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I don't see a lot of threads about south America, Africa on /trv/.
Brazil dominates the continent, is it geographically isolated or can you go through Brazil in transit back and forth? Does anyone transit Guyana through the Brazil land border? How far can you actually get up the Amazon and is that a viable route?
When it's the tourist season, which places to normie Americans ruin?
How's the place doing currency wise, is Venezuela back on the itinerary?
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How is Chile even a country? Do you fly to Argentina then drive up through the whole of chile? Fly in, fly out?
Is patagonia a meme or is it worth visiting, given how many national parks chile has that are far more accessible
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>>2847332
Most of this board only ever wants to talk about SEA, because it's cheap, safe, and they can get easy girls.
Meanwhile, LATAM is sometimes cheap, but not entirely safe, and the girls are all giga Stacys who only go for Chad.
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>>2847332
My guess is that most people visiting South America are too busy being extroverted and having a life with people they meet to spend any time hunched over their laptop spergposting on /trv/ about their travels.
>>2847334
Geography makes Chile a country. The Andes separate it from Argentina. It's generally considered the best country in all of LatAm, but it's not particularly cheap, and yes it is Spanish speaking. A lot of South Americans take umbrage at anglos and their insistence on speaking English BTW.
>>2847363
It's easy to get laid in South America too - there's whores in every town basically - but they are very curvy large women as a general rule. Dweebs want skinny, demure animu girls with squinty eyes, not fat sassy sheboons with fake eyelashes and painted-on eyebrows.
>>2847355
You just gotta find out where the Eurofags go. They always gravitate to certain places to gentrify everything with their faggy little cafes and boutique restaurants.
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>>2847363
Social media destroyed Latinas although north of Lima you still get play as a white guy. Just lie through your teeth about gaining or having residency otherwise they get all bitchy about "sexpests" while they chase the local drug dealer and attend feminista rallies. They're literally 70 IQ here and think that your presence causes all of their inflation, you'll here that with every one of they bitchy ones, or the chopped bang trash, that you take out before she looks back at her phone to doom scroll some more.
It's been amazing to watch the mindset shift over the last 5 years, and the covid money didnt help or even made it worse since they're 80 IQs being blaated by social media made them think the Foreign workers were a new norm. People as a whole are in the angry podt-denial phase of that money drying up and the where's are no exception. They'd rather just steal.
Mexican women are still good to go, but South American women? Lol fuck no. And southern cone women are turbo leftist trash. Literally worse than French women when you factor in the poverty they cop an attitude about.
Low key Brazilian tourism marketing threat BTW. Loved the touch about Guyana.
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>>2847668
I agree that Latinas are the trashiest and least loyal race of women. Particularly the light-skinned ones. They are all fat as well, because they eat too much. Only the 16 year olds or Native-dominant mestizos are slender and demure in their manners.
Best to avoid political talk altogether, unless you meet a high IQ academic willing to converse about world issues. They will get butthurt if you say you're from America instead of from the United States. They get butthurt when you expect them to speak English in a Spanish country. They get butthurt if you criticize the trash, druggies, traffic, insecurity of their cities. If you go to Colombia you have to pretend arepas and buñuelos are amazing, when even stray dogs won't eat them. Beggars will verbally abuse you if you refuse to give them money, and you just have to walk away.
If some guys are getting insolent, aggressive or pushy with you, it has nothing to do with politics. They want to rob you and are psyching themselves up for the demand, simple as.
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>>2848050
Trannies are not that common in Colombia. Colombia's culture is both libertine (prostitution and weed are decriminalized) and conservative. Uber drivers in Medellín are some of the consistently right-wing people I've ever met.
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>>2848576
>Trannies are not that common in Colombia.
Damn well in all the porn I see they usually are the hottest of literally everyone cis trans femboy doesnt matter they beat everyone and at the same time usually have the biggest dicks which is hot af... but I feel like most of those are Columbian only in origin...
What are my chances with cis Columbian women then ? Theyre like second best...
Are they greedy ? Are they gonna date me coz Im white even if Im poor ?
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>>2847624
>there's whores in every town basically - but they are very curvy large women as a general rule
Architectbros...
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>>2848789
Some people will still befriend you if you are poorfag staying in a hostel. One American who just arrived in Bogota with a couple buddies met some locals and before you know it, he was fixing to go exploring around the country on the back of a girl's motorbike, kek. She evidently fancied him (and his willingness to pay for everything too, I bet).
If you dress like a slob in Colombia and don't shower at least twice a day, most people will quite literally turn their nose up at you to avoid catching a whiff of your B.O. The stinky gringo is a meme there.
>>2848742
Paraguay seems like an extremely boring country, with most of its area being flat empty scrub jungle, but it's also cheap and reasonably safe. Best time to visit is Southern Hemisphere winter, not summer when it is hot as balls.
Overall I'm glad I chose India instead of South America for this travel season, despite South America being mostly visa-free, more developed and less overcrowded. SA is the most geographically isolated continent; even flights to North America can be surprisingly expensive, and flights to other continents, forget about it. Getting around the continent by bus is also surprisingly pricey, much more expensive than overland travel in Asia. If you do decide to go to SA, it's expensive to change your mind halfway through your eight-month trip and go somewhere else. Whereas India has cheap flight connections all over the Old World when you're ready to move on, and I only paid $400 for my flight from a small US East Coast airport.
Also, tourist lodging in SA has soared in price recently. You could probably stay in Eastern Europe for cheaper than you can stay in Argentina these days.
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>>2848575
I hope you don't mean cool as in temperature, because you're going to a notoriously hot country in the peak of summer. For cool as in fun and interesting, Floripa is the default choice. This place blows up in summer and gets very crowded and expensive, though, so be mindful of that. However, the other capitals in the area have nothing to offer and are hard to have fun in if you don't speak Portuguese. Basically you'll have a good time in Floripa if you don't mind a little traffic and expensive short term rental prices
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>>2848854
>Some people will still befriend you if you are poorfag staying in a hostel. One American who just arrived in Bogota with a couple buddies met some locals and before you know it, he was fixing to go exploring around the country on the back of a girl's motorbike
Sounds pretty cool and fun desu
>(and his willingness to pay for everything too, I bet).
Nah fuck off with this shit I aint paying for shit Im poor and behave like a jew lmao
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>>2847626
In Chile if you go all the way to the south like punta arenas it may be too cold for the general taste.
I believe Los lagos and Los Rios hit the sweetspot. It's my understanding that the patagonia from Argentina's side is colder and drier.
Are you looking for natural beauty or local architecture and towns?
>>2848050
kek
Twinks are on high demand between the chilean girls I know.
trannies too, the sexual revolution hit strong around here
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>>2849173
>Twinks are on high demand between the chilean girls I know.
Im not cute enough to call myself a twink tho... just twinkish...
Do I have to know spanish to be able to talk to latinas and general population tho ?
Like how useful is english in south america ? (Especially Colombia)
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>>2852132
Damn it...
>it's not that hard
But learning another language is scary... english was hard enough...
Ig Ill have to do it for latinas...
Am I gonna be prayed on coz Imma gringo ?
How likely is that Ill be killed coz I accidentally slept with someones girl or some shit ?
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>>2847332
Yeah, you just gotta go through the border roads. You'll only have problems if you're carrying non-personal stuff back into Brazil and to Guyana (you might get taxed).
I personally don't recommend the Amazon touring, it's not an easy place naturally. The heat, high humidity and lots of bugs will test your body quickly. Dehydration and cramping is common.
If you wanna chill just look at some "Cerrado" instead of big cities, you'll save tons, explore lots. They're good year around except some heavy raid seasons when water rises a lot and can be dangerous.
>>2848991
Yeah, that's a pretty famous tourist area. It won't be peak summer as >>2848991 says, that's more November in Spring, before the rain comes in. Spring is the worst time to come since it's very hot, dry and not winds.
Look at some of the "Cerrados" it's like our national parks, very nice for nature stuff, lots of waterfalls, but be prepared to walk a lot. Tends to have nice reasonably priced places to stay at with breakfast, lunch and dinner included.
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>>2854553
Depends really, if the place has netted windows then it's most likely fine. Else, just check under things for the brown spider. Everything else is just a random bug.
And by bugs I mostly mean mosquitos with dengue. A pest here, especially now in the hotter season.
HIGHLY recommend locally buying skin sprays that use aloa vera (babosa is the name here), they work magically.
Learn how to rehydrate during the day, else you'll cramp a lot. But seriously, just avoid the Amazon if you're not into hiking in the heat. Cerrados are much better.
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Will I regret choosing Buenos Aires/maybe Sao Paulo over Asian cities?
I was originally aiming to do Asia as their cities looked really cool, but as I researched it more I figured I'd be really lonely out there because apart from Japan there isn't much happening for my interests, even in Japan the crowds skew older for some reason so it's harder to meet people my age
Like the main/potentially only reason I'm interested in Buenos Aires is because it's a big city with lots of young people who share the same interests as me
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Going to visit São Paulo for two weeks in March with my gf, any recs? Pro tips? Staying in Vila Mariana and know not to take out my phone in public or be walking around at night. My Portuguese is decent but my gf can't speak it (only Spanish)
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>>2855356
If she speaks Spanish slowly, it'll click for most words. Even English/Spanish/Japanese works in most areas.
You could visit Liberdade, it's the Japanese district there. Very close to where you're staying. Really nice and cheap for you two.
Please avoid any "morro"/favela tours, don't be a dumb tourist.
There's a few cathedrals if you're into architecture, google Maps should give nice recommendations for it. (Use Waze if you're going to drive around, it's more updated on that part)
There's the beach area and Santos which is pretty nice to visit.
"Aquário de São Paulo" is pretty cool.
Food, just go to local stuff, there's one in practically every corner. Try the abacate smoother or "vitamina de abacate." Abacate is another type of avocado, but sweet and much larger. "Jantinha" is a small dinner on-the-go. "Farofa" is grounded up cassava that looks like sand, it can be raw or seasoned. "Pequi" is a very selected taste, but SCRAPE it with your teeth, since it's a giant seed and can break your teeth if you bite in.
If you wanna look like a local, just wear Havaiannas, Riders or some local flip flop, shorts. No fancy watch/jewelry. Get a fanny pack for carrying stuff is nice.
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>>2853311
lol do your thing dude.
I'm the opposite and like women thiccc, so I'll be in Rio in March.
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I just got back from my trip of Paraguay and the triple frontier. I've been to Paraguay multiple times and only haven't seen the Chaco but have seen everything else. It was a nice trip and not particularly hot (30 Celsius/100 Fahrenheit).
Basically 16 days if you count travel to see the main tourist stuff in the triple frontier region (maybe 25 days if you wish to see the chaco):
> Asuncion - 5 days tops
- see Aregua, Yaguaron (including the museums, old church, and house of the supreme dictator) and Caacupe (1-2 days)
- see downtown Asuncion including the Pantheon, Museum of the Disappeared and Museum of Guarani culture and Presidential Palace
- 1 night of barbecue (asaditos) and Conmebol Museum
>Ciudad del Este - 2 days tops
- Saltos de Monday and Itaipu Binacional including museums and night show (1-2 days)
>Foz do Iguazu - 3 days tops
- you do not need a visa to enter Brazil if you intend to leave through Paraguay
- See Iguazu falls from the Brazilian and Argentinian side (1 day)
- See Itaipu from the Brazilian side, Parque das Aves, and Marco das Tres Fronteiras (1 day)
- See anything else (Mosque, Buddhist Temple, Aquarium, Wanda Mines) (1 day)
>Encarnacion - 3 days tops
- See Trinidad, San Cosme, and Tavarangue (1 day)
- See San Ignacio in Argentina and anything else in Posadas (1 day)
- Carnaval if you can (I didn't get to see it and left the day of) (1 day)
The most important thing I can tell you about Paraguay is bring cash and a lot of it. You will be price gouged otherwise
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>Paraty
Yeah, that's actually a pretty nice place. Worth it if you like old-ish towns, but with a nice chill place to eat and drink.
Honestly, main advice is, avoid São Paulo (Except if you wanna go to Liberdade for Japanese area), Rio de Janeiro as a whole (massive tourist trap, not worth it) and tourist area of Bahia.
There's a lot of European based areas and towns (some speaking said languages, some have Portuguese as second language), and much cheaper everywhere else.
Kinda cheesy-ish, but this page has some nice places. https://www.instagram.com/p/DIB2KK7xZCT/
If you are into caves, choose anywhere in the central region, tons of amazing caves to explore. Goiás, Minas Gerais, etc has some really nice ones and extremely cheap. Along with any "Chapada"
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>>2857341
>avoid Rio
No tourist is going to do this on their first trip to Brazil and they really shouldn't anyways, I loved it the first time I went and I still think it's great for about a week before the griminess starts to wear me out. I do agree there's a lot of other cool things to see in Brazil that are totally undiscovered by foreigners
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My ChileANO brothers, HERMANOS, even... I'm an "hijo de extranjeros transeuntes", missed my chance to opt in for citizenship at 18 years old, I'm almost 30 now. Can I still ask for my citizenship, somehow?
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>>2857425
>What is the big deal about Uruguay?
Complete fucking marketing meme like Costa Rica. It is Argentina with a stable shitty economy instead of an unpredictable shitty economy. It is only "Le Switzerland of South America" in the prices and how boring it is.
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>>2857502
>So where is the best place to live in Latin America?
Go and see for yourself. It really depends on what you want from the place and if you need a local job or not. I like to hang out in Brazil and Argentina when it's cold in the northern hemisphere
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Suggestions for places to visit in Brasil? I've been to Fortaleza, Belo Horizonte, Florianópolis and Recife thus far. I have no interest in Rio - seems like a dangerous tourist trap. Just looking for a place with beautiful sights and something of noteriety (like buildings or landmarks of cultural signficance), I guess.
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>>2847644
yeah had some bitch in ecuador expect all this gentleman shit and wouldnt fuck two dates in outside of coming to my place to make out, but on the other hand also wanted all this stupid feminist equality shit like me cooking a meal for her if she would do the same for me.
What's even the point if these bitches give you the same nonsense that retarded american or eurotrash women do
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kys
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>>2857502
Varies on if you want to live close or far from the ocean, seasons, language, altitude, etc.
But in all, living at some rural area tends to be extremely chill and calm.
>>2857509
Read some of my comments on >>2857341 comments and beforehand.
Since Brazil has many communities you can choose what Asian or European style towns.
Landmarks I'd say mostly "Chapadas" or that IG that has some good places.
More local non-tourist is pretty much everything away from the coastal states.
Minas Gerais has a really nice and huge bbq festival a few times a year. Nice natural parks.
Goias has a lot of old historical places, waterfalls. Good food.
Both Mato Grosso, Tocantins and Para have some good fishing spots and lots of forest areas with waterfalls.
That's off of memory. Lots of old churches and some very old religious festivals are still practiced like Procissão do Fogaréu (1745) which is very funny to show to Americans.
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Best things to do in Venezuela?
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Liberdade in Sao Paulo (Japanese) is the main one. And I meant Asia as a whole.
Treze Tílias - Santa Catarina (Austrian)
Praça Onze - Rio de Janeiro (Chinese/Jap)
I guess these are the most prominent ones that are themed. Then it's mostly spread around in shops and whatnot.
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>>2857573
Are the hotels and restaurants good there, or is it more a rental home & market groceries kind of place? The dullness of the terrain is its biggest turnoff for me. I'm not happy without my hill climbs and scenic vistas. Trudging a rural road through empty farm plots just doesn't cut the mustard any more. And there are so few population centers in Paraguay, meaning a dearth of possible places to explore. Peru definitely seems the SA country most worth exploring for lovers of rugged nature mingled with Third World shithole villages. Colombia & Venezuela are too volatile. Chile & Argentina too expensive. Brazil & Paraguay too flat.
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>>2859045
>Are the hotels and restaurants good there, or is it more a rental home & market groceries kind of place?
In my experience yes, the hotels are very good in my experience. I recently stayed at 2 in Asuncion which were very luxurious despite being $40 a night and sadly I was cheap in CDE and spent $25 a night and got what I paid for and $35 a night for a hotel in downtown Encarnacion for a middling experience (everything worked and was clean just not recently renovated or high end). Restaurants are sadly not my forte, I personally love buffet por kilo and asados/asaditos its not high end eating but its always delicious and worth the money if you like meat and starches. Also yes, Paraguay is not a place for adventure like most people think. There are trails and mountains (Yaguaron, Alto Parana, Itapua), beaches, forests etc but there are caveats. First, almost everything is privatized so if the name of the place doesn't have Senatur tied to it then its a toss up on the quality of the experience. Second, paraguayans do not advertise their country for whatever reason so you need to actually talk to people to know where to go and what to see.
>is it more a rental home & market groceries kind of place
In a way, yes. It is far as fuck away from everything. It is not a place to set up a base and use as a launch pad to go other places since it is isolated by latin american standards. Paraguay is a place you go to disappear from the world. For example, every day on the morning and nightly news you will not hear a single thing about the world, just Paraguay. No Argentina, no Brazil, and no USA unless its something extraordinary
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>>2857341
Yeah I chose São Paulo mainly because of the ease of traveling there and that I like a city vibe + want to get good vegan food. But I also understand it's not the best city for tourists in terms of things to do + safety, so I'm going to try and balance it out with a Paraty excursion. Maybe we'll also check out somewhere with caves
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>>2859719
Vegan food is rarer (and costs way more), just go with the vegetarian options and say you have an allergy to dairy and red meat (due to heart problem) to avoid salads with egg/meat. That'll give you way more range on food and places to eat.
Best places for tourism is where the locals do tourism stuff.
Dress like a local and you'll be fine. No chains or fancy watches.