that cool thing you saw of these temples/shrines/buildings? Yeah those are closed for uhh idk... Oh no it doesn't look like that really except one short part of the season that lasts for a week or so
Lol it's the opposite though
>every subway smells like kimchi+garlic+fish even if you're on the 5am train it somehow still smells
That's just line 1, the rest have their own unique smells, like cologne or alcohol
>every historic site is basically a reconstruction of what it might have been way back when Korea was a farming nation
Hm yeah maybe
>Itaewon is a fucking joke(wasn't expecting much but damn), drinking culture is okay(?) at best
It died a long time ago, used to be one crazy place
>want to go up mountain path or hike get asked "what are you doing here?" by every passing 50 year old park hand?
I got old korean people wanting to be friends
>half the websites barely work when using an English function if you're a foreigner some shit is just completely off the table to attempt even if you want to pay cash
Yeah true, learn Korean I guess
>korean men are some of the biggest incels I've met, it's like /pol/ irl
Lol yeah but they're simps irl
>every point of interest you try to find boils down to shopping mall, shopping mall connected to train station, or shopping mall+amusement park
You forgot solo karaoke

>try to find some other tourist tips but it all boils down to "Seoul->DMZ->Gangnam!!! and maybe Jeju"
Jeju is awesome though
>women are decent but have insanely weird expectations on things or full on crazy
Accurate

Resident for 10 years left a few years ago this is my take

Travel tips: don't travel during chuseok or seolnal, get a transport card right away for seoul, try to do seasonal activities with country people it's more fulfilling and they're interested in you, whereas seoul is literally seoulless. Eat as many different foods as you can, if you've never had korean good it has a unique taste, it's hardly the same as other asian countries, best to eat at local restaurants cooked by old korean women, hurry before they're gone

The worst fucking thing about seoul is they have a city ordinance where they cant have their A/C above or below a certain set point during certain months of the year. Hotels are exempt from their ordinance but theyre cheap bastards so they disable the cold air in the winter and blast 85F fucking heat into all rooms and hallways 24/7. If you ask about it they always just tell you to turn the blower off and open the pathetically small window. Its impossible to find a hotel that doesn't follow this shitty practice.

>>2849434
>seasonal activities with country people
im badly socializing retard, can you elaborate how?

>>2848296
>>2848206
i thought he said
>It took me several years of exploring before I actually was cured of my autism

>>2854229
Westerners love to look down on Asians for supposedly lacking environmental awareness, yet in reality, you yourselves couldn't care less about wasting fossil fuels, littering cigarettes, or dumping trash.

>>2847306
No it's not safe you should go to NK instead

>>2854718
I think all the hotels in the city disabling all in-room cooling, turning on their heater and running it nonstop so its 90F in the entire building exactly the moment it turns November 1st is a bigger waste of electricity than doing nothing and letting guest control their in-room A/C. Just because its -10F outside for a month doesnt mean I want it 2 degrees below skin temp in my fucking hotel room while Im sleeping. Opening a window is not a reasonable solution, its a cheap compromise that doesnt even work most of the time. Theres no legal reason they do this, only monetary reasons. I could complain about trains also blasting way too much heat during winter but I can sortve understand why. Its excessive and I wish it was turned down a bit especially when the trains get more crowded.

>in korea during December because my dumbass miscounted the days allowed in Japan
>want to go to a xmas event that required some korean payment method
>couldn't get registered even with a korean phone # and wowpass card #, Visa and MC were not accepted
>okay I'll just go pay in cash at the place many
>no sales on site lol
>few days later notice a NYE thing, concert specifically
>neat let me sign up
>same shit can't get tickets without a citizen number or ARC # BS

>>2849432
>Lol it's the opposite though
December and Jan, most temple places are closed/partially for renovations and the tree's are all dead. At least in Japan even into early december you still had trees with some colors.

>>2848328
Korean women mog all the planet easily... with the exception of a few top tier Japanese women far beyond what the losers here can get but on average Korean women are the hottest hand down

>>2848631
I love Seoul for how easily I get left alone there, but god damn you are right about the walking thing. Every single time I went out in the ten or so months I've spent in Seoul, I had to dodge out of the way of Koreans try to walk into me.

So you're both walking down a straight path for 100 meters? Well, how about at the last second I cut in front of you because that's where the exit is, and I couldn't plan ahead?

So my choice is either knock you down because I'm bigger than you, or I get out of the way.

Every god damned day.

>>2847160
Same issue in Singapore. Asia is a corporate shithole. South korea is the worst country in the entire continent. Unironically go to Uzebkistan or Iran for feminists or some shit.

>>2855594
What is it with tards and their inability to handle traffic without getting butthurt over some petty inconvenience? It's a sidewalk, not a jogging track. Of course there will be people stopping to patronize the various businesses along the way, and if you are going past the business you will have to go around them. No, you don't have any god-given right to a clear passage, so quit acting like everyone has to make way for the White King.

>>2855648
Great point! Except I'm not talking about businesses, I'm talking about clear walking paths around parks and the river, where there are no shops.

That also doesn't change the fact of people having huge amounts of time to change their wallking path, sometimes literally minutes with clear roads, and then choosing to physically walk into me at last second.

I'm sorry basic human forethought and decency is upsetting and alien to you, I guess.

>>2855680
It's not just Korea, it's Asia in general.
The "Chinese Auntie U-turn" is what gets me.
Walking behind an older Asian lady who decides to just suddenly stop, reverse direction and plow straight ahead without looking.
I get head-butted in the chest almost daily

>>2855108
Have you tried making friends with the locals? Easiest way to get past these kind of issues. If you're not willing to integrate with their society then idk what you're doing there lol.
>even with a korean phone #
The numbers they sell tourists isn't the same as actual residents, that would defeat the entire purpose of how they lock down all of their online shit behind numbers.

>>2855692
I've never been to China, so I can't comment about there. I can tell you I have absolutely not had that experience in Japan, Thailand, Taiwan, Malaysia, or Vietnam.

>>2855736
Or India either. Anon is clearly an NPC not paying attention to his surroundings and therefore blundering into people on a regular basis like a poorly programmed bot. Can't do that in developing countries because traffic follows no rules and you have to be reacting to it at all times, but in SK he may feel safe enough to stride along on autopilot while doomscrolling until "WTF that auntie just stepped out of a shop into MY path, how dare she not yield me the right of way!" Meanwhile, everyone else slows a little to let her cross their path out of respect for her age before continuing on their way.

I agree, South Korea sucks, but I might have to go there for my grandma's funeral. Should I just fuck off as soon as the funeral is done, or should I actually try to do any sightseeing?

>>2855758
You talking about me again?:
>>2855680
Cause I've already explained why that point is wrong and dumb.

So I've been in South Korea for a month and half now. I had a good time, it's time to leave but sadly I missed my plane to China, so I've been depressed and drinking a lot in Incheon, but that's my own fault, not the fault of the country.

I really like Seoul. Indeed, for sightseeing there isn't much, but I like how every district is distinct from each other.
Itaewon is somewhat trendy and full of foreigners, has food from every part of the world, Turkish, Uzbek, Russian, African...
Hongdae is the same but more degenerate, there is always some crazy shit happening at night, and a lot of indie rock concerts.

Speaking of concerts, one thing I dislike is that they are rather expensive compared to Europe, it's always between 30k and 50k won for local bands, and I don't understand their reservation system, but at least Korean indie bands are pretty good.
Also in Seoul, people don't dance, which is actually an opportunity to get noticed as the crazy foreigner, I befriended a musician that way. In Busan, people are more relaxed and dance.

Then regarding districts, once you get tired of these two, it's time to go to the ones with actual Koreans.
I love Dongmyo, there is plenty of stuff to buy at the flea market, you can feel people are poorer, but it's not dangerous at all, it feels more real.
Not far away, there is Gwangjang Market if you want to try weird food like grilled pork uterus. Then there are all the famous attractions nearby. I only visited the Changdeok Palace, which is nice but I thought it was kinda disappointing.
The Seoul Tower is also just a mall basically, but what is nice about it is the Namsan park, to get lost there and get a respite from the city life.
If you have a gf, you need to bring her to Seongsu, it's has a lot of trendy cafés, art galleries and a little forest, it's hip but rather calm and relaxing.

>>2855800 (cont.)
I also went to Busan and Gyeongju.
Staying in the center of Busan was perhaps a mistake because the gray skyscrapers get oppressing after a while, which wasn't something I experienced in Seoul.
That said, the two highlights of my trip in terms of sightseeing were there, the Igidae hiking trail on the seaside, and the Beomeosa Temple in the mountains.
If I understand correctly, concerts and arcades in Busan are in the Gwangan and Namcheon districts, but be careful because there are very little night buses in Busan unlike in Seoul.

I didn't stay long in Gyeongju, but the Wolji Pond at night was kino, and stumbling upon the Woljeonggyo Bridge by chance was pretty cool too.

There is nothing notable in Incheon AFAIK, I'm only staying there because it's cheap and I need to get my shit together.

Anyway, I don't get most complaints in this thread. No it's not Japan, but that's a good thing, people are more social and less autistic here. If you want Japan, go to Japan.

I like taking it easy in Seoul and Korea in general. For me, it's not about visiting this historical monument or that, it's all about exploring the city and every once in while meeting some people from all walks of life, drinking makgeolli with a MMA fighter, then getting invited by girls to participate to a ritual in a cult, during the same day. Going to a restaurant and trying strange food for 10k won.

I had zero interest in Korean culture before coming here, and now, I'm rather fascinated by it, not by its past history, but on the contrary, by how it is developing.
Everything is shiny and convenient on the surface, but if you read the Korea Times, it becomes obvious there are some deep problems, some similar to the Western world, some different. You can see a divide between boomers who remember when SK was still a dictatorship, and zoomers who are kinda hedonistic and consumerist because of a lack of good jobs, the fear of a war with NK, etc. So I'm curious about the future of Korea.

>. Oh no it doesn't look like that really except one short part of the season that lasts for a week or so

I can understand this one. Tbf there's a lot of tourist attractions like that. Mother nature is a bitch to plan around. It's why I never try to visit places for things like cherry blossums or fall leaves. Life's too short to stress over the weather.

>>2847160
Korean women are famously shitty
Literally none aren't crazy, craziest bitches high on the worst feminism possible. I made friends with one and she was such a bitch that we broke up after a bad fight.

>>2848096
Korean Christianity ironically rules and is the best version of it I had my Korean GF take me to her church and loved it. It just wouldn't work out.

>>2847160
>>Ha paying with visa? chump, not accepted here why you not have Kakao pay? Oh yeah you need ARC for that lol.
No, you can just go into any CU and load cash onto a T-money card, which you can use anywhere, not just for taking local transit. It's opening a checking account that's annoying.

>>2848325
>I'm in Itaewon right now
There's a tiny coffee shop smooshed behind a parking lot to the East of the Yongsa district office that sell really good chocolate chip cookies. Business name is Voluto Pibi.

>>2857534
>Korean women are famously ALPHA STACIES
FTFY. Yeah the absolute HOTTEST top tier women on the planet. South Korea is not for losers that can't pull though. Korean hotties treat incel losers like vermin... and that's a good thing! If you have what it takes then SK is literally PARADISE.

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>>2855800
>Gwangjang Marke
Dang that reminded me of the time some cute Korean girl was staring at me for a very long time as I walked past her. Saw the whites of her eyes as I walked right next to her. Should have said hi.
>>2857534
This is one of the reasons I would move to South Korea even though I am a big Japanese weeb. The church is the only thing that could help me blend in with the culture.

>>2858233
>Saw the whites of her eyes as I walked right next to her. Should have said hi.
LMAO the complete state of these fucking sexless losers perusing this website

>>2847306
It's the homeland of femcels. Korean ""men"" as mentioned by OP are incels but they are too weak to do anything.

>>2847160
>but have insanely weird expectations on things or full on crazy
>korean men are some of the biggest incels I've met
You don't see the connection between those two?

>>2849434
it is hard to understate how bat shit insane a lot of women are there. Years and years of schooling without very much consideration for social interactions, having a life, all while being repressed by unattainable beauty standards, moderate patriarchal oppression, and mild alcoholism makes for some of the craziest neediest bullshit you can put up with. At least there are a lot of hot ones though and some genuinely worth talking to but god damn, when they lose it, they fucking lose it.

>>2857744
have you walked around the streets with blackface and a tracksuit yelling out the chorus to Itaewon Freedom yet?

>>2855801
over by the reservoir in Gyeongju you can rent ATVs and go through the rivers and bush like a bad ass for a few hours. It is pretty fun. I fucked up a couple of the four wheelers and the lazy attendants just laughed afterwards and sent me on my way without paying for snapped chains and flooded engines.

>>2847160
South Korea is so fucked. But so is a lot of countries. Traveling is overrated and nothing special. There is a reason why women like it so much, Its childish. Save your money and buy yourself something nice. You will enjoy it more.

If you're travelling in between asia seoul is often the cheapest port so idk I don't mind it at all

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>>2858830
This is true. Got a one way ticket from Seoul to Hiroshima for 39 bucks recently. I tend to fly to Seoul between china and Japan when its cheap and they always have nonstop. Sometimes I stay stay an extra day in Seoul too because I miss the food.

If you want an almost free and cool experience go to odaiba during the sunset, buy a beer and enjoy the sunset.

>>2858968
>odaiba
This is in Tokyo. We are talking about S. Korea here....

>>2858425
This. I hate traveling

>>2859460
Then what are you doing on the travelling board 이디어츠